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On January 21 2012 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG I want to lynch you bro! You wanna fight about it?
Nah, waste of my time.
I'm willing to lynch sandro, if he comes up anything but red we lynch hiro right after, especially because hiro has been playing quite out of his normal character. Of course, I doubt he'd have the balls to claim like this as scum, but it's still worth something.
##unvote Toadesstern
##vote Sandroba
As for the other one, someone needs to explain why we are not killing BM and who we are killing instead. Otherwise, my vote is going to stay on him. I don't just like keeping people around because they blue claimed.
Also, the blue claim didn't make much sense for me because a mad hatter wouldn't want to be in office unless he intended on getting himself lynched. A mad hatter is one of the hardest roles to play; you play to get yourself shot by scum, and if you're in office that's impossible.
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Alright, so if we're wrong about BM we lose two townies. I can understand the sentiment now I suppose. However, if any of these people flip town we need to kill BM tomorrow at all costs.
##unvote Bill Murray
##vote kingjames01
Let's see what kingjames flips, since there isn't enough time for a new case. I'd like to see sandro flip as well.
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On January 21 2012 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like how I'm like, marked for death tonight and no one gives a shit what I say.
Cool guys. Consider this my last post.
why the fuck do you always think you're going to get shot?
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hmm I shouldn't have voted kingjames, he was playing too much like he did in XLVIII; just randomly bringing up people for lynch who had no chance of actually dying.
With that said, I want to take a closer look at bum because of how hard he defended sandro. I also still want to look at Toad because something still is weird about him. Bussing sandro isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, because sandro has 0 confidence in his scum play. It has happened before, even.
Thus, we should be careful with what types of conclusions we draw in retrospect about the sandro lynch. Sandro getting bussed was a very likely possibility.
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On January 21 2012 12:28 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
hmm I shouldn't have voted kingjames, he was playing too much like he did in XLVIII; just randomly bringing up people for lynch who had no chance of actually dying.
With that said, I want to take a closer look at bum because of how hard he defended sandro. I also still want to look at Toad because something still is weird about him. Bussing sandro isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, because sandro has 0 confidence in his scum play. It has happened before, even.
Thus, we should be careful with what types of conclusions we draw in retrospect about the sandro lynch. Sandro getting bussed was a very likely possibility. Why not take a look into risk.nuke if people who defended Sand are on your radar? He HARD defended Sand in one of his LAST posts. Did you miss that one? Why bum with his soft defend?
cause soft-defending is more indicative of scum than hard defending. If you hard defend someone you get a fuck ton of attention when you're wrong. Bum is just kinda sliding around doing nothing.
On January 21 2012 12:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 12:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
hmm I shouldn't have voted kingjames, he was playing too much like he did in XLVIII; just randomly bringing up people for lynch who had no chance of actually dying.
With that said, I want to take a closer look at bum because of how hard he defended sandro. I also still want to look at Toad because something still is weird about him. Bussing sandro isn't the hardest thing in the world to do, because sandro has 0 confidence in his scum play. It has happened before, even.
Thus, we should be careful with what types of conclusions we draw in retrospect about the sandro lynch. Sandro getting bussed was a very likely possibility. You voted for KJ because he was playing the way he was in a game where he was town? You get RIGHT out of town bro. You GET OUT! GET OUT OF TOWN WBG!!
he was dead either way, I wanted to ensure he flipped because I've been wrong quite a bit this game.
At any rate I reassured myself that my meta reads aren't all shit, so at least that's good.
We should definitely look into the people who voted KJ through the day for bad reasons, though. This group is bound to have scum in it because they could have been trying to keep sandro alive.
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On January 21 2012 13:05 bumatlarge wrote:And for those who are suspicious of me, it feels deserved. I made a bad read and banked on it. I don't think it hurt the town at all, so I'd implore you to look at it from my perspective as a townie. The 3 vets switching from BM to sandroba was the right call, and my neurotic side did not like it. I'll try to improve my play to whats expected of me soon. No more dumb factors 
I don't have a huge prob with you as long as you are active and helping today.
What interests me is this:
Votes for BloodyC0bbler (11) First
Meapak_Ziphh
risk.nuke
GGQ
zeks
Lanaia
glurio
Cyber_Cheese
Foolishness
supersoft
wherebugsgo
VisceraEyes
I know I'm town, VE strikes me as town. On day 1 I thought supersoft was town but he has yet to do anything so I'm wary of him.
Meapak has been acting weird, GGQ has been called scum, zeks has done nothing, Lanaia is scummy, glurio is a lurker, Cyber Cheese needs no explanation, Foolishness is probably town.
Sandro voted BC in thread and flipped scum.
Brown Bear didn't vote and he very well might be scum for not doing anything so far.
Foolishness, what do you think of this vote list?
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Foolishness
hiro protagonist
Protactinium
BloodyC0bbler (x3)
Scamp
glurio
vaderseven
Slardar
jaj22
Bill Murray
supersoft
rgTheSchworz
EchelonTee
Lanaia
Toadesstern
GGQ
~OpZ~
bumatlarge
people I don't like on KJ's vote list
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On January 21 2012 13:23 Lanaia wrote:
WBG, besides the obvious wishywashyness, what else makes me scummy to you?
Also, may I ask exactly how you feel about slardar?
I haven't paid attention to slardar at all. I'll read his posts soon.
I guess you're always scummy to me because you don't push your reads with conviction. Yesterday I recall you posted something I liked, so I'm inclined to believe you're more town since then.
Also in retrospect when I reread XLVII I saw that there were some differences from there to here and some more similarities from Steamship to here. So at the moment I'm content with calling you town. I'm just not confident with that read. (in other words, there are far better targets for tomorrow)
Meapak for now looks fairly townie to me too but he was very suspicious to me earlier yesterday.
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On January 21 2012 17:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Foolishness amend the list please. I strongly believe atm WBG has a high chance of flipping red.
I would place glurio higher on your list. I also believe that based on play, opz is far more likely to be red.
I'd love to hear this one.
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On January 21 2012 18:17 Bill Murray wrote:
yeah lynch me when i was all over sandroba, and didnt want to lynch kingjames
sandroba flipping red makes you look terrible
foolishness's list is a joke, I am seriously doubting both of your abilities to lead the town right now, so I'm going to have to take over the reigns, gentlemen.
stfu.
you're a detriment to town at best.
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On January 21 2012 22:51 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I'm not asking you to jail hiro, I'm asking hiro to claim being jailed regardless of your choice this night.
This is to assure we're lynching you, scum.
You have escaped lynching yesterday by BS-ing us.I think that's unfair.
Stop bending what i say, I believed protact was bussing, I was not 100% sure. Unlikely, now that L has flipped red.
How does L flipping red make it unlikely that Protact was bussing Macpo?
How does anything you say make sense?
Also, I really desire that we lynch BM tomorrow. The fact that he got elected is actually pissing me off right now.
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On January 21 2012 23:26 risk.nuke wrote:*Reminder*Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 12:22 risk.nuke wrote:On January 21 2012 12:20 Scamp wrote:
One out of two is still pretty good. I'm relieved. Vig's. steady. aim. fire. *Reminder*
I'd be so down for this. It's too bad I don't have a gun.
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On January 22 2012 07:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
WBG's town beta is based on drawing logical conclusions based on evidence from checks/flips. His game this game is to jump to conclusions based on meta. This game is NOT like his standard town meta aside from him being jerky toward anyone who questions/suspects him. You're being obtuse Protact, and I think you're better than this. Look again bro.
This is probably the most ironic fucking thing in the entire thread.
You accuse me of solely jumping to conclusions based on meta, whereas for me you do the exact same thing. So it's not okay for me to try to use meta to pin people, but it's completely fine for you to base a case entirely on meta?
Yeah, that's not completely contradictory or anything...
The sad part is I actually believe you're town.
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On January 14 2012 16:46 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote:
Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting. Turn everything you do into about 3 paragraphs, even if it could have been a line. I was walking down the street one day and I suddenly a foul scent hit my nose. I was like what the shit, where the fuck is this coming from? Did I just step on human fesses or what? After checking my feet and realizing it was clean I looked around and spotted a horrid looking creature that dropped 2 terrible posts in the begging of a game then was never heard of again. It was ciryandor. Protact had warned me about his unpleasant presence. Right then I decided I would rid the world of such disturbing annoyance and thus I hit him repeatedly over the head with my grandma's shoes. He finally succumbed, bored into oblivion. I felt victorious after checking my grandma's shoes and realizing a crimson taint had soaked them. Life was good. Being mayor made me proud. The whole idea of being elected to kill some random dude and being able to single handedly execute it was exciting. I stretched out my arm and an eagle landed on it. Fuck yes I'm a boss.
I just want to remind people that this is probably the fucking funniest thing I've ever read while going back through people's posts.
I laughed so hard at this LOL.
Anyway, something funny that struck me from sandro's filter is this:
On January 18 2012 03:27 sandroba wrote:
Although I'm not entirely convinced that macpo is sure mafia due to sheer terribleness of his insane rambling, we still have to get rid of him at some point due to the amount of players suspicious of him. This talk about no opposition to his lynch is in no way indicative of him being innocent. Mafia is not likely to openly oppose a lynch that has so much support and so far only 28 out of 44 voters have cast their votes. Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today.
Like, all the people sandro wants to lynch, I'm pretty sure, were scum; most likely scum that he felt he could not defend any longer. This is actually what sandro does as scum; he busses people like hell because he thinks they are super obvious scum to everyone.
Macpo he could not defend because Foolish/Protact attacked him. L he could not defend because everyone saw he was playing the same way he played in Responsibility. Is it a stretch to say that he could not defend GGQ either? I don't think so.
Also note how he tells myself, super, and toad to "get off my balls." This makes all 3 of us look far more town.
On January 17 2012 01:26 sandroba wrote:
@BC LOL man you could have redacted a few parts from that shit that I don't even remember talking about.
WBG, supersoft and toadstem need to get off my balls. My weekends are pretty busy and I did my best with the little time I had. I don't even know why the fuck you are calling me mafia on the first place.
As for who I think is mafia I got GGQ, Jackal and rgtICEMAN. I'm going to read dead guy's filters before I choose which one to push today, but they could very easily be all mafia. Brb.
Also note how he later rescinds his opinion about Jackal (he flips from day 1 liking Jackal to not liking Jackal to being unsure)
On January 17 2012 03:28 sandroba wrote:
I'm not quite sure on him because jackal is freaking jackal, but last time he was town i could tell right away and he did put in some effort and got killed early on. He just seems lazy and jumping on convenient stuff and he is back to his usual useless one line posting which he used to do as both alignments. He's either made a step back or he is scum this game, I need more to decide accurately, but I'm leaning scum on him atm.
whereas for L, GGQ, Macpo, and Ciryandor he's just like "fuck man this guy's scum he smells fucking bad kill him" The only exception is when Macpo is seriously close to dying, then he sheds some doubt on the lynch.
Meapak, I think, has been correct about GGQ this entire time, but just hasn't been going about it properly. Of course, our job is easy; if GGQ is not scum, I'm almost 100% sure Meapak is, because that's the only target he's tunneled. The reason I say this is because Meapak has had several days to contribute and yet he's always been focused on tunneling GGQ. Normally I'd be uncomfortable with aligning flips like that, and certainly if GGQ is town it'd be difficult to lynch Meapak (since there are things in Meapak's filter, notably what he said about L, that make him look town) but I think we have to consider the big picture instead of letting little things prevent us from making hard decisions.
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On January 22 2012 11:32 vaderseven wrote:
When does the next day start?
less than 30 minutes I think.
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On January 22 2012 11:33 p4NDemik wrote:
Foolishness has been pretty worthless town to boot if you look at his history. He's only unquestioned because he's tight with Protact/BC. He's been building many lists but not making many strong cases. On my bad guy list atm.
the thing that bothers me most about Foolish is the fact that he hasn't died.
I would expect mafia to triple stack him if necessary, since he's obviously been correct about at least two or three scum now.
This is actually what bothers me a lot about this game and it's been messing with my head for a while. By all means, at least one of Protact/Foolishness should have died by now. Also, if BM was scum and BC was town I'm sure the bodyguards would've started dying too.
None of these things have happened, which is concerning me right now. It could very well mean BC is scum or both BC and BM are town. Right now I feel like I don't have a proper handle on the alignments of the "biggest" veterans in the game and that concerns me deeply.
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On January 22 2012 11:41 kitaman27 wrote:You see BC as a power role? The guy who spent the entire game talking about his mason claim? 
why have you done next to nothing for the past...I dunno...ever?
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On January 22 2012 11:44 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2012 11:41 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 22 2012 11:41 kitaman27 wrote:You see BC as a power role? The guy who spent the entire game talking about his mason claim? why have you done next to nothing for the past...I dunno...ever? You think I'm scum bugs?
I dunno wtf you are, your play as both alignments is really good.
But then, as town this game you've done next to nothing. So, that just leaves good scum play. o_O
Tell me, who do you think is scum right now and why?
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alright, cool.
So these kills are interesting. Why Scamp and GGQ? Wtf?
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On January 22 2012 12:06 Toadesstern wrote:
Mr. meapak. didn't you call me scum because I was trying to safe a scumbuddy when proposing to lynch Sandroba d1/d2 and said that the sandroba case is nothing but a poor defence to safe GGQs ass?
After macpo flipped you even told people to look into people who tried to safe macpo by proposing to lynch Sandroba because Sandroba clearly was just a distraction and you still pushing GGQ while people were switching to macpo was fine.
I don't want to make this sound OMGUS but you need to die.
lol this is like the most forced and set up thing I've ever seen
If Meapak was scum why the fuck would he shoot GGQ and deprive himself of his only target? It's wifomy but I seriously doubt he would tunnel the same guy for like 72 hours and then turn around and allow his team to shoot the guy.
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