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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 12 2011 05:07 GMT
#31
Oh my god if you start making a pony theme... I started watching that show with my niece, and it is pretty addicting, and very well made.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
December 15 2011 19:50 GMT
#56
Speaking of L, I just played a LoL game with him and he got very mad when I took kills as janna. Suport needs that gold yo.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#335
Alright I can't resist

/in
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 12 2012 01:06 GMT
#348
Flamewheel already sent me my planar dragon role GM, didn't you get yours?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 12 2012 04:38 GMT
#354
Planar dragon chooses which of the mortals will live and die. His objective is to defeat other planar dragons through the faith of mortals. Once mortals lynch him, it displays such a lack of faith that he vanishes from the material realm.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 04:20 GMT
#428
/confirm!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 04:53 GMT
#439
I will put up my candidacy for mayorshiplyness. I'm pretty good when I'm good. Plus there are alot of roles, and masons! I'm sure I can churn out an awesome plan. I'm fairly easy to read, yet I'm not bad at the game. If I start doing convoluted stuff, lynch me. I am probably mafia if things don't make sense.

And there are no RPGs this game.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 04:58 GMT
#440
We can't vote for ourselves right? If so,

##Vote Kitaman27

He's reliable townie, and I have learned to see through his evil shenigans if need be. But you should still vote me. But if not me, vote kitaman. But no seriously vote me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 05:39 GMT
#446
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


Well now we see you have no idea what you are talking about. I have seen kitaman play in alot of games as town and mafia, and going off one game means you have a biased opinion off limited samples. I can't read Wiggles for shit (he yet again starts the game with a post that seems strikingly similar to every other initial post he makes).

I'd back cyber_cheese's idea of lynching a scummy candidate. It's not very original, but putting more risk to running is fine by me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 05:45 GMT
#447
Bill and L together again. It's like a happy reunion! I hear wedding bells!

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 05:49 GMT
#450
Also thought I'd like to get to know some of the other players better. I know mostly everyone (surprising since its a 50 man game) but their are a few faces I don't. If you have any questions on the candidates, ask.

AND PLEASE MASON ME. I'll live with not being the mayor, but I love me some masons. Don't worry I'm not infected this game. Then I can share with you my knowledge. Also, I may or may not be batman this game, I feel a surge of confidence after winning the last game.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 06:09 GMT
#455
On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?


I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 06:57 GMT
#469
The "Why Bum should be mayor" post


First off, as surprising as it is, people don't know who I am. You will get to know me children. Like a loving father.

For those who do know me, I have many faces. I am batman, scumatlarge, or that mayor who forgot to- SHUT UP. I am all those, but none of those. I am the leader. I will not make us win this game. I will make YOU win us this game. That's my platform. I'll organize the shit out of everything and be superactive. No one can doubt that. I have more games here then any other individual. Yeah. Smoke that while I continue.

I believe a strong candidacy is based around a strong lynch. It's the strongest thing a mayor can do. Any mayor who does not is a BAD MAYOR. No excuses. Guess what my ratio for lynching scum is as mayor. 100%. Bam. I'm never wrong when I am mayor. If I am elected, I will lynch scum EASILY. IT WILL NOT BE DIFFICULT. And that will trigger your innate scumhunting abilities. People will look back at this game and go "Dayum, that town was tighter then a noose around Foolishness." or something.

Game Plan
We are going to analyze everything so well, people will be complaining at the amount of sheer content that we will be churning out. That is our priority. It's a 50-man game, so I want you to take active posters and read into them carefully. Thread-presence people. I won't to rule this out for scum. So I'm going to throw a zodiac list down of people I think are very good at mafia. They make great plays and have experience in posting well. If you see something off about any of these people, point it out. My initial list will just be from experience. These people have THREAD PRESCENCE regardless of their role.

+ Show Spoiler +

L
wherebugsgo
Foolishness
BloodyC0bbler
Bill Murray
Palmar
Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito)


Don't take offense if you aren't here, but these are posters that people look for, and scum center their discussion around. I don't think I'm great at controlling a thread, I more or less derail it as scum, and provide awesome townie support. I'd put solid players like myself, kitaman and Wiggles as vets and I'd throw them on a zodiac list, but this list is for newer players to understand strong personalities here. I would mason one of these players. Remember boys; thread prescence.

Power-Roles
There are alot of roles, and it is somewhat overwhelming, but as long as you apply logic to your decision making, you can't do something wrong. I'll go through each role and tell you how I would play it, because I'm good at mafia.

DON'T IDLY CLAIM. THINK BEFORE YOU DO. THINK LONG. Because I think my major mistake is thinking I have to get in the middle of things as a power role early on. So I claim early, when I shouldn't. In this aspect, do not be a bum.

Detective: You get roles. I think you lose some of your strength in claiming early, so I would hold off on claiming until you catch scum in a lie, or a person telling the truth is about to be lynched. This is very general, so use your best judgement. Check people in question. You will find yourself checking into the list I posted very often.

Medic: Never claim unless you have ruled out all reasons why you should not. Protect people who post analysis you agree with. Bam, you are a good medic.

Mad Hatter: I find this role much easier then vigilante. It's each to lay them out across scummy people and change your opinion. Mad hatters often hit at least 1 scum, so it is always worth it. Try to put it on less prominent scummy people rather then active scummy people. Rather then throw a bomb on them, get on their asses. It's never fun being down a bomb.

Vigilante: Personally, I always hold my shots late, but if you see the window, BREAK IT. Just remember, there is a "too early" while there is rarely a "too-late". Do the opposite of the madhatters.

VeteranPost alot, be active. I want you to have at least one warning from a mod for posting too much. Instead of reading it as "Stop posting" pretend it says "Slow-down". I picture it as if I was cruising down some urban street and the light goes yellow, and you just speed up. Exactly. Analysis. I will be doing an analysis before I post my lynch target, so you can see how I do it.

Jack: You are awesome, so post like you are awesome. Don't post around what your actions will be that night, perform your actions around how you are posting. I've never been a jack so what do I know.

Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with.

Mafia roles: Keep them in mind, but don't play around them unless you have solid reasons to do so. Let mafia respond to you instead of the other way around.

I am scanning for the best lynch at the moment, and I take what everyone says into account, so stop reading this and post.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 07:03 GMT
#472
On January 13 2012 15:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Bum, why are you giving generic blue advice?


Because I might be a generic blue! Or because I dont think its generic. Looking at past games, 9 out of 10 times people make mistakes as blue. We can make it optimal. I'll be calling for shots and protects anyway, because I feel like it would help town more then it hurts it in a big game like this.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 07:05 GMT
#473
Oh look there I go claiming too early again
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 07:43 GMT
#487
On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [campaign post] +
[image loading]


This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

[image loading]

You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I'm 100% serious

Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected?

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On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.

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On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?


I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game.

Explain.

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On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO.

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On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy...

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


He's posting with a positive attitude and he didnt squeem at all at the prospect of lynching wiggles. Plus he took your lameness seriously :D I'm not planning ahead THAT much, and running for mayor as blue is perfectly reasonable reasoning. Unless a vanilla townie is very good, there is little reason for him to run over a townie.

I find cheese's posting rather scummy so far. He seems rather content with stepping on peoples posts this game with not much regard to his own. I will review his case.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 07:56 GMT
#488
BC if you hang foolishness I'll consider voting you. But you have to promise to be superactive, not Mr, oh I'm BC and I 'm just gonna come in on day 3 and do stuff. I guess if you are serious running for mayor.

Bill has a point though, why would foolishness push bill as mayor when bill hasnt posted? It seems rather neutral, but not necessarily moot. He's drawing alot of attention. I couldn't think of a better way for him to say "HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT ME"
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 13 2012 19:52 GMT
#681
I don't think people are understanding where BC is coming from, a town mason is more likely to just immediately get rights, but if you look at scum mason;

Mason
At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. The Mafia team will have a set number of people to choose as Masons. Mafia with other roles (Roleblocker, Framer, Godfather) can double up on Mason roles.


They have to pick them. Do you think mafia right off the bat is going to grab the mason role and start yapping away? I think if BC is mafia, he is doing us a favor. I think masons should claim in thread, the faster the better. It forces mafia into an awkward position, or else they can't claim at all.

The only thing is why BC is insisting on running for mayor as well. It doesn't seem necessary. It displays a lot of self-interest which is what I fear. I must work now but I'll check in later.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 14 2012 01:48 GMT
#839
ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS

I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.

Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.

BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?

@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.

Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#846
Mattchew's reasoning:
"Hm, foolishness is a strong townie I hear, and I'm a mason, I wonder what I should do?" At this point, mattchew had not yet posted in the thread so he must have read this;

On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
[image loading]


This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

[image loading]

You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I'm 100% serious


Mattchew:
"Wow, he really is a solid townie! Look at how he backs a questionable candidate who has not even posted yet. He might be scum, or he's a really good town player"

Now, if you had alot of experience with foolishness, I could perhaps understand, but if this is your reasoning as a person who has not played with him, your reasons for him as town suck. ERGO you must be trolling.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 14 2012 02:06 GMT
#856
On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 10:48 bumatlarge wrote:
ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS

I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.

Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.

BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?

@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.

Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department.

RPGs dude.
You killed us.

Please stop bringing this up, I had posted multiple times in the QT what we were going to do, and I had to manage your massive failure in the item game, as well as all these items in the black market that were OP as hell. You wanna push this, then blame it on the mods or something. As far as I was concerned, I was 1 of the only two useful townies that game, and I would have won it single handedly. Bringing this up is just a testament to how amazing I am as a leader.

Thanks jackal, I'm expecting your vote any minute now.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 14 2012 02:08 GMT
#858
On January 14 2012 11:06 Slardar wrote:
I don't see how discussing who to lynch as a campaign is seen as something useful. As far as I'm concerned, it's all a coin-flip at this point and time. Some of the veterans pointed out Bill Murray or Cobbler are threats as scum. Anyone who doesn't want to put in effort in my opinion would be my first lynch if I was mayor. Otherwise, democratic voting system.


You do realize what the point of mafia is, correct?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 14 2012 02:13 GMT
#860
On January 14 2012 11:06 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 14 2012 10:48 bumatlarge wrote:
ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS

I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.

Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.

BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?

@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.

Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department.

RPGs dude.
You killed us.

Please stop bringing this up, I had posted multiple times in the QT what we were going to do, and I had to manage your massive failure in the item game, as well as all these items in the black market that were OP as hell. You wanna push this, then blame it on the mods or something. As far as I was concerned, I was 1 of the only two useful townies that game, and I would have won it single handedly. Bringing this up is just a testament to how amazing I am as a leader.

Thanks jackal, I'm expecting your vote any minute now.


EBWOP: Forgive this post, I got angry. If you really think I'd play this game exactly the way I would play insane mafia 2 where I was the police chief and the mayor, and you think someone here would have done a better job in the same position, then fine.

I'm opting out of the race. I'm clearly not meant to be mayor on TL ever again.

That said, Slardar, the strength of the mayor is how much ressure is put on them by deciding the lynch. Scum can run bullshit campaigns if all they need to live up to is having +3 voting power and night protection. Scum mayor's get massive amounts of flak very quickly because it becomes apparent rather quickly that they don't have town's best interest.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 14 2012 02:20 GMT
#862
On January 14 2012 11:14 Toadesstern wrote:
nooo, I was considering voting for you, sandroba or wbg at this point in time and you had the lead


Forget it, sandroba is a solid player, I' go with him if you were voting for me. I think there are one too many candidates at the moment, so as a townie, it's better to strengthen people who run similar campaigns to yourself.

Although, that said, both sandroba and WBG need to be a bit more vocal. I think WBG just started posting, but sandroba hasn't been super active enough to be a good mayor. If Bill Murray wasn't Bill Murray and foolishness didn't nosedive his campaign before it ever started, I'd consider him.

BC obviously can't be ruled out.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 14 2012 02:49 GMT
#871
On January 14 2012 11:39 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 11:13 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 14 2012 11:06 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 14 2012 10:48 bumatlarge wrote:
ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS

I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.

Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.

BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?

@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.

Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department.

RPGs dude.
You killed us.

Please stop bringing this up, I had posted multiple times in the QT what we were going to do, and I had to manage your massive failure in the item game, as well as all these items in the black market that were OP as hell. You wanna push this, then blame it on the mods or something. As far as I was concerned, I was 1 of the only two useful townies that game, and I would have won it single handedly. Bringing this up is just a testament to how amazing I am as a leader.

Thanks jackal, I'm expecting your vote any minute now.


EBWOP: Forgive this post, I got angry. If you really think I'd play this game exactly the way I would play insane mafia 2 where I was the police chief and the mayor, and you think someone here would have done a better job in the same position, then fine.

I'm opting out of the race. I'm clearly not meant to be mayor on TL ever again.

That said, Slardar, the strength of the mayor is how much ressure is put on them by deciding the lynch. Scum can run bullshit campaigns if all they need to live up to is having +3 voting power and night protection. Scum mayor's get massive amounts of flak very quickly because it becomes apparent rather quickly that they don't have town's best interest.


I'm sorry Bum. I had no intention of pissing you off. You are one of my favorite people on here.


Aw, you're one of my favorites too. But prepare your anus if you bring that up again.

I'd probably vote for someone who was going to lynch cyber_cheese, or explains a better candidate. I don't see why ciryandor or palmar are scum over cheese.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 14 2012 03:10 GMT
#882
On January 14 2012 11:51 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm willing to vote bum for the fact that I like him right now. I think he's

Bum are you willing to lynch Palmar?

I'd be willing to lynch BC too if I continue feeling the way I'm feeling about him. But we'll see. Need more time on that, since BC is much harder to read than Palmar. Palmar's just like lolscum


If it's really a popular consensus. He's far from pro-town with his nonsense, and his reasons for not running or not caring about the election is sketchy.

On January 14 2012 11:50 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 11:49 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 14 2012 11:39 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 14 2012 11:13 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 14 2012 11:06 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 14 2012 10:48 bumatlarge wrote:
ATTENTION THOSE WHO READ BUM'S POSTS

I like BC, and I think his goals are pro-town, but I also feel our best move is to not make him mayor based on that. He has stated to me that he is not expecting to win from his claim, but I would like him to live up to that self-less expectation. If he has a good lynch candidate, then I'll get behind him. Town masons, it's up to you how you feel you shoul act based on BC's proposal, but be prepared to explain exactly why you haven't followed up on it already.

Cyber_Cheese is my lynch choice at the moment if I get voted in. He had a very "why not?" campaign, got himself into multiple players scopes early on and I feel like people are actively not discussing candidates for lynch. If there are a few people who are actual scum, distractions like endlessly swamping BC with point-less accusations about his claim, scum tend to not like talking about them.

BC, if you vote for me, I'd prefer to have you as sheriff where you can mantain your protection while being ut under the microscope with your claim. That sounds reasonable, no?

@meapak: I'm not reliable? lol please bro, I'm the most reliable person in this game. I'm readable and smart, and as mayor I can nail that one-time lynch, and then my votes will always be reliably placed. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY COMPLETELY UNDER MY THUMB... regardless of what my voting history said lol. You said this a while ago so, if you think I'm not good enough to be mayor just come out and say it cupcake.

Who is still running? THREAD PRESCENCE PEOPLE. If I can't remember if you are running or not, then you might as well opt out. Any half-assed campaigns by townies are detrimental, because I'll take your ass to court in analysis if you said you were campaigning and coughed up empty in the useful department.

RPGs dude.
You killed us.

Please stop bringing this up, I had posted multiple times in the QT what we were going to do, and I had to manage your massive failure in the item game, as well as all these items in the black market that were OP as hell. You wanna push this, then blame it on the mods or something. As far as I was concerned, I was 1 of the only two useful townies that game, and I would have won it single handedly. Bringing this up is just a testament to how amazing I am as a leader.

Thanks jackal, I'm expecting your vote any minute now.


EBWOP: Forgive this post, I got angry. If you really think I'd play this game exactly the way I would play insane mafia 2 where I was the police chief and the mayor, and you think someone here would have done a better job in the same position, then fine.

I'm opting out of the race. I'm clearly not meant to be mayor on TL ever again.

That said, Slardar, the strength of the mayor is how much ressure is put on them by deciding the lynch. Scum can run bullshit campaigns if all they need to live up to is having +3 voting power and night protection. Scum mayor's get massive amounts of flak very quickly because it becomes apparent rather quickly that they don't have town's best interest.


I'm sorry Bum. I had no intention of pissing you off. You are one of my favorite people on here.


Aw, you're one of my favorites too. But prepare your anus if you bring that up again.

I'd probably vote for someone who was going to lynch cyber_cheese, or explains a better candidate. I don't see why ciryandor or palmar are scum over cheese.


why do you think cheese is scum?


He immediately posts a campaign, and from where I'm standing, it was a run for the chance. Denying mayor or sheriff is huge for scum, so I believe it's worth it to have as many scum run as possible. I think that's the syptom this game has come down with. I did agree with his lynch a candidate, but it was so fleeting, it doesn't seem like a prospect he was intending to be on the other end of after suggesting it.

His posts ump around from topic to topic, and I hate questions that aren't intended to lead somewhere solid. Cyber_cheese is a major offender.

On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [campaign post] +
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This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

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You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes I'm 100% serious

Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected?

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On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.

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On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?


I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game.

Explain.

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On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO.

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On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy...

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


Posting as town has direction and intention. Compare this to wiggles post.


On January 13 2012 15:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Bum, why are you giving generic blue advice?


What is the point of wiggles post? Obvious. What is the point of Cyber_Cheese's post? Not obvious at all. Intention, Wiggles>answers, Cheese>Distraction.

I'm not going to play this out politically, but if you want to oust cyber, vote me and that's what I will do. End of story.

I'll look into protact's analysis of BC, but I have a few immediate questions. Don't you think the set-up would change BC's decision to claim as town? I don't think the age-old argument of PM's being bad or good is what BC is on about. Is BC's self-interest what makes you think he is scum, or is it the actual claim/plan? I wouldn't agree at that point.

I'll also read palmar's filter again WBG, but there isn't much there. I'm suspicious of you pushing him so hard, but he is scummy, so I'll take what you say into account.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 14 2012 04:20 GMT
#896
@Protact - This was kinda buried in my post so I'll say it again.
'll look into protact's analysis of BC, but I have a few immediate questions. Don't you think the set-up would change BC's decision to claim as town? I don't think the age-old argument of PM's being bad or good is what BC is on about. Is BC's self-interest what makes you think he is scum, or is it the actual claim/plan? I wouldn't agree at that point.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 14 2012 04:53 GMT
#898
Palmar - Sorry WBG he's a null tell from where I'm standing, he's not being 100% useless and put his vote on someone relevant.

BC - While it does seem like a sneaky thing to do as scum, I can't get behind lynching BC without feeling really sure he is scum. Contradictions made pre-game often feel more concrete then they are. I don't think Protact referred enough to the mason mechanics this game for me to feel BC is trying to fuck us over.

Cyber_Cheese is still my strongest read.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 14 2012 07:23 GMT
#928
I need to sleep. I'm going to put my vote on bill because I think he will lynch cyber cheese, or some other better candidate. BC has not given any anti-town motivation in his talk, (even protactinum hasn't mentioned what is wrong with all masons claiming) and the analysis is revolving around what he should be doing. Yes he should be analyzing people, but he has kept quiet in games for the first two days so he can fly under the radar as an analyst. I don't know why this is so surprising that he is trying to vie for a protected position, while attempting to shut down use of a role by mafia.

I only question his selfish intentions. I don't think he needs a mayoral spot to protect himself this game, I'd rather give that to someone I think is town. Same goes to you protactinum. You are so focused on the lynch portion, that it might be worth it for you to grab mayor anyway you can. I don't believe this is staged at the moment, but my inner bum is tingling.

I would rather have bill murray who is going to lynch scum that I can analyze the play of.

@BM: just makng sure, who are you lynching if you get voted in?
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 14 2012 07:30 GMT
#931
On January 14 2012 16:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 13 2012 15:57 bumatlarge wrote:
Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with.


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On January 14 2012 04:52 bumatlarge wrote:
I don't think people are understanding where BC is coming from, a town mason is more likely to just immediately get rights, but if you look at scum mason;

Mason
At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. The Mafia team will have a set number of people to choose as Masons. Mafia with other roles (Roleblocker, Framer, Godfather) can double up on Mason roles.


They have to pick them. Do you think mafia right off the bat is going to grab the mason role and start yapping away? I think if BC is mafia, he is doing us a favor. I think masons should claim in thread, the faster the better. It forces mafia into an awkward position, or else they can't claim at all.


Why and how did your opinion completely change?


Well just because I think mafia masons are bad, doesnt mean they cant be useful. I think BC's plan does a good job of stopping their use, or severely attaching scum to one another. Nice try Monsieur cheese I'm pretty good in on-on-one situations, so I don't view mafia masons as good. But, oh yes, that is my "generic blue advice" no one needs to hear my genericly awesome mason reading powers. they'll just figure out everything I don't say on their own! Silly me.
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bumatlarge
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January 14 2012 07:31 GMT
#932
On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote:
Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting.


Why ciryandor?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 14 2012 07:38 GMT
#938
On January 14 2012 16:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 16:30 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:57 bumatlarge wrote:
Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with.


On January 14 2012 04:52 bumatlarge wrote:
I don't think people are understanding where BC is coming from, a town mason is more likely to just immediately get rights, but if you look at scum mason;

Mason
At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. The Mafia team will have a set number of people to choose as Masons. Mafia with other roles (Roleblocker, Framer, Godfather) can double up on Mason roles.


They have to pick them. Do you think mafia right off the bat is going to grab the mason role and start yapping away? I think if BC is mafia, he is doing us a favor. I think masons should claim in thread, the faster the better. It forces mafia into an awkward position, or else they can't claim at all.


Why and how did your opinion completely change?


Well just because I think mafia masons are bad, doesnt mean they cant be useful. I think BC's plan does a good job of stopping their use, or severely attaching scum to one another. Nice try Monsieur cheese I'm pretty good in on-on-one situations, so I don't view mafia masons as good. But, oh yes, that is my "generic blue advice" no one needs to hear my genericly awesome mason reading powers. they'll just figure out everything I don't say on their own! Silly me.

It also completely shuts down town masons, which you thought were excellent.
Why are you willing to give up such an awesome protown role, where two townies could be 'a force to be reckoned with', just to cancel the abilities of the scum masons, which are 'not good at all'.


Town masons claiming doesnt shut down town masons. They can get into contact with any individual they want? They are unrole-blockable, and they eventually have to release the information/analysis they find. I never say that anywhere. Did BC say that?
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 14 2012 07:44 GMT
#941
On January 14 2012 16:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 14 2012 16:38 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:33 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:30 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:57 bumatlarge wrote:
Mason Favorite role, I kind of laugh when I see mafia masons, as they are not good at all. It's basically more work for mafia to convince people in the thread and then in PMs. Still be wary. There is a lot of mindgames in PMs, but nothing is as cool as being sure the other person is town. It's basically like a mini-game of mafia. Give each other analysis, and plan out what you will do with the other person. Better yet, mason me and we will a force to be reckoned with.


On January 14 2012 04:52 bumatlarge wrote:
I don't think people are understanding where BC is coming from, a town mason is more likely to just immediately get rights, but if you look at scum mason;

Mason
At the beginning of every cycle, you may send a PM to me detailing who you would like to Mason with during that cycle. You may PM with that person for the full cycle. You may not choose a person you have already Masoned with for the remainder of the game. The Mafia team will have a set number of people to choose as Masons. Mafia with other roles (Roleblocker, Framer, Godfather) can double up on Mason roles.


They have to pick them. Do you think mafia right off the bat is going to grab the mason role and start yapping away? I think if BC is mafia, he is doing us a favor. I think masons should claim in thread, the faster the better. It forces mafia into an awkward position, or else they can't claim at all.


Why and how did your opinion completely change?


Well just because I think mafia masons are bad, doesnt mean they cant be useful. I think BC's plan does a good job of stopping their use, or severely attaching scum to one another. Nice try Monsieur cheese I'm pretty good in on-on-one situations, so I don't view mafia masons as good. But, oh yes, that is my "generic blue advice" no one needs to hear my genericly awesome mason reading powers. they'll just figure out everything I don't say on their own! Silly me.

It also completely shuts down town masons, which you thought were excellent.
Why are you willing to give up such an awesome protown role, where two townies could be 'a force to be reckoned with', just to cancel the abilities of the scum masons, which are 'not good at all'.


Town masons claiming doesnt shut down town masons. They can get into contact with any individual they want? They are unrole-blockable, and they eventually have to release the information/analysis they find. I never say that anywhere. Did BC say that?

BC was talking about ignoring PM's completely, and he's been wishy washy on whether he's keen on all the masons claiming.


Apparently I don't know how to read. Claiming doesn't turn off their abilities. BC what you smoking son?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 01:02 GMT
#1350
How to distract Bum101: Post links to other games. Seriously spent 1/2 hour readinf BC's posts in PYP3. That was a fun game.

Glad L is around, I don't think it was too late for anyone to start running for mayor since the votes are fairly spread out. I honestly like where protactinum is coming from with his latest posts, and would like to see BC flip. He has gotten alot of votes from thin air :X, especially after Incog had already given his in depth analysis before most of the votes. Protact's surge of votes seems unsurprising, so I definetly want him in a mayoral position.

@Protact - What will you do if BC becomes sheriff and you become mayor? I'm assuming you'll lynch someone who voted for him, or ciryandor, your previous lynch? Who is macpo lol?

Also, lol at VE. I'm would vote for you bro, if you were close to the leader. I'm assuming you would lynch CC?
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 01:03 GMT
#1351
On January 15 2012 10:00 Protactinium wrote:
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If so, why are you pushing such a new player despite the fact that plenty of other players have played similarly to him?


I'm not Foolishness, but the bolded statement is false. Nobody else has overemphasized their newbiness in an attempt to hide in their first 3 posts. Macpo is the obvious lynch at the moment. This is a textbook example of mafia. See: Misder from Ver's TL Mafia XXX Guide


Oh, would you vote macpo over BC given the choice?
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 01:12 GMT
#1355
On January 15 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On January 15 2012 10:02 bumatlarge wrote:
How to distract Bum101: Post links to other games. Seriously spent 1/2 hour readinf BC's posts in PYP3. That was a fun game.

Glad L is around, I don't think it was too late for anyone to start running for mayor since the votes are fairly spread out. I honestly like where protactinum is coming from with his latest posts, and would like to see BC flip. He has gotten alot of votes from thin air :X, especially after Incog had already given his in depth analysis before most of the votes. Protact's surge of votes seems unsurprising, so I definetly want him in a mayoral position.

@Protact - What will you do if BC becomes sheriff and you become mayor? I'm assuming you'll lynch someone who voted for him, or ciryandor, your previous lynch? Who is macpo lol?

Also, lol at VE. I'm would vote for you bro, if you were close to the leader. I'm assuming you would lynch CC?


Ya dude he's scumtastic. Have you had a chance to take a look? Everyone else is ignoring me because of my dumbassery


I was gonna lynch him too. Protact, can you give your thoughts on Cybercheese? I like your reasoning for macpo, but he seems like a lot weaker then CC. I'm sure you'd get mayor then
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 01:15 GMT
#1358
Here is my reasoning.
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On January 14 2012 12:10 bumatlarge wrote:
He immediately posts a campaign, and from where I'm standing, it was a run for the chance. Denying mayor or sheriff is huge for scum, so I believe it's worth it to have as many scum run as possible. I think that's the syptom this game has come down with. I did agree with his lynch a candidate, but it was so fleeting, it doesn't seem like a prospect he was intending to be on the other end of after suggesting it.

His posts jump around from topic to topic, and I hate questions that aren't intended to lead somewhere solid. Cyber_cheese is a major offender.

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On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
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This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

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You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
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Yes I'm 100% serious

Bill Murray hasn't even posted yet. Why are you so sure you want him elected?

On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.

On January 13 2012 15:09 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?


I have successfully ruled this person out as mafia. I am good at this game.

Explain.

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO.

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy...

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


Posting as town has direction and intention. Compare this to wiggles post.


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On January 13 2012 15:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Bum, why are you giving generic blue advice?


What is the point of wiggles post? Obvious. What is the point of Cyber_Cheese's post? Not obvious at all. Intention, Wiggles>answers, Cheese>Distraction.

I'm not going to play this out politically, but if you want to oust cyber, vote me and that's what I will do. End of story.

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 01:36 GMT
#1367
On January 15 2012 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor!

Wait did he just say.....

YES!

VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out.

My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting.

Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor.

In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me.

Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.

Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?

In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election!

Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys.

Now his vote is on BC.

Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials.

If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C.

A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!!


Is this nothing? Can someone experienced tell me why this is nothing?


You are cursed, like me. You tried to dayvig someone with your ability, and despite your good intentions, peolpe won't view you as reliable. It's a shame really, you are easily the best choice for mayor IMO. But with two hours left I don't think it's happening.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 03:02 GMT
#1428
I think it's too late now? I still like protact, no one has gone in depth why he shouldnt be mayor

all gut feelings and one line accusations :/
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 03:07 GMT
#1433
On January 15 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 15 2012 12:02 bumatlarge wrote:
I think it's too late now? I still like protact, no one has gone in depth why he shouldnt be mayor

all gut feelings and one line accusations :/


bum really? His only cause to analyze me is he doesn't like my claim and is using year old + games to prove his case against me where the style in both was completely different.

Everyone go back and read pick your power 3 and read jimbo silvers play, guess what, that was incog. Compare to this game now.


You think he is SK? :D

No i don't think you are scum, protact said he wouldnt kill you. Just because protact is mayor doesnt mean he gets to decide the next lynch. If he does lynch you he has a lot to answer to :/
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 03:12 GMT
#1443
LOL WHEN WAS MATTCHEW MODKILLED?

lol i didnt even notice that ;_;
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 03:15 GMT
#1446
Hmmm that is true, I'd assume a vet after thinking he isn't sure with a lynch would apologize and give the throne to someone else, but then he just kinda shifts his lynch decision with no real transition.

Damn, now I'm regretting voting for him...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 03:19 GMT
#1454
I think FW asked for all candidates to submit their lynch, no?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 03:21 GMT
#1458
On January 15 2012 12:20 supersoft wrote:
i don't want to recount the votes. I am just hoping :D


I find it funner not to :D
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 03:30 GMT
#1476
On January 15 2012 12:29 Palmar wrote:
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On January 15 2012 12:27 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 15 2012 12:27 Toadesstern wrote:
why are you awake at 3:30 am in the morning? I thought you don't care about the election?

that was directed towards palmar, sry


I'm watching Tim Tebow fail, it's hilarious.


Tim Tebow is the man

(giants fan)
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 15 2012 03:36 GMT
#1484
Palmar was channeling his inner-traitor. I didn't think he was scum I started to doubt myself near the end of the day, but I think we can learn alot from that. BC, just curious, who were you saying would be your other lynch?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 17 2012 02:19 GMT
#1998
sorry im around reading thread
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 17 2012 02:56 GMT
#2018
Cyber_cheese has not changed from being severely scummy. Please read his posts.

As for other candidates, I'm not at all on board with protact or sandroba, I'm reasonably certain they are not scum. I'd say protact is more scummier so if anyone was goin to die if someone can prove a bus, then it would be him. Obviously, no one has given solid proof as to why ciryandor was a failed bus. Seems like logical failures, since palmar was town, why would scum fail push protact and crew, and then watch ciryandor actually get vig'd? Sounds more like he is town and in the pool of people who correctly agreed with him, there was a vig.

Macpo seems very similar to ciryandor. Very self-centered posting. And...


On January 17 2012 11:15 Foolishness wrote:
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On January 17 2012 11:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
EBWOP: I forgot to add Macpo to the FoS list.

Pretty interesting how you just mentioned Macpo now and decided to (almost) ignore him completely from the start of the game.

In fact I find it very very very interesting that you make a lot of posts like these...
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On January 17 2012 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Nope hiro, we're lynching GGQ today. You don't have a very strong case against sandroba and neither do any of the other jubjubs calling for his death right now. We lynch GGQ today, tomorrow we lynch any of the people who have popped out of the woodwork to defend him.

Also for those viewers who are keeping track back home, I'm working my way through the filters of the players I talked about in my post last night, I should have something on who is who in a few hours.

...while choosing to ignore a lynch candidate who is under attack from arguably the 2 best scumhunters in this game.

Hey Incog, I found another mafia!


Bingo. Through day 1, when people were going on about being distracted, I started thinking on people who were abusing this to no end, getting their fingers in every pie, and takng zero risk in putting themselves out there.

On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

I don’t like Kitaman because he says he’s not the strongest town player and I want to elect the strongest mayor possible. He also cites his activity as a reason to be elected but like I said earlier, everyone should be active. Kita does say some good things, if the people who I consider stronger players than kita don’t run or look scummy to me, I’d not be opposed to having kita as my sheriff.

Bum is a really bad vote. Insane 2 is a good example, another good example is responsibility where kita (the mafia) almost convinced him to mislynch. My point is that bum can be swayed and isn’t the most reliable person to have for mayor. I want a mayor who I can be sure will not be swayed by mafia. Also, I really dislike bum claiming (or at least hinting) blue.

I don’t like Mr. Wiggles, his reasoning is basically, “every mayor post will sound the same so vote for me.” While it’s true that mayor posts do sound similar, they put the candidate in the spotlight, and even if the candidate doesn’t get elected, they still have to play by the values they espoused because they publicly said that’s how they’d play.

Just because Foolishness is good does not make Bill Murray a good vote. While foolishness is known for random trolling in the first few days, this is just completely ridiculous. While it’s great that BM says he wants to scum hunt and all, I want to elect someone who I’ve seen evidence of good scum hunting and I haven’t seen that from BM (in fairness, I didn’t have the greatest opportunity, however I’m still going to stick with players I know are good).

Risk.nuke does the same thing as kita and says he isn’t the best townie, he also says he’s lost interest a few times but swears he won’t do it this game. Famous last words… No offense risk but this isn’t very compelling.

Protactinium has one post saying he’ll lynch ciryandor. Not very compelling, maybe that’ll change when he posts more.

Out of all the candidates so far, BloodyC0bbler is the one who made the most sense and I would vote for to be my sheriff. He and Bum are both claiming to do a lot of the same thing, however bum (as I said before) can be swayed and manipulated. BC also willing accepts the spotlight which is good and he doesn’t over promise what he can deliver. Bum talks about organizing the town, BC says what he’d do. Subtle but important difference which means without further ado:

##Vote: BloodyC0bbler

I’d love to have you be my sheriff :D




Now after all that let’s get to why I would make a good mayor. For one thing, I am a good scum hunter. I can claim credit for at least two scum lynches and two successful vigi shots in a recent time frame. My town play is extremely solid and you can count on me to be analyzing and posting throughout the game. While I hate to use this as a reason since I ragged on people earlier for doing it, I’d also like to point out that my scum play is pretty atrocious as evidenced by my
performance in the last pyp game.

As mayor, I will be constantly scum hunting. Now mayor doesn’t magically give a license to scum hunt, I'll be owning scum hard whether I'm elected or not, it’s the protection I’m looking for. I would like to be able to kill as many scum as possible and that’ll be difficult if I die night one. Electing a mayor is a lot about choosing who will survive the nights, that’s why it’s important to have a townie AND a good player because the longer that player can survive the better. This is why a) I don’t want to vote for people who consider themselves only middling town player and b) why I want BC to be sheriff.

Anyway, those are my reasons for getting elected, now on to scum hunting. I’d like everyone to take a quick look at these posts by GGQ:

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On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:22 Ciryandor wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.

LOL that's a good reason to get you voted in. Lynching someone for having an opinion.


Your posts have been very bad so far.


On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.


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On January 13 2012 15:32 GGQ wrote:
Also voting for BM because he is BM is really dumb. He should be treated like any other player, we don't need metagame arguments/discussions about him clogging up the thread. Don't vote for him, stop discussing him until he posts, then talk about his posts. Thanks you.


These two posts are extremely bad for town. The first one is bad because he just calls out these people without giving a reason for why their posts were bad. If you’re going to call people out (as I’m doing right now) say why you’re doing it. In fact I’d like to make that clear real quick: If you are town, give reasons when you call people out. There’s absolutely no reason not to share your thoughts. The second post is bad because it contradicts itself and is pretty useless all in all.

Nisani does the same thing:

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On January 13 2012 16:18 Nisani201 wrote:
All the mayor candidates suck.

Although Nisani later clarifies this post as to why he doesn’t like the candidates, it would have been way better if he had just done that in the first place rather than make a blanket statement.

Please please please refrain from making these sorts of posts. If you’re gonna say something is bad, tell us why. This goes for everyone and it’d be great if we had a game where everyone explained stuff when they posted it. Also while we’re on the topic of bad posting, please keep these sorts of questions (@such and such, who do you think about so and so?) to a minimum. They serve no purpose. Questions are powerful tools when used correctly; however mindlessly asking people random questions is a great way for scum to appear active and contributing. So let’s as a town just agree not to do this mkay.

I don’t have much else to say at the moment. In anticipation of all the “@Mayor candidate: who would you lynch and why?” posts I’ll just say at the moment I’d lynch GGQ based on what I wrote above, however it’s only like a few hours into the game and not everybody has even checked in yet so I think it’s too early start calling for people’s deaths. However, now is a perfect time for:

FOS: GGQ

Gonna match actions to words.

K I’m going to sleep. I’ll be around tomorrow so I’ll address whatever comes up then.


Reading this again, I can't really find a bigger offender of this then meapak. Especially for a vet, he hits all the safe keys (dropping down his vote and his suspicions). I'll bold more examples of "safe keys".

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On January 14 2012 05:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Wow lots happened while I was asleep Alright let's talk BC's claim.

BC's claim is actually pretty brilliant in my eye and here's why. Before claiming, BC was easily one of the top three candidates for mayor if not the top one. There's little doubt in my mind that BC would have gotten one of the elected positions. Now he could always claim once elected, however that's not a pressure position. He's got bodyguards and immunity from dt checks so there's no danger of dying if he's town, or being found out if he's scum.

However by claiming mid day like this it instantly puts a HUGE amount of pressure on him. All eyes are on him at the moment and his every action is being scrutinized. This is an extremely tough position to be in as scum. And so it begs the question, if BC is scum, what is the motivation for claiming like this? He had a great chance at being elected so why mess that up as scum?

With this claim BC is willingly taking the spotlight and the scrutiny. While he may be scum and have the biggest balls I've ever seen, I find it far more likely that he is doing his best to demonstrate his good intentions by willingly going on the hot seat. In conclusion, I can only think of town motives for claiming.

currently MIA: L, now would be a good time to start posting.

Things that are bad in a townie way: Palmar, I don't think you're scum but I'd appreciate if you put more effort into the game.

Things that are bad in a scummy way: People calling Palmar scum. Palmar is making himself a really easy target with his blatantly bad posting, it doesn't take much to call someone who's posting like him out. It's people trying to score townie points by looking like they're standing up and acting town when in reality they're just going after something that costs them no skin off their back.
Note this doesn't apply to people who have simply asked Palmar to play better (like me lol) I'm instead talking about the people who were like "zomfg lynch palmar."
On January 14 2012 18:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
mkay wow a lot happened. I just wanna address the Mattchew candidacy.

This is a tough call. On one hand, it is possible that mattchew is town. But the only evidence we have of this is foolishness's word, and with foolishness's actions so far I don't put too much stalk in it. For one, I find it really odd that foolishness would out a blue role just like that, he should know better than that. Another reason is that mattchew seems way too eager to claim confirmed town. At this point in the game it's impossible to know. There's a very real possibility that scum would mason foolishness to try and find out if he's on to them. Ultimately though, trying to determine mattchew's alignment comes down to WIFOM which could get endless.

I would feel better about the whole mattchew thing if he took his position and tried to play protown with it however most of his posts since announcing his candidacy have been talking about how he is confirmed which he isn't.

Anyway at this point I still feel pretty good about BC despite protact's analysis. Other people who are making sense atm are kita and to a lesser extent WBG. I disagree with WBG that Palmar is scum, I thought I knew what Palmar was trying to do with his bad posting but if he doesn't come in and capitalize on it within the next 12 hours or so I'll be more inclined to think he's scum.

I would still love to see L post, I also want more out of GGQ who has done absolutely nothing so far, in terms of lynch I still feel very good about GGQ because I think he fits the lurking scum profile. He's been in the thread but his posts have not been protown and since I'm the only person who seriously called him out he's been able to slip into obscurity.



There is no content in meapak's posts, unless he specifically prefaces his posts to do so. I'm pretty sure that's a little scum-habit, because I don't remember seeing any of this in responsibility, but he was a sub for chezinu. Why didn't we make foolishness mayor lol?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 17 2012 03:00 GMT
#2023
On January 17 2012 11:42 Bill Murray wrote:
2 people who are masons are mafia together
the sandroba lynch gives us a lot of information


Bill, be reasonable, info lynching is a no-go, bro. Sandroba isn't scum.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 17 2012 03:02 GMT
#2024
On January 17 2012 11:59 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 11:55 Protactinium wrote:
On January 17 2012 11:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 17 2012 11:15 Foolishness wrote:
On January 17 2012 11:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
EBWOP: I forgot to add Macpo to the FoS list.

Pretty interesting how you just mentioned Macpo now and decided to (almost) ignore him completely from the start of the game.

In fact I find it very very very interesting that you make a lot of posts like these...
On January 17 2012 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Nope hiro, we're lynching GGQ today. You don't have a very strong case against sandroba and neither do any of the other jubjubs calling for his death right now. We lynch GGQ today, tomorrow we lynch any of the people who have popped out of the woodwork to defend him.

Also for those viewers who are keeping track back home, I'm working my way through the filters of the players I talked about in my post last night, I should have something on who is who in a few hours.

...while choosing to ignore a lynch candidate who is under attack from arguably the 2 best scumhunters in this game.

Hey Incog, I found another mafia!


this guy wants to lynch GGQ, someone incog thinks to be scum as well. So one of those 2 got to be wrong?

What is your point. Care to give any analysis? (other than sandroba, we've already heard enough of that).

you two say meapak is scum and you say GGQ is scum. Meapak wants GGQ to die. Something's wrong there unless meapak is know to do this.


That's not a huge unless! Unless, it's huge!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 17 2012 03:08 GMT
#2028
On January 17 2012 12:06 Bill Murray wrote:
If you want to convince me about Macpo, you can call me the po-po, bro
I read your post, and it screams town to me, why was I ever thinking you were scumatlarge this game?


lol because you still might be scum I'm keeping my bill murray filter close at hand.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 17 2012 03:19 GMT
#2044
On January 17 2012 12:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
This post seems to indicate that you think it's two...which is it, 1 or 2?


Woah deja vu. This is the part where VE would suicide bomb into the person he is talking to.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 17 2012 05:33 GMT
#2097
Uh, we are doing a double lynch right? Shouldn't we distribute the votes? I'll place my vote where it needs to be, but I do like what BC is saying. Across the boards, Jackal is scum. And now that meapak wants me to vote GGQ, I don't want to :X

Try to balance between macpo and Jackal
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 17 2012 05:36 GMT
#2099
My bad.
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January 17 2012 05:57 GMT
#2108
I may have mis-read the rules this time jackal, but your time will come.

On January 14 2012 10:50 Jackal58 wrote:
RPGs dude.
You killed us.

[image loading]
Your time will come...
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 18 2012 04:36 GMT
#2352
Checking in (^_^)=b
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January 19 2012 04:00 GMT
#2560
I think BM has some explaining to do. Jackal, why did you shoot L if bill was supposed to jail him? I don't think that would refund your shot?

##Vote: bill murray
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 19 2012 04:04 GMT
#2566
On January 19 2012 13:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 13:00 bumatlarge wrote:
I think BM has some explaining to do. Jackal, why did you shoot L if bill was supposed to jail him? I don't think that would refund your shot?

##Vote: bill murray


Probably because he knows Bill is gonna do what Bill wants and not what Protact wants. *shrug* I get that feeling from Bill and I've never played with the guy before.

JACKAL IS BAUS BACK UP OFF JACKAL!!!


HEY WOAH HEY WOAH HEY. Let jackal answer the question. I was pretty convinced he was mafia, and if this doesn't add up, I think it's fairly likely he might be scum.
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January 19 2012 04:16 GMT
#2577
On January 19 2012 13:05 Jackal58 wrote:
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On January 19 2012 13:00 bumatlarge wrote:
I think BM has some explaining to do. Jackal, why did you shoot L if bill was supposed to jail him? I don't think that would refund your shot?

##Vote: bill murray

Because BM won't do anything he's asked to do.


If a player is incinerated, and vigilante uses his shot on said person, does the bullet return?

You are on thin ice. But for L to be actually killed would require a vigilante to use the same logic you do. And you would probably use that logic too. So for now I believe you.
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January 19 2012 04:21 GMT
#2587
On January 19 2012 13:18 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 13:16 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:05 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:00 bumatlarge wrote:
I think BM has some explaining to do. Jackal, why did you shoot L if bill was supposed to jail him? I don't think that would refund your shot?

##Vote: bill murray

Because BM won't do anything he's asked to do.


If a player is incinerated, and vigilante uses his shot on said person, does the bullet return?

You are on thin ice. But for L to be actually killed would require a vigilante to use the same logic you do. And you would probably use that logic too. So for now I believe you.

It's INCARCERATED
Not incinerated.
Not incarnated.


I called my shot Bum. What do you have issues with? RPGs?


no i thought you were very likely scum. Perhaps I need to review BC more closely.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 19 2012 04:29 GMT
#2593
On January 19 2012 13:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 13:21 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:18 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:16 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:05 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 19 2012 13:00 bumatlarge wrote:
I think BM has some explaining to do. Jackal, why did you shoot L if bill was supposed to jail him? I don't think that would refund your shot?

##Vote: bill murray

Because BM won't do anything he's asked to do.


If a player is incinerated, and vigilante uses his shot on said person, does the bullet return?

You are on thin ice. But for L to be actually killed would require a vigilante to use the same logic you do. And you would probably use that logic too. So for now I believe you.

It's INCARCERATED
Not incinerated.
Not incarnated.


I called my shot Bum. What do you have issues with? RPGs?


no i thought you were very likely scum. Perhaps I need to review BC more closely.

Start here - Why did Proact want BM to incarcerate L? Read his filter but with Foolishness and Proacts.
Not one of them I could call scummy individual. But they are all 3 legs of the same milk stool.


I don't think that is entirely true. Foolishness and protact I agree with, but BC feels like a much shorter leg then the other three. Why would you not call him a scummy individual?
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January 19 2012 06:23 GMT
#2620
Meapak is clearly scum. His GGQ push is just one big crutch for him. Just read his last two posts.

##Vote meapak_ziphh
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January 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#2711
On January 20 2012 04:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On January 20 2012 03:50 jaj22 wrote:
On January 20 2012 02:25 kingjames01 wrote:
On January 20 2012 00:24 jaj22 wrote:
@Lanaia: You want Bill to blow up two of Foolishness/Protact/BC?

What? Do YOU want Bill Murray to blow up two of those 3? Analyse Foolishness and Protactinium for yourself. They ARE and HAVE BEEN pro-Town from the beginning. Until that changes they should not be targetted.

That was my point. I should probably make those clearer.

On January 20 2012 02:25 kingjames01 wrote:
What about Protactinium's latest post don't you like? Analyse it for us and tell us what you think.

Ok. I forgot about a couple of bits that I was fine with, so my statement was inaccurate. Here goes:

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
GGQ is cool.

On January 18 2012 13:12 GGQ wrote:
Yeah so I hard defended macpo because I thought he posted like I did when I was new.

It's probably better to vig me tonight instead of wasting a lynch.


Mafia don't send out reminders that they defended mafia.
Mafia also don't ask to be vigged, since they can't influence vigs, but they certainly can influence lynches.
Nobody lynch him today, keke?

I covered this in another post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13201470

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
BM. In contrast to BM's day 1 posting, his day 2 is abyssmal. Its also become less frequent too, which exactly fits my prediction if he is mafia, as his mafia play deteriorates rapidly (for cross reference, TL Mafia XXII where he is the mafia GF). And yes I should be one to know this read as I was mafia with him in that game.

This is absolutely true except that BM had a really spammy patch in day 2, so I'm not too sure about the frequency point yet. In TL Mafia XXII his post count crashes at the end of day 2 and stays low.

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
Toadesstern
On January 19 2012 10:56 Toadesstern wrote:
I'd actually willing to lynch BM + GGQ tomorrow. I still think my case is good but I don't like the arguments of the people joining me :p
However I don't like the people telling me it's wrong either because there's nothing they got to say.
The only ones I like right now are people you are not commenting it at all but that's not helping me at all :p


Filter all of Toadesstern's posts. Search for all instances of GGQ. Confirm that Toadesstern has never made a case on GGQ, and has in fact been preventing his lynch all yesterday. "I still think my case is good"? Lol. Bullshit. See a trend here?

Also combine with my pressure yesterday, which showed that Toadesstern somehow knew what happened behind the scenes with sandroba influencing BC with Palmar's lynch.

What? Toad was trying to protect his scumbuddy GGQ and get his scumbuddies Sandroba and Macpo lynched instead? I don't buy the Palmar lynch influence knowledge point because it's quite plausible that Toad just jumped to a conclusion. I don't think it's even an illogical conclusion from the "compromise" post.

I'm guessing this is a pressure case because Protact can't get a read out of Toad's filter any more than I can

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
Sandroba. Again, abyssmal day 2 posting compared to day 1. The case totally makes sense if you consider that Toadesstern somehow knows what goes on between sandroba/BC. As for explanations related to Ciryandor, yeah, mafia usually don't do that. But they do avoid pushing too hard where they can avoid it. Sandroba was never a viable mayor candidate, never votes for mayor (neutral, I suppose, but he doesn't vote for the person who brought up the Ciryandor case - read: me), and influences the Palmar lynch. Over Ciryandor, the person whose death he has supposedly been calling for all game in thread. Combined, these points outweigh his in thread support of Ciryandor. I know I vocally said he was town yesterday. But I lied. I only said that because I needed to get macpo lynched first lol.

I thought Sandroba's day 2 posting was better if anything. At least less trolly. Which mayor candidate was going to lynch Ciryandor? I thought Protactinium settled on Macpo. The Palmar lynch influence is a red mark but there was a plausible narrative based on Sandro's posts in the thread and the mason log.

Still not sure about Sandroba personally. I found a couple of his other town games: His LotR (town) filter looks much like his scum play, which this game does too, but his Mini Mafia X (town) posting was vastly superior. Actual care and effort put into posting. If he doesn't raise his game here I'll consider voting for him.

On January 19 2012 11:59 Protactinium wrote:
bumatlarge. His apathetic posting and general lack of enthusiasm is strikingly different from his usual active town play.

This meta-read is beyond me. Any other vets want to comment on Bum?



I would agree with the meta read on bum primarily because he actually tries to contribute to town discussion and scumhunting when he is town. So far he (like most players in this game) has done very little.

Bum also tends to shy away from spotlight when he is scum. This is very unlike his play, for example, from steamship or any other game where he is town.


Wut? I don't shy away from the spotlight -_-! I wasn't able to post as much as I would like, but I keep up with the thread and stay active. There is little doubt in my mind that bill and meapak are scum.

On January 19 2012 15:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On January 19 2012 15:23 bumatlarge wrote:
Meapak is clearly scum. His GGQ push is just one big crutch for him. Just read his last two posts.

##Vote meapak_ziphh

Hey bum glad you decided to start playing.

Actually let's just get this out of the way. Can anyone who is suspicious of me please vote for me now? I'd like to get a headcount so I can address all your concerns. I've seen my name thrown out a couple times and I'm baffled so if you'd just do that we can put this to rest once and for all.

Now bum. You say my case is one giant crutch. Do you agree or disagree with my case? Why is it a crutch? I've shared plenty of other reads. True I haven't persued any to lynch but that's because I feel GGQ is the best option. I already promised that tomorrow I would have an analysis of opz. Other than a spat with toad I've helped keep the thread on track. Besides, GGQ isn't the only thing I've posted a lot about. I've also worked against lynching protact and sandroba. You call me out for being willing to vote with protact/foolishness. Why not? They've collectively called out three confirmed scum and I agree with the majority of their reads. Is it scummy to agree with someone who's making sense?

Now let's contrast that with you bum. You've done nothing since day one. You ran a halfassed campaign for mayor, you were missing from the discussion yesterday. Other than me what are you reads? You don't even have a proper case against me, just a lame little "clearly scum becuz crutch" which as I've pointed out makes no sense. Please reread the thread and figure out what's going on bum because at the moment you have zero credibility.

Alright next!


I'm happy to have struck a chord. GGQ is more or less irrelevant compared to you. I would make an effort to assess GGQ if you flipped town. As I seriously doubt that, I don't think GGQ would be a great bus at this point, so I would go with town if you are scum. GGQ is still in a bad position if you flip before him, so I would argue against his lynch.

If my posts really look like I'm not putting effort into them, I'll try harder to better them. meapak's post does nothing but make me more suspicious though, so as far as I'm concerned at the moment, he's the best lynch.
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January 19 2012 22:27 GMT
#2714
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 17 2012 11:56 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 11:15 Foolishness wrote:
On January 17 2012 11:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
EBWOP: I forgot to add Macpo to the FoS list.

Pretty interesting how you just mentioned Macpo now and decided to (almost) ignore him completely from the start of the game.

In fact I find it very very very interesting that you make a lot of posts like these...
On January 17 2012 07:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Nope hiro, we're lynching GGQ today. You don't have a very strong case against sandroba and neither do any of the other jubjubs calling for his death right now. We lynch GGQ today, tomorrow we lynch any of the people who have popped out of the woodwork to defend him.

Also for those viewers who are keeping track back home, I'm working my way through the filters of the players I talked about in my post last night, I should have something on who is who in a few hours.

...while choosing to ignore a lynch candidate who is under attack from arguably the 2 best scumhunters in this game.

Hey Incog, I found another mafia!


Bingo. Through day 1, when people were going on about being distracted, I started thinking on people who were abusing this to no end, getting their fingers in every pie, and takng zero risk in putting themselves out there.

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On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

I don’t like Kitaman because he says he’s not the strongest town player and I want to elect the strongest mayor possible. He also cites his activity as a reason to be elected but like I said earlier, everyone should be active. Kita does say some good things, if the people who I consider stronger players than kita don’t run or look scummy to me, I’d not be opposed to having kita as my sheriff.

Bum is a really bad vote. Insane 2 is a good example, another good example is responsibility where kita (the mafia) almost convinced him to mislynch. My point is that bum can be swayed and isn’t the most reliable person to have for mayor. I want a mayor who I can be sure will not be swayed by mafia. Also, I really dislike bum claiming (or at least hinting) blue.

I don’t like Mr. Wiggles, his reasoning is basically, “every mayor post will sound the same so vote for me.” While it’s true that mayor posts do sound similar, they put the candidate in the spotlight, and even if the candidate doesn’t get elected, they still have to play by the values they espoused because they publicly said that’s how they’d play.

Just because Foolishness is good does not make Bill Murray a good vote. While foolishness is known for random trolling in the first few days, this is just completely ridiculous. While it’s great that BM says he wants to scum hunt and all, I want to elect someone who I’ve seen evidence of good scum hunting and I haven’t seen that from BM (in fairness, I didn’t have the greatest opportunity, however I’m still going to stick with players I know are good).

Risk.nuke does the same thing as kita and says he isn’t the best townie, he also says he’s lost interest a few times but swears he won’t do it this game. Famous last words… No offense risk but this isn’t very compelling.

Protactinium has one post saying he’ll lynch ciryandor. Not very compelling, maybe that’ll change when he posts more.

Out of all the candidates so far, BloodyC0bbler is the one who made the most sense and I would vote for to be my sheriff. He and Bum are both claiming to do a lot of the same thing, however bum (as I said before) can be swayed and manipulated. BC also willing accepts the spotlight which is good and he doesn’t over promise what he can deliver. Bum talks about organizing the town, BC says what he’d do. Subtle but important difference which means without further ado:

##Vote: BloodyC0bbler

I’d love to have you be my sheriff :D




Now after all that let’s get to why I would make a good mayor. For one thing, I am a good scum hunter. I can claim credit for at least two scum lynches and two successful vigi shots in a recent time frame. My town play is extremely solid and you can count on me to be analyzing and posting throughout the game. While I hate to use this as a reason since I ragged on people earlier for doing it, I’d also like to point out that my scum play is pretty atrocious as evidenced by my
performance in the last pyp game.

As mayor, I will be constantly scum hunting. Now mayor doesn’t magically give a license to scum hunt, I'll be owning scum hard whether I'm elected or not, it’s the protection I’m looking for. I would like to be able to kill as many scum as possible and that’ll be difficult if I die night one. Electing a mayor is a lot about choosing who will survive the nights, that’s why it’s important to have a townie AND a good player because the longer that player can survive the better. This is why a) I don’t want to vote for people who consider themselves only middling town player and b) why I want BC to be sheriff.

Anyway, those are my reasons for getting elected, now on to scum hunting. I’d like everyone to take a quick look at these posts by GGQ:

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
On January 13 2012 15:22 Ciryandor wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.

LOL that's a good reason to get you voted in. Lynching someone for having an opinion.


Your posts have been very bad so far.


On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.


On January 13 2012 15:32 GGQ wrote:
Also voting for BM because he is BM is really dumb. He should be treated like any other player, we don't need metagame arguments/discussions about him clogging up the thread. Don't vote for him, stop discussing him until he posts, then talk about his posts. Thanks you.


These two posts are extremely bad for town. The first one is bad because he just calls out these people without giving a reason for why their posts were bad. If you’re going to call people out (as I’m doing right now) say why you’re doing it. In fact I’d like to make that clear real quick: If you are town, give reasons when you call people out. There’s absolutely no reason not to share your thoughts. The second post is bad because it contradicts itself and is pretty useless all in all.

Nisani does the same thing:

On January 13 2012 16:18 Nisani201 wrote:
All the mayor candidates suck.

Although Nisani later clarifies this post as to why he doesn’t like the candidates, it would have been way better if he had just done that in the first place rather than make a blanket statement.

Please please please refrain from making these sorts of posts. If you’re gonna say something is bad, tell us why. This goes for everyone and it’d be great if we had a game where everyone explained stuff when they posted it. Also while we’re on the topic of bad posting, please keep these sorts of questions (@such and such, who do you think about so and so?) to a minimum. They serve no purpose. Questions are powerful tools when used correctly; however mindlessly asking people random questions is a great way for scum to appear active and contributing. So let’s as a town just agree not to do this mkay.

I don’t have much else to say at the moment. In anticipation of all the “@Mayor candidate: who would you lynch and why?” posts I’ll just say at the moment I’d lynch GGQ based on what I wrote above, however it’s only like a few hours into the game and not everybody has even checked in yet so I think it’s too early start calling for people’s deaths. However, now is a perfect time for:

FOS: GGQ

Gonna match actions to words.

K I’m going to sleep. I’ll be around tomorrow so I’ll address whatever comes up then.


Reading this again, I can't really find a bigger offender of this then meapak. Especially for a vet, he hits all the safe keys (dropping down his vote and his suspicions). I'll bold more examples of "safe keys".

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On January 14 2012 05:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Wow lots happened while I was asleep Alright let's talk BC's claim.

BC's claim is actually pretty brilliant in my eye and here's why. Before claiming, BC was easily one of the top three candidates for mayor if not the top one. There's little doubt in my mind that BC would have gotten one of the elected positions. Now he could always claim once elected, however that's not a pressure position. He's got bodyguards and immunity from dt checks so there's no danger of dying if he's town, or being found out if he's scum.

However by claiming mid day like this it instantly puts a HUGE amount of pressure on him. All eyes are on him at the moment and his every action is being scrutinized. This is an extremely tough position to be in as scum. And so it begs the question, if BC is scum, what is the motivation for claiming like this? He had a great chance at being elected so why mess that up as scum?

With this claim BC is willingly taking the spotlight and the scrutiny. While he may be scum and have the biggest balls I've ever seen, I find it far more likely that he is doing his best to demonstrate his good intentions by willingly going on the hot seat. In conclusion, I can only think of town motives for claiming.

currently MIA: L, now would be a good time to start posting.

Things that are bad in a townie way: Palmar, I don't think you're scum but I'd appreciate if you put more effort into the game.

Things that are bad in a scummy way: People calling Palmar scum. Palmar is making himself a really easy target with his blatantly bad posting, it doesn't take much to call someone who's posting like him out. It's people trying to score townie points by looking like they're standing up and acting town when in reality they're just going after something that costs them no skin off their back.
Note this doesn't apply to people who have simply asked Palmar to play better (like me lol) I'm instead talking about the people who were like "zomfg lynch palmar."
On January 14 2012 18:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
mkay wow a lot happened. I just wanna address the Mattchew candidacy.

This is a tough call. On one hand, it is possible that mattchew is town. But the only evidence we have of this is foolishness's word, and with foolishness's actions so far I don't put too much stalk in it. For one, I find it really odd that foolishness would out a blue role just like that, he should know better than that. Another reason is that mattchew seems way too eager to claim confirmed town. At this point in the game it's impossible to know. There's a very real possibility that scum would mason foolishness to try and find out if he's on to them. Ultimately though, trying to determine mattchew's alignment comes down to WIFOM which could get endless.

I would feel better about the whole mattchew thing if he took his position and tried to play protown with it however most of his posts since announcing his candidacy have been talking about how he is confirmed which he isn't.

Anyway at this point I still feel pretty good about BC despite protact's analysis. Other people who are making sense atm are kita and to a lesser extent WBG. I disagree with WBG that Palmar is scum, I thought I knew what Palmar was trying to do with his bad posting but if he doesn't come in and capitalize on it within the next 12 hours or so I'll be more inclined to think he's scum.

I would still love to see L post, I also want more out of GGQ who has done absolutely nothing so far, in terms of lynch I still feel very good about GGQ because I think he fits the lurking scum profile. He's been in the thread but his posts have not been protown and since I'm the only person who seriously called him out he's been able to slip into obscurity.



There is no content in meapak's posts, unless he specifically prefaces his posts to do so. I'm pretty sure that's a little scum-habit, because I don't remember seeing any of this in responsibility, but he was a sub for chezinu. Why didn't we make foolishness mayor lol?


GGQ is not a big voice in the thread. I think, at best, he is worth a DT or vig hit at the moment. Someone like bill murray is worth a lynch, or someone like meapak

I'm honestly curious why you think he is town this game. I really think he is outright lying about catching any scum this game. Also, I'd like to call under question BC's alignment. I don't think GGQ would be as great an indicator as meapak. If meapak is town, then I oubt BC is scum. I find the opposite to be very likely if meapak flips scum.

It's roughly all I have at the moment -_-, so I guess people have provided stronger analysis on other players to be lynched. I just want to make sure people know where my fingers are if something happens to me.
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January 19 2012 22:32 GMT
#2716
If you really think VE is scum at this point, we might not be in as good a position as I initially thought
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January 21 2012 01:31 GMT
#3153
So we are ok with lynching sandroba the townie and not meapak the scum? And we are jumping off BM? Not if I can help it. BM and kingjames are extremely reasonable lynch choices, but sandroba instead of BM sounds like scum work. I'm especially surprised at Protact. It seems like extremely selfish to just stop lynching someone because they say they have a bomb on you. I would like an actually good reason to take my vote off of BM aside from the off chance that you would die. I have had very little doubt that BM was scum this game even after all the votes piled on to him. But protact's stunt has me guessing. I'd like thoughts on this, because I'm not sure if it's better to actual lynch BM and call him out on this, or to not lynch him because he has a strong likelyhood of being town. DO NOT LYNCH SANDROBA.
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January 21 2012 01:34 GMT
#3157
Yeah I just saw that :/ well I can't really argue against that. If sandroba's scum well then good, but if he's town I TOLD YOU SO.
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January 21 2012 02:20 GMT
#3184
On January 21 2012 11:15 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 10:57 p4NDemik wrote:
Toad it seems pretty clear to me he had just missed reading the new post. He reference's Protact's gambit but has nothing about this dt news. Mafia wouldn't ignore this.


I am very well aware of that fact. Still if sandroba flips red there's bound to be a couple of mafias that are not willing to lynch sandroba. But there's no good in discussing this right now. I should not have brought it up at all, I just wanted to make sure you guys all look at stuff like that and try to take notes of who is and especially WAS voting who. That's going to be crucial information after the flip.


Meh I think it's worth saying, I really think sandroba would have been a much more serious mafia. If he's mafia, I'll take whatever FoS comes with that. I just think jumping on to him from BM speaks volumes about our town.
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January 21 2012 02:30 GMT
#3186
On January 21 2012 11:23 p4NDemik wrote:
VE sorry that you are getting lost in the shuffle but you have to keep it in check you aren't building credibility by going nuclear here, just look at kingjames for an example of what that kind of posting gets you.


Mhmm... /stinkeye
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January 21 2012 03:16 GMT
#3232
Not what I was expecting
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January 21 2012 03:57 GMT
#3260
On January 21 2012 12:50 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm not taking a bomb off
I'm either putting another bomb out, or jailing to try to protect someone like a medic like if someone like Foolishness was just a townie, I could jailkeep them for 2 nights to guarantee they get to late game. That is more valuable. I am 50% protactinium is scum based on the election - it's either him or BC. I'm not moving that bomb, unless we're lynching BC.


While I have my suspicions of protact as well, I am fairly sure BC is scum from sandroba flipping scum. If BC is scum, Protact is pretty assuredly not scum. Give this a bit more thought BM.
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January 21 2012 04:05 GMT
#3263
And for those who are suspicious of me, it feels deserved. I made a bad read and banked on it. I don't think it hurt the town at all, so I'd implore you to look at it from my perspective as a townie. The 3 vets switching from BM to sandroba was the right call, and my neurotic side did not like it. I'll try to improve my play to whats expected of me soon. No more dumb factors
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January 21 2012 04:07 GMT
#3264
On January 21 2012 13:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
No you're moving the bomb. The only reason you're not dead right now is because you had the town by the balls with your bomb. Leaving the bomb confirms the idea that you made up the claim to save your life. If you want to be protown you will move the bomb. Yes that means people may try and lynch you tomorrow however you have my word I will not lynch you until both bombs are placed (and they're where I want them).

Move it to brownbear tonight or you die tomorrow (yes you die ahead of GGQ *gasp).


Why brownbear? I know you said I should be the other target, so I'd prefer it be him, but I didn't see anyone explain why BB is scummy?
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January 21 2012 04:17 GMT
#3267
On January 21 2012 13:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 13:07 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 21 2012 13:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
No you're moving the bomb. The only reason you're not dead right now is because you had the town by the balls with your bomb. Leaving the bomb confirms the idea that you made up the claim to save your life. If you want to be protown you will move the bomb. Yes that means people may try and lynch you tomorrow however you have my word I will not lynch you until both bombs are placed (and they're where I want them).

Move it to brownbear tonight or you die tomorrow (yes you die ahead of GGQ *gasp).


Why brownbear? I know you said I should be the other target, so I'd prefer it be him, but I didn't see anyone explain why BB is scummy?

BrownBear has done F all this game, he shares the antipathy trait found in every mafia killed so far. Why bother lynching when you can bomb? The reason I said him over you is because you suddenly got a lot more active so maybe there's hope for you and also because I feel like lynching you would be a better death since if you're scum I have a feeling they'd be pretty desperate to save you given the hits they're taking.


:D
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January 22 2012 03:49 GMT
#3433
Well this should be a humdinger of a day.

@kita
Yeah OpZ mason'd me.

+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From ~OpZ~:
I think VE is scum

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Original Message From bumatlarge:
ur pushin it bro lol

Meapak is pretty assuredly scum, I'll post something in a bit.

Original Message From ~OpZ~:
lol

You said you wanted to be mason'd, so I did.

Who you think is scum, scumatlarge, messin with you :D

Original Message From bumatlarge:
I swear if another person says that word I will punch them through the internet. Well, I'm glad you mason'd me, but so far you are the only one who has. Why did you, not to sound ungrateful.

Original Message From ~OpZ~:
Hey look it's scumatlarge


I didn't get to respond to him after that. Sorry Opz, left you hanging. I still hold on to meapak being scum, with GGQ having flipped town.
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January 22 2012 23:19 GMT
#3670
@pandemic

I think you need to re-think your process here. BC is not a priority because we aren't sure he is scum. BM is VERY LIKELY to be scum, across the boards. Seeing protact flip town really makes killed any skepticism I had on BM being town. The BC lynch has not arrived at the station yet, so stop running around the tracks shouting "ITS COMING COMING I CAN SEE IT" when the bill murray lynch is parked on your leg. BM now, maybe BC later.
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January 22 2012 23:22 GMT
#3672
On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.


I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.
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January 22 2012 23:25 GMT
#3673
Oh, he was roleblocked? Lol hiro, something you want to tell us buddy
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January 22 2012 23:43 GMT
#3677
On January 23 2012 08:35 jaj22 wrote:
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On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.

Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case.

Oh, well he should give the name, and that person should confirm he is just vanilla. That seems pretty obvious. If I got a check on a medic or same thing, I'd probably say the same thing as hiro.
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January 22 2012 23:52 GMT
#3681
On January 23 2012 08:38 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 23 2012 08:25 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, he was roleblocked? Lol hiro, something you want to tell us buddy

he was rb'ed n3 if I understood it correct.

Found sandroba n1
Found a blue n2
roleblocked n3

Obviosuly I don't know if he checked sandroba n1 or n2 (neither do I know if he claimed which night it was by heart). If he did not check roba n1 it's vice versa. Nevertheless, don't tell the name

On January 23 2012 08:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 23 2012 08:35 jaj22 wrote:
On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.

Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case.


One less VT to shoot is one shot more likely to hit power roles.


im not sure if this is intentionally bad reasoning or not...
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January 23 2012 04:12 GMT
#3711
On January 23 2012 12:43 p4NDemik wrote:
this is not the first time I have been accused of tunneling why does this keep coming up

I have provided analysis on more players in this game than anyone. I've has more guts than anyone else in making logical arguments for the existence of multiple other mafia other than you. It should be obvious by now that I have been suspicious of you as mafia for some time now. Indeed if it was practical or I thought it was the right play yesterday I would have come at you. I was diametrically opposed to you all of the last day. Yet I did not tunnel you. I did not question you. I did not push for your lynch.

I set aside that suspicion and pushed for a handful of other lynches and was receptive to your ideas. But just because I am pushing you for a lynch now does not mean I am tunneling you. I have a bead and many other reads on a lot of other players and I have pointed out other potential mafia. I still advocate a lynch of BM, I just believe that we have a better play available today.

tunnel-vision is not considering anything or anyone outside of you. I am doing quite the opposite of that yet multiple people have made this fallback attack on me. i'd urge town that want productive conversation to consider the actual definition of the term and not throw this bs at me.


I agree with nearly everything you said, except about BC being scummier then BM. No one is ignoring you, just stop the yelling. Everything you refer in your mayor voting analysis favors BM as scum much more heavily then BC. One mafia has flipped on BC's wagon (though not many others were killed), but several are on bill's. Bill's comment on sandroba was so fleeting that I doubt he would follow through with it. Other then that, BM got pushed JUST as much as BC did.

All I'm saying is, we are on the stronger lynch path right now. BM is immediately hazardous as scum, while BC is more long term hazardous. BC has been very careful with his votes, so aside from Palmar and Kingjames, he has been on mafia. His 3x vote power has not been utilized effectively in favor of scum. Worst case scenario, if BM is town and BC is scum, they would still be 21 town votes to 9 mafia votes. Consistency is a huge boon for us, so we stay on BM, and then we can make a better assessment without BM still being a factor. A more focused discussion is a much better environment to convince others. There is no need to pour all this gravy before the second scoop of mash.
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January 23 2012 19:40 GMT
#3837
If someone starts doing crazy shit in thread with no real explanation as soon as they are about to be lynched, it probably means they are scum.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
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January 24 2012 02:28 GMT
#3972
Well that's interesting.

Bodyguard
You protect the elected roles. After the election concludes, two Bodyguards are randomly chosen from amongst the pool of Townies. Before Townies are randomly selected as bodyguards though, Mafia may elect to substitute any of their members in for Bodyguards. That means there may be 0, 1, or 2 Mafia acting as Bodyguards instead of townspeople. The town will not know who is selected as bodyguards, but the elected roles will. As long as you (the bodyguards) remain alive, elected roles cannot be killed during the night. However, Mafia bodyguards do not protect town-aligned elected roles! This means that if there are no town-aligned bodyguards left, town-aligned elected roles are in danger of death during the night phase. Town-aligned bodyguards chosen from the pool of Townies will show up as Bodyguards to role checks, and Mafia-aligned bodyguards will show up as Bodyguards regardless of any other powers they might possess.


It doesn't specifically state that BGs know they are BGs, but it does specifically say elected roles do.
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January 24 2012 03:04 GMT
#3993
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#4067
On January 24 2012 12:47 hiro protagonist wrote:
As many people have deduced in the thread, my n2 check came back blue. which is why I decided not to reveal the name. I am at work right now, so thats why my posts are brief. I will give a full explanation when i get home.


Oh, well then don't reveal. At all. If it was green, you obviously do, (maybe mason or vig you could reveal). But any other blue role I would keep secluded. IMO.

You did say it was green before. Was their reasoning for lying?
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January 24 2012 03:58 GMT
#4073
On January 24 2012 12:54 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 24 2012 12:50 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 24 2012 12:47 hiro protagonist wrote:
As many people have deduced in the thread, my n2 check came back blue. which is why I decided not to reveal the name. I am at work right now, so thats why my posts are brief. I will give a full explanation when i get home.


Oh, well then don't reveal. At all. If it was green, you obviously do, (maybe mason or vig you could reveal). But any other blue role I would keep secluded. IMO.

You did say it was green before. Was their reasoning for lying?

even if it's a green he should not have told us until right before deadline, unless of course that guy was up for lynch. No need in telling mafia who to shoot


No. If he checked a green, he needed to say who it was yesterday, because if he was lying we would know there is scum between two people. If hiro really was a DT and checked someone and they said he lied, we would have outed either another GF. If hiro was lying, we would only risk an actual vanilla role.

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January 24 2012 04:02 GMT
#4075
On January 24 2012 12:58 hiro protagonist wrote:
EBWOP:
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On January 24 2012 12:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 24 2012 12:47 hiro protagonist wrote:
As many people have deduced in the thread, my n2 check came back blue. which is why I decided not to reveal the name. I am at work right now, so thats why my posts are brief. I will give a full explanation when i get home.

All we need is a name and correct role. You should be able to do that quickly now and explain later.

as you wish, your a medic

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January 24 2012 04:34 GMT
#4086
On January 24 2012 13:33 Nisani201 wrote:
GG

finally i can breathe again lol
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January 24 2012 04:51 GMT
#4096
Call me crazy, but this was the last post of a VETERAN PLAYER WHO HAPPENS TO BE A DETECTIVE.

On January 22 2012 06:26 Protactinium wrote:
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On January 21 2012 17:33 Foolishness wrote:
Mafia list has to be something like:

Meapak, Munk-E, Bill Murray, evantrees, BrownBear, Kenpachi.

Substitute in glurio, Opz, EchelonTee, vaderseven, Slardar for the ones that flip town.

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On January 21 2012 17:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Foolishness amend the list please. I strongly believe atm WBG has a high chance of flipping red.

I would place glurio higher on your list. I also believe that based on play, opz is far more likely to be red.


Disagree here.

I don't see why Meapak is a strong case yet. I'm sticking with

Bill Murray
OpZ
bumatlarge

Don't see wbg either. His play fits his town play more than mafia even if he is wrong a lot.

Then go on to inactives.

I don't think Kenpachi is red based on L's statements suggesting that Kurumi shot Ciryandor. I'm going to guess that L truly did think Kurumi would shoot Kenpachi, and thus didn't roleblock him that night, but it backfired (nobody else claimed the Ciryandor shot). L also was pushing Kenpachi strangely, so it doesn't fit strongly in my book.

evantrees feels town to me for his earlier response to my accusation. It feels pretty spontaneous and unplanned.

Everyone else is fair game.

Bill Murray dies tomorrow, and we vote for double lynch. OpZ and bumatlarge die the next day.


gee i wonder if this should impact who i think is scum...
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January 24 2012 05:00 GMT
#4098
Oh and OPZ and I mason'd each other? lol read the PMs again.


On January 22 2012 12:49 bumatlarge wrote:
Well this should be a humdinger of a day.

@kita
Yeah OpZ mason'd me.

+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From ~OpZ~:
I think VE is scum

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Original Message From bumatlarge:
ur pushin it bro lol

Meapak is pretty assuredly scum, I'll post something in a bit.

Original Message From ~OpZ~:
lol

You said you wanted to be mason'd, so I did.

Who you think is scum, scumatlarge, messin with you :D

Original Message From bumatlarge:
I swear if another person says that word I will punch them through the internet. Well, I'm glad you mason'd me, but so far you are the only one who has. Why did you, not to sound ungrateful.

Original Message From ~OpZ~:
Hey look it's scumatlarge


I didn't get to respond to him after that. Sorry Opz, left you hanging. I still hold on to meapak being scum, with GGQ having flipped town.


Yeah, BC totally made up that IRC conversation pandemic, and this is completely legit, right?
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January 24 2012 05:03 GMT
#4101
On January 24 2012 14:03 p4NDemik wrote:
Foolishness you have a lot more explaining and scumhunting to do to get of the fucking hook. I'm very angry at you.

Town, I'm angry for you not pushing him farther than this:

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On January 24 2012 12:12 Foolishness wrote:
On January 24 2012 12:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 24 2012 12:08 Foolishness wrote:
On January 24 2012 12:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
also: Foolishness

What


what was all that BM bullshit on day 1?

Just trolling us?

If you look through my posts you'll see that I wanted to kill BM from very early in the game (maybe even as early as end of day 1 I may have said that).

There comes a time with a red-looking dirtbag has to meet his maker. Foolishness your time is nigh. Step up and give me more defense or die tomorrow.


sigh...
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January 24 2012 05:05 GMT
#4104
On January 24 2012 14:04 p4NDemik wrote:
BC only chats in irc with his fellow scum buddies like Foolishness.


PLease read the last page
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January 24 2012 05:07 GMT
#4108
Guys, I'm a medic, i protected kita night 1, VE night 2, and protact night 3.

We need to lynch BC
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January 24 2012 05:09 GMT
#4112
On January 24 2012 14:07 p4NDemik wrote:
Would you guys stop being pussies and push him instead of letting him off the hook after he posts a grand total of two lines?

I'm being melodramatic I know and I'm a bit caught up in the fact that 3 mafia just died but I haven't even voted for him to be hung yet. FFS guys. A whole game's worth of analysis and STICKING TO MY LYNCH vote of Bill two nights ago gets my eye rolls and disrespect?


alright alright, i see where you are coming from. ill vote bc tomorrow your analysis has convinced me.
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January 24 2012 05:10 GMT
#4116
On January 24 2012 14:09 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I masoned Nisani yesterday...

He told me something about Billy Cundiff and Kyle Williams....I didn't quite get it.


thats a lie, you mason'd bill yesterday. I know this because cwave mason me just now and told me he masond bill.
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January 24 2012 05:11 GMT
#4118
On January 24 2012 14:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 24 2012 14:07 bumatlarge wrote:
Guys, I'm a medic, i protected kita night 1, VE night 2, and protact night 3.

We need to lynch BC


Hey guys, we found a mafia for tommorrow. Wtf bum? why would you out yoruself -_-


oh my bad... let me fix it.

IM A MEDIC
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January 24 2012 05:13 GMT
#4124
On January 24 2012 14:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:


I demand opz be modkilled immediately this is his second offense.
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January 24 2012 05:14 GMT
#4128
On January 24 2012 14:13 ~OpZ~ wrote:
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On January 24 2012 14:11 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 24 2012 14:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 24 2012 14:07 bumatlarge wrote:
Guys, I'm a medic, i protected kita night 1, VE night 2, and protact night 3.

We need to lynch BC


Hey guys, we found a mafia for tommorrow. Wtf bum? why would you out yoruself -_-


oh my bad... let me fix it.

IM A MEDIC

Oh, And I'm a mason....wait...I am

Maybe you are medic?


hahahaha werent you suspicious when i was dissappointed that YOU had pm'ed me? Silly scum. better shoot me tonight. I Know cyber cheese has my back though.
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January 24 2012 05:15 GMT
#4130
On January 24 2012 14:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 24 2012 14:11 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 24 2012 14:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 24 2012 14:07 bumatlarge wrote:
Guys, I'm a medic, i protected kita night 1, VE night 2, and protact night 3.

We need to lynch BC


Hey guys, we found a mafia for tommorrow. Wtf bum? why would you out yoruself -_-


oh my bad... let me fix it.

IM A MEDIC


thats odd, VE claimed he used his vet power and saved his own life.

Hey kita? shed some light on your save yo.


I helped.
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January 24 2012 05:17 GMT
#4137
War is hell.

Bum was stuck in a trench. Commander L had been executed, and private ciryandor tried to climb over the hill, but the distance was too long. Poor guy was gunned down within seconds.
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January 24 2012 05:19 GMT
#4139
Bill started to go crazy, he started to scream. Sandroba told him to be quiet. But bill kept screaming. Like a hero, sandroba dived to push bill down, but his lifeless corpse was all that landed back in the trench.
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January 24 2012 05:20 GMT
#4143
Macpo had been a brave soul, slowly diggin his way, but the tunnel had collapsed. A horrible way to go.
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January 24 2012 05:21 GMT
#4144
Then the worst thing. Bill was still insane it would seem. He attempted to throw a grenade, but it rolled back down the hill, and killed him, schworz and munke. I still have BM's blood taste in my mouth.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 05:23 GMT
#4148
GG :D
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 05:33 GMT
#4168
I never masoned anyone. I got the ability at the end of day 1, so it would be tough to explain.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 05:37 GMT
#4173
yeah i shot everyone :D
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bumatlarge
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United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 05:38 GMT
#4177
except day 1, L did that.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 05:50 GMT
#4202
The most damning thing by far was the lack of communication. I never had a single conversation with L, Bill practically refused to talk in IRC and quicktopic beyond the first day, and sandroba came back drunk EVERY SINGLE DAY. And these are the "good" players on our team. I am dissappoint. I forgot to set a roleblocker and framer ngiht 2 (we were lucky i sent in kills). We would have been having a hell of a game our team decided to talk to each other. Shworz was a good player, i have no idea what happened to him yesterday. nisani and opz dont talk in the thread, even when they are active on irc :/ but at least they were talking with me.

Yet it was fun. thanks for the game FW and Jcarl
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 05:54 GMT
#4213
Flamewheel thats an awful lot of blues no scum jack for us?
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 05:58 GMT
#4223
On January 24 2012 14:57 flamewheel wrote:
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On January 24 2012 14:54 bumatlarge wrote:
Flamewheel thats an awful lot of blues no scum jack for us?

You had a solid (on paper) team with insane Mafia powers... When has a Mafia team in a standard game had 6 power roles?

SCUM MASONS SUCK BOOOOOOOO
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 06:00 GMT
#4228
On January 24 2012 14:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 24 2012 14:58 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 24 2012 14:57 flamewheel wrote:
On January 24 2012 14:54 bumatlarge wrote:
Flamewheel thats an awful lot of blues no scum jack for us?

You had a solid (on paper) team with insane Mafia powers... When has a Mafia team in a standard game had 6 power roles?

SCUM MASONS SUCK BOOOOOOOO


No, scum masons are broken as fuck


fine you get the three scum masons next game. I'll be scum jack
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 06:02 GMT
#4232
I think you qualify as a good player this game if you didnt get modkilled. :D
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 06:10 GMT
#4253
I didn't want to be a lurky scum this game, but every day I checked in, it was every townie pointing in a different direction convinced they were right. I would have attempted to deter some scumlynched, but I didn't think I could do it by myself. I did try it and the sandroba lynch, but I think thats evidence to how much power we had over anything.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2012 07:27 GMT
#4300
Sounds more like MTG cards.

When foolishness enters the field, name a player. All players vote that player.
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United States4567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 09:14:03
January 24 2012 09:07 GMT
#4318
On January 24 2012 16:56 ~OpZ~ wrote:
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On January 24 2012 16:27 bumatlarge wrote:
Sounds more like MTG cards.

When foolishness enters the field, name a player. All players vote that player.

The only thing lacking in this post is "It's super effective!"

Maybe that can be his quote line?


Of course!


On January 24 2012 17:30 evantrees wrote:
QT was worth the read to me.
Also happy I guessed right about bum being a mason, even if he technically got it after.
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Butmatlarge
mason, wants to start early getting in contact with another, potentially mafia though

Probably favorite post from the obs QT.
"honestly I think that scum team has realized how terrible this is going and has decided to bus like everyone playing shitty on their team.

God if foolishness is scum I could see him winning this game by himself"


You definitely had it right, but we distributed roles so late that i wasnt sure mason was worth the suspicion. Then I changed to being a medic, which I was ready to counter claim verse the medic. Never came to fruition. I did claim blue in my campaign.

By the by, page 205 onward was alot of fun.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 25 2012 01:27 GMT
#4385
On January 25 2012 06:38 L wrote:
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On January 24 2012 23:38 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 24 2012 23:34 L wrote:
Annnnd back on hiatus.

You're safe. I only had 1 bullet.

Full retard team is scarier than bullets.


Come now L, you didn't even realize the game had started til day one was practically over.
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