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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 02:54 GMT
#3202
On January 21 2012 11:53 Munk-E wrote:
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So, this time, I'm going to vote for sandroba, and bill murray.

Here's why BM

On January 18 2012 19:02 Bill Murray wrote:
GG scum
we lynch Protactinium and BC tomorrow and we are guaranteed 1 scum, bringing their KP down

starting after my last analysis of him, we have this post.

not much analysis here, I just think it's pretty funny.

It's a point that he keeps asserting that one of the candidates had to be scum, but he never mentions that it's actually him.
He's just getting greedy trying to get them both lynched.

On January 19 2012 14:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I didn't get to send in anything last night, and I'm like 80 pages behind on reading
I don't mind being lynched
I've failed you all as a Sheriff

good to know, And I agree with you, you HAVE failed us.

On January 19 2012 14:20 Bill Murray wrote:
sorry to spam, guys, but my GF is here so I won't be able to be back on any more tonight
I wish you all the best if you lynch me, GG, and I hope you all lynch the right one between BC and Protactinium, unless mafia didn't run for election, and something weird is going on like Foolishness pushing on the best scumhunters at random intervals like I did in Hesmyrr's mini theme.

again, he seems convinced here that he's going to die, and doesn't mind it. The situation doesn't look good for mafia, and he's very resigned in his posting after last night when GF died, and only 2 mafia shots hit.

On January 19 2012 14:33 Bill Murray wrote:
I agree with KingJames

The mafia are making moves on scumhunters. This is either BC, Foolishness, or Incognito's handywork. I am not going to sit by and watch this happen. I know 4 people who I believe to be town due to role related information. Take that as you will. I really don't need to be dying today.

I don't think mafia subbed BGs, or I'd be dead, and they wouldn't be wasting their time lynching me. I'm a jailkeeper to them at the least, and dangerous, as I am a protown power role even if I don't have another role.

However, I actually HAVE another role.

I am a Mad Hatter, but I only have one bomb out. You all need to allow me at least tonight so that I can get maximum utility out of my role. Thanks. I'll be on tomorrow.


This is just sad. He's so desperate, he doesn't know what to do. It took him this long to think of an idea that might not get him lynched, and just said it. No crumbing or anything. Pleading isn't going to make me believe, especially after his previous posts when he was so resigned.


On January 20 2012 10:48 Bill Murray wrote:
I've got to vote kingjames, even if I have a townslip from him;
I KNOW I'm a mad hatter, he could be a townie
sandroba needs rope really badly
My one bomb is on Protactinium, so when I'm lynched, I guess he's coming with me
My Night 1 was jailing Lanaia, and then I was going to fake that I "derped" on the next 2 nights
Why else would I jailkeep N1? It was a bad idea in retrospect, but I thought I would either die N1 if BC was mafia, or I would have until BrownBear and Kitaman were alive.

Cwave masoned me yesterday
Jitsu masoned me yesterday
one of BC or OpZ are probably mafia
GG guys I'm dead in an hour if you all don't unvote and there goes the sheriff


As stated before, protac seems like the most town to me, and even BM says he thinks BC is scum, so even if he is hatter (which he's not) He's not trying to kill scum, he's doing the most scummy thing imaginable: he's taking hostages so we don't lynch him. Well no he's not, there's no way he's actually a hatter, he just saw a chance at surviving and is taking it.

On January 20 2012 18:14 Bill Murray wrote:
I am going to be reading after GSL, and I live in the Eastern time zone. This should prove to you all how much I want the Teamliquid town to improve. It takes individual growth for us to grow as a team.

I'm not 100% sure what to make of this... Aparently, GSL fan = townie? Somehow, I imagine that the mafia can be a fan of StarCraft 2 also...

Or is he claiming he's town because he plans on eventually reading the thread? Does that help his individual growth?

I'm probably looking into this too much, and he was just drunk or something, but it genuinely confuses me what he meant.

On January 21 2012 07:17 Bill Murray wrote:
First off, I'm going to throw out a disclaimer that self meta is generally worthless. However, I am the king of self meta, for what it is worth. As the mafia GF, when Incognito (he is playing on the name Protactinium) was on my team, I really slipped into obscurity, but I was actually VERY active out of the thread. It's the same when I was an assassin and killed BloodyC0bbler as he killed me, causing no assassins to win whatsoever, and I was out of the thread entirely. I have been posting in the thread on d2 and d3, though. When I'm mafia, if I'm going into lurking mode, I post way less frequently than I'm posting - sorry for the WIFOM - but it's true.

I know people change, trust me on that, but how can we grow as a town unless you all let me help you? I have not one, but TWO abilities for the town, and you all are thinking of canning me? Why'd you elect me?

I'll tell you why I don't want to lynch kingjames. The game I was looking into the other day where he was endgamed and Jackal was scum is very similar to this one, and he was a townie in that one.


I know this is a big topic, but changing styles from game to game is very easy, especially when you define posting style as how often you post. I'm guessing this has been discussed tons of times before, but especially in this case, where he's pointing out the difference.

Also, I'm confused as to why he's voting kingjames if he keeps saying he's town.

Then he has a bunch of posts about his plans as hatter. It really is convienent, It's a roly that makes him sound not worthless, yet is inconfirmable be everyone. Kudos to him for thinking of it, and shame on anyone for believing it.

Doing sandroba next.

Don't bother, he's up for modkills
Choose another person, and fast.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 03:17 GMT
#3234
Well my reads seem to suck this game...
Could have sworn Chaosquo was sure-fire..
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 03:18 GMT
#3236
On January 21 2012 12:17 Toadesstern wrote:
TOLD YA GUYS.

Thx for bitchslapping me left and right the last 2 days because my case on sandroba was retarded.

Consider myself, VE and hiro to be confirmed townies from now on. I'd very much like to get us 3 on the list of protection as well because if mafia shoots one of us that's making the next lynch a little bit harder for you because we're confirmed imo.

Have you ever heard of reads being too accurate? And look how much you flaunt it so...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 03:34 GMT
#3249
On January 21 2012 12:29 p4NDemik wrote:
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On January 21 2012 12:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 21 2012 12:17 Toadesstern wrote:
TOLD YA GUYS.

Thx for bitchslapping me left and right the last 2 days because my case on sandroba was retarded.

Consider myself, VE and hiro to be confirmed townies from now on. I'd very much like to get us 3 on the list of protection as well because if mafia shoots one of us that's making the next lynch a little bit harder for you because we're confirmed imo.

Have you ever heard of reads being too accurate? And look how much you flaunt it so...

Speaking of reads being too accurate is anyone concerned about the unbelievable predictive powers of our triumvirate concerning the sandroba lynch? The quick switch after past rebuttals feels like a possible bus of an expendable teammate. Very plausible that after almost half a day into the cycle and no responses someone may take the initiative to capitalize on a player who otherwise has no value.

kingjames as I said before doesn't tell us much. i think most of us are baffled by his play. real headscratcher and we're really going to have to dig hard to find mafia hiding in this bandwagon i feel like.

for now, i'm spent gl in your night actions fellas, chose wisely and keep in mind what we've seen go down today. i'll see yall on the flipside.

Oh shit that townie BM is going to take me down with him? Suddenly makes more sense I suppose.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 11:31 GMT
#3294
On January 21 2012 12:38 Jitsu wrote:
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On January 21 2012 12:36 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 21 2012 12:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 21 2012 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
hmm I shouldn't have voted kingjames, he was playing too much like he did in XLVIII; just randomly bringing up people for lynch who had no chance of actually dying.

With that said, I want to take a closer look at bum because of how hard he defended sandro. I also still want to look at Toad because something still is weird about him. Bussing sandro isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, because sandro has 0 confidence in his scum play. It has happened before, even.

Thus, we should be careful with what types of conclusions we draw in retrospect about the sandro lynch. Sandro getting bussed was a very likely possibility.


Why not take a look into risk.nuke if people who defended Sand are on your radar? He HARD defended Sand in one of his LAST posts. Did you miss that one? Why bum with his soft defend?


cause soft-defending is more indicative of scum than hard defending. If you hard defend someone you get a fuck ton of attention when you're wrong. Bum is just kinda sliding around doing nothing.


On January 21 2012 12:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 21 2012 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
hmm I shouldn't have voted kingjames, he was playing too much like he did in XLVIII; just randomly bringing up people for lynch who had no chance of actually dying.

With that said, I want to take a closer look at bum because of how hard he defended sandro. I also still want to look at Toad because something still is weird about him. Bussing sandro isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, because sandro has 0 confidence in his scum play. It has happened before, even.

Thus, we should be careful with what types of conclusions we draw in retrospect about the sandro lynch. Sandro getting bussed was a very likely possibility.


You voted for KJ because he was playing the way he was in a game where he was town? You get RIGHT out of town bro. You GET OUT! GET OUT OF TOWN WBG!!


he was dead either way, I wanted to ensure he flipped because I've been wrong quite a bit this game.

At any rate I reassured myself that my meta reads aren't all shit, so at least that's good.

We should definitely look into the people who voted KJ through the day for bad reasons, though. This group is bound to have scum in it because they could have been trying to keep sandro alive.


Could it be possible Mafia was pushing it as well to waste out double lynch? Maybe we were onto a second solid candidate and they wanted that bandwagon to roll because they A. knew he wasn't coming back and B. wanted us to not have a decent second vote.

I don't really regret using the lynch on Sandroba now I think about it, he could have voted last second and survived.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 11:51 GMT
#3297
On January 21 2012 19:56 Jayjay54 wrote:
We actually might consider L being the scum candidate. He ended up being godfather, so apparently scum wanted to give him DT immunitiy. If L was the red candidate and just couldn't get the leverage behind his campaing...

Or, they already had a candidate who would be immune to DT checks anyway

On January 19 2012 14:11 Bill Murray wrote:
I didn't get to send in anything last night, and I'm like 80 pages behind on reading
I don't mind being lynched
I've failed you all as a Sheriff

On January 21 2012 12:09 Bill Murray wrote:
I've used night actions both nights

On January 21 2012 12:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I jailkeeped lanaia and I put a bomb on mystlord

On January 21 2012 12:50 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm not taking a bomb off
I'm either putting another bomb out, or jailing to try to protect someone like a medic like if someone like Foolishness was just a townie, I could jailkeep them for 2 nights to guarantee they get to late game. That is more valuable. I am 50% protactinium is scum based on the election - it's either him or BC. I'm not moving that bomb, unless we're lynching BC.

Inconsistencies much?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 18:36 GMT
#3348
yo BC, the logs with VE would be awesome plz
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 23:03 GMT
#3382
On January 22 2012 07:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG's town beta is based on drawing logical conclusions based on evidence from checks/flips. His game this game is to jump to conclusions based on meta. This game is NOT like his standard town meta aside from him being jerky toward anyone who questions/suspects him. You're being obtuse Protact, and I think you're better than this. Look again bro.

Now you mention it... Has he made ANY lists based off the votes/flips yet?
I remember him using them heavily in Steamship...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 23:42 GMT
#3388
At everyone who is making one post, very late into the night.
If you ladies actually feel like helping town, instead of making one big post with all your reads a few seconds before the deadline, interact with us, even if it is night time.
In my experiences so far, scum actually tend to do the whole one post thing more often than town, because it allows for questions and the like.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 23:42 GMT
#3389
EBWOP
town, because it doesn't allow for
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 02:11 GMT
#3398
I just realised, I've been using this
On January 15 2012 00:41 L wrote:
1) There are a LOT of mayoral candidates. Many of them seem to have prepared their candidacy prior to the game. Candidacies prepared prior to the game don't give us any information (insofar as submitting candidature goes) because they are done in the absence of role or alignment information. The surplus of candidates as well as the pre-prepared quality of many indicates that candidacy itself is devalued in this game.


to dismiss this
On January 13 2012 14:36 Foolishness wrote:
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[image loading]


This is my official campaign post!

It is all very simple! No, I am not running for office. My campaign is based around voting for the one and only Bill Murray!

Let's face it, there are many people (L) who are going to run on the basis of lynching Bill Murray. Do we want to make such a rash decision this early in the game? Time has shown that such policy lynches are just a distraction from our true purpose of scum hunting. In order to save Bill Murray from such an easy day 1 lynch, I propose we save him by putting him in office.

Now before you go on making propositions that I have just smoked a pound of weed, consider the situation our beloved Bill Murray is in. As his first game back, we know for sure he's going to be top notch. This is his chance to prove to the old members that he's changed and proved to the new members that he's a respectable player. Thus we can expect him to bust out his A+ game. He knows that if he nails a few mafia this game he'll have turned from village idiot into village hottie.

Who would you rather have in office? Someone like Bill Murray who is probably spending 14 hours a day figuring out who is mafia or someone like kitaman27 or bumatlarge who will just put forth the same normal effort we'd expect from an elected official? Bill Murray is the real deal, and we know he'll be the real deal. Who knows how much effort Cyber_Cheese really wants to put in this game. Definitely not as much as Bill Murray will!

A vote for Bill Murray is a vote for the town!

Now what if our esteemed actor turns out to be mafia? Don't worry, as a proven scumhunter, I will dedicate enormous amounts of my time to making sure Bill Murray is indeed town. And he has a lot of games under his belt for comparison. Of course I will also be doing my usual scumhunting, so do not fret. But we can be sure that Bill Murray will be posting frequently (hopefully not too much) and will be active in his duties, especially given what I've said above. Is kitaman only going to make 2 posts a day if he gets elected in? Maybe. Will Bill Murray? No of course not. And we all know that the more someone posts the more likely their true colors show. If Bill Murray turns out to be mafia it shouldn't be long before it becomes obvious. If he's not, we got an easily confirmed innocent in office who at the very least will make the entire mafia team facepalm. And a mafia team with their palms on their faces will be unable to type.

[image loading]

You can make the right choice! Vote Bill Murray!
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Yes I'm 100% serious
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 10:40 GMT
#3533
On January 22 2012 12:10 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 12:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 22 2012 12:06 Toadesstern wrote:
Mr. meapak. didn't you call me scum because I was trying to safe a scumbuddy when proposing to lynch Sandroba d1/d2 and said that the sandroba case is nothing but a poor defence to safe GGQs ass?
After macpo flipped you even told people to look into people who tried to safe macpo by proposing to lynch Sandroba because Sandroba clearly was just a distraction and you still pushing GGQ while people were switching to macpo was fine.

I don't want to make this sound OMGUS but you need to die.


lol this is like the most forced and set up thing I've ever seen

If Meapak was scum why the fuck would he shoot GGQ and deprive himself of his only target? It's wifomy but I seriously doubt he would tunnel the same guy for like 72 hours and then turn around and allow his team to shoot the guy.


didn't you say 1 page ago that if GGQ flips green we have to insta-lynch meapak? How did you change your mind so fast?

You saw the GGQ-Meapak thing, plan around shooting GGQ, and get offended that he didn't push Meapak.
Not to mention, every single one of your reads is correct, and you rub it in continuously when you could be providing more discussion.
##Vote Toadesstern
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 10:41 GMT
#3534
Also, ##Vote Double Lynch
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 12:04 GMT
#3548
p4NDemik, I think this is an occams razor situation. Yes it's possible, but it's less possible than other explainations.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 22:47 GMT
#3657
On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 22:51 GMT
#3659
On January 23 2012 05:18 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:13 risk.nuke wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:04 hiro protagonist wrote:
Dont worry kita, I will crumb it one way or another.

What?

I will crumb the identity of my night 2 check before I die.

Okey, maybe you're new to mafia but sorry that is stupid. Crumbing works like this. When you die and we see your role we can read your filter, find your crumbs, and understand your nightactions. You can't crumb since you've already claimed.

The mafia couldn't target him and the person in the same night I suppose
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 22:57 GMT
#3662
On second or third thought, let's respect his wishes, stop trying to lynch a potential DT for now, and focus on who other than BM is scummy.
Toad, VE, supersoft, risk.nuke and kitaman all need further inspection imo, will get around to writing up some analysis at some point.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 22:58 GMT
#3663
On January 23 2012 07:55 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.

Not until Hiro's under genuine threat of a lynch, at least. Just name & alignment is fine for the moment.


What? Are you bluefishing?
The alignment is all that a townie should care about.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 23:00 GMT
#3664
jaj, what do you think of these people:
Toad, VE, supersoft, risk.nuke and kitaman
Said people, what are your opinions on each other and jaj?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 23:01 GMT
#3665
On January 23 2012 08:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
jaj, what do you think of these people:
Toad, VE, supersoft, risk.nuke and kitaman
Said people, what are your opinions on each other and jaj?

add rgTheSchworz to that circle when answering plz
I want his opinion on the others too
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