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On August 18 2011 08:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 08:51 TheCrimsonReaper wrote:
So, now its to "clear" someone, funny, I thought you promised us a better lynch if the person in the white house claimed.
I can be reasoned with, but you have yet to provide any reasons other than "I am Palmar, the greenest townie to ever live! No, I have no proof, I don't need it, I'm motherfucking Palmar!"
Had you gotten scum lynched I might see it, all I see right now is a stupid, anti-town obsession with getting claims so you can coordinate your kills better, or better yet get some overpowered skill to rape the town with.
I'm not going to allow it. If you're town, you're terrible. But I don't think we actually have to worry about that ##Unvote
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hahahahahahaha
If it wasn't obvious you were desperate scum earlier, it is now.
You are seriously choosing to lynch me over ON who according to you "mistook" his house, and heist who also according to you and bum, knew there were three mafia?
Please folks, don't let the fact that he has learned how to say "I'm town" fool you. This man is flipfloping mafia who is on tilt because I called him out on it.
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On August 18 2011 08:58 Palmar wrote:
heist is not mafia.
Funny, that's not what you were saying earlier.
But then again, I don't expect scum to keep their stories straight anyway.
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Oh lord, I can't even decipher this...
Let's make it simple. Palmar, until ON flips I'm not giving you squat, nor am I trusting anything you say. You're too free-handed with the accusations and you're overall being very disruptive.
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TheCrimsonReaper, Palmar, OriginalName scumteam.
We won!
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Guys, because you love throwing doubt on townies.
Explain to me: What does ON's flip have to do with me?
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Palmar, here's my response to your PM. I'm putting it here in the interest of public knowledge.
The one issue I have is, what if you are scum? Obviously, you know your role, but all I have to go on is what you say in thread, in a game where the team I'm up against gains huge benefits from all the information they can grab.
Look at it from my perspective. I know certain things about my role that nobody else does. The instant I disclose my house information, it becomes something the mafia can hit me for. They can't say "hit brownbear" but they can say "hit the puce house" or something (note: i'm not actually in a puce house  )
Also, look at the clues. One of them may or may not point to me (if one does, I just don't realize it yet). If later clues make it clear that the Tanzanian lives in the puce house, and the Tanzanian is linked to a power role, then I'm fucked.
(again, I may or may not be a power role, I'm not telling you, just using it for the sake of argument).
You may say "but you claim privately to me" but again, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TELLING THE TRUTH. The ON lynch goes a long way towards proving you're scum to me, because in a game this small bussing is a very risky tactic, so if ON is actually scum, you're leaving yourself either all by yourself or with only 1 teammate left - not a situation mafia wants to be in. Ofc, you could be out-WIFOMing me, but I'd be more willing to trust what you say. Again, all you've proved to me so far is that you're loud and you like being the center of attention.
I'm inclining towards you just being a loud townie, but until you can provide comprehensive proof besides "I LIVE IN A RED HOUSE THIS MAKES ME NOT SCUM" then I don't trust you fully.
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I moved in with Palmar and am now in the red house, direct any comments or night hits you may have to him please.
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you did not explain how ON's flip links to my alignment?
Curu, please stop trolling, you're doing it every game now.
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I'm voting TCR for pushing palmar saying that ON flip basically damns/confirms him when it really doesnt do anything TBH its possible ON was confused people mess up stuipid shit sometimes. it could also be a slip but you seem to be really anti palmar when i think the best way we can win this is we need to share information at some point
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##vote TheCrimsonReaper
I'm a cop, Palmar's clean. If everybody could please claim to him it would be mighty helpful. TCR's reluctance to claim and attempt to undermine Palmar by calling him scum follows a scum agenda, much more so than, for example, BrownBear's argument, which is a perfect example of a cautious townie trying to make sure that he doesn't claim to mafia.
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On August 18 2011 09:30 Sevryn wrote:
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I'm voting TCR for pushing palmar saying that ON flip basically damns/confirms him when it really doesnt do anything TBH its possible ON was confused people mess up stuipid shit sometimes. it could also be a slip but you seem to be really anti palmar when i think the best way we can win this is we need to share information at some point
I agree, we *do* need to share information at some point. But not right now, privately, to an unconfirmed person, eventually we'll form circles of trust. But we haven't even lynched anyone yet, the guy who got nked wasn't even connected to anyone. You seriously expect me to trust or let anyone trust palmar before anything has been confirmed.
And ON *does* confirm Palmar, if ON flips red Palmar is cleared, if he flips green, well then we don't know anything about Palmar's alignment and should hold off on claiming to him. Fact is Palmar isn't even close to confirmed yet, but people are worshiping his feet as if it were day 3 and he'd taken 3 mafia hits as well as lynching red every day.
For those too dense to see it, what proof do you have palmar is town? All I've seen him do is flip flop like hell and throw suspicion around, with absolutely no data that proves he is town. Unless a DT checked him or something, I refuse to claim to an unconfirmed person.
Bandwagon harder Sevryen, this is what, the third bandwagon you've subscribed to?
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On August 18 2011 09:38 Varpulis wrote:
##vote TheCrimsonReaper
I'm a cop, Palmar's clean. If everybody could please claim to him it would be mighty helpful. TCR's reluctance to claim and attempt to undermine Palmar by calling him scum follows a scum agenda, much more so than, for example, BrownBear's argument, which is a perfect example of a cautious townie trying to make sure that he doesn't claim to mafia.
And you didn't say this earlier why?
I'll claim to him now.
This was all I needed, god.
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there is only on E in my name good sir
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On August 18 2011 09:40 Palmar wrote:
am I confirmed now TCR?
close enough.
Check your PMs
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lol, no one still has the balls to claim white!
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On August 18 2011 09:28 Palmar wrote:
you did not explain how ON's flip links to my alignment?
Curu, please stop trolling, you're doing it every game now.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE TELLING THE TRUTH. The ON lynch goes a long way towards proving you're scum to me, because in a game this small bussing is a very risky tactic, so if ON is actually scum, you're leaving yourself either all by yourself or with only 1 teammate left - not a situation mafia wants to be in. Ofc, you could be out-WIFOMing me, but I'd be more willing to trust what you say. Again, all you've proved to me so far is that you're loud and you like being the center of attention.
I thought that explained my reasoning of how ON's flip will help me understand your alignment better. I never said prove/disprove.
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