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Forumite (1) 17-Chaos13 Greymist (0) DroneAllDay (0) OriginalName/Curu (2) 15-sinani206 24-Nisani201 tnkted (1) 21-Sevryn Sinani206 (7) 9-Greymist 10-Curu 16-Forumite 22-Dreamflower 25-Lucidity 26-Jackal58 27-wherebugsgo Dreamflower (1) 18-tnkted Chaos13 (0) wherebugsgo (0) Nisani201 (1) 28-DroneAllDay | ||
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tnkted, I´m leaning towards keeping Lucidity alive. He does feel like town, the case against WBG is a decent one, logical, if we ignore that WBG did give up the piece. | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:06 GreYMisT wrote: LaL usally refers to Lynch all liars. Got it. Anyway, the lurkers Cyber and Sevryn need to pick up tonight. | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:33 Lucidity wrote: If Forumite ends up on my lynch he is easily scum. Please look at my posts regarding him in the early game and chaos' case against him. Since Night 1 Forumite has only posted Fluff and talked about the elements. His only attempt at scum hunting was an extremely weak case against me. He has now stated that he doesn't believe I'm scum anymore so that's self explanatory... But scumhunting is hard! I´ve succeeded with scumhunting once, in Cosmic Horror when I got Wiggles, after showing how scum forced a no-lynch. Apart from that, I´m not a good, nor confident scumhunter. Those I´ve checked this game have come up as blanks, not enough to post, or I post a case and it gets picked apart quickly, regarding Lucidity. I plan to be up a while more, so things might change, but for now: ##Unvote ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:46 wherebugsgo wrote: and wtf I'm now unsure about tnkted and Jackal too. If this is a scum gambit it's a fucking good one, cause tnkted is voting me when I fucking gave him a piece. Are you stupid or are you scum? Lucidity explained all the points against you. Claiming you got your item N1 to conform with tnkted+Jackal, changing your mind once Nisani confirmed my claim on a D1 item, heavily pushing for Jackal to confess when you should have figured it out allready. If we ignore the fact that you gave up your piece, then you look more scummy than Lucidity. | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:51 GreYMisT wrote: Wait a minute, why would you ask him to do it then if it wouldn't absolve him? He was reluctant to accept me as a possible holder, not wanting to give up his piece before leaving for a long while, only doing it after I gave up mine and thereby forced him to do the same. It might as well have been a scum gambit, with all the trouble we went through to get that piece. | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:54 wherebugsgo wrote: These are all false. My claim of n1 was a mistake. I actually came out and said that myself (why would I do that as scum? I could've just kept quiet about it, it wouldn't have made a difference.) You guys are trying to use the N1 claim to label me as mafia when that's blatantly false. I never suspected you, Forumite. If I'd suspected you I would've voted you. It is probably a mistake, but at the time it made me look bad, and it took until Nisani vouched for me before you rechecked, before then I was risking a lynch. It doesn´t matter if it was a mistake or not, what happened fit what a scum would do in order to get me lynched, or maybe trick me into sending you my piece before then. We can´t verify the truth behind it, and it looks bad. | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:57 wherebugsgo wrote: So now my RL reason for leaving during the day is a reason for me being scum? What kind of shit is this? Read your own argument dude, it's not making any sense. I left because I needed to go eat and attend a Michael Moore event here in Berkeley last night (go google it if you don't believe me) After 4 hours I was back and the first thing I did was PM GMarshal to send the piece to tnkted. I didn't even know you gave up yours BECAUSE I WAS GONE. I tried to resolve the issue before you had to go, I even suggested sending to Jackal. Waiting would just delay needlessly, and cut 4 hours out of that day, because we focused on the elements and the holders instead of scumhunting. It´s not that you went away that looks bad, but that you stalled until you had to go. | ||
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On September 19 2011 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote: So I'm scum because I made you look bad? Lol. If you were scum, then it would have been a good way to get an element for Scum, lynch a Townie, at worst at the cost of your life the day after. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:01 GreYMisT wrote: When does the day end? I think in 2 hours. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:10 Jackal58 wrote: Nope. Have not changed a thing. If my lynch helps to secure a town victory I'm all for it. Of Forumite, WBG, and Lucidity at least 1 is definitely scum if not 2 of them. I personally see it as most likely 1 atm. If WBG flips town I don't know yet which of the other two is going to flip scum but one of them will. What does Lucidity have to do with the ones confirming elements? Killing off Town to confirm is a bad idea IMO. Ignoring any doctor-abilities of the elements, if we kill a Town to confirm another, then that one will just get shot down tonight, and we´re 2 Town down, just like yesterday. As there are several Town who have handled the elements, there are plenty of targets for Scum to kill, and we can´t save them all. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:15 wherebugsgo wrote: If I were scum I would've happily kept quiet about having a piece and I would've definitely never sent it to tnkted. That would just be suicide. A piece does you no good, but if you could get me to send you the other piece, and at the same time get me killed, then it´s 3 town down and an element in Scum hands, in return for your life. Before I sent to tnkted, you were never forced to do the same, and with some persuasion, perhaps I would have sent mine to you without any fuzz. After that, you could have said you hadn´t gotten a piece, and I would have been lynched as a liar. If it wasn´t for Nisani, my breadcrumbs, and tnkted, that could have been a possibility. I don´t have any proof that this would have happened, but it could have happened, if it was anyone else who didn´t breadcrumb or had a Cutie Mark Crusader buddy. And no, I don´t think WBG is scum, just exploring the possibilities here. He could be scum, that´s what I wanted to check. Lucidity, arguing with him makes him look Town to me, despite pushing for WBG. He´s explained what he was up to, and his reasons are not scummy. If he´s scum, then it´s because he´s pushing on someone we want to have confirmed, not because of the way he´s pushing. | ||
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On September 18 2011 03:28 Jackal58 wrote: My tail was twitching. This apparently means an object is about to fall on us. It did. Half to me. Half to Twinkles. Each half is useless by itself. We were allowed to PM each other. I suggested to tnkted we both keep our separate halves until we can identify a person as being confirmed town. Then pass them to him/her. He agreed. Later he feared he was about to die. So rather than have the item rng'ed he gave it to me. So now I have it in it's entirety. It is a single item now. If tnkted were scum he would have passed it to a scum buddy. No way would he have gave it to me. If I were scum tnkted would be dead right now so he couldn't talk about it. But that's not proof I'm not scum. That's WIFOM. My flip is proof I'm not scum. And tnkted is confirmed townie. No way in hell would scum give it up. And no I'm not telling what it does nor who currently has it. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:39 GreYMisT wrote: You are right, tntked gave his piece to Jackal who then gave the completed piece to tntked. This completely eliminates the 3rd possibility in my eyes, however the 1st and 2nd are still viable options. While they might be both red, if they are that ballsy, but if we haven´t hit jackpot, killing one Town to confirm another feels counterproductive. We would probably end up with 2 dead Town today, that´s why I don´t like killing to confirm. It´s just lynching for information. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:46 Jackal58 wrote: If we were both scum you would know nothing about the item at all. I would have it and we'd be lynching tnkted today. Ya I'm a boss like that. Or tnkted would allready be dead by last nights nightkill. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:50 Forumite wrote: Or tnkted would allready be dead by last nights nightkill. Misread your post, thought you meant if Jackal was scum and tnkted Town, then tnkted would have died yesterday. Nevermind. | ||
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On September 19 2011 09:50 wherebugsgo wrote: You have no proof because I never had any sort of intention to do anything like that. Ever. This is horrible, convoluted logic. The simplest explanation wins, and clearly this is not the simplest explanation, because if that's what I wanted to do I would've actually made signs that I wanted your piece. I never asked for it. If I was scum I probably would've hinted that I would be a better recipient than tnkted, but I didn't do that, did I? I´m not proving your guilt, just the possibility of guilt, and while it´s convoluted logic, it paints a logical train of thought both from a scum and town perspective. You didn´t have to tell me to give you my piece, it was always on the table, and always one of the ways to clear up the situation. I repeatedly asked you to make up your mind about giving your piece to me. You could have said that you didn´t trust me, that I should give you my piece. I was waiting for an answer, on if I would get the piece or if I should give mine away, because I felt a lynch coming on. Before Nisani vouched for me, there was enough pressure that I might have given you the piece just to keep it among living ponies. It could have worked, and that you didn´t say you wanted the piece doesn´t mean anything, because it was always the most likely outcome, thanks to your mistake with the PM. | ||
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