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Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 19:54 GMT
#1245
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 19:55 GMT
#1248
Ok scum wins.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 19:57 GMT
#1250
READ THE THREAD NOT FILTERS.

I've even explained how that's not a contradiction. Even if you're too lazy to read the thread. I really give up.

Forumite has admitted in the past to not reading my case on WBG, and at the same time not being convinced of my caseo n WBG' NO NONO!N@$$
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:00 GMT
#1255
That was @Forumite.
On September 22 2011 04:53 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch?

.
.
.

I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.

ERM?

I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3?

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:06 GMT
#1258
On September 22 2011 05:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
That was @Forumite.
On September 22 2011 04:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch?

.
.
.

I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.

ERM?

I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3?

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.


actually the rest of the post had a lot of relevance.

He was suggesting you've had "scumreads" on like everyone in this game so far. AKA you can't possibly be right because there's not 12 scum in this game.



Those are HIS "scumreads" not mine.

And you're missing what he's doing. He's stating 1 suspicious thing everyone has done. And then the very next thing he says that he can point out why he thinks everyone is town too. He has no scumreads.
None.
ZILCH. He's perma trying to move to lurkers or bad townies. Not scum. He's not hunting scum.

Please.

What i'm currently trying to do is separate the BAD TOWNIES from PRO SCUMMERS.

And the top 3 in that list are Forumite / Jackal / Curu.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:07 GMT
#1259
On September 22 2011 05:05 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
That was @Forumite.
On September 22 2011 04:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:15 Lucidity wrote:
If there is even the hint of a no lynch tonight please just lynch me. I'm over this town.

And I realise my frustration has caused me to also play badly. Just derp.

@Everyone: State your opinions on

FORUMITE

JACKAL

CURU

You keep saying that. Why? Because I didn't think Bugs was a good lynch?

.
.
.

I keep thinking Bugs is scum because he pooched his claim on when he received his item.

ERM?

I deleted the rest of the post because it's nonsense. You're telling me you don't have any scum reads? By Day 3?

I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.

I don't think you're town. If you were you would see how next to fucking impossible it is in this derp fest.

So you have no clue who is scum, but you'd rather save random people (who according to your previous post have been just as scummy as the next guy) and cause no lynches? Yeah man, makes sense.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:09 GMT
#1262
It's amazing that Jackal can admit that the entire town is being derp.

And then his reason for finding Nisani scummy is that he's "inept" aka derp.




....

Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:11 GMT
#1263
On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.

They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:16 GMT
#1265
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:17 GMT
#1267
On September 22 2011 05:15 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:11 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.

They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???


I think I wrote earlier that its too late to lynch based on the assumption that one out of 3 must be scum. not a good trade for us at this point. So just do the correct thing and vote for the person you are most convinced is scum, that one out of those has to be scum is a bonus, nothing more.

No one suggested that we lynch through that circle.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:18 GMT
#1269
On September 22 2011 05:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:11 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Nisani201 wrote:
Forumite and Curu CANNOT BOTH BE SCUM. God, you guys are stupid.

They are still both scummy. If one flips scum the other suddenly looks much more town, but until then???


Until then you can't keep pushing three targets at once

There is most likely three scum in this game. Or at least two.




...
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:19 GMT
#1270
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!

What do you mean? Explain to me why you thought Nisani's claim made Forumite more scummy please.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:26 GMT
#1279
Curu has defended Nisani and voted Forumite as well.

Is he part of our scum team too? Oh boy, we are 4. We are in LyLo! <3
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:28 GMT
#1285
On September 22 2011 05:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:25 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!


wtf are you scumbuddies with Lucidity and Nisani too?

None of you make any arguments for your proposed lynches whatsoever, you just keep distracting town attention away from Nisani.

This just makes me even more confident in lynching him today.


How is that tunnel you seem to be living in these days?


yeah cause making a coherent case on someone I think is scum these days is tunneling, right?

God you guys are thick

It is when you ignore any responses to it.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#1291
On September 22 2011 05:24 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:19 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up

##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58

I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?

OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.


On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person.


then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3

On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.


When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind:

On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead.


So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?

WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!

What do you mean? Explain to me why you thought Nisani's claim made Forumite more scummy please.


I never did. I pushed forumite from the start, stoped morons/scum from lynching nisani overly quickly and then decided after that that its time to kill forimite. Either you read the thread really carelessly or you are intentionnaly shitting up everything.

I'm referring to this post:

On September 21 2011 23:37 Erandorr wrote:
Btw this whole thing here convinced me even further that forumite is scum.
Time to kill some scum

##vote forumite

What convinced you?



On September 21 2011 23:04 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 22:55 Erandorr wrote:
On September 21 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote:
It didn't

On September 21 2011 22:22 Nisani201 wrote:
No you guys are wrong.

I have the Element of Honesty, but I have to give it to someone in order for it to work. But I don't know if it's a specific person or just anyone.


That's a lie.
##UNVOTE:
##VOTE: Nisani201.


I dont exactly get what is going on here, why is that a lie and what is the element of honesty?

Read the thread...

The element of Honesty is an item which can freely be given away between ponies. I and WBG got the two halves of it during Night 1, and we both gave our pieces to tnkted, who combined them into the Element of Honesty.

Nisani201 just claimed he has it, Jackal called him out on it, most likely because he holds the element of honesty himself. There´s only one element of Honesty, so Nisani201 (or Jackal58) is lying. Only Scum need to lie, so we lynch Nisani201.

Night 1 Forumite?
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:38 GMT
#1293
Ok awesome sauce. Forumite is an actual possibility now.

##unvote
##Vote Forumite


Curu, would you consider giving your element to tnkted?
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:42 GMT
#1297
On September 22 2011 05:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:28 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:25 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:
[quote]
WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.

tnkted, any update on elements?

Forumite is confirmed scum at this point.

If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious?

Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?

If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!


wtf are you scumbuddies with Lucidity and Nisani too?

None of you make any arguments for your proposed lynches whatsoever, you just keep distracting town attention away from Nisani.

This just makes me even more confident in lynching him today.


How is that tunnel you seem to be living in these days?


yeah cause making a coherent case on someone I think is scum these days is tunneling, right?

God you guys are thick

It is when you ignore any responses to it.


horse shit, you're the one who ignored his voting contradictions (blaming outliers for the no lynch in one post, then blaming only me, then going back and clarifying what he meant to Jackal about outliers and then blaming me again).

You're the one who ignored the contradiction with respect to him saying he'd get an analysis on me and then not putting one up for 24 hours (and as of now 1 hr 45 minutes since I called him out on it)

You're the one who has been ignoring the fact that Nisani has contributed nothing but chaos to this town since day 1.

You're the one who is ignoring the fact that his element slip has a pro-mafia side as well as a (however far-fetched it may be) town side. I even said that by itself the slip could be something a townie would do, but that's extremely unlikely to me in light of all the other things he's done.

Most importantly, you're the one who is ignoring the fact that what matters here is the big picture with respect to Nisani, not little individual things by themselves.

I'm the one saying that's bad town, not pro scum. I'm not ignoring anything.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:45 GMT
#1301
WBG, should I mention how you're the one ignoring how Nisani considered lynching through the CMCs to find the scum among them. Or how he helped Forumite out of a tough spot by confirming his claim, when scum could have let us stone him (The only way Nisani is scum there is if both are scum)?
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 20:47 GMT
#1304
On September 22 2011 05:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:42 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:39 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:28 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:25 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:17 Erandorr wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:16 Lucidity wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:08 Forumite wrote:
[quote]
If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.

That makes no sense as scum.

Jackal AND tnkted claim that they have the element. So trying to go after Jackal alone is silly. Furthermore, they actually used the stone and got my name, WITH the "confused" part, which I didn't claim in thread. Coming late to the party and claiming to have Honesty and that that makes Jackal scum is RETARDED.

Not only that, but the setup is all wrong. He didn't claim his element and call Jackal scum. He claimed his element and then it had to be pointed out by OTHERS that Honesty was already out there.

And don't come with this "herp derp he never read the thread so that's why he tried the gambit". If Nisani is scum he's in a scum TEAM. They would have worked on the plan together. There's no way he would've fucked up like that. There's no way that plan would've even left the QT.

Sorry, but you are attacking a derping townie, not someone playing pro scum. This is seriously eating at me now.


wow thanks lucidity, that is what I wrote earlier too ! Lets kill forumite, yes? yes!


wtf are you scumbuddies with Lucidity and Nisani too?

None of you make any arguments for your proposed lynches whatsoever, you just keep distracting town attention away from Nisani.

This just makes me even more confident in lynching him today.


How is that tunnel you seem to be living in these days?


yeah cause making a coherent case on someone I think is scum these days is tunneling, right?

God you guys are thick

It is when you ignore any responses to it.


horse shit, you're the one who ignored his voting contradictions (blaming outliers for the no lynch in one post, then blaming only me, then going back and clarifying what he meant to Jackal about outliers and then blaming me again).

You're the one who ignored the contradiction with respect to him saying he'd get an analysis on me and then not putting one up for 24 hours (and as of now 1 hr 45 minutes since I called him out on it)

You're the one who has been ignoring the fact that Nisani has contributed nothing but chaos to this town since day 1.

You're the one who is ignoring the fact that his element slip has a pro-mafia side as well as a (however far-fetched it may be) town side. I even said that by itself the slip could be something a townie would do, but that's extremely unlikely to me in light of all the other things he's done.

Most importantly, you're the one who is ignoring the fact that what matters here is the big picture with respect to Nisani, not little individual things by themselves.

I'm the one saying that's bad town, not pro scum. I'm not ignoring anything.


So your excuse for dismissing my arguments is that they're all anti-town arguments?

God that's one of the worst twisting of semantics I've ever seen. How else are you supposed to find scum?

This entire town is bad town. So clearly we can't go that route.

@Curu: So let's do it.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
September 21 2011 21:23 GMT
#1334
Ok mine has been sent.

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