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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 01:22 GMT
#484
On September 04 2011 09:31 redFF wrote:
i assume coroner has more checks than me, but can probably also use two a day.


:/


Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm).


The OP explicitly says A corpse per day. Your claim isn't looking believable.


On September 04 2011 09:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 09:31 Ace wrote:
I can't take your claim seriously. The real Coroner would not Counter Claim in this situation because it's not LYLO so it would be dumb. A Real Cop doesn't CC Scum claiming Cop unless the Town is seriously buying it and will lynch a Townie. No one is getting lynched over your claim so the Coroner has no reason to Counter Claim. Or he's dead.


The circular reasoning this creates should suggest to you that we should keep this guy alive for now.

Bum and ON are definitely more scummy. Bum avoided lynch, has not really contributed anything, and sandroba claimed RB (when he was one of the players who voted bum).

ON threw his vote on Kenpachi and then purposely left it there while he was STILL AROUND at the end of the day. Now again he's still pursuing Kenpachi when it's clear he's definitely not going to get lynched today.

There's too much weird shit going on with red thanks to his shitty play that I'd rather leave him alive at least till tomorrow. With ON and Bum hopefully out of action tomorrow we can lynch red and someone else.


There is no circular reasoning here - this is pretty simple to follow. Try and keep up.

redFF checks Sinani and Varp and by his own admission:

On September 04 2011 09:37 redFF wrote:
and yes ace that was the original intention to see they were scum because i figured just checking the nightkilled players would be less useful then checking the lynches.


He checked to see if they were Scum but found them to be Town. If he outs them as being Town then he'd also have no problem checking the 3 Night Killed people.

HOWEVER, he is the BACKUP coroner right? That means he is the last one. Why the hell would he out himself just for Sinani when he just saw 3 people get Night Killed. He'll die by Day 3 and the Town will have no Coroners left. The game is essentially over at that point.

Think about this for more than 5 seconds.

As for your bolded that doesn't even make any sense. Bum avoiding a lynch doesn't make him Scummy, and it has no relation to sandroba's alleged role block. Even if sandroba voted for Bum, assuming bum is Scum why would that give him cause to RB sandroba? That doesn't add up at all. Faulty logic there.

Your second point also makes no sense. Most votes wins, not majority. ON leaving his vote anywhere when there are low vote counts to die and a role that has double voting power means this tells you nothing unless Kenpachi dies by low vote count.

If red is playing like shit (very high possibility) and weird stuff is going on it makes sense to lynch him. An unconfirmed claim that is an automatic game over if he dies? Why are you even thinking about bum and ON?



you yourself said that they probably wouldnt be a backup coroner, so if coroner died you know they would stay silent and sinani would probably be resurrected. Did you take a dead coroner into account when you made your post?


Yes, and even if I didn't why would it matter? If the Coroner dies and never says anything then we just take the chance and revive Sinani.

You still can't explain why a backup role thats pretty important to the Town in a no flip game would out himself on Day 2, knowing the original role died and saw 3 people get NK'd the previous night. Add in that there is nothing in the OP that says we have protective roles. Your claim also can't be confirmed, and you brought up some bullshit scenario about Counter Claiming that took 3 seconds of brain power to dismiss.

Every scenario I look at your claim comes off as a high risk, low reward play. Even worse your insistence on reviving Sinani OVER Varpulis, if they are both indeed Town tells me, and any Mafia with half a brain that killing you and Sinani at tonight ends the game for the Town.

You can't be THIS stupid. You are lying.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 01:26 GMT
#486
On September 04 2011 09:42 redFF wrote:
you only get lynched as town if your bad, not your attacker's fault you played scummy. meh ima go now, i've said everything ive needed to say.



You deserve a refund for whoever sold you that. Town players get lynched for all kinds of reasons and some of the time it isn't their fault.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 01:28 GMT
#487
On September 04 2011 10:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
BOOM.

Now I think Ace needs to come back and switch his vote off redFF.

Ace come in and weigh in on this revelation we have here!


doesn't change anything. iGrok hasn't confirmed or denied anything about redFF's role.

It still doesn't help explain why a backup role would out himself. No one can play this badly. I'm not buying it and my vote is staying where it is. Go talk to someone else because your wasting my time.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 01:39 GMT
#492
I'm not sure, and I honestly don't even care.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 01:45 GMT
#493
By the way, look at the setup carefully. Mafia fake claiming Coroner is a very strong move that always ends in a gain for the Scum. There is no risk for them in claiming Coroner. If I was on the Scum team I would have done it myself.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 01:59 GMT
#496
I'm not looking at one person is scum in relation to another for 2 reasons:

1.) no flips on death
2.) people do ridiculous things anyway

Look at it this way:

On death no one flips roles or alignment.

When a player is revived from what we know, they dont flip then either.

So the Mafia has every incentive to claim Coroner. The real Coroner can not counter claim them. Even if the Mafia Coroner got killed, the real Coroner dies by NK and no one would ever know the difference.

The Mafia Coroner already knows who is Town and who is not. The only thing that separates him from the actual Coroner is the ability to find out a Role.

But then the Mafia Coroner can just hide behind the fact that he doesn't want to reveal any roles to the Mafia.

I dont know if the Scum are this smart, but if they are and banned redFF from the QT I could see them coming up with this idea.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 02:29 GMT
#501
There is no point talking about bum or ON when we have a situation that is more substantial. Bum or ON could be scum, but at this point it's more likely redFF is scum. Stop dealing with shit that holds no weight at the moment.

igrok didn't confirm or deny anything because it would be silly. It's in the fucking OP



Coroner
Can look at a corpse and determine alignment and role. May be used any time, and will instantly return the information (as soon as I get the pm).


He said some roles are INCOMPLETE. Not that they act differently from whats stated in the OP. The Coroner role states it can check A corpse, not 2. This isn't an incomplete role description. Having 2 checks while stating it has 1 is bastard modding.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 12:28 GMT
#527
*chuckles*

That was cute. But your still terrible.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 12:35 GMT
#530
what am I defending myself against? Lets be serious here. I'm not going to argue with you when redFF is on the ropes. I'm not going to talk about bum or ON because I dont think they are important right now. My vote is where it is and I've given lots of reasons why. You came to some spotty conclusions but can't give reasons why.

How about you go ahead and give a "long winded analysis" of why I'm Scum. Go for it so I can pick it apart like and eat your face like I do to all Scum everywhere.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 12:54 GMT
#533
why would a coroner counter claim when no one will know if he was telling the truth when he dies - no one can check the body.

derp?

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 22:20 GMT
#596
so I'm scum because I pointed out the inconsistencies in redFF's claims? Another fucking moron.

iGrok can we skip all the bullshit and use my role now? I don't feel like waiting.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 22:44 GMT
#599
You're reading too much into that. Stop it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 22:53 GMT
#600
bum, before you die can you give me your bat rope? I may need to hang myself.

By the way you should claim if you're already gonna die. That way if you get rezzed you can do some damage on the way back from hell.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 04 2011 23:23 GMT
#603
I play with the information I know, not like you idiots that still suck at this game.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 05 2011 00:28 GMT
#626
On September 05 2011 09:11 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm alive :D Good another day with you guys and perhaps maybe someone will listen to me this time. Now that I've claimed, I'm assuming you want me to check my list?


I'm with you bro, lets take out sandroba.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 05 2011 00:28 GMT
#627
[b]##vote sandroba
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 05 2011 00:28 GMT
#628
[/b]
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 05 2011 00:37 GMT
#637
lmao. Ok when I die, check my body and tell me my role if you're the coroner ok? Go ahead and lynch me.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 05 2011 00:38 GMT
#640
oh noes Batman! What shall we do!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 05 2011 00:42 GMT
#650
convenient isn't it. All the checks are gone, but the Coroners "confirmed" who is Scum/Town and not one of them ever mentioned the checks were split between players before.

Dont you think that kinda is important in redFF's role description? lol
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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