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After deliberation, I have decided Cyber_Cheese's edit was not malicious in nature and have decided to let this go. I have warned him another mistake will result in a repercussion.
Following are the part that have been included by the edit:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 06 2011 02:58 Forumite wrote:
Nightkills is not a reliable way of finding scum, it´s mostly WIFOM.
Kurumi, could you tell us what you think about the game so far, and where you think the Scum and EA hide? Yeah your right, I actually think Kurumi's the EA though and forgot to change up that first Erandorr bit, that point should have been more along the lines of trying to fit in as a townie. If he were mafia, I doubt he would have tried to bus Wiggles quite that hard.
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On September 06 2011 00:26 Kurumi wrote:
Obviously I won't let lynch myself etc. It is hard to jump in as someone in a game and be a bit disoriented about the game (add that the player I am replacing was hardcore lurking..)
Also yay for insane kill.
On September 06 2011 04:40 Kurumi wrote:
Killing me won't skip the night. I wanted to hear question You might have. I got nothing, so I wrote nothing, ez huh? Oh, besides that stupid question "where will scum go" by forumite
lurkers because they're more than half of alive players? duh
If Jackal is right about Forumite and Cyber_Cheese
Eii is scum and Navillus is EA.
Navillus is lurking too btw, he promised to give some "insight" on the situations in the thread (never delivered)
was against tnkted lynch aand is for Kurumi lynch. Because Errandor and I were lurking and he is lurking. Lurky lurker suing lurky lurker. See?
Cyber Cheese - Read both of these very carefully. Put them in context of my post regarding who I believe to be in the lurker pool. Please change your vote accordingly.
##VOTE: Navillus
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Woah Jackal how did errandor and kurumi get out of this with no suspicion?
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On September 06 2011 10:33 Navillus wrote:
Woah Jackal how did errandor and kurumi get out of this with no suspicion?
Kurumi is Erandorr.
Among you 3 (Kurumi, Eiii and yourself) I said lays the final scum, EA and Psych.
Read Kurumi's last 2 posts with that in mind.
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First off the statement that EA and scum are definitely among the lurkers is very questionable, obviously given a choice they would be but you can't suddenly realize that you can get away with lurking and become a lurker if you've been talking you won't suddenly stop and frankly I think most people lurk or don't based on personal play-style and IRL situation not a conscious choice half-way through the game ALSO I don't see how what kurumi said couldn't just be him trying to direct suspicion onto eiii and myself since he was part of the group, "yay an insane kill" really? is that all it takes to convince you that someone isn't the EA, okay then YAY AN INSANE KILL (I'm off the hook now right?)
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On September 06 2011 11:16 Navillus wrote:
First off the statement that EA and scum are definitely among the lurkers is very questionable, obviously given a choice they would be but you can't suddenly realize that you can get away with lurking and become a lurker if you've been talking you won't suddenly stop and frankly I think most people lurk or don't based on personal play-style and IRL situation not a conscious choice half-way through the game ALSO I don't see how what kurumi said couldn't just be him trying to direct suspicion onto eiii and myself since he was part of the group, "yay an insane kill" really? is that all it takes to convince you that someone isn't the EA, okay then YAY AN INSANE KILL (I'm off the hook now right?)
You agree but disagree.
It's Kurumi's immediate leap to you and Eiii being EA and scum without regard to either of you being Psych coupled with his Yay comment that makes me believe he is blue not red.
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Day is almost over. Stop lurking.
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Still 24h left on the day.
Okay, Jackal, you say Navillus should be lynched, what do you back it up with? Day 1 voting is unsure, he jumped on Wiggles at the end, and appeared to genuinely want him lynched, the late voting doesn´t exclude a scum, but makes it less likely with tnkted as an alternative lynch. As far as I remember, the Psych was never asked to visit Navillus. Overall, that´s not a very strong case. Do you have any posts or evidence apart from this?
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Navillus wants to lynch active people and leave lurkers alone.
This isn't town agenda, You know that?
I know my alignment, I belive Jackal about his alignment, Forumite seems town.
Navillus was rarely active, his reasons are not townish (aka fake/bad/seem like policy lynches) and Eiii just "ignored" the game. I think scum will rather go full lurk mode in present situation and wait for things, while 3rd party will try to do everything to call suspicion somewhere else / distract town from themselves and give them more time for their objective.
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On September 06 2011 21:44 Forumite wrote:
Still 24h left on the day.
Okay, Jackal, you say Navillus should be lynched, what do you back it up with? Day 1 voting is unsure, he jumped on Wiggles at the end, and appeared to genuinely want him lynched, the late voting doesn´t exclude a scum, but makes it less likely with tnkted as an alternative lynch. As far as I remember, the Psych was never asked to visit Navillus. Overall, that´s not a very strong case. Do you have any posts or evidence apart from this?
Go reread his reaction to Jee Jee's lynch. He seemed to be very uncomfy with it. He has gone into lurk mode since. He calls my calling out of lurkers questionable while saying scum/EA will lurk if they have the chance. Of course they have the chance. They just stop posting.
And my bad on the time. I would have swore the day started on Sunday morning. 3 day weekend has screwed me up.
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With 6 players left, we need 4 votes to lynch today. Tomorrow, it´s 5 players, and we will still need 4 votes to lynch. We need to be, if not sure, then at least united, if we want to lynch. I had a town-read on Navillus for a long time, but I´ve been wrong before in this game. Navillus doesn´t want to lynch lurkers, but Erandorr is/was a lurker, and an unknown read because of it. Voteanalysis doesn´t help here much either.
Eiii, what do you think? Cyber, what´s your read on Navillus?
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United States2566 Posts
bleh
I really don't have a good scum or EA suspect at all. Navi's only questionable action recently was immediately jumping on the jeejee vote and then really questioning jackal hardcore about how he saw the crumb, trying to discredit him-- I mean, what does he expect jackal to say, 'I'm psyc/red/EA'? but he keeps pressing after jackal just says that he thinks it was written weird.
I feel that jackal and cyber aren't red, so I'm looking at navi, forumite, and kurumi. Forumite seems to be playing normally, and I can't find anything even remotely malicious in his posts. I'm going to go ahead and make the meta read that a scum wouldn't idle out of the game, either.
so, ##vote Navillus. I'm really not comfortable with how the game is atm, though I admittedly haven't been doing much to turn things around :/
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I don't have anything, I'm sooo busy right now and would give up for myself but I refuse to because it would hurt the town, I do see jackal's logic and that's why
Vote Eiii
I think he can be right without being 100% right and right about both of us, I also ask that you look through my posts before today and see what read you get from those finally
I probably won't be on again before the lynch but if I am it looks possible that we could end up 1 vote on me from a lynch (if not this doesn't matter) what I want to know is would you guys rather that I -knowing that I am green- lynch myself to gain information rather than have a no-lynch? At this point I really don't think we want a mislynch but with a no-lynch we could easily end up in the same spot tomorrow and if that really is what everyone thinks is best for town I will do it.
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On September 07 2011 07:55 Forumite wrote:
With 6 players left, we need 4 votes to lynch today. Tomorrow, it´s 5 players, and we will still need 4 votes to lynch. We need to be, if not sure, then at least united, if we want to lynch. I had a town-read on Navillus for a long time, but I´ve been wrong before in this game. Navillus doesn´t want to lynch lurkers, but Erandorr is/was a lurker, and an unknown read because of it. Voteanalysis doesn´t help here much either.
Eiii, what do you think? Cyber, what´s your read on Navillus?
I have Navillus pegged as a townie too, I really don't think he's EA at the moment.
I think Jackal is probably a townie, and out of the remaining three Forumite you are the most likely townie.
Eiii has been lurking much more hardcore than I'd like, and Erandorr/Kurumi isn't much better
I see more potential for Eiii to get lynched today, so I'm changing my vote off Kurumi for now.
On August 28 2011 08:28 Eiii wrote:
I don't like lynching jeejee for a supposed 'hey guys i'm scum lol' breadcrumb in one of his posts.
I DO like lynching him because he kept his vote on CC and was one of the few who forced a nolynch yesterday.
so let's do this ##vote JeeJee
Note that this was the fifth vote, he didn't vote wiggles the day before
All his votes follow this bandwagoning, and his filter is a single page with most of them more or less equating to fluff.
##Unvote
##Vote Eiii
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I think we´re heading for a no-lynch, but perhaps a no-lynch is better than a mislynch. I´ll be online most of the time before the lynch, but just so I don´t forget, I´m voting now. This feels like a very unsafe lynch. Possible EAs, because it´s hard to find EA-tells, but as for scum connections, neither are very strong, and neither are dropping very noticeable anti-Town-tells either, but of Eiii and Navillus, Navillus sound the most nervous when under pressure.
##Vote Navillus
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United States2566 Posts
Without a stronger-than-I-have-now argument for navi being scum, there isn't much I can do to deflect a lynch off me. I'd ask people to look at my votes-- I voted jeejee without hesitation, pointing out more scummy things he'd done, and pushed wiggles when it wasn't clear that he was going to be the day's lynch. Especially with only two scum left, I don't think it'd be anywhere close to a smart play for one red to secure the lynch of their only remaining buddy in that situation.
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On September 06 2011 22:42 Kurumi wrote:
Navillus wants to lynch active people and leave lurkers alone.
This isn't town agenda, You know that?
I know my alignment, I belive Jackal about his alignment, Forumite seems town.
Navillus was rarely active, his reasons are not townish (aka fake/bad/seem like policy lynches) and Eiii just "ignored" the game. I think scum will rather go full lurk mode in present situation and wait for things, while 3rd party will try to do everything to call suspicion somewhere else / distract town from themselves and give them more time for their objective.
Notice how the second half of his post describes the first half? Add to that he hasn't voted yet and it's awfully suspicious.
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