EPTOkay, I have 2 pieces of the element of kindness, but "still not enough though".
Is scum holding onto another piece?
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tnkted
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Okay, I have 2 pieces of the element of kindness, but "still not enough though". Is scum holding onto another piece? | ||
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Lucidity
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Forumite
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On September 22 2011 06:15 Forumite wrote: Lucidity, how does your top 3 Scumlist add up with two of them lynching the third? I´d also like you to answer this question. | ||
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Lucidity
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If you flip Town we might as well -ff. | ||
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Forumite
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On September 22 2011 06:53 Lucidity wrote: Let's first see who leaves their vote on you and what you flip. If you flip Town we might as well -ff. What does -ff mean? Wouldn´t it be better to start right away? Some, like Curu, base the whole idea of the scumteam on me being scum, so his scumlist should change a lot if he only took time to take another look at this with me as Town. It´s not like the next 3h 42m until lynch are better spent waiting. Analysing voting patterns won´t help much, since we haven´t found a scum yet. We will only see pushes, not defences, and since the lists won´t solve this, we need more discussion. | ||
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Lucidity
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Jackal changed his vote from Nisani with no reason. He hasn't given reasons in 3 days. I'd prefer a Jackal lynch. But I need to go sleep now. I wish deadlines were earlier. | ||
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Jackal58
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On September 22 2011 08:09 Lucidity wrote: And -ff means forfeit. Not even close. | ||
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Nisani201
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+ Show Spoiler + On September 14 2011 04:59 tnkted wrote: Uh, what? Did you even read my post? And as for contributing jack shit: I posted a small little analysis on Greymyst, he responded to my FoS and I'm satisfied with the way he responded. If you don't think that's enough contribution for day one, too fucking bad. I have a life, you know. Why would you say his defense wasn't convincing then? It's as if you put both things in there just to be safe. Your analysis on Greymist didn't seem genuine to me, that's why I'm jumping all over you now. The next page is all about people arguing over Sinani. What is wherebugsgo's contribution to this? "I can't tell you're alignment right now," and buddying up with Curu so that they can combine forces with bogus arguments against Sinani. The tunnelling continues, even though Sinani has proven that he had no intention of replicating his anti-town behavior from Ace's game. + Show Spoiler + On September 14 2011 12:21 wherebugsgo wrote: Sinani doesn't seem to have learned yet that we don't like his lurking/anti-town nill contribution style, yet you don't seem to care for policy lynching him. From here, WBG slowly gravitates away from the notion that Sinani is scum... until he votes for him. He does this in the name of stopping a no-lynch. The difference between this and when I voted for Curu is that the Sinani lynch gave us no information. If Curu had been lynched D1, it would have given us SOME information. Anyways. Day 2. He starts by pressuring dreamflower and tnkted. Jackal come out and talks about how tnkted is confirmed townie. WBG wants more information, and Jackal calls him out for wanting too much information, and votes for him. WBG responds with an OMGUS vote against Jackal. + Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 14:19 wherebugsgo wrote: On September 17 2011 14:13 Jackal58 wrote: Scum really hate when two townies know they are both townies don't you? Scum really hate when townies have knowledge that is denied to scum don't you? PM abilities in a non PM game are great. As I said before if you guys feel compelled to lynch me to verify my alignment I'm ok with that. But keep your dick beaters off of Twinkles. Sorry Curu. I didn't realize you were running LOTR when I posted that. My vote is going on Bugs. If you're town you can trust me or lynch me. But you damn sure aren't getting all the details. ##VOTE: wherebugsgo This is the biggest bullshit vote I've ever seen. I choose lynch. ##vote Jackal58 At this point, it's important to note that most of the people that WBG has been pressuring ended up being town. tnkted, sinani, dreamflower, myself. Anyways, Greymist posts a half-ass analysis on me, and wherebugsgo is the first to sheep on it. The Jackal vote was just for funsies, I actually thought he was town the whole time! + Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 16:19 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm fine with lynching Nisani. In hindsight I'm want to believe Jackal's claim because I had a town read on him all game. It doesn't add up to what I see in his behavior for him and tnkted to be scumbuddies. I just feel stupid because my entire case on tnkted is thrown out the window (for now, at least). Nisani was my #2 choice, so I won't be complaining there. ##unvote Jackal ##vote Nisani201 ...and the rest of all of his posts are LYNCH NISANI HE IS DA BADGUISE. I vote for him because of all the shit that has been going on, and he sees it as scummy. Fast forward. Lucidity begins to pressure WBG. How does WBG respond? YOU ARE A LIAR YOU NEED TA DIE! This is then followed by his final scum reads: + Show Spoiler + On September 19 2011 08:52 wherebugsgo wrote: lucidity/tnkted/Jackal scumteam IMO. New accusations. This a good example of scum flailing all over the place because obviously everyone that they attack is town. Because it's all based on false scummy behavior, everyone in town is "scum" based on what he says in-thread. Later on, I come in to confirm that Forumite has an element, saving his ass. And how does WBG respond? + Show Spoiler + On September 19 2011 10:29 wherebugsgo wrote: ##unvote Lucidity ##vote Nisani201. Later on, he spits out some desperate bullshit. Stuff like this: + Show Spoiler + On September 19 2011 10:49 wherebugsgo wrote: Lynching me will get us all closer to lylo. If we can't get enough votes due to inactivity then we should no lynch and try again tomorrow. Before, he voted for Sinani against his assumptions to avoid a no-lynch. But now he's encouraging a no-lynch! Oh, and in case you forgot, he's a townie. The rest of his posts are simply him tunnelling me. Here are some gems: + Show Spoiler + On September 21 2011 06:18 wherebugsgo wrote: If this isn't distancing then I don't know what is. On September 21 2011 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote: Wtf? I want to point out the fact that, having been caught on this scumslip his only choice is to give away the piece. Him giving away the piece is NOT AN INDICATOR OF ALIGNMENT I posted in the thread that the piece didn't work for me. Giving it away was my intent from the very beginning. There's also his quote wall against me, which suffered heavily from filter syndrome, where one solely uses posts found in filter to attack someone, without looking at context. It is most commonly found among scum, but it is also a product of bad town play. Conclusion I realize that it is likely I will be lynched today. And I would much rather prefer it to a no-lynch. However, I strongly recommend rethinking your vote and considering lynching wherebugsgo instead. Cyber_cheese is scum as well, but that is for a different time. GL HF town. | ||
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Nisani201
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wherebugsgo
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On September 22 2011 08:04 Lucidity wrote: You know, I don't like that your lynch has had no opposition. There are still 3 hours to go, but effectively it's the end of the day for me. Jackal changed his vote from Nisani with no reason. He hasn't given reasons in 3 days. I'd prefer a Jackal lynch. But I need to go sleep now. I wish deadlines were earlier. Actually I oppose Forumite's lynch. But, I guess to you I only exist when it's convenient. I've already said what I needed to say, I'm not going to waste my time on it because it honestly looks like no one is willing to listen to me anymore. Instead, I'm now going to give Nisani the courtesy of my response, unlike the rude dismissal of my arguments he and Lucidity have made, particularly the last day. First of all, Nisani brings up arguments that were made more than a week ago, that are now almost completely invalid because they were made with less information than what we have now. Let's start. On September 22 2011 09:04 Nisani201 wrote: wherebugsgo begins by calling out tnkted on actively lurking. However, this is not the case. At this point, tnkted had discussed other candidates for early lynches. When tnkted responds, wherebugsgo's rebuttal is that the contributions weren't "genuine." + Show Spoiler + On September 14 2011 04:59 tnkted wrote: Uh, what? Did you even read my post? And as for contributing jack shit: I posted a small little analysis on Greymyst, he responded to my FoS and I'm satisfied with the way he responded. If you don't think that's enough contribution for day one, too fucking bad. I have a life, you know. Why would you say his defense wasn't convincing then? It's as if you put both things in there just to be safe. Your analysis on Greymist didn't seem genuine to me, that's why I'm jumping all over you now. Nisani, did you even read what I was attacking tnkted for? He claimed Greymist's defense was not very satisfying but that he had had enough with him (wtf?) I thought he was being wishy washy on this, since he said Greymist's defense wasn't good, but that he was going to drop him as a candidate. That doesn't really make sense...when someone's defense is bad you pursue them further. That is also why I called his case disingenuous. It was poorly thought out, and I thought it was wasting our time day 1 on focusing a town target. On September 22 2011 09:04 Nisani201 wrote: The next page is all about people arguing over Sinani. What is wherebugsgo's contribution to this? "I can't tell you're alignment right now," and buddying up with Curu so that they can combine forces with bogus arguments against Sinani. The tunnelling continues, even though Sinani has proven that he had no intention of replicating his anti-town behavior from Ace's game. + Show Spoiler + On September 14 2011 12:21 wherebugsgo wrote: Sinani doesn't seem to have learned yet that we don't like his lurking/anti-town nill contribution style, yet you don't seem to care for policy lynching him. No shit I couldn't tell his alignment. After Ace's game I realized that you can never tell Sinani's alignment cause he plays like an idiot. Even in this game I couldn't tell his alignment because he refused to contribute and his defense of himself was extraordinarily lackluster. However, I believed the bandwagon on him was bad because of how fast it developed. Also, I did not tunnel Sinani. I don't know why you are insinuating this but it is clearly disingenuous and misleading. In addition, people kept calling me out for not voting him at the time when I thought he had already been hammered. When someone (I think it was Forumite) pointed out that we would be no-lynching if I didn't vote, I recounted and realized that sinani only had 6 votes, and not 7. I decided I'd vote him because at the time I thought no lynching day 1 would be a bad idea. I was okay with lynching Sinani over lynching no one, but my complacence was my mistake. I should've gone with my gut and forced a no lynch. Of course, had I done that I would've taken flak from Jackal, Lucidity, etc. instead and probably would've been insta bandwagoned and lynched. That would've been incredibly dumb. We already went over this when dreamflower was here at the beginning of day 2. It's not my fault you never contribute to these discussions, in particular that you never found this odd until now. It is now toward the end of day 3, something like 7 real time days since that happened. You had all the time in the world to put forth your opinion about it, and now you choose to do so? On September 22 2011 09:04 Nisani201 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 14 2011 12:21 wherebugsgo wrote: Sinani doesn't seem to have learned yet that we don't like his lurking/anti-town nill contribution style, yet you don't seem to care for policy lynching him. From here, WBG slowly gravitates away from the notion that Sinani is scum... until he votes for him. He does this in the name of stopping a no-lynch. The difference between this and when I voted for Curu is that the Sinani lynch gave us no information. If Curu had been lynched D1, it would have given us SOME information. Again, it's not my fault you didn't contribute. Or at least, what you contributed was so bad no one actually listened to you. Also, you know that lynching Sinani gave us no information IN HINDSIGHT. If we lynched Curu and he flipped town we'd be in the same exact boat, except Curu was actually contributing at the time while Sinani was doing absolutely nothing. I thought lynching Sinani was better than a no lynch because a no lynch is guaranteed to give us no information other than an immediate (and irrational) suspicion of whoever caused it. On September 22 2011 09:04 Nisani201 wrote: Anyways. Day 2. He starts by pressuring dreamflower and tnkted. Jackal come out and talks about how tnkted is confirmed townie. WBG wants more information, and Jackal calls him out for wanting too much information, and votes for him. WBG responds with an OMGUS vote against Jackal. How is this supposed to lead into me being scum, exactly? It sounds like you're just recapping events. Firstly, tnkted was my scumread from day 1 and we didn't lynch scum day 1. So, I continued pressuring tnkted. Also, I wanted to know more from dreamflower since she seemed to be accusing me of being flip floppy when she herself was being flip floppy (saying she would've been mad at a no lynch but then saying it was weird that one didn't happen. Playing both sides of the coin there) I didn't pressure her though, if I wanted to pressure her I'd actually have voted her. Imagine that! Finally, of course I wanted more information. If you just come out and call my number 1 scumread confirmed town I'm not going to sit there and believe you. When Jackal refused to say anything he actually voted me. I decided I wasn't going to hold any punches and I voted him back to pressure him into giving out some information about why tnkted was town. Luckily, it worked, because I realized they were trying to assemble pieces. I breadcrumbed I had the piece of honesty, then I realized that no one would ever understand what I was doing, so I straight up claimed I had it. How is this scummy? At this point, it's important to note that most of the people that WBG has been pressuring ended up being town. tnkted sinani, dreamflower, myself. Anyways, Greymist posts a half-ass analysis on me, and wherebugsgo is the first to sheep on it. The Jackal vote was just for funsies, I actually thought he was town the whole time! LOL 1. I never pressured Sinani. 2. I never pressured dreamflower either, I responded to her questions and found some things weird. 3. The Jackal vote is what's called a pressure vote. I know how to do one, unlike you (who actually declares it to be a pressure vote rofl) Also, you don't even know when to use a pressure vote (you don't use it day 1...you use it when you need information critically) 4. That wasn't sheeping. I already had you on my watchlist on day 1. Way to forget. + Show Spoiler + On September 17 2011 16:19 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm fine with lynching Nisani. In hindsight I'm want to believe Jackal's claim because I had a town read on him all game. It doesn't add up to what I see in his behavior for him and tnkted to be scumbuddies. I just feel stupid because my entire case on tnkted is thrown out the window (for now, at least). Nisani was my #2 choice, so I won't be complaining there. ##unvote Jackal ##vote Nisani201 See above. On Jackal, I always find it hard to read him. However, I had a gut feeling he was town from the start or I'd have accused him day 1. When he came out of nowhere and said tnkted was confirmed I was like wtf? so I pressured him into providing more information. I backed off when his response was clearly a town response, and when I had the information that I was seeking. There's also his quote wall against me, which suffered heavily from filter syndrome, where one solely uses posts found in filter to attack someone, without looking at context. It is most commonly found among scum, but it is also a product of bad town play Nisani can you say "hypocrite?" You accuse me (wrongly) of using only the filter function to attack you, when it's clear you've done nothing but do that to me. Lol. If you actually had read the context of my posts you'd know the motivations behind me voting tnkted, Jackal, Lucidity, etc. | ||
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