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About mechanics (I'm actually suspicious of Sandroba for not posting this).
We should only resurrect people who we're almost certain are town. We should never resurrect lynched people. The high priest should use his power sparingly, I asked if mafia could shoot mafia because if not we'd get instantly confirmed townies by ressing the NK'd people, but mafia can, even if it's unlikely, shoot their own and have us res them for town cred.
We should always instantly lynch anyone that gets resurrected without good reason. In fact, we should only resurrect people who we agree on, I suggest majority voting for ressing people.
I think it may be beneficial not to use the high priest power, because even town-aligned reanimated zombies count towards mafia KP. So if we just agree to resurrect no one, we're basically gimping the mafia team of their greatest power.
Need to think on it.
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Oh, and here's a new rule:
Defending players with good arguments will not be considered scummy in this game.
So if anyone feels like my reads are off, I want to hear why, there's no such thing as being autoscum for defending people, it's only how and why you do it that can be analysed.
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feeling less sure about bum...
feeling more suspicious of sinani.
I need to re-read more.
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Varpulis should die, I agree.
But we need 2 lynches, I'm re-reading bum's, sinani's posts right now
I don't agree with lynching jcarl or ace at the moment.
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jcarl because I don't think he's scum, and Ace because he's completely a null-read at the moment.
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My vote is staying on Bum I think, I already laid out the reasons, and after re-reading sinani's posts, I think he's just playing his usual super-scummy townie play.
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On September 03 2011 06:08 sandroba wrote:
Igrok, can we please get a vote count?
We have to consolidate the votes now, so mafia can't lynch whoever they want.
I'm not sure we will get a vote-count, because of things like vote-block and pious thing.
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On September 03 2011 04:12 Ace wrote:
stop giving reads on every player in the game. It's fucking useless.
Hi, it's less useless than you.
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he voted for chaos13: I'll just say this now, I can't conclude chaos13's alignment. Like, I think he's town but someone else needs to pick up the slack. I simply can't know his alignment because his play is illogical.
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I fully support everyone doing whatever sandroba tells them to do atm.
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don't know if redFF is being accidentally or maliciously bad.
need to decide.
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let's just lynch jackal, ace and bum
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oh lol, jackal is deadest.
let's kill ace and bum, gogo
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Btw, Ace, if you post like whatever you think and know about the game right now, and if you happen to be town, we can probably piece the rest of this together.
I think WGB/Sandroba/redFF/Myself/jcarl are town
I think Kenpachi/Ace/chaos13 are null reads
I think ON/Bum are scum
Thing is, ON/Bum both pressured Kenpachi yesterday, which reduces the chances of him being scum, so if I'm correct it's down to Ace or chaos for scum.
Let's do it.
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yeah, chaos13 is the remaining scum.
gogo
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On September 04 2011 00:55 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 00:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 04 2011 00:22 Ace wrote:
impossible. If sinani is scum then their KP wouldn't be reduced the same night because that would be bad modding or a totally different mechanic we aren't aware of. Scum don't lose KP on a night one of their members die, it always goes into effect for the next night. I would want confirmation on this from iGrok. Cuuuuuuz that's stupid. If we killed a scum, that sucks for them, but we killed a scum. The rules say mafia kp is n/2. If we lynch a scum, that reduces scum numbers. o wait I forgot sinani died by lynch, not night kill. Nevermind.
At which point are you going to enlighten us with some of your reads? you voted chaos13 last night, and based on chaos's latest post I think it's not a bad read.
It's pretty frustrating having to fish information out of people, but really, you are the last huge unknown factor in this game.
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On September 05 2011 00:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
A noob mafia :D
Neener neener ace whatcha gonna do when we come for youuuu
BTW where is Palmar? Palmar when you read this I want your opinions on ON/bum/Ace. I know you think chaos is mafia but judging from the way chaos posts large analyses (that ultimately are usually cherrypicked/wrong, from the analysis I've seen him put up in XLIV, here, and in cosmic) he's probably town.
pretty busy today, can write up stuff tomorrow.
two games in a row I have concluded that chaos13's reads cannot possibly be this bad, and thus he must be mafia, but two games in a row he has proven me wrong, once again I'm basing my read on him on the fact that I just don't agree with his reads.
Ace hasn't written anything, thus his alignment can't be determined yet. I think he's just being an asshole and not scum, but with so little to go on, the error margin is big.
Bum/On are my two primary targets for lynching today, only problem is that this setup sucks, so if we stick 4 on one, and 3 on the other, the mafia can stick 3 on the third and voteblock one of the three voting for bum/on, and thus guarantee a town kill, then they just reanimate someone as zombie and kill two more townies.
I haven't really done the math, but I can't see a way to actually win this thing.
I'm fine with lynching bum and on, let's do it. I'd be fine with day-vigging one of them and lynching chaos or ace.
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we should just make a list and have the dayvig shoot whoever doesn't comply with what's on the list.
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