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On September 13 2011 09:41 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 09:38 chaos13 wrote:On September 13 2011 09:33 Jackal58 wrote:On September 13 2011 08:10 Zona wrote: To be more explicit, I suspect that it's possible Ace's actual answer will be different from what Palmar supplied. I believe Palmar asked. I believe you're lying. Jackal, tell me what mafia has to gain from lying in such a situation. Town cred. Hell we don't even know if scum have 2 kp and a role blocker. In a game with 16 players and 1/4 of them are scum 2 kp seems quite OP to me.
So you think PM'ing Ace and asking about medics gets you town cred?
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On September 13 2011 09:48 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 09:45 chaos13 wrote:On September 13 2011 09:41 Jackal58 wrote:On September 13 2011 09:38 chaos13 wrote:On September 13 2011 09:33 Jackal58 wrote:On September 13 2011 08:10 Zona wrote: To be more explicit, I suspect that it's possible Ace's actual answer will be different from what Palmar supplied. I believe Palmar asked. I believe you're lying. Jackal, tell me what mafia has to gain from lying in such a situation. Town cred. Hell we don't even know if scum have 2 kp and a role blocker. In a game with 16 players and 1/4 of them are scum 2 kp seems quite OP to me. So you think PM'ing Ace and asking about medics gets you town cred? Somebody has missed the big picture.
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On September 13 2011 10:02 Palmar wrote: and the rest of the scumteam (sandroba, mig, chaos? xtf?) are hiding!
lol try harder Palmar.
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On September 13 2011 10:11 wherebugsgo wrote:if chaos tries harder he'll just keep accusing the wrong people lol + Show Spoiler +

You and Palmar are going down.
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Who is it that's still around after the mess of Day 1 when the other two leading lynch candidates flipped town? Who has since flown under the radar and managed to get away with not contributing anything?
That person would be GGQ. Here is his filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261732&user=38664
Take a quick look at it. A quick look is all you need. This guy is scum.
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I was completely convinced on both Palmar and WBG's scumminess yesterday. Obviously, there are some issues with that though.
I would much prefer GGQ to sandroba. sand isn't playing to his usual meta, but that's the biggest part of the argument against him. His actions themselves aren't particularly telling of scumminess. I would also like to remind everyone of chaoser's DT claim in XLIV. Keep a healthy skepticism.
Palmar, why did you check bum N1 instead of iGrok or GGQ?
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On September 13 2011 22:10 xtfftc wrote: Is it possible that WBG jailed a mafia on the first night and this is why there was only one KP? I'll check his posts for breadcrumbs and I'd recommend everyone else to do the same.
Due to some alien physics you can't roleblock the Mafia kill though.
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On September 14 2011 04:36 Ace wrote:Day 3 votes
Palmar - sandroba, bumatlarge
Why are mafia not hammering this shut? Two possible scenarios 1. Palmar is scum 2. One or both of sand/bum is scum
I'm more inclined to believe option two is the correct one, since I don't understand Palmar's claim from a mafia perspective. And if Palmar's and Jackal's claims are true, then bumatlarge is scum for sure.
##unvote ##vote bumatlarge
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##unvote ##Vote bumatlarge
Since you missed it earlier
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What the hell just happened? Did two scum just fake claim DT....?
fuck
On September 15 2011 12:59 sandroba wrote: And if there is actually an SK we just delivered you a list with 3 mafia. Do your job pls.
Yeah unfortunately the quickest way for an SK to win is to side with mafia and kill a townie.
Your scum list is Jackal58, BayonetteAnderson, Mig, and Palmar btw. You're welcome.
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On September 15 2011 21:53 Palmar wrote: but why did I not get shot from visiting bum?
only thing is that I got bussed somewhere else or something, how does that work?
It works by you being lying scum the whole time.
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lol greatest endgame ever
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If BA hadn't been roleblocked we could have all voted bum and won that day.
For some idiotic reason we didn't change our plan after he was blocked.
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On September 19 2011 09:40 wherebugsgo wrote: Actually Ace I didn't make a mistake by speculating mafia KP=2. I did that to trap and make myself look scummy.
Anyone who jumped on my "scumslip" would basically be mafia to me. I caught Palmar and chaos (and if you notice I immediately switched off Jackal onto Palmar near the end of my play) but I thought chaos was just being dumb so I let him slide (mistake)
I also assumed I'd live because no one thought I was a prot role (mafia didn't, but SK did. Mistake)
My third mistake was protting Bayonnet, though in a sense it wasn't terrible because it prevented him from using his day shot.
Never fake a scum slip to catch scum. Of course mafia are going to jump on it. Cause it's a fucking scum slip.
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We didn't shoot bumatlarge because of that first post you made. No town power role is going to say that except someone who wants to get hit. We were thinking vet and I'm very glad we didn't hit you based on your actual role. We never considered the possibility of a PGO.
I may have been the most well-hidden of scum near the end of the game, but Mig or BA surviving was our only hope of winning. We needed their ability to manipulate things during the day. After night 2 my role was pretty much useless, there were so many people dead and we made the decision to forgo secrecy for an endgame blitz. If Mig had been shot instead of me GGQ probably would have won.
Great reading in the Round Table, that's an awesome idea. It's interesting to see the analysis you guys had there. I'm really glad none of you were in the game, or I would have been screwed early on. I got lucky this game. As scum I always like to push bad lynches, cause hell, scum never do that so blatantly. My reasoning against GGQ was shitty though, and I definitely could have improved on that. With all the random votes and bickering at the beginning of the game there were so many chances to make a non-scummy vote and contribute to the chaos that I completely missed cause I was stuck thinking "Don't make a scummy vote, don't make a scummy vote."
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