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BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
September 14 2011 23:41 GMT
#797
On September 15 2011 08:38 Jackal58 wrote:
You were so sure sandroba was scum.

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On September 11 2011 12:41 BayonnetAnderson wrote:
sandroba

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So, I was bored, so I went meta/lurker hunting, and I found the man of the hour, the person everyone seems to be willing to call out for lurking, yet no one seems to want to vote for or make a formal accusation of. Its time I changed that. Lets fliter sandroba and see what agenda he is pushing, what wonderful pro-town plans he has come up with, what awesome discussion he has begun. Here is his filter

What jumps out at you right away? The guy has all of 10 posts! This is "active man" sandroba the guy who's posted such pro town sentiments as

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On July 25 2011 09:36 sandroba wrote:
Sup people, I'd like to propose a new policy this game.
Instead of lynching lurkers and liars, which produce no info whatsoever, we leave them to be shot at night by our vigs, if they exist. We can adjust acordingly if they fail to do their job.
The policy is to lynch all non-sense. People are getting away too easily by throwing random acusations that make no sense to pretend to be scum hunting. This is to pressure mafia into skilfully captalizing into people's mistakes if they want to suceed and survive. They can't lurk, because they will be getting shot, and can't pretend to be dumb, cuz they will get lynched. Of course pressuring people is okay, but if you are pushing hard a lynch for a lynch based on shoody evidence I'll tunnel you into oblivion.


and

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On August 14 2011 00:04 sandroba wrote:
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Okay people. First let's try to keep the posts regarding personality flavor to a bare minimum. This only helps mafia to hide, so don't go out of your way role playing. I know some people might have some posting restrictions, but know that posting any more fluf than you absolutely have to is anti-town behaviour and you WILL be held accountable for it.

Now I want this question answered by everybody:
Let's look at kurumi and his Bill Murray claim. Being BM, he could easily be VI trying to get lynched day1. He could also have a terrible posting restriction. Or he could be mafia trying to cause chaos. But we can't know for sure, so what I ask you is this: Do you think personalities point to aligment this game? Or do you think they only point towards role/posting style?

My guess would be that some personalities would have a very high chance of being a certain aligment (i.e. ace is prob scum), but others not so much.


Do we notice any policy post this game? Any suggestion that we vigi lurkers, or any point of discussion offered? Any attempt at generating controversy? No, we really don't. To anyone who has played with town sandroba in the past, this should be setting off every alarm bell in the system. We should be outright worried. this isn't how sandroba usually behaves. Lets be rational however, maybe its sandroba trying out a new style, trying a different method of playing, lets look at what he has actually contributed, maybe all our suspicion is unjustified, maybe he isn't posting plans because its a closed setup and he can't come up with anything, like talking about viging lurkers or avoiding tunnels or maintaining a pro-town atmosphere.

Oh, wait, he says this, which is... fascinating. Its trying to *look* like one of his usual policy posts, but in reality its dodging discussion and not supporting his reasons. To me it looks like he is trying to emulate one of his usual policy/plan posts, but isn't willing to fully commit to it or the scrutiny it might put him under.

So lets take a look at a couple of sandrobas wonderful contributions this game.

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On September 08 2011 08:04 sandroba wrote:
Sup I don't think GGQ is scum. Suspcious people to me so far are iGrok and xfttfc whose behaviour day1 is 100% different than mafia xliv. xftc is being too absurdly confindent about his reads and even basing an entire scum team out of them when the game was only one page long (LOL). The whole notion is so ridiculous that to me it seems he is over compensating for his behaviour in the last game where he was townie and was found scummy by a lot of others. Makes no sense for a townie to throw acusations into 4 players this early with so little info, but it makes a lot of sense for scum to try to create this sort of confusion. I'd like you gather your thoughts and post in a more coherent manner until I decide if you are scum or not.


You are right sandroba, throwing around suspicion *is* a mafia trait, great catch. I like how you mention iGrok in passing and don't actually say anything about him. Your description of xftc's behavior is pretty spot on, except your logic is all wrong. Scum *subtly* push lynches, they don't spearhead them, much less provide ridiculous scumlists, to me this looks like a shallow attempt to make an accusation out of almost no evidence. Notice how sandroba doesn't take a stance, notice how whishy washy the post is. He says X's (I'm never going to figure out how to spell his name) behavior "makes no sense for a townie", yet sandroba is willing to give him more time? He doesn't even vote for him, which is... odd... to say the least, considering how he just concluded town wouldn't be doing what X is doing. This post is worrying because its wishy-washy and non-committal

Sandroba then proceeds to push suspicion onto iGrok by adding pressure to him, then out of the blue we have
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On September 09 2011 07:04 sandroba wrote:
Alright TAA is the best lynch. No bullshit allowed here sir.
##Vote: TheAwesomeAll


What the HELL? we went from this where sandroba was turning up the heat (yet oddly enough not voting, to this. Hint as a rule of thumb if you are on the same wagon as someone you consider suspicious you at least think twice about it. So, what does sandroba really do all of day 1? He pushes suspicion on two people, X and iGrok, defends GGQ and proceeds to vote for someone he hadn't even mentioned yet, with no reason given, can you say easy bandwagon?

I could expand this post, looking at how he liked to push suspicion as scum, and how as town he is more active and questioning, but I don't honestly think its necessary, I'm pretty sure from what I've looked at alone we can tell he is scum.

For those who dislike thinking, sandroba is scum because he
1.) Lurks like a madman, unlike his usual town play
2.) Shows wishy washyness
3.) Pushes suspicion around, something he had already said was anti-town
4.) Jumps on an easy bandwagon, with no justification
5.) People in the thread keep calling him out on being scum, and then proceed to do exactly nothing.

Sandroba is scum

##Vote: Sandroba

The LORD is righteous:
he hath cut asunder the cords of the wicked.
Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.
Let them be as the grass upon the housetops,
which withereth afore it groweth up:
wherewith the mower filleth not his hand;
nor he that bindeth sheaves his bosom.


AMEN


And you were OK with a Bum lynch.
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On September 12 2011 01:29 BayonnetAnderson wrote:
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On September 12 2011 01:12 Curu wrote:
Based on right now I would lynch sinani, bum, Jackal, or Palmar. I don't know if sandroba is actually lack-of-interest Townie or doing syllogism style "lurk as scum even when pressured until people forget about you" but he has indicated he will post more. If he doesn't hold to this we can lynch him.

Please, town sandroba doesn't do this, I don't care what he's promised, notice how he showed up less than 6 hours after my analysis to promise more contribution? The guy is scum, no bones about it.

I'm also ok with the bum lynch, although I'm convinced WBG's "slip" isn't one, he's been way too fearless to be scum. I've been wrong in the past, but if WBG flipped red I would be exceedingly surprised.


But now you're voting with both of them.

I hate TV evangelists. You're all scummy con artists.

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"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
September 15 2011 02:54 GMT
#824
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK

GUESS WHAT? THE MAFIA HAS A POLITICIAN. WHO JUST BOUGHT MY VOTE.

##Vote: Bumatlarge

SJKSFJKFDFSJKLWPOIHJFSHJUIOSDFGHS

I AM GOING TO GO PUNCH KITTENS IN THE FACE.
GAHHHH, I HATE THIS GAME. HSDKJASDHJFSDAHJSDA
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
September 15 2011 03:02 GMT
#833
On September 15 2011 12:01 sandroba wrote:
jackal, will you absolutely not switch to palmar? Because I'm considering switching to bum to either get this over with or in the off chance I'm wrong.

Dont you fucking dare. Palmar is scum.

We *have* to have a vigi left.

I'm going to go take a walk before I say something I might regret.
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
September 15 2011 03:15 GMT
#851
On September 15 2011 12:13 Jackal58 wrote:
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On September 15 2011 12:12 sandroba wrote:
Who woulda guessed, I was right.

Why isn't the game over?

Is the mafia worried that there are vigis left? The game isn't as in the bag as you thought?

Vigis, nuke Palmar and Jackal, confirmed liars. From there on out we can figure it out.

and pray hard that one of them flips politician, or else we might be equally fucked.
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
September 15 2011 03:24 GMT
#855
On September 15 2011 12:21 sandroba wrote:
Spare jackal for now. Hit Palmar and mig. I'm still deciding who of bayonnet and jackal is scum.

Why the fuck would you spare what is basically a confirmed liar?

I can't believe you actually think jackal is town after how conveniently his claim supported Palmar

I'm going to sleep, I'll give my thoughts tomorrow before the daypost.

"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
September 16 2011 16:04 GMT
#949
[image loading]

My soul is weary of my life;
I will leave my complaint upon myself;
I will speak in the bitterness of my soul.
I will say unto God, Do not condemn me;
show me wherefore thou contendest with me.
Is it good unto thee that thou shouldest oppress,
that thou shouldest despise the work of thine hands,
and shine upon the counsel of the wicked?
Hast thou eyes of flesh?
Or seest thou as man seeth?
Are thy days as the days of man?
Are thy years as man's days,
that thou inquirest after mine iniquity,
and searchest after my sin?
Thou knowest that I am not wicked;
and there is none that can deliver out of thine hand.


AMEN
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
September 19 2011 00:19 GMT
#977
Game was pretty WTF. I played absolutely *awful* as scum, thanks for the save wbg!

Also I still think we needed to have bussed Palmar once he claimed DT, could have easily gotten Jackal killed and then won from there.

All is well that ends well, I guess.
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
September 19 2011 00:49 GMT
#986
On September 19 2011 09:46 chaos13 wrote:
If BA hadn't been roleblocked we could have all voted bum and won that day.

For some idiotic reason we didn't change our plan after he was blocked.

I tried to, I was the only one who tried to...

*cries*
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
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