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On September 21 2011 13:52 Curu wrote:
F orumite is not a Townie Town,
O bviously guys just look at his frown!
R ed are his intentions for this Pony land,
U ntil he is banished by Town's righteous hand.
M agic is friendship or maybe the other way around,
I think we need to love and tolerate Forumite into the ground.
T o teach this scummy Pony that friendship is truly the way to go,
E veryone should absolutely positively vote Forumite, no one say no!
When I eventually flip Town, who do you suspect of being Scum then?
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On September 21 2011 17:31 Lucidity wrote:
Is no one going to come forward with the elements of Kindness?
Everyone alive has been here since you announced the first time, so either the owner missed it, the owner died since N2 (DF and Greymist), the owner is a scum who doesn´t want petrification-proof ponies, or the owner is a Town who doesn´t trust your claim. I don´t see the problem with claiming as Town, so it´s probably one of the other alternatives, and apart from telling people again, there´s not much to do about it.
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tnkted, you never explained why you roleblocked me. I didn´t have an element, so what were you trying to prevent from happening? Why didn´t you save it for when a scum got into possession of an element instead?
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On September 21 2011 22:22 Nisani201 wrote:
No you guys are wrong.
I have the Element of Honesty, but I have to give it to someone in order for it to work. But I don't know if it's a specific person or just anyone.
I have never held the complete element of Honesty so I don´t know what it does. Do you want it back right away, or is it an ability you are using when giving it away?
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tnkted, how did Honesty end up with Nisani?
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On September 21 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote:It didn't Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:22 Nisani201 wrote:
No you guys are wrong.
I have the Element of Honesty, but I have to give it to someone in order for it to work. But I don't know if it's a specific person or just anyone. That's a lie. ##UNVOTE:
##VOTE: Nisani201.
*facehoof*
##Vote: Nisani201
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wherebugsgo (-)
1-Nisani201
Nisani201 (3)
2-wherebugsgo
9-Jackal58
10-Forumite
Forumite (1)
3-Jackal58
4-Curu
5-Cyber_Cheese
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6-Lucidity
8-Nisani201
Lucidity (1)
7-Cyber_Cheese
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On September 21 2011 22:55 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote:It didn't On September 21 2011 22:22 Nisani201 wrote:
No you guys are wrong.
I have the Element of Honesty, but I have to give it to someone in order for it to work. But I don't know if it's a specific person or just anyone. That's a lie. ##UNVOTE:
##VOTE: Nisani201. I dont exactly get what is going on here, why is that a lie and what is the element of honesty?
Read the thread...
The element of Honesty is an item which can freely be given away between ponies. I and WBG got the two halves of it during Night 1, and we both gave our pieces to tnkted, who combined them into the Element of Honesty.
Nisani201 just claimed he has it, Jackal called him out on it, most likely because he holds the element of honesty himself. There´s only one element of Honesty, so Nisani201 (or Jackal58) is lying. Only Scum need to lie, so we lynch Nisani201.
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On September 21 2011 23:29 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 21:35 Forumite wrote:
tnkted, you never explained why you roleblocked me. I didn´t have an element, so what were you trying to prevent from happening? Why didn´t you save it for when a scum got into possession of an element instead? I did it because I thought you were scummiest on the field. And there were no other elements in the field at the time when I blocked you, kindness just appeared this morning, and I had the rest of them. What did it block you from doing? I'd be suprised if you recieved a roleblock pm when you didn't try to do anything.
I didn´t do anything tonight, I just received a PM saying I was roleblocked anyway. You might find it surprising, but apparently that´s how GM does it in this game.
Your roleblock, it was a once-only, seems like such a waste when it could be used at the end-game to block a scum from using the elements.
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On September 21 2011 23:37 Erandorr wrote:
Btw this whole thing here convinced me even further that forumite is scum.
Time to kill some scum
##vote forumite
Humor me, what did your scumradar pick up on today?
On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up
##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58
I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?
OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese.
Nisani, do you still hold the element, because in that case, there´s a simple way to prove it, give it to someone active (not me, I will be away from the computer for a few hours).
If whoever you sent it to receive the item, we lynch Jackal for trying to frame you. If he doesn´t get it, then we lynch you for lying.
Sounds good?
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On September 22 2011 03:34 Nisani201 wrote:
I breadcrumbed because I did not know if there was a specific person who was told that they needed the element. If I said HEY GUISE I GOTZ DA ELEMENT WHO WANTS IT HURRRR, then scum might ask for it. But breadcrumbing it would only make sense to the person who needed it (however obviously this got severely messed up because I was breadcrumbing the wrong element).
Mind explaining my other "contradictions"?
The stupid thing you did was breadcrumbing for an element that noone knew anything about. Every element in the game has since worked differently.
Honesty, 2 pieces
Loyalty, 2 pieces, holders may PM eachother until it´s combined.
Generosity, allready combined, activates only when given away to another pony.
Kindness, 2 pieces
Because noone has any idea what Generosity does, breadcrumbing that you have it does absolutely nothing. For the others at least one other player knew the other element was in play and how to activate it, so breadcrumbs actually works if the right person see it, but Generosity was an unknown, so breadcrumbing for it does nothing at all, except draw nightkills to you.
That being said, I´m just waiting for the piece to turn up before unvoting. It was a stupid mistake, but it´s not something a scum would do on purpose.
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On September 22 2011 03:12 Lucidity wrote:
A name is not the same as a time.
I had to double check my element name before I posted as well.
There's no way I wouldn't know that I got an item AT THE START OF THE GAME.
Setting the facts straight: I got my piece of Honesty with the Day 1 post, not with the rolepost, it was around a realtime day between those.
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This is my take on Curu:
Me and Nisani was suspicious about scum within the CMC-circle, Curu was certain from the moment he claimed. There is only one way to be certain, it being if Curu is scum. When everyone claimed, this was his chance of throwing (more) suspicion on me, and avoid looking bad as the only one not claiming, so he took the chance.
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On September 22 2011 04:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Can we get a vote count oh powerful GMarshal?
Working on it
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Needs 5 votes to lynch.
wherebugsgo (1)
1-Nisani201
15-Nisani201
Nisani201 (2)
2-wherebugsgo
9-Jackal58
10-Forumite
13-tnkted
Forumite (2)
3-Jackal58
4-Curu
5-Cyber_Cheese
12-Erandorr
Cyber_Cheese (1)
6-Lucidity
8-Nisani201
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16-Jackal58
Lucidity (1)
7-Cyber_Cheese
Jackal58 (-)
11-Nisani201
Curu (1)
17-Lucidity
Modkills
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On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up
##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58
I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?
OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese. Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person. then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3 Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys. When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind: Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead. So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted?
WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense.
tnkted, any update on elements?
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Hmmm, I appear to have quoted posts that make a different point, though still relevant. He voted on Jackal and then sent the element to him, that makes no sense.
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On September 21 2011 23:30 Nisani201 wrote:
I don't have a half of the element of honesty (that I know of). I have the full thing, all I know is that I have to give it to someone else in order for it to work.
Jackal, what the fuck? First you lie about having the Element, and now you want me to give it to your scumbuddy?
##Vote: Jackal58 On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys.
These are the weird posts, first he votes on Jackal, then wants to give him the element.
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On September 22 2011 04:54 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:48 Forumite wrote:On September 22 2011 04:00 wherebugsgo wrote:On September 21 2011 23:39 Nisani201 wrote:
gahhh i messed it up
##Unvote
##Vote: Jackal58
I've found confirmed scum, and you're voting for Forumite?
OK WBG, my top 3 scum suspects, just for you: Jackal, WBG, and Cyber_Cheese. On September 21 2011 23:44 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, when I died and flip Town, you had better kill Jackal. I have confirmed scum and you're voting for the wrong person. then comes this gem that just kinda fell out, contradiction #3 On September 21 2011 23:51 Nisani201 wrote:
Giving the element to Jackal, hang on guys. When he realized how big of a scumslip that would be (accusing Jackal of being confirmed scum then wanting to give the piece to him) he immediately makes up an excuse for changing his mind: On September 21 2011 23:52 Nisani201 wrote:
omg the posts are coming in so quickly, giving it to tnkted instead. So posts coming in quickly was a reason for you to accuse Jackal of being confirmed scum, then suddenly say you're sending him the element (wtf why would you send it to someone you thought was scum) then immediately backtrack when you saw how bad that looked to send it to tnkted? WBG does have a point here. Nisani didn´t just miss what the element was called, he saw what Jackal did not as a reason to recheck what was really going on, but jumping on it as a reason to lynch Jackal. If he had just gotten a new element, then there´s no chance that Jackal would have it, so what Jackal says doesn´t make any sense at all. It would only make sense to vote for Jackal if it was really Honesty he had received, because THEN Jackal would look extremely scummy for lying about sending away an element. Missing the name of the element in question is an honest mistake, but thinking that Jackal was contesting his claim to a previously unknown element just doesn´t make sense. tnkted, any update on elements? Forumite is confirmed scum at this point. If he believed he had the element of Honesty. And Jackal comes into the thread and says he has it. He's obviously going to jump right on that shit and vote Jackal. How is that not obvious? Explain the logic to me if he were scum. How does his actions make any sense as scum?
If he was scum, and then claimed to have the element which Jackal has, then that throws suspicion at Jackal, and maybe even on tnkted when Jackal gives the element to tnkted to show he has it. Either Jackal or Nisani could be the one to be thrown in front of a lynch, if it was Jackal then it´s fine, if things turned bad then Nisani could recheck and remove suspicion on himself, but by then he might have delayed the game 6+ hours, if we just wait for GM to fix the item-PMs, and then wait for whoever is to receive the item. I´ve seen a game go silent for 23 hours because someone said he had an amazing analysis coming up, don´t tell me that´s pro-Town.
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On September 22 2011 05:00 Lucidity wrote:
I would be absolutely over the moon if you could be lynched today. Too bad Greymist died last night for suggesting we lynch you to confirm tnkted. I don't think anyone else sees how uninterested you are in hunting scum.
You often come back to if someone is interested in hunting scum. You think I´m scum due to not scumhunting, even though I have a very non-aggressive playstyle, which is why I draw votes for being wishy-washy, but that´s just the way I play, it´s not a scumtell to me, because my Town metagame is not based around pressuring and hunting as much as other players. Now, the important question here is not how I play, it´s if it is normal for Jackal to scumhunt aggressively? Do you think he´s going for easy lynches and is carefull to not take an unpopular stand?
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