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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
Activity level here is disappointing. I have no list of strong suspects atm. I believe there are some others in this game that understand my claim regarding tnkted. That understanding does not necessarily mean they're town though. I am going out for the evening shortly. I probably won't be back on until tomorrow morning. I will attempt to answer any questions directed at me then. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On September 17 2011 06:41 Lucidity wrote: If you are town you've basically let scum know that you've got some special powerz. There's no point in trying to hide that now, is there? I'm going to let jackal answer this. I only know one piece of the puzzle more than you guys do and I don't know how jackal wants to release the info. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
Jackal, why Curu? | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Jackal and tntked are linked in some way, this much is clear. I feel that this clears both of suspicion for now in my eyes. from a mafia perspective it doesn't make sense to call attention to themselves, at least this early on in the game. Establishing themselves with a connection this early on is something I feel 2 townies would do to confirm each other, rather than a gambit by the scum to get town cred. Coupled with the fact that jackal seems to be playing differently than when he is scum makes me want to investigate other options for a lynch today other than tntked. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 17 2011 05:38 tnkted wrote: Just tell them jackal, the info is pro-town and if you're killed it confirms my alignment anyway which mafia does not want. Vice versa if you're killed. Why don't you tell us? This sudden claim stuff is hella shady to me. It came at a really strange time of day, and it's not making any sense yet other than Jackal "confirming" tnkted as town. I find it weird that it's been put out there that tnkted is town but there's almost no explanation as for why or how. If you actually are town you'll get shot for sure (which is just dumb to me, idk why you would do that) and if you're not it makes sense as a gambit to get another mislynch today and get us closer to mylo. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On September 17 2011 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote: Why don't you tell us? This sudden claim stuff is hella shady to me. It came at a really strange time of day, and it's not making any sense yet other than Jackal "confirming" tnkted as town. I find it weird that it's been put out there that tnkted is town but there's almost no explanation as for why or how. If you actually are town you'll get shot for sure (which is just dumb to me, idk why you would do that) and if you're not it makes sense as a gambit to get another mislynch today and get us closer to mylo. I think this lowers their suspicion level to me. here is why: Note when Jackal posted his assertion that tntked was town for the first time. Before the night post. Before that point a lot of us were talking about tntked and his behavior the previous day. The best reason I can see of this is that jackal thought the chances were good that he was going to die that night, so he posted information he had somehow obtain that tntked was town, in hopes that his death, flipping green/blue, and his post would prevent another mislynch on tntked today. The more complicated explination is that he is mafia, he fabricates a post about his scumbuddie tntked being town, and posts it in hopes the above argument is assumed, and a vig doesnt hit him or tnkted making him look guilty, or tntked isnt lynched anyway, exposing jackal as a liar, and now the scum is down by 2. I do not see any senario that would occur if only one of tntked or jackal was scum. in my eyes both have to either be town, or scum. Occam's Razor dictates that the first senario (with them both being town) is more simple, and therefore more likely. However, I await your explanation as to what in the hell is going on. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 17 2011 11:11 GreYMisT wrote: I think this lowers their suspicion level to me. here is why: Note when Jackal posted his assertion that tntked was town for the first time. Before the night post. Before that point a lot of us were talking about tntked and his behavior the previous day. The best reason I can see of this is that jackal thought the chances were good that he was going to die that night, so he posted information he had somehow obtain that tntked was town, in hopes that his death, flipping green/blue, and his post would prevent another mislynch on tntked today. The more complicated explination is that he is mafia, he fabricates a post about his scumbuddie tntked being town, and posts it in hopes the above argument is assumed, and a vig doesnt hit him or tnkted making him look guilty, or tntked isnt lynched anyway, exposing jackal as a liar, and now the scum is down by 2. I do not see any senario that would occur if only one of tntked or jackal was scum. in my eyes both have to either be town, or scum. Occam's Razor dictates that the first senario (with them both being town) is more simple, and therefore more likely. However, I await your explanation as to what in the hell is going on. I don't think you can tell either way. Either they're both townies, and Jackal knows something about tnkted so he's trying to prevent him from getting lynched. Or they're both mafia making a gambit to gain towncred. Look how fast half the town believed tnkted. What's weird to me is that tnkted seems to know how Jackal knows he is town. This makes very little sense to me, since certainly tnkted would back up Jackal when Jackal is defending him, but then why would tnkted push Jackal to explain it, in a way that seems as if tnkted already knows HOW Jackal knows? It just doesn't add up to me. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Neither of them have contributed one. I've contributed my list, but other than tnkted no one really grabbed anyone's attention yesterday. We have to consolidate today or we're gonna be in deep shit. And certainly if we don't lynch mafia today, and we don't lynch tnkted/Jackal (and they're both alive), I'm going to be looking into them a lot harder. If someone has a better target I'm willing to drop tnkted for now, but no one has presented anything yet. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On September 17 2011 11:16 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't think you can tell either way. Either they're both townies, and Jackal knows something about tnkted so he's trying to prevent him from getting lynched. Or they're both mafia making a gambit to gain towncred. Look how fast half the town believed tnkted. What's weird to me is that tnkted seems to know how Jackal knows he is town. This makes very little sense to me, since certainly tnkted would back up Jackal when Jackal is defending him, but then why would tnkted push Jackal to explain it, in a way that seems as if tnkted already knows HOW Jackal knows? It just doesn't add up to me. Hmmm I did not think about that. The only way that i could think up is the fact that maybe a mason-like role exists in the game. This also comes up a bit empty because how would jackal hold more pieces to the puzzle. Tntked, any info is better for us than no info at all. Please explain what to your knowledge is going on here. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On September 17 2011 11:25 wherebugsgo wrote: yeah, that's the last bit. They've "claimed" but it's not clear at all. If you're going to claim as town (and draw mafia attention) you might as well claim in full. Only they and the mafia right now know their alignment, and that's not really helping the rest of us. Scum really hate when two townies know they are both townies don't you? Scum really hate when townies have knowledge that is denied to scum don't you? PM abilities in a non PM game are great. As I said before if you guys feel compelled to lynch me to verify my alignment I'm ok with that. But keep your dick beaters off of Twinkles. Sorry Curu. I didn't realize you were running LOTR when I posted that. My vote is going on Bugs. If you're town you can trust me or lynch me. But you damn sure aren't getting all the details. ##VOTE: wherebugsgo | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 17 2011 14:13 Jackal58 wrote: Scum really hate when two townies know they are both townies don't you? Scum really hate when townies have knowledge that is denied to scum don't you? PM abilities in a non PM game are great. As I said before if you guys feel compelled to lynch me to verify my alignment I'm ok with that. But keep your dick beaters off of Twinkles. Sorry Curu. I didn't realize you were running LOTR when I posted that. My vote is going on Bugs. If you're town you can trust me or lynch me. But you damn sure aren't getting all the details. ##VOTE: wherebugsgo This is the biggest bullshit vote I've ever seen. I choose lynch. ##vote Jackal58 | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
If you know what we're talking about, you know what we're talking about. We don't know about you, which is bad, but neither does scum, which is good; if you can communicate with us, talk to jackal. Otherwise, go ahead and throw your chips at us; me and jackal were the lucky two in that we could PM each other. If you don't know what we're talking about, it's probably not important to you. Rely on the townies that do to pull their shit together. By the way, we got incredibly lucky that jackal is town. @Jackie: I think you can give them a little more info tbh (IE my side of the story) but it's up to you. Mafia already knows what's going on. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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