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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 05 2011 00:11 GMT
#619
I'm alive :D Good another day with you guys and perhaps maybe someone will listen to me this time. Now that I've claimed, I'm assuming you want me to check my list?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 05 2011 00:59 GMT
#682
##Vote sandroba

I've already explained my side, and all sandroba has to show I'm scum is a pluralized verb. The fact that iGrok has to come out with the post above mine is credit to people playing extremely poorly this game. After you read the OP read the thread.

I checked my list. It had 3 votes. Sandroba is lying.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 05 2011 01:03 GMT
#688
Jackal is doing the exact same thing as redff, with a half claim. He's blue, he should claim completely. Also, anyone think it's possible there can be 4 scum? There seems to be a lot of powers floating around. Though no dayvig I guess.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 05 2011 22:30 GMT
#755
On September 06 2011 05:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
There are a lot of people in this game that I have never played with. I have experience playing this game. It has been about 6 months since I've played though, and this is the first game of no-flip I have ever played. To this date, there is not a game of forum mafia that I have never been town.

I know I have played poorly this game. I know that if you guys really want to lynch me, you can, and that's fine. But I promise you that you will be wasting a lynch.

Ace being village idiot makes sense, but do village idiots usually exist in a game this small?

Kenpachu being scum wouldn't surprise me, but if he is, its stupid. Lurkers suck. If he turns out to be scum, then the next time he lurks like this and we think he's scum, but he's town, he'll whine about it. What's the point of lurking? So that you can be like "OH LOOK MY TEAM WON" even though you haven't participated to help the win at all? Nobody likes people like that.


This is generally what he does, that's why I always jump on him day 1 because generally he won't be helpful. But apparently voting useless people is trying to hide you're vote.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 05 2011 22:46 GMT
#757
On September 05 2011 10:25 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 05 2011 10:05 sandroba wrote:
On September 05 2011 09:49 Ace wrote:
so somehow the Coroner role when divided ends up with a grand total of just 2 checks. Lol wow what bullshit.


From the OP: "Not all role descriptions are complete." Don't you thinking by now the real coroner would have counter claimed? Also look at the list of players. If you think the scum team consists of redFF and sinani I don't know what to say. Also if the team is me/redFF/sinani why wouldn't we save redFF from the lynch by blocking one of his voters? What about bum's ridiculous claim have you nothing to say about that?

If you argue the inhibitor is not present thus he could not be saved and the lynch results were because of pious I ask you to look at the suposedly townie roles because that would make at least 1 priest 1 medic 1 ridic lawyer claim and very likely a coroner since it's no flip. No roleblocker in this setup? I've been roleblocked twice and you are voting for me without any analysis or reasoning. There is simply no way you are town.


I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is".

Cool then vote for Ace. I didn't bring up colors as an argument of why he is scum, that was someone else. Check my posting history (and his) to see why bum is scum. Do you think redFF and sinani are both lying?


Yes.

How do you explain the kp discrepancy from day1 to day2 then?


I think this is very big WIFOM. We can assume scum can opt not to shoot a bullet or hit someone twice. Completely disregarding that possibility confirms to me that you have something to hide.

How is it possible that we got off 3 ressurections? Do you supose mafia would res sinani and priest res drazerk both knowing the other would probably target the same one most likely?


It is likely that the actual priest ressed sinani. You have thrown away countless explanations to push your agenda. Please stop.

If you believe their claims that means 100% presence of a roleblocker despite my claim. You can also see that both bum and ON voted redFF last day, so if redFF was mafia roleblocker would totaly save him. Thus by the fact that kp got reduced it means we killed a mafia and by the fact that inhibitor opted to rb me means there were 2 mafia up for lynch, so they had to choose only one to save.


Explain this, there was 3 votes on me, I don't see how this confirms a roleblocker in the game. ON had 4 people, I had 3 people and redff had three people. There is no roleblocker, so do not use it in your explanations on how you sinani and redff aren't scum. 1 shot was used I'm convinced. Don't even try to say that you as mafia would not resort to this so you can ride yourself to victory because town will buy whatever claim that comes out of your mouth.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 01:35 GMT
#781
Mafia can withhold KP. You can't just say "BUT WHY NOT ALWAYS SHOOT". This is a perfectly reasonable action from the scum team at this point. 4 players in an all vanilla game might be unfair in a 15 person set-up, but it seems perfectly obvious that this can be balanced out in this set-up. Instead of lynching people based on what you assume the set-up is, how about lynching people who flat out lie?

And my role is green, I'm guessing similar to pious man. I die to minion hits, and I am not a blue. I am not regarded as a power role afaik.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 01:39 GMT
#784
On September 06 2011 10:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 10:18 Ace wrote:
On September 06 2011 09:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 06 2011 08:58 Ace wrote:
See, you guys dont even read the thread. Ok smart guy, tell me this:

When did the Town confirm Sinani as town, and how did we do it?

Show me. Outline it. I dare you.




Assuming mafia had 3 members to start with, then Mafia kp was 2. 3 people died that night. That is mafia kp + minion shot. sinani was lynched. If sinani was scum, then this would have reduced mafia kp to 1 before the mafia kills went out.


On September 06 2011 05:03 iGrok wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:56 iGrok wrote:
On September 06 2011 04:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 04 2011 15:48 iGrok wrote:
On September 04 2011 13:41 wherebugsgo wrote:
Good god why are we wasting more time speculating about this shit?

If we lynch mafia during the day, for example from 3 mafia to 2 mafia, does it reduce their KP that same day? e.g. would we see 1 mafia kill instead of 2?

Yes.
Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects.


Initially I thought that, if we lynched both mafia then the res would still go through but I guess I'm unsure here because "other effects" is after lynches. Thus, if we lynch a necro he can't res, I think.

If we lynch the necromancer does his resurrect go through or is it nullified?

(sorry for all the questions iGrok haha. We love you :D )

I never said there was a necromancer in this game.
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WIFOM OOOOH


Oh you BITCH :p

working on the assumption that there is, what would happen? Replace "necromancer" with "resurrector" if you wish, I don't give a shit

Also if he refuses to answer I say we lynch iGrok


Order is Blocking Effects, Lynches, Killing effects, Other effects.

Lynch me if you dare!


Sinani is town. I showed you. I outlined it for you.


What happens if there is 4 Scum

What happens if I start farting rainbows? You berated people for looking for things outside of the OP and creating scenarios to fit their imaginings.
And now you're creating what if scenarios?
Ya you're scum.


Typical jackal, as someone who just claimed something that is not in the OP, don't you think berating Ace for something that you are is a bit hypocritical?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 01:41 GMT
#787
my game ending role


Wow this is the first I've heard of this. Mind sharing Ace?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 01:44 GMT
#791
Ace you can't convince sandroba because I guarentee you he is scum this game. He will just keep using his roleblocked excuse to incriminate me, and then because ON agrees with me, well then ON is mafia too.

Mafia has no roleblocker, they could not save redff. You just have to push that that is not the sace because you are scum. 4 scum and no blocker would not surprise me in the slightest.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 01:53 GMT
#798
On September 06 2011 10:47 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 10:41 bumatlarge wrote:
my game ending role


Wow this is the first I've heard of this. Mind sharing Ace?


I actually typed it out, but I restrained just in case there really is some Mafia role out there that can do something insane.


Also, would double high priests break the set-up? I'm thinking it's completely plausible with what we are seeing so far, since we haven't seen an unlynchable claim or shoot, and there is only one coroner. Losing an HP would really rough up town, and the likelihood of them overlapping is huge.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 01:55 GMT
#799
How about 3 mafia member and a traitor? Traitor counts towards kp. Oh look another explanation. How about no necromancer, 4 mafia and 2 HPs. Oh look another explanation.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 02:08 GMT
#813
On September 06 2011 10:57 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 10:43 Ace wrote:
On September 06 2011 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On September 06 2011 10:38 Ace wrote:

you seem like a huge advocate for balanced games and get really pissed when set ups venture off the norm. So I'm going to put a little bit of faith in you and ask you: How often do you see no-flip games with 15 people have more than 3 scum? Because sandroba's explanation (which makes sense to me) seems to suggest otherwise.


I only get pissed when setups venture off the norm without trying to balance both sides. Which happens a lot because most hosts dont do What If scenarios. But whatever.

No flip games with 15 people having more than 3 Scum:

A.) 15 player Normals often dont have more than 3 Scum anyway.

B.) Reading through the OP there is a possibility for more than 3 Scum because of revival roles for the Town. If the Coroner can confirm players as pro-town then even being revived for 1 Day is a major advantage for the Town. It's essentially a temporary Tree Stump. That being said having more than 3 Scum so that the Town doesn't run wild is likely.

C.) redFF, sinani, myself, bumatlarge, jackal - all claimed roles. I know I'm town, and even assuming sinani and redFF are Town, bum being Scum, and Jackal being Town then there has to be some kind of revival role left out there. 2 Coroners, my game ending role, Jackal's alleged role:

Thats a lot of power on the Town side. Either the Mafia would have 3 players with brutal roles or more than 3. If we accept that the inhibitor was 1 of them then that leaves 2 Mafia power roles.

They'd pretty much have to have the necromancer or some revival roles or else as I said above - this game would end quickly.

Which means the last power role has to be something awesome if there are 3 Mafia. A 1 shot sure-fire kill is great, but doesn't scream monstrous to me. I'm not buying the there has to be 3 Mafia argument yet.


If you have such a kickass role that activates when you die, why the fuck are you so scared of getting lynched?



Really? Show me where I have been scared of getting lynched. Come on read the thread - have I REALLY been trying hard not to get lynched?

lol what a scrub


Really simple: Look at Ace's behaviour and activity day 1 and 2 when he was not up for a lynch. His first big post of the game was when ON and bum (his scum buddies) were up for lynching. Now that he is up for a lynch holy shit HUGE spike in activity and arguing his little heart out. How come you were so uninterested in the game before ace? If you are town (lol) and have this game ending ability you can go ahead and kill me with it (or do w/e you will make up later when things look dire).


Known good players sometimes lurk early in the game. It's fairly strong for town when vet does this. He never gets lynched, mafia often opt not to shoot them and they can often come at a time when mafia seems to have a decent stance in the game. Connecting the timing to your two wagons is a scum-based appoach. Everything you have done has been with an intent of making certain individuals out to be scum.

A townie doesn't read the thread looking to see if they can make something out to be scummy, they read the thread looking to see if something is actually scummy. You have clearly gone out of your way on whatever I have done to make me appear scummy. You know I won't just flip town and have a bunch of townies focusing on what you were doing. Anyone who filters your posts can see this.


On September 05 2011 09:43 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 08:59 bumatlarge wrote:
I am a Astute Lawyer. I can see how many votes were casted for an individual in the previous lynch. I checked sinani's list and saw 4 votes casted. That's why I think sandroba's claims are bullshit about being roleblocked, since there was a obviously a pious man on sinani's list. The only player alive on that list is jcarl, and by his actions where he was very suspicious of sandroba, I'm thinking he has to be the pious man. Sorry to betray you jcarl, but hopefully you survive the night and vote sandroba, because I guarantee you that you are right about his RB claim being fake.


What the shit HUGE scum slip here. I had not claimed my second roleblock yet, but somehow my rb claims are plural. lol nice


You were way to obvious with this post.You know I know you're lying about the roleblocks, so you have to get rid of me. Understandable scum.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 04:18 GMT
#872
I, for one, am excited.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
September 06 2011 07:35 GMT
#875
On September 06 2011 15:12 Ace wrote:
Just running through the scenario even in the case of redFF and Sinani being town, sandroba being Scum jumps out.

What was all of that about sandroba being role blocked confirming him as Town again?


He claimed roleblock so he must be town. There is no way in this closed set-up that could possibly explain a lynch result contrary to what we counted on our fingers from votes.
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