I didn't figure there was any way he'd die, seeing as half of town thought he was scum. And I sure as hell didn't expect getting a guilty report and having him flip blue.

Palmar

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September 13 2011 09:44 GMT

#681

We should mass-claim btw, we're in lylo

Palmar

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September 13 2011 09:46 GMT

#682

On September 13 2011 13:24 BayonnetAnderson wrote:
I survived a hit last night and was roleblocked.

Judging by this WBG protected you tonight, and likely protected Zona last night.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

September 13 2011 09:53 GMT

#683

I know you're reading this Jackal, time to claim.

The rest of you we need everyone to claim.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

September 13 2011 10:10 GMT

#684

By the way, you guys might wanna hold your votes, two bad townie votes and the mafia can blitz hammer it for a win.

I think Sandroba should be our lynch today, he's repeatedly promised to deliver and lurked, but he's done nothing that makes me even remotely consider the possibility of him being town.

I'm not gonna vote until we get discussion though, if I vote and jackal is town and for some reason we're wrong, then mafia can hammer it. So hold your votes until we're sure what we wanna do.

Palmar

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September 13 2011 12:09 GMT

#687

You need to claim bitch, we're in lylo

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

September 13 2011 12:11 GMT

#688

and stop fucking voting you idiots, two townies on an innocent = mafia can win with a vote-blitz.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

September 13 2011 15:37 GMT

#697

Can't tell if bad or scum... you're making so many logical leaps here.

Everyone should claim, what good would it do me to claim after the lynch? if the lynch is incorrect we're dead anyway? We're not playing some kind of a long-term game here now, we need to get it right today, what little information I have needs to be out there, same goes for the rest of you.

I check people who are likely to stay alive (ie: not be shot by either mafia or vigis) and are hard to read or I have little experience with. And of course my checks don't match my posts, why would I bother analysing people I'm about to get an alignment check on?

fuck it, you're probably scum.

Palmar

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September 13 2011 15:39 GMT

#698

On September 14 2011 00:21 xtfftc wrote:
He kept on defending Bum during Day 1 and checked him afterwards.

Oh nice, bonus points for lying, I said once that I was leaning town on Bum on day 1.

That's not "keeping on defending" I did that day 2, and for a good damn reason...

Palmar

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September 13 2011 16:28 GMT

#700

On September 14 2011 01:18 sandroba wrote:
I'm towny. Okay this claim possibly means 3 things:
1) Palmar is scum and Bum town. Makes some sense.
2) Bum is scum and Palmar is town. The odds of mafia framing wbg the night they shot him are simply ridiculous. That means Palmar is insane if really a DT. Palmar has to know this and if he was town he would be pushing for bum like a crazy man today, not suddenly deciding to go after me after he said yesterday he believed me. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Palmar just has no reason to assume bum got framed night one. Also not knowing about his sanity in the first place he would not be yelling bum is town before he confirmed it.
3) Both are scum. This makes the most sense, because palmar is not going after bum, which would make his story the most believable.
4)Both are town. For this to happen Bum needs to have been framed night one and palmar has to be behaving like an idiot as a DT. He keeps yelling Bum is town for no reason and somehow mafia doesn't pick up on this and shoot him. Not likely at all.

your point no 4 is just plain wrong. you guys didn't shoot me because people suspect me.

For 4 to happen Bum doesn't need to have been framed, all it takes is wbg being framed on day 2, and me actually being sane, that's the explanation I'd go with.

But thanks, now you've just confirmed you're not using logic this game, you're scum.

And why would I not defend a person who I have an innocent check on, it's only after I got the false check on wbg that I started doubting my sanity or the possibility of framers.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

September 13 2011 17:11 GMT

#707

Can we get more claims?

I think Jackal's claim is legit, re-reading to see if he's town or scum, if he's town we lynch bum.

Palmar

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September 13 2011 17:20 GMT

#710

On September 14 2011 02:12 sandroba wrote:
What do you say about my analysis of there being no roleblockers? Do you still think 2 cops is plausible?
Man this is a fucking 16 man game!!! No way there are 2 cops. Also palmar is making no sense and thus is scum. Since I find it hard to believe you would claim cop as scum AFTER Palmar just claimed cop, I'm going to tentatively believe your claim. Why did you check those guys and you never checked me though? I've been thouroughly discussed since night one.

two gimp cops, the only medic in the game yet also roleblocks whoever he protects, so that works like a roleblocker anyway.

you're crazy.

@Jackal, why didn't you claim your result right away? You had information and we're in lylo.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

September 13 2011 17:26 GMT

#712

and still are.

cba with arguing with you right now, I'll come back later when more town

Palmar

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September 13 2011 17:27 GMT

#713

ebwop: when more townies are around to actually read what's going on, don't fucking vote for me unless you're scum. If two townies vote and I get blitzed then I'm going to tackle someone.

Palmar

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September 13 2011 18:20 GMT

#726

On September 14 2011 02:57 sandroba wrote:
Man please, just look at what palmar just said. He says that the most reasonable explanation is that he is sane and wbg got framed and shot. Palmar is not an idiot. He obviously has some agenda behind this and is scum. There is no way around it. That is undeniable proof he is scum. Can we please just lynch him. I'll let you guys lynch me if you want when we are no longer at lylo to clear things up if you guys really insist (meaning we must hit scum today and the next).

obviously that no longer applies now that Zona claimed the shot on BA and jackal claimed a conflicting result to mine. Why the the hell would I not just claim to have a fucking guilty on a townie instead of doing this ridiculousness that didn't do jack shit if I was fake-claiming as scum.

Thankfully Jackal's claims match up with mine, so we actually have something to work with.

At the moment it's most likely I'm an insane cop and Bum is scum. The wbg thing no longer applies now that we know he likely got shot by scum (and thus wasn't framed) and jackal has a conflicting result to mine (and thus I must be insane).

Stop saying ridiculous things.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

September 13 2011 18:52 GMT

#734

yeah bum is scum, some time it took you to cook up a claim that directly counters mine.

derp

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

September 14 2011 08:19 GMT

#744

time for being careful is over. Bum claimed a role which he cannot be seeing as I am still alive. He's lying, and thus he's scum

##Vote Bumatlarge

Palmar

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September 14 2011 16:14 GMT

#751

On September 15 2011 01:09 Zona wrote:
Also, to our cops, I'm guessing neither of you breadcrumbed your investigations?

...Since you didn't mention anything when you made your claims.

I think me completely disregarding any case on bumatlarge yesterday was a good enough breadcrumb. You even specifically asked if I had any other reason to believe he was town, and I chose not to answer that question, as I did not want to claim at that point.

It's not until I got the incorrect check on WBG that I decided to actually claim, because it was clearly a wrong result. Then Jackal claimed his result of WBG being the same alignment as me, so WBG cannot have been framed, as Jackal and I would not get conflicting result.

So that basically leaves me being an insane cop, thus my innocent result on Bum is actually a guilty result.