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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 19:55 GMT
#2945
On January 21 2012 01:50 Scamp wrote:
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On January 20 2012 21:26 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 20 2012 18:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I feel like double lynching tomorrow would be good.
We get a lot of new information with the lynches and nk's, and the sooner we kill mafia, the sooner their kp is lowered.
##Vote Double Lynch


Reading is a good skill toi have


So is politeness. Why did you feel the need to answer a question asked of someone else?

The point is, however, using today as an example, does he really think we're going to be in a good position tomorrow for a double lynch?

I'm confused, why do you think we will be in a bad position?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 20:00 GMT
#2948
On January 21 2012 02:46 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 22:22 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.

If on the off chance BM flips town I'd have no problem hanging you.


Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 22:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.

Wait, you specifically asked him to? If so, can you prove all logs between you two?



Use logic, bro's. Yes, I asked him. There was reasoning behind it. Saying you want to hang me before even hearing any part of the idea is pretty stupid, I feel.

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 02:13 glurio wrote:
I didn't mason anyone on day 1, was busy reading the thread.
Tried to mason with BC on day 2 he never answered.
+ Show Spoiler +
To: BloodyC0bbler [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Mason
Date: 1/17/12 19:31
Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now?


So there really isn't anything i can post yet.


Did anyone else think "Mafia Mason" at this post?

So why did you not provide the reasoning yet exactly? If it was good reasoning, you would have shared it by now.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 20:12 GMT
#2952
I don't remember reading any Chaosquo posts in quite a while now....
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 20:19 GMT
#2956
On January 21 2012 04:50 p4NDemik wrote:
God why do I feel there is a gigantic disconnect in logic between me and the supposedly brilliant players that have gotten us to this point in the game. The fact they keep going to their inner circle of veterans to bolster themselves and not ever speaking to my actual points is killing me. If this means what I think it means it could be incredible but I need town to go with my logic please guys! I feel like I'm putting good logic out and being met with strict rhetoric at every end.

Solution: Stop relying on their circle, and rap with the other active people in the thread.
I've been a little busy today, and as I've previously said, I'm pretty happy with where my votes are.
That said, if anybody wants me to take a stance on their case specifically, I'll make time to discuss the persons in question.

Also, DOUBLE LYNCH!
Look how many people seem like valid lynches right now.
Carefully consider how much more information we gain from the double lynch today, and the NK's.
If we cut mafia KP fast, we lose less townies.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 20:26 GMT
#2962
On January 21 2012 05:10 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 21 2012 04:41 Protactinium wrote:
On January 21 2012 04:35 p4NDemik wrote:
Proact I trust your judgment based upon your actions so far this game, why is supersoft a non-sensical lynch? I have already kept an open mind and told myself I would switch (most likely to kingjames if someone could really convince me I am in error) but I have seen some of the most respected TL mafia players step to the plate in you and BC and do nothing to dissuade me. Please tell me where I have gone wrong and why this vote wouldn't be extremely beneficial to town.

No time to think about it, but supersoft is CURRENTLY nonsensical. Lets lynch sandroba first. I'll look over it later when I have time although I do recall supersoft being quite useless this game. The thing is, there's no reason to deviate from my list right now. We'll take care of the rest later.

Lets just consolidate our votes. This day seems to have produced some interesting information. But right now is the time to lynch, not the time to insist on getting information. I'll sort through all this later if I'm not dead by that time.


I am taking your judgement on this. The only reason I am ok with lynching sandroba is because of a comparison of this game and two others he has been in.

First off everyone look at sandros filter from this game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=21688

Now compare it to a game he was town which was Mafia XLVII

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=21688

and a game he was mafia which is pick your power interesting

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&user=21688

The level he has contributed this game is near non existent and aside from being slightly active day 1 he has fucked the dog completely. Much like he did in pick your power interesting. As such I am opting to lynch him over BM.

This is because the general read on BM is hard as hell. BM is always hard to read and could very well be a hatter. With that in mind, I don't want to lose protrac and will opt to off sandroba instead as to keep one of the core analyzer alive longer.

I was in PYPI, it had PM's so everybody's filter is worse than it could have been.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 20:31 GMT
#2966
On January 21 2012 05:28 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 21 2012 05:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 21 2012 05:21 hiro protagonist wrote:
Hey BC, Protac, remember when I made this great post detailing why Sandro was scum? BC called me an idiot for wanting to lynch sand, and protac thought my case was weak at best?

I could not get any traction for my case without you guys, and now BC paraphrases my exact points in regard to sandroba, and protac comes in like it was his idea.

just... you know ... Its just a bit ironic.


his day 1 play had me convinced he was town. I had to read his filter from this game and compare it to a known scum him and a known town -_- His scum habit seems to be "solidify a townie read" day 1 then do near nothing to avoid being offed.

quick question: Why did sandroba vote you d1 to be mayor?

How is he supposed to know? Ask Sandroba...
This is why it's hard to 'gain traction' with whatever lynches you have going, every 5 posts someone asks the leading townies a question and puts their decisions back into the spotlight.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 20:37 GMT
#2974
On January 21 2012 05:34 Toadesstern wrote:
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On January 21 2012 05:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 21 2012 05:28 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 21 2012 05:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 21 2012 05:21 hiro protagonist wrote:
Hey BC, Protac, remember when I made this great post detailing why Sandro was scum? BC called me an idiot for wanting to lynch sand, and protac thought my case was weak at best?

I could not get any traction for my case without you guys, and now BC paraphrases my exact points in regard to sandroba, and protac comes in like it was his idea.

just... you know ... Its just a bit ironic.


his day 1 play had me convinced he was town. I had to read his filter from this game and compare it to a known scum him and a known town -_- His scum habit seems to be "solidify a townie read" day 1 then do near nothing to avoid being offed.

quick question: Why did sandroba vote you d1 to be mayor?

How is he supposed to know? Ask Sandroba...
This is why it's hard to 'gain traction' with whatever lynches you have going, every 5 posts someone asks the leading townies a question and puts their decisions back into the spotlight.


yeah but I'd like to hear bc's opinion on that one. We discussed the post I am referring to a lot and a lot of people said I'm scummy because of that. That's what I'm talking about:
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On January 15 2012 06:05 sandroba wrote:
Palmar you need to try harder, you are too easy to spot as scum nowadays. I'd rather not lynch any vets day1 but you make it so hard not to lynch you. Please go die in a corner.
I'll vote BC since we came to a compromise in pms. Gotta roll.
##Vote: BloodyC0bbler

I'd just like to know if BC thinks sandroba will vote a town mayor (as a mafia) just to get palmar lynched when supersoft and wbg already did the half the job. If he's a townie and thinks sandroba would push for a mafia mayor there's no way BC should vote sandroba over BC unless both BC and BM are town.

Derp, I forgot about the day 1 mason :/
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 21:04 GMT
#2985
On January 21 2012 05:46 hiro protagonist wrote:
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On January 21 2012 05:36 p4NDemik wrote:
This is so messed up you three have invested all day into BM and Kingjames. I've been like 95-99% sure on these lynches for hours upon hours and now you guys are randomly switching your vote to sandroba.

Whatever trust and goodwill you have been building up, it is quickly evaporating. You need to explain this.


I think what is happening behind the seanes is that there seemed to be vary little in opposition to lynching BM, where as Kingjames01 still does not have many votes. Also, if your scum suspects are voting for BM, then you might rethink who would be the best lynch. I would be suspicious too, in your shoes, but for me, BC,Protac, and Foolishness reads are similar to my own, so its easy for me to except this.

Sandroba is today's best lynch along with Kingjames01.

Cyber_Cheese and Jackal, sense your here, wanna help lynch Sandroba?

In a word, no.
I don't blame Foolishness/Protract/BC for being scared of BMs claim, their fear of losing Protract is why Sandro is suddenly popular.
I have the best feeling about BM at the moment. Short of that, Chaosquo seems best.

I'm not convinced by arguments on Sandroba, they were essentially made day 2, and he seemed townie enough to me on day 2.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 21:06 GMT
#2986
On January 21 2012 05:47 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 05:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 21 2012 02:46 Jitsu wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:22 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.

If on the off chance BM flips town I'd have no problem hanging you.


On January 20 2012 22:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.

Wait, you specifically asked him to? If so, can you prove all logs between you two?



Use logic, bro's. Yes, I asked him. There was reasoning behind it. Saying you want to hang me before even hearing any part of the idea is pretty stupid, I feel.

On January 21 2012 02:13 glurio wrote:
I didn't mason anyone on day 1, was busy reading the thread.
Tried to mason with BC on day 2 he never answered.
+ Show Spoiler +
To: BloodyC0bbler [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Mason
Date: 1/17/12 19:31
Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now?


So there really isn't anything i can post yet.


Did anyone else think "Mafia Mason" at this post?

So why did you not provide the reasoning yet exactly? If it was good reasoning, you would have shared it by now.


Ok.

Initially, BC and BM would be the only two people to know the identities of the Bodyguards. If the Mafia had replaced both Bodyguard's and killed BC and BM in the same night, the identities of the two Mafia Bodyguard's would remain a secret, and it would have died with our Mayor/Sheriff.

I asked to have the names of the Bodyguard's revealed to me so that, if that were the case, I would be able to identify the names of the two mafia bodyguards, essentially trading two-for-two. At the same token, it would be fairly obvious to deduce if I were mafia, since, more than likely, the Bodyguard's would be killed the following nights, and BM would be able to identify me, as well as have evidence to that fact. I would be pretty screwed.

I was hoping to keep this fact under wraps, so that I wouldn't be targeted for having extra knowledge, and would be able to bring it out as a simple back-up if the whole chain of events worked in order.

I think the benefit's out-weighed the negatives. Also, I thought it would be effective since I wouldn't be known to the general group to have this special knowledge, since this was done in means beyond the thread. Obviously, this isn't the case anymore.

Can we end the bullshit now?

Foolishness, you are here. I think BC agrees with me. What do you think of Glurio?


No, we can't. I want the logs where you convinced BM that it was a good idea. Or the logs of how it went down failing the need to explain it. And while you're at it, any other logs.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 21:08 GMT
#2987
On January 21 2012 06:06 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 05:47 Jitsu wrote:
On January 21 2012 05:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 21 2012 02:46 Jitsu wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:22 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.

If on the off chance BM flips town I'd have no problem hanging you.


On January 20 2012 22:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 20 2012 22:21 Jitsu wrote:
The reasoning behind asking for the bodyguard's was a choice that I weighed for awhile. In the end, I decided to go along with it.

Wait, you specifically asked him to? If so, can you prove all logs between you two?



Use logic, bro's. Yes, I asked him. There was reasoning behind it. Saying you want to hang me before even hearing any part of the idea is pretty stupid, I feel.

On January 21 2012 02:13 glurio wrote:
I didn't mason anyone on day 1, was busy reading the thread.
Tried to mason with BC on day 2 he never answered.
+ Show Spoiler +
To: BloodyC0bbler [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Mason
Date: 1/17/12 19:31
Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now?


So there really isn't anything i can post yet.


Did anyone else think "Mafia Mason" at this post?

So why did you not provide the reasoning yet exactly? If it was good reasoning, you would have shared it by now.


Ok.

Initially, BC and BM would be the only two people to know the identities of the Bodyguards. If the Mafia had replaced both Bodyguard's and killed BC and BM in the same night, the identities of the two Mafia Bodyguard's would remain a secret, and it would have died with our Mayor/Sheriff.

I asked to have the names of the Bodyguard's revealed to me so that, if that were the case, I would be able to identify the names of the two mafia bodyguards, essentially trading two-for-two. At the same token, it would be fairly obvious to deduce if I were mafia, since, more than likely, the Bodyguard's would be killed the following nights, and BM would be able to identify me, as well as have evidence to that fact. I would be pretty screwed.

I was hoping to keep this fact under wraps, so that I wouldn't be targeted for having extra knowledge, and would be able to bring it out as a simple back-up if the whole chain of events worked in order.

I think the benefit's out-weighed the negatives. Also, I thought it would be effective since I wouldn't be known to the general group to have this special knowledge, since this was done in means beyond the thread. Obviously, this isn't the case anymore.

Can we end the bullshit now?

Foolishness, you are here. I think BC agrees with me. What do you think of Glurio?


No, we can't. I want the logs where you convinced BM that it was a good idea. Or the logs of how it went down failing the need to explain it. And while you're at it, any other logs.

PS, if you are town, this won't take long to procure.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 22:27 GMT
#3022
On January 21 2012 07:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
For those uncertain about their second vote and uncomfortable voting sandroba I highly recomend GGQ.

Alright, I'll swap to BM/GGQ
I'll probably push Chaosquo again if he shows up again.
+ Show Spoiler [Chaosequo case re-hash] +
On January 17 2012 02:15 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Is it just me, or is that some timing? Just as Sandroba decides GGQ as his vote

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On January 17 2012 02:02 Chaosquo wrote:
ggq: posts quite aggressive and short, but wherebugsgo and palmar made similar posts. I leaned scum, but null read right now.

BAM! SOFTDEFEND

So I took a look at Chaosquo's Filter
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On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:18 Palmar wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm

LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.

I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again.


I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign.


Hey I agree with this guy, so I'm voting him. I am very much a fan of killing Ciryandor.


What is it with Ciryandor?1 Palmar, are you now trolling us? I agree with Toadesstern that a) you are mafia and dont care about the game or b) you have a special tactic, but randomly accusing him does not help ..2

Wiggles: Does your post mean you are stepping down as candidate?3

On that topic, could all people that are serious in their campaign make it clear? For me, right now there are: BC, BM(?), kitaman and risk.nuke. I think the number of candidates has to be limited to enable a clearer choice.

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On January 14 2012 01:44 Chaosquo wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:32 Palmar wrote:
On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote:
a) you are mafia and dont care about the game


Prove it.


I was just commenting on your playstyle. I was just following the meta on you (town=vocal, scum=lurking), but seeing as you were quite active as "scum" in resistance, I retract my statement. But still posting one-liners is not helping much, no?24

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On January 14 2012 01:46 Chaosquo wrote:
I have to ask: Is the kill Ciry thing a meta thing? Because I didnt see much scummy things from him.1

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On January 14 2012 08:38 Chaosquo wrote:
I still think BC is quite towny, as he put himself quite into the spotlight and his posts didnt raise suspicions. I just cannot imagine he would risk his quite good shot at an elected role by claiming mason if he was scum. Therefore, I think for the time I'm going to vote BC for mayor. I could be totally outplayed, but so be it. Or maybe I put too much value into an elected scum.

I am a new player5, so I can imagine that good scum team can manipulate a inexperienced player, but he will probably only influence the game with his single vote (if he's green), so I can see why masons staying hidden is advantageous for town.

Also, since I got ignored the first time, why is there so much hate towards Ciry?1 I dont think his posts are very scummy, but there are 3 people (sandroba, proactinium and sheth) pushing for his lynch. I also dont think this alone is a scumtell, but its still pretty irritatiting ..


1 - Protects Ciryandor multiple times.
2 - Casts doubt on both Palmar
3 - And Wiggles
4 - Apologetic
5 - Calls attention to his inexperience

##Vote Chaosquo


I'm convinced Chaosquo scum mostly for protecting Ciry multiple times and not doing much else D1.
Not sure if he's up for a modkill at this rate anyway...So...
He defended GGQ, and that's enough to be worth a GGQ vote for me, let alone the GGQ cases themselves.
##Unvote Chaosquo
##Vote GGQ

On January 21 2012 07:09 Jackal58 wrote:
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On January 21 2012 06:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 21 2012 06:50 p4NDemik wrote:
None so far proven but I feel I have one under the spotlight and I'm with you on BM.

Why are you and BC so self-unassured and relying on Proact? You guys are supposed to be super good veteran townies. Have more faith in yourself and have more faith in some of your fellow town. And most of all have faith in your read we all still think it is good.


BM is BM. All reads on him although could possibly be accurate could be summed up with its BM. The risk of losing protract earlier because BM decided to troll us all is an actual possibility. We still have other leads which is why we opted to move to those. This isn't unreasonable to want to keep a strong analyzer alive longer. As for whoever said if he is a hatter and has a bomb on protract isn't that more a reason to lynch him? are you a friggen moron -_-

I made that argument when he was first pushed as a lynch and was ignored. This is beginning to look more like one, if not more than one, of your triumvirate knows BM is most likely a hatter. If that is the case lynching him would be a most excellent thing to do. And don't start telling me how many scum you guys have outed. 2 were killed by Vigs. Plus outing your entire scum team is en vogue atm. Several of us in this game just did it with very successful results.

I am leaving shortly and won't be back on until late tonight. I foresee a real clusterfuck occurring over the next several hours and am sorry I shall have to miss it.

I must have misinterpreted that when I though scumslip, no?

On January 21 2012 07:10 p4NDemik wrote:
His only actual ban has been a 2 day that plexa gave him because of a mafia incident but I don't have any context as to what it is. Mafia matters are mostly carried out through mafia and I don't know any of what Bill's transgressions are. This is so frustrating that his bad history is coming into play like this to try to discredit a perfectly good lynch. If he acts like this as town he shouldn't be allowed back into games this is idiotic. If he is town won't he just get another ban immediately? If he cared enough to come back into this game why does he have motive to be an idiot again?

I'm not seeing this BM is a troll town case and this is feels like a cop out.

Bans are for breaking the rules in the OP.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 22:50 GMT
#3035
On January 21 2012 07:44 Bill Murray wrote:
yeah, and who was #3 on my list? Risk.nuke.
The guy who started tunneling me for no reason after my list? Yep.

If you had a list then, is it maintained?
E.g, is there a 'latest version' so we can see where you're at?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 20 2012 23:03 GMT
#3041
I feel like it's been a bit overblown that the bomb is in a bad place due to BM hating on town.
BM said he missed his actions night 2, on night 1 protractinium hadn't been proven to have found any scum, and he clearly didn't become mayor so he can't have been the most townie candidate.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#3115
On January 21 2012 09:49 supersoft wrote:
Futhermore, I want to know if echlontree has already played a few games so far, and if so I need the gamenames/links would be extremely kind. ;-)
If he's newb, I think he got coached there:

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On January 13 2012 19:00 EchelonTee wrote:
Candidates and their main platform post+summary:

kitaman
bumatlarge-(also made a post here)
Wiggles - town
CC
Foolishness (for BM)
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Cyber_Cheese and Foolishness comes off to me as most untrustworthy.

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CC

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On January 13 2012 14:10 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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Cheese for mare!
Campaign unofficially endorsed by flamewheel

As you all know, my scum play is pretty bad, and I have the time to put into the game to discern the scum from the town. Giving me those extra votes is securing a safe town future.

I'm going to lynch the scummiest mayorial candidate, and my vote will go to the person that seems to have the most time to (effectively) put into the game.1


1. Though there isn't anything egregiously wrong with being super generic in campaign post, this post is also very very sparse for a campaign post. This is less of platform than Wiggles' non-platform platform. The "my scum play is bad" nonsense is also suspect. Stating that he intends to lynch a scummy mayorial candidate is interesting, but as it stands, he in essence is just saying "I will lynch a scum, and vote for a pro-town/active person". Not compelling enough for a platform.

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On January 13 2012 16:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 13 2012 15:08 Adam4167 wrote:
Ill be waiting for Bill Murray to show up to the thread before I even consider him or his candidacy.

So far I'm leaning towards voting for Cheese, as he is one of the few people in this game I have experience with. I am more likely to recognize his scum play if he is scum and, lets face it, he has a flaming pony as his campaign picture.

So Cheese, since you opened the game with a vote on Wiggles, and he is now also running for mayor, will you be hanging him upon your election?

No, that was a joke based on his always scum reputation. I will lynch the scummiest candidate.2

On January 13 2012 14:07 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
A couple notes about the set-up:

Elected roles gain detection immunity. This makes it worse for us if mafia get into one of these roles, as we have no way to DT check them. It also means that the GF probably won't run for office, or if he does, he'll drop out early. Between the mayor and the sheriff, the sheriff is the one who actually has power past day 1. So, one thing we can do, is vote in a player that we see as both a strong townie, and as being town in this game, into the mayor role solely for the purposes of protection. This applies to the sheriff too, but there's more responsibility on them as the game goes on due to the jailkeeper mechanic.

Also something to note, is that we can't trust vig claims, due to the possibility of mafia jack's, who would be able to shoot and not affect what KP would show up that night coming from the mafia.

We should also maybe talk about when to use our double lynches, but I don't think it's a huge deal until when the time comes that we might actually want to use them. We just need to be careful not to waste them.

Vote me into office, please.

I disagree, the mayor still has a fair amount of power as the game gets closer to LYLO. 3

On January 13 2012 15:29 GGQ wrote:
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On January 13 2012 13:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh fail, didn't realise there was elections...
##Unvote

I'm going to run for mayor.

Lynch all lurkers/liars is standard pre-game chat, and it's mostly useless. Let's skip that.
It's all too situational, and we rarely follow through with it.


This post is also bad.

Rather than calling my posts bad, try adding something to the discussion. Are you running for mayor? If so, details. If not, what do you think of the candidates?

Also, bum is directing blues already? planning ahead that much seems scummy... 4

One more thing, if anyone was even considering it, don't run for mayor based on being a blue. It gives the scum too much information on day 1, and it could be scum lying.


2.Now that candidates have spoken, I'm interested who CC thinks the "scummiest candidate" is, as atm your posting has been incredibly sparse for a potential candidate. CC is either apathetic or evasive with information, neither of which are favorable for a mayor position at all.

3.Wiggles forgetting that Mayor has 3 votes was already stated in the thread. CC is not only answering only a small snippet of Wiggles' post; his assertion here doesn't really make sense in context of the thread. Why is he psuedo-analyzing Wiggles' post? He is commenting on the most obvious part of Wiggles post... something is just strange here. Also, Mayor's power increases a LOT as LYLO approaches... I don't like how he downplays it.

4.Bum's post isn't inherently scummy but could be construed as such; trying to lead blues astray / gain credit by telling blues what to do can advance a scum agenda, but if you look at bum's post, his blue list is pretty...... tame. It's just general advice; at this early part of the game I don't see how you can see this as scummy. It seems like you are trying to intentionally cast doubt on his position, unfairly.


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On January 13 2012 18:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On January 13 2012 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
It is not Foolishness's game
I don't see how it is a moot point whatsoever
I am not going to create a huge wall post, and sound like a high school football coach
cyber_cheese is confirmed scum in my eyes. If I'm elected mayor, I'm lynching him
He's acting like I haven't posted at all, when my post is right above his. To further his agenda, he's attacking bumatlarge for coaching power roles, when in his own post, he goes on to tell power roles to not run for mayor based on being power roles. Hypocrisy, and scum skimming, are just the icing on the cake, however. I had a scum read on him the minute he tried to get a lynch pushed through on Mr Wiggles, and then took his vote back when he realized it was for mayor. He was trying to get a mislynch pushed through for his scum team in my eyes. If he's town, oh well, he didn't even read any of my posts DIRECTLY ABOVE HIS, and he has not only proven he isn't reading, but already contradicted himself.

At the time I was making that post, you hadn't posted.
I made a joke about lynching Wiggles.
Bum looked like he was ready to focus the elections around power roles. I was discouraging that situation.5


On January 13 2012 18:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was debating what to do with my 3k but I couldn’t think up of anything fast enough so this is it

Anyway, I am running for mayor as well. At the moment, I do not most of the mayor candidates. I don’t like Cyber_Cheese because his reasoning for him being mayor is weak in my opinion. Saying that you should be elected because your scum play is bad isn’t very inspiring. His other argument is that he’ll be active (nice trait for a mayor to have but everybody should be active), also he says he’ll lynch the scummiest mayor candidate which I don’t like because one of the mayor candidates may not be the best choice.

Yes, being bad at scumplay isn't inspiring. I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced.
Everyone *should* be active in theory, but things can come up, and I guarentee that won't happen with me
Scum will run for mayor, and more than likely they will be scummier than most of town. If we inspect the candidates closely, we can easily discern at least one.6


5. This feels like weak back pedaling... bum's post doesn't reek election on power; though his blue list is long, he's just stating strategy.

6.Honestly I'm most interested in CC's tone... posting style is very sparse as noted, but the very point-by-point feel to his posts, especially this section, feels like he is trying to put out a minimal amount of information while still trying to sway things a certain way. Posting minimally can be good, but when also trying to get things done... I don't know. It's strange and evasive.

Adam, I'm curious if you are still for Cheese.

Will make another post on Foolishness and who I like for mayor... this is taking forever lol.


He was on a scum team with me and Adam4167 in Wiggles mini (Somewhere in my filter, ctrl+f Sephirotharg and it's in that post.) That was the format I was using in that game for my arguments.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 00:57 GMT
#3120
On January 21 2012 09:54 risk.nuke wrote:
Let me tell you what happend.

Someone set up us the bomb?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 01:10 GMT
#3131
On January 21 2012 09:57 jaj22 wrote:
EchelonTee's only game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=296791&currentpage=22
Very strong scum play for a first game IMO. I wouldn't underestimate him.

I find that somewhat ironic.
Of all people to call someone elses scum play strong.
If I'm not mistaken, Election Mafia was your first game here.

For anyone that wasn't following that game, Jaj22 subbed in for MarserBlood.

They were scum naturally. There's a quote that essentially sums it up.
On December 27 2011 06:07 jaj22 wrote:
Marserblood was indefensible, and would no doubt have been added to the long line of newbie town corpses if he'd stayed in the game.

It essentially boils down to: If it wasn't for Marserblood, he might have carried the scum team as the sole survivor.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 02:45 GMT
#3192
Change back to BM. Sandro being modkilled makes it an easy decision.
Short of that, Chaosquo?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 02:46 GMT
#3193
On January 21 2012 11:45 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Change back to BM. Sandro being modkilled makes it an easy decision.
Short of that, Chaosquo?

Oh derp. Suggests a modkill victim to replace another...
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 02:47 GMT
#3194
GGQ/Kingjames seems like your option if you dont want BM/Sandro lynched
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 21 2012 02:52 GMT
#3198
Anybody that's on Sandroba is helping to waste our lynches
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