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On September 06 2011 12:59 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2011 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
Hey Jackal what do you think of Ace?
Sandroba you too, I'm curious. I think he is scum and his mysterious power is bullshit. I think he know he can't avoid the lynch and is voting himself because it doesn't matter or to try to confuse us later with an absurd claim. There is absolutely no reason to not have claimed w/e it is right now if he was indeed dead set on dieing.
Maybe this would be look better if you know, I was actually fighting the lynch. Cheers!
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On September 06 2011 13:13 wherebugsgo wrote:
Ace why exactly haven't you straight up role claimed yet?
Not like you shat all over redFF and sinani for doing exactly what you're doing right now, you know...
you'll see why
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Just running through the scenario even in the case of redFF and Sinani being town, sandroba being Scum jumps out.
What was all of that about sandroba being role blocked confirming him as Town again?
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every time I read those pages with redFF's claims more questions keep popping up. He knew he was for certain he was in danger of dying. He also knew his "check" was wasted, after deducing that Sinani had to be the coroner by some real faulty logic or by chance. He "saved" a check for Sinani, said Varpulis was Town but still didn't reveal the role.
Then when I started asking about Varpulis's role, things got sketchy. Maybe Scum thought I was the Coroner and got shook.
Either way I'm holding some people to a higher standard here. I know there are a couple of jubjubs here so they'd believe anything. But some of you bought the role claim too quickly. There are a lot of holes in it and any self respecting decent Town player should have at least questioned how redFF's role got the PM from the mod confirming Sinani as Coroner, when Sinani said his role functions exactly as stated in the OP. Surely SOMEBODY had to note the big hole here?
If this is true maybe the game is just hella Town favored and Mafia have no shot at winning anyway. Oh well.
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heh, and it makes sense if redFF is Scum along with Sinani.
Scum wouldn't reanimate him anyway since he'd be a zombie and die 3 days later. So they get the High Priest to rez Sinani and go a long their merry way. Necro rez on someone else.
Varpulis and ON could both be Town. Mafia KP dropped because redFF got lynched. Sinani of course claims to have checked ON and flipped Inhibitor. Inhibitor, the role that allegedly blocked sandroba twice, even though I think most mods by now dont allow that to happen. So now the role blocking power is gone. sandroba's alibi lives, Sinani lives via ON being "confirmed" Scum.
Why didn't this scenario play out for any of you?
When I pull my little stunt, if ON is Scum the Necromancer has to revive him. There is no way they'd leave their inhibitor dead. If ON is not revived you should seriously question what happened with that Day 2 lynch.
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I'm outlining stuff so people know where I'm coming from. There's just too much coincidence and quick faith going on here for a No Flip game with missing roles in the OP. There should have been a lot more talk about redFF's claim and the possibility of ON being Town as soon as the KPs went through. Maybe I expect too much of people though.
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good point. Now how did the lynch on ON come about?
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On September 07 2011 04:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I'm going to be leaving for practice very very shortly. I should be back about an hour before day ends. If you want my vote switched off of Ace, I need to be told and given good reason. I want to hear from Ace. If you really want to be lynched and use your "zomg game ending power", then my vote won't move.
keep the vote on me.
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On September 07 2011 04:18 sandroba wrote:
bum is mafia, the other mafia is open for discussion. There is no 4th mafia ffs.
iGrok basically edited his post after he read what I said. Do you really think he forgot for a second he put Jackal's role in the game? Also why did the minion shoot jackal and why did he get informed that he would ressurect the following day when the op states no player get's informed??
The OP didn't state all that stuff about redFF getting information about Sinani being his master. So jackal's claim is just as legit. Stop it.
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Replace Jackal's name with redFF. Whats the difference?
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where did jackal claim he blocked a role block?
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I did, he didn't say anything about role blocks as far as I saw. He said he can block someone from visiting the person he protects.
Seems standard and believable to me.
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Actually I did miss that one (weird since I searched for the phrase "block") but whatever. This basically comes down to Jackal's interpretation of his PM or a mod mistake. I'm just going to ignore it for now.
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thank god. I had one final Ace up my sleeve, as I was about to let the HP get a free revival once I figured out how the last NK stacked up.
I still can't believe redFF role claimed that badly. Sorry Sinani but I wasn't buying that the Town got that many OP roles.
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On September 09 2011 09:39 redFF wrote:Meh I don't think my claim was that bad considering it helped find 2 of the mafia on the shitty wagon on me. Ace I understand what you were doing, but your reads were way off though this game 
Yes because between you and sinani there was just too much "too good to be true" about the way your roles worked - why wouldn't I read into that as something fishy? Remember Sinani claimed that you got PM that told you he is the coroner, while you claimed to not have checked Sinani.
Now why would I think this is true when that would be just too broken for the Town to have. Add in your shoddy role claim and not revealing Varp's role (the biggest problem with your RC) and I was suspect from the start.
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I think that was me. I've played in setups with backups and while they are sometimes a "must", they aren't as powerful as Sinani/red made them out to be. Literally if the roles worked the way they said the Mafia would have 0 shot at winning the game as killing the Coroner actually sets them back. That's a bit absurd.
I was laughing at WBG all the time cuz I was like "please, continue this. I need to die'. Then WBG was like "wait, lets not lynch Ace" and I was like noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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