EPTTL Mafia XLIV - Page 4
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LIES! Oh wait..you're in europe lol. My guess, they read my thing about watchers and are afraid, especially after foolishness nailed nard as a watcher. It's like in XXXVIII (prot game) where mafia couldn't hit confirmed townies (me, bum, DrH i think). I thought about it and Pyo is very very likely scummy. If bum is framer (He probably is now that I think about it since I don't think at that point Vain was a big vigi target) then Pyo was trying to do a late push for Vain to be lynched by agreeing with me about it and trying to discredit wherebugsgo. | ||
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On August 31 2011 23:53 chaos13 wrote: I now have no idea who to vote for. chaoser - Claims DT with a red check on Vain. Not roleblocked, not hit. Doesn't vote for his red check today. Wherebugsgo - Flips tracker after stating that bumatlarge is probably a framer and Vain is not mafia. Good chance that he visited Vain, who didn't visit anyone. Possibility that Vain is GF. Possibility that he tracked bumatlarge who visited Vain. Possibility of both having tracked Vain and seeing he didn't visit anyone and tracking bumatlarge and seeing him visit Vain. Pyo - Claims DT at night. Has to be encouraged to post his checks, and doesn't post results. Later claims attempting to draw hits/roleblocks and claims naive DT with all green checks. I don't believe him, especially with the number of investigative roles that have already flipped/claimed. Possibility of being a sane DT and his targets actually green. Possibility of actually being a naive DT. Possibility of being a lying scumbag (most likely). Rayzorflash - Still a suspect for some reason. I'm not convinced on him. xtfftc - Still a suspect for some reason. I'm not convinced on him. BB/bumatlarge - Pretty damn scummy. Really wish WBG had left us more information here. Somebody check for breadcrumbs (In WBG's posts, not bum's) in the past day or two. I'd do it if I had the time right now. Post back with results. I suggest a couple people go look and post back so a mafia doesn't do it and fuck us all over. I would be comfortable voting for this guy today. Brief synopsis of my thoughts right now. Discuss. You're an idiot... 1) I probably didn't get visited by any mafia today cause they're scared of watchers. I'm voting Bum cause wherebugsgo, WHO FLIPPED TRACKER, posted that he saw bum visiting vain. So unless bum is blue, he's probably mafia. Either a framer or medic. If he's the former then vain is innocent, if he's the latter than vain is mafia. KK? 2) WTF wherebugsgo is dead?? Why would he be part of "no idea who to vote for?" And he didn't "visit Vain", he tracked bum TO Vain. There's NO possibility that Vain is GF in this wtf...he never tracked Vain, he tracked BUM. 3) You point on Pyo is 100% repeating other what other people have said and boils down to a summary of what's happened 4) Your part on xtfftc and rayzorflash is basically wasted words. 5) Asking for other people to do work instead of yourself: Somebody check for breadcrumbs (In WBG's posts, not bum's) in the past day or two. I'd do it if I had the time right now. Post back with results. I suggest a couple people go look and post back so a mafia doesn't do it and fuck us all over. If we weren't focused on bum today I'd be all over your scummy ass right now. | ||
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Pyo has posted very little, most of which have been either responses to other player's ideas, rewordings of what others have said or questions. He never took any opinions of his own and hasn't contributed to town in the least, merely posting but not actually posting. But the thing I want to focus the most on is his DT Claim. In his first part of his claim yesterday, he states: Vain - I voted for him after having checked him, what do you think I think of him? Night 1 - jackal Night 2 - Vain Night 3 - Erandorr As for my sanity, if chaoser is really a DT and really is sane, then I know my sanity as well since we checked Vain on different nights. Which all seem to paint a picture that he knows exactly what sanity he is (sane). He even says he checked Vain and his result agreed with mine, suggesting that he was a sane DT and his checks were correct. What doesn't make sense is that when I stated that I checked Vain and he came out red, Pyo came up right behind the idea and voted for Vain, even though the previous day he had checked Vain himself and gotten green (since he now claims he is a naive DT). Even if he wasn't sure of his sanity, you'd think he'd be a least a little bit wary of what I said But he got behind me as quickly as I claimed, pushing for Vain to be lynched. Even now he pushes for vain's lynch even though wherebugsgo has posted his tracker list that highly suggests that bum is indeed a framer (now I understand why wherebugsgo was so sure of that argument). This added to the fact that he refused to give us his results, claimed DT at night to try to shape today's lynch to go towards Vain, and continue to push the idea after wherebugsgo has given us his track list, suggests that he is mafia pushing for a vain mislynch. We'll know for certain after this day's lynch cycle if there is a framer flip but I suggest a lynch for Pyo on the next day cycle. | ||
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On September 03 2011 05:52 Barundar wrote: Yup Pyo needs to hang to cut KP asap. I agree. ##vote: Pyo | ||
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I'm pretty sure that the scum team can be found within Rayzor, supersoft, chaos13 and Navillus To an OMGUS vote on me? Pretty desperate, especially since all my actions are 100% explainable. It wasn't a matter of convenience, it was a matter of I know how to play the game. Not only have I been calling out mig (with his contradiction) since day 1 (which is why I checked him night 1), got foolishness' approval day 2 along with a medic coming out to confirm him (thus my check on him to try to check sanity), and finally getting mig LYNCHED on day 3, but I also pointed out and then argued that lynching bum was the best choice yesterday when a lot of people totally missed that point. Scum must be sweating it out huh? After today's lynch you won't be able to kill me at all cause you'll have one KP and I'm sure we have 1 medic left over, as you must think since that's why you're so scared to hit me. | ||
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On August 28 2011 12:01 Pyo wrote: why would you claim now of all times... you have a whole day to push for a vain lynch and now you're dead tonight. Oh well, I guess we should at least make use of your inevitable death and lower mafia kp to 2 and force them to double tap you. #vote: Vain When previously you hadn't been posting much of anything? As summed up by wherebugsgo's post right after your post that I just quoted? On August 28 2011 12:05 wherebugsgo wrote: Dude, you better start posting more before I start tunneling you into doing that. You're just BARELY staying under the modkill threshold. Either you're mafia or you're just absolutely lazy. Anyway, if over the course of the next 48 hours you don't become more active, you will CERTAINLY become part of my shortlist for mafia #6. + Show Spoiler + of course, the caveat is that posting more won't actually save you either, you gotta actually contribute stuff to help us hunt mafia lol Bum followed suit soon after, being the SECOND person to immediately vote Vain without question. A coincidence? I think not. | ||
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what was suspicious wasn't that he had found a way to "confirm" himself, but rather that he would just happen to have investigated the target of the frame. And I didn't fake claim. So are you basing your case on me based on the fact that I happened to check someone who was being framed? Note that not only was Vain being talked about a lot the previous day but that he also made a good check at that point (Was suspected, not at the forefront of people's minds, lurker-ish). Bum is obviously a smart mafia player, for him to pick to frame vain isn't beyond him. Also, need I point you to this? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5ROUu.png) More unlikely things have happened. My checking someone getting framed isn't that crazy/impossible a thing. I claimed at, what I think, was the perfect moment. Early in the cycle so that people could have time to analysis the situation (which I am glad for since it resulted in figuring out vain was framed), and just in time in the game so that mafia would have to decide on killing me with a double stack or going for two kills. My claim was two-fold as you can see, one was to get the info out and the other was, if mafia's KP was reduced, to give me a chance at not being shot at. It worked almost perfectly. | ||
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Now I have gone over some stuff and first off I don't think that Pyo is scum, look at his stuff at the beginning of the game, he seems pretty suspicious of mig even attacking him when palmar tries to defend him and calls both mig and BB scummy which just seems too dangerous for him to be scum to me. By call out BB and Mig do you mean this post? I'll start by saying that foolishness made a very convincing post about BB. At this point I'm leaning toward BB and Mig both being scum. DB flipping kind of lends him credence - doesn't mean he's necessarily right, but at least he's not trying to fool anyone. Cause that's not calling them out. He even backtracks on what he's saying. "Foolishness had a good post on BB, and he's probably town, but that doesn't mean he's right." He never calls anyone out, never gives us any of his own analysis, and always votes by following others. Aside from his vote on mig, which could have just been bussing since at that point (Day 3) mig was pretty much going to be lynched (Foolishness and I were hardcore pushing for it by then), he really hasn't done anything "pro-town". Add in his claim and I'm 90% sure he's mafia. | ||
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On September 04 2011 23:01 Pyo wrote: Like how can you even say that my votes have just been following along? Are you serious? Any also why did you check Kurumi night 4? I had claimed early enough in the night that you could have checked me. Why not confirm that I was telling the truth about my role knowing that they couldn't roleblock us both? Well it's pretty obvious, you're scum. DTs are suppose to check people they're unsure about, at that point and time I already thought you mafia so there was no point to a check on you? Of course your vote was a follow on. Previously you mentioned mig ONCE: On August 24 2011 07:02 Pyo wrote: had no internet for a day... im caught up to page 55, gonna place my vote on Mig, but i might change it if I finish reading the thread before the deadline. Not only do you not give a reason for why you voted for him but you also give yourself an out: "I might change it if I finish reading the thread." Later on you I'm going to keep my vote on Mig. He's gone with the "I'm burned out on mafia" defense of his posting into one-liners, which is as scummy as anyone else here (except for DB's role claiming). That said, I don't think he's going to get enough votes to actually be lynched. with the only justification for your vote being "His "burned out mafia" defense is scummy" | ||
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