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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 05:37 GMT
#1585
.......................................................................... Really that's what you got out of that?

My point had nothing to do with BB's alignment. My point was that there is NO connection between me and BB or ANYONE else. No one tried to divert the lynch away from me that is bullshit. Do you not see the holes in foolishness' plan where he links me to someone he thinks is scummy to make me appear even scummier? Why is he linking me just to BB and not to these other people.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 05:41 GMT
#1586
You are doing the exact same thing as foolish. Because you think BB is scummy you are randomly linking the 2 of us together to make me appear worse.

Foolish tried to argue that mafia are the ones who diverted the lynch from me to xtfft. You just said you think the first 4 people who voted for him were all town! How do you not see the flaws in the plan then????

Who exactly was diverting the lynch that is what I want to know.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 05:45 GMT
#1587
Go back and read the events of day2. The bandwagon gets started on me. Nobody defends me whatsoever and I have the most votes until I show up and defend myself. So foolish reponds with oh nobody defended you because they were just gonna divert the lynch instead.

So my argument then is who tried to save me by diverting the lynch?!? Who? Nobody fucking did. He is seeing connections where there are none. Nobody tried to defend me and nobody tried to push the lynch off of me because I am town.

Chaos13 is also scum.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 06:41 GMT
#1589
Wow so you just ignored every single one of my main points. Incredible.

Ok let me take a different approach WBG do you agree that on day2 mafia tried to divert the lynch off of me onto xtffc. If so how did they do it and who did it?

You and foolish are randomly taking BBs vote and connecting it to me. I am saying look at all the other votes on xtffc, why is BBs the only one that connects to me? If mafia were really trying to divert the lynch then who else did it? If you don't think any of the first 4 people who voted xtffc were scum then how can you possibly think mafia tried to divert the lynch away from me.

And what suspicious remark did I make about him? What are you even talking about?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 06:43 GMT
#1590
And you thought I was scummy eh? Can you please provide some in game evidence of my scummy actions? At this point I find it hard to believe that any of you have even gone back and read my posts.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 08:14 GMT
#1594
I think chaoser is still hella scummy. What has he contributed at all to the town? He pops in says 2 lines about how I am scum and disappears. He hasn't commented on a single thing I have done for the past 2 days just continues to vote for me for no reason. Along with that has chaoser given his opinion on a single other person playing?

But that being said I still think chaos13 is a better lynch.

I agree he seems slightly more aggressive this game but most of that aggression only came after palmar/jackal had called him out. Before that he was pretty inactive, he would just pop in write a post then disappear. He has barely commented on any of the main lynches that have gone on. And normally chaos is a very logical player. But look at how wrong all of his reasoning has been this game. And I mean would town chaos really freak out and immediately omgus jackal/palmar/myself for voting him? It seemed like a panicked overreaction when normally as town chaos is very level headed.

If that weren't enough look at palmar's very good analysis of him here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=254174&currentpage=66#1311

One last thing. Why did jackal die last night? Was anyone else getting blue vibes from him? I wasn't. Had he been especially active or provided any strong analysis? No. So why was he shot instead of someone like Curu or you barundar?

On August 24 2011 08:52 Jackal58 wrote:
Actually fuck it. I was saving this for the end of the night phase but Chaos has not called me scummy this game. The only other times he has done this is because he was on the scum team. I know it sounds lame but he's so damn consistent at it it's funny. I have been watching to see if he chose one of the three main targets over the others but his votes are off in the toolies. Ya I'll lynch Chaos. But I do know he is at work.


On August 25 2011 08:29 Jackal58 wrote:
Hi iGrok

Pyo
Palmar
RayzorFlash
nard
chaos13
Barundar
BrownBear


One is a townie but I don't know which.


Jackal was convinced chaos was scum and 100% would have followed along with palmar's plan to lynch chaos today. Pretty good motivation to kill someone.

I am hunting you down chaos!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 09:32 GMT
#1598
WBG lol. Jackal thought I was town and he wanted to lynch chaos. Why would I ever kill him if I am mafia? Just to setup a frame of chaos13? Please tell me my motivation as scum there.

I mean you are saying I wasted mafia kp instead of hitting a target who was likely blue or helping do a lot of analysis for town. I killed the guy who thought I was town and wanted to lynch the same person as me. Seems likely.

And no did you see the long analysis I wrote up about db earlier in the day. Before all the roleclaiming shit. Read that analysis and tell me if I am actively looking for scum or just trying to make townies look bad.

You are twisting everything I have done this game to make me appear scummy. I posted my analysis of DB because I was scum hunting not trying to shift attention away from myself. Most of your arguments are Mig is a good player look at all these tricky things hes doing to fool us! And you are thinking that way because in your mind you already think I am scum. If you actually looked at my posts with an open mind it's incredibly obvious that I am town.

Also btw just lol at coaching razor. I have played 2 games as mafia ever and I got lynched in both of them, sick coach I would be.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 10:21 GMT
#1600
Oh btw once again you have completely avoided answering my questions about foolishness' plan. Wtf?

Do you think mafia tried to divert the day2 lynch or not. If so how did they do and who did it.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 11:32 GMT
#1602
BB voted for xtfftc when there were 6 votes on me 3 on xtfftc and 2 on hiro. Rayzor was the first person to vote hiro. You could have easily looked at the voting thread to see this.

This was over 24 hours into day1. So according to you over the entire first half of the day the mafia's only effort to save me was these 2 votes? Mafia didn't bother to defend me whatsoever and that was their only effort to divert the bandwagon away from me?

You/foolish are incredibly biased. Can you really not see what is right in front of your face? Nobody tried to save me. You are finding connections where there are none. The fact that you even answered yes and no shows that really you have absolutely nothing here.

Foolish has said repeatedly the scum team is very unlikely to let one of their team members just die. So I want to know where was the effort? After looking back through day2 does anyone really think an effort was made to save me by anyone? You guys are taking a couple random votes of whomever you think is scummy and deciding that must mean they were trying to save me without any logic behind your conclusions.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 11:54 GMT
#1604
+ Show Spoiler +
Although I'm rather upset that Palmar was town and I was reading scum on him, I'm glad that mafia targetted him rather than someone else


Possible scum slip if there is a scum vigilante? Kurumi claimed the palmar kill. 4 people died last night why would you think mafia shot palmar WBG?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 11:57 GMT
#1606
I addressed every relevant point against me. Chaos show me where the mafia team tried to divert the day2 lynch away from me. You claimed that foolish proved I am scum with his trap. So ok show me where.

And you haven't responded to my case against you at all. You didn't respond to palmar's case either.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 12:23 GMT
#1608
I have stated why your logic was wrong. Your initial attack on palmar was completely incorrect. You accused him of ruining the thread. Palmar's play at the start of day1 lead to a lot of information and got people scum hunting. You turned it around to cast doubt on him saying he was scummy for it. Your post concerning me/chaoser/foolish. You pop in say all 3 of us are scummy then disappear. After last nights lynch you pop in to omgus me/jackal/palmar. You haven't pushed a lynch this entire game. Instead all you do is show up here and there to cast doubt on the only players doing any analysis. You haven't actually pushed any of your lynches because you don't want the backlash. Your play this entire game has benefited the mafia.

And are you criticizing me for not going into depth on my analysis? Have you contributed a single original thought against me? You haven't provided a single example for why I am scummy. You haven't explained how foolish proved my scumminess at all. I mean at the very least WBG wrote up a case against me. You just completely bandwagon voted me. Yet you claim to be pushing pretty hard for me today just lol. You haven't put in an ounce of effort this entire game.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 25 2011 12:42 GMT
#1611
zzzzz using semantics for why my argument is invalid against you. Obviously I am aware plenty of people have done analysis this game, how many have done good analysis? You have attacked all the people who have written the best analysis this game, is that better? And your only explanation for why every single person you push for is an active townie is well everyone has bad games. Solid explanation really clears up my doubts!

You say I haven't put effort into scum hunting. Really? Read my case against DB and compare it to anything you written this entire game.

Btw thanks for once again providing 0 examples of my scummy play this game and not explaining how foolishness' plan proved I am scum.You used it as one of your main points in casting your vote for me. Would be great if you could actually explain it. Or did you just blindly sheep onto foolish? All you have done is prove what little effort you have actually put into the game.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 26 2011 10:04 GMT
#1653
I was hoping I wouldn't have to claim but with everyone bandwagoning me doesn't look like there is much of a choice.

I am a tracker

Undead Hunter - welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are Udit the Nightstalker. You are well known for being the only man alive to have followed a nightwalker at night and lived to tell the tale. The battle you had with it in the deep underground lair of Uzurki is still recounted by the legend keepers of the inquisition. Your thirst for greater challenges has brought you to Liquidia . You challenge yourself every night by following a liquidian , and seeing who they visit, you win when all the cultists are dead, decapitated and with a stake through their heart for good measure.

Last night I tracked chaos13 to jackal. So unless he is a watcher/dt/noisy neighbor he is guaranteed red. I bread crumbed this several times with my earlier posts today. Which is why I specifically mentioned why chaos would have the motivation to kill jackal in my posts against him.

On August 25 2011 14:26 Mig wrote:
People should really look hard at chaos. And look at the fact that every person who called him out has died and flipped green.


On August 25 2011 17:14 Mig wrote:

One last thing. Why did jackal die last night? Was anyone else getting blue vibes from him? I wasn't. Had he been especially active or provided any strong analysis? No. So why was he shot instead of someone like Curu or you barundar?



On August 25 2011 17:14 Mig wrote:

I am hunting you down chaos!


So lynch chaos. If he flips red/noisy neighbor I am pretty close to a confirmed tracker. If I am lying and he flips green just vig me tonight.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 26 2011 10:10 GMT
#1656
JeeJee
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 26 2011 10:17 GMT
#1661
I was more suspicious of chaos than BB? Not exactly rocket science.

Super instead of lynching me for information. Look at everything I have done. Look at everything chaos has done and determine who is scum. If you think I planned out this gambit from last night killing jackal then breadcrumbing just so I could fake claim to kill chaos then go ahead and lynch me.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 26 2011 10:18 GMT
#1662
I tracked jeejee because last game I played with him he was very lurky as scum. But when looking at his other games he was also very lurky in werewolves as a dt. So I figured powerblue/scum were both possible.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1667
Yea I wonder why I wouldn't want to roleclaim a blue role chaos..... I claimed with around 15 hours left in the day. I didn't wait till last minute. The town has plenty of time to review all the information to determine if I am telling the truth.

I am glad you claimed VT, the only possible way you are not red now is if you are a noisy neighbor. But considering 2 of them have already died that seems pretty unlikely. I have given my defense if the town has any questions for me I will answer them. But either way if I die today you will die after.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 26 2011 12:28 GMT
#1670
NN are just like millers. You are not informed about being one.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 26 2011 12:36 GMT
#1672
After chaos flips look at the people who were against vote switching to him day2. From reading back through it I would look closely at.

Vain
Wherebugsgo
Lucidity
Chaoser

Besides them BB and maybe pyo/nard would most likely round out the scum team. If I had to list an exact team for what is most likely I would say.

BB
Chaoser
Vain
Lucid
Chaos
pyo
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