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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 21 2012 08:55 GMT
#3285
I know everyone here will most likely be harassing me like no man tommorrow however.

First three people IMO who should be lynched.

BM, WBG, Meapak. I will be explaining why on each when I wake up as it is near 4am and I have been up for ages trying to fix my damn reads for this game.

protract, please give a more solid round of your reads in the off chance you get shot tonight.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 21 2012 17:58 GMT
#3340
On January 21 2012 12:50 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm not taking a bomb off
I'm either putting another bomb out, or jailing to try to protect someone like a medic like if someone like Foolishness was just a townie, I could jailkeep them for 2 nights to guarantee they get to late game. That is more valuable. I am 50% protactinium is scum based on the election - it's either him or BC. I'm not moving that bomb, unless we're lynching BC.


BM is unable to jail someone like foolishness twice in a row, He is able to move or place another bomb the same night he opts to jail someone. Also holding a town lynch hostage, which is in essence what you are doing, is not pro town.

On January 21 2012 08:56 Bill Murray wrote:
tonight I'm going to move my bomb to risk.nuke, since you all don't like it being on my top suspect
would you all be adverse to me putting my 2nd bomb out first? I'd rather have a bomb on incog and a bomb on risk.nuke, before I think about moving my bomb off incog, to keep my utility

The reason I claimed 1 bomb now is because I can move my 2nd bomb out tonight
If you all want me to move my 1 bomb tonight, I can't maximize having both bombs out tonight. What if I'm roleblocked? This is all a bunch of shit. I don't see why I had to be pressured today, this really hurt our play TREMENDOUSLY.

I was thinking about the Risk.Nuke situation when I was showering, and he really sucks. OMGUS all over the place, considering his tunneling started after I put him as #3 on my scumspects list. He's defending scummy Sandroba now? He can hang next.

I would either put my 2nd bomb or move my bomb on GGQQ, but it seems like he's going to get lynched, and I don't want to lose it.


You are not roleblockable.

On January 21 2012 18:17 Bill Murray wrote:
yeah lynch me when i was all over sandroba, and didnt want to lynch kingjames
sandroba flipping red makes you look terrible
foolishness's list is a joke, I am seriously doubting both of your abilities to lead the town right now, so I'm going to have to take over the reigns, gentlemen.


Why? would you be taking the reigns? Between myself, foolishness, and protract a total of 4 reds have been called out who have flipped red. More to the point however, the lynches that hit two of those reds were pushed/directed by us. You were "all over sandroba" yet you never analyzed him, or strongly and vocally pushed him as a lynch option and instead just voted alongside everyone else. You sheeped.

Before you rage around screaming "i scumhunted, i scumhunted" near all your "scum" are based off pure speculation and not real analysis. In some cases you just list people as red with no reason and continue on. Your contributions to this game have been near 0 and you have really not done anything aside from claim hatter with a bomb on protrac to do anything to save yourself. You didn't step up over day 3 even knowing you could still die

as for going with the sheep comment you made

On January 21 2012 07:44 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 07:43 Bill Murray wrote:
My view on you is not null. Your case on Sandroba was what kept my fire fueled a few days ago.

EBWOP: @ hiro.protaganist



hey guys, he was only after sandroba based on someone elses shite, he was sheeping!

Town will most likely be annoyed as fuck with me over the kj lynch. However your play is riddled with pretty well 0 contributions, holding lynches hostage to determine if you do whats in the best interests of the towns or not, fear mongering, and lies.

As a note, Do you remember the game you were a ninja and I was a ninja? Do you remember how you held the town hostage by saying "i will give the entire blue list out to the mafia if you don't give me the name of the last ninja?" Do you remember when they asked you to move your shot because someone else had sent in a kill action on that target well before you did and once again you refused?

You clearly only play in your own personal best interests when you aren't town. Nothing you have done in this past day has been in the interests of the town, only in the interests of yourself.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 21 2012 18:02 GMT
#3341
On January 22 2012 00:54 Toadesstern wrote:
Also I'd like to see another log from BC.
When BC answered jackals question (along the lines "how do you vets talk with eatch other?") bc promptly said he's a mason. Foolish however said it's a game of realizing wether those 3 are taking the same path or not. Looked to me like he was not masoned. Protact did not say a word about it but I'd still like to see a log. At least something

I don't want to run into a jack. Yeah I know, I thought myself when KJ posted that bc-might-be-joat-post that it's fearmongering but I actually take it as a viable option right now.


which set would you like?

I have protrac logs
VE logs from where he mason'd me
Foolishness logs.

As a general note, if I claim I am mason'd to someone and they don't say "thats bullshit" in thread, the chances are guess what. I'm not lying. The only way I could be talking to them is if I was a jack and wasted 1 use and I was red with at least 1 of them, all of us were red, or I am in fact a mason.

of the three sets of logs i'd prefer to show the ones with foolishness after the day post purely to have a full set of logs to show.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 21 2012 19:09 GMT
#3356
On January 22 2012 03:21 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 02:58 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 21 2012 18:17 Bill Murray wrote:
yeah lynch me when i was all over sandroba, and didnt want to lynch kingjames
sandroba flipping red makes you look terrible
foolishness's list is a joke, I am seriously doubting both of your abilities to lead the town right now, so I'm going to have to take over the reigns, gentlemen.


Why? would you be taking the reigns? Between myself, foolishness, and protract a total of 4 reds have been called out who have flipped red. More to the point however, the lynches that hit two of those reds were pushed/directed by us. You were "all over sandroba" yet you never analyzed him, or strongly and vocally pushed him as a lynch option and instead just voted alongside everyone else. You sheeped.

I don't think this is true. Bill Murray has pushed Sandroba hard from day 1, and made a substantial case back then. Whatever else you can say about him, he does come out of this flip with some credit.



he is quoted as saying if roba is mafia then ciry is town as well. We all know how that actually turned out. I can say, he pushed hard day 1 and that looks good, but what did he do thereafter? By process of pushing the macpo lynch I would gain credit, as would I for the roba flip as being one of the few to push it through today.

as for substantial case? Could you link that please? I have yet to see it. LIke I have seen other peoples cases on roba, but I have yet to see a substantial case from BM. I acknowledge that BM pushed him, but he never gave solid analysis as to why.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 21 2012 19:10 GMT
#3357
On January 22 2012 04:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey BC! Lemme guess, your case against me revolves around me defending sandroba. It also involves GGQ being town because sandroba attacked him.

Either way I'd appreciate if you and foolishness would actually stand up and post a case against me rather than doing your veiled little "he's scum" statements.


Surprisingly, no. I will be doing my case shortly, however there are other reasons. Defending roba is something myself, foolishness and protract were all guilty of. Can't find fault in an aspect of play we all had the same blindspot to.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 21 2012 19:22 GMT
#3359
On January 22 2012 03:20 Toadesstern wrote:
oh also I'd like to hear some names from you BC. Just shout out who you want to lynch BC right now. preferable after the night-/day switch as well.


currently based on reading via filter.

BM, WBG, and Meapak in that order of preference.

After that insert Glurio, Evantrees, Munk-e, opz, kenpachi, brownbear.

As there are 6 mafia left, some of those are obviously at this point not correct, but they all seem intelligent choices based on the play of each one of the.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 21 2012 19:43 GMT
#3360
Logs

Foolishness
+ Show Spoiler +

[19/01/2012 12:25:29 AM] james: youll be getting a pm in some near future
[19/01/2012 12:25:30 AM] james: from fw
[19/01/2012 12:35:19 AM] PCP: you masoned me?
[19/01/2012 12:35:21 AM] PCP: or day vigi'd me?
[19/01/2012 12:35:23 AM] PCP: ^.^
[19/01/2012 12:36:22 AM] james: mason'd yo
[19/01/2012 12:36:29 AM] PCP: dude
[19/01/2012 12:36:31 AM] PCP: why'd you mason me
[19/01/2012 12:36:34 AM] PCP: lolol
[19/01/2012 12:36:36 AM] james: lulululululul
[19/01/2012 12:36:42 AM] james: i dunno
[19/01/2012 12:36:45 AM] james: why'd i mason incog?
[19/01/2012 12:36:52 AM] PCP: oh you masoned him yesterday?
[19/01/2012 12:37:10 AM] james: yep
[19/01/2012 12:37:30 AM] james: sandro incog you
[19/01/2012 12:37:53 AM] james: seems the more intelligent method of masoning atm
[19/01/2012 12:37:59 AM] PCP: okay
[19/01/2012 12:38:24 AM] PCP: I'm just a townie
[19/01/2012 12:38:28 AM] PCP: I'm sure kingjames is mafia
[19/01/2012 12:38:30 AM] james: so am I
[19/01/2012 12:38:35 AM] PCP: don't know how I feel about bill murray
[19/01/2012 12:38:39 AM] PCP: oh yeah you're the one that pushed him XD
[19/01/2012 12:38:50 AM] james: think I was going for him first? not sure
[19/01/2012 12:39:12 AM] PCP: just so many stupid people in the thread, I lose track easily of who wants to kill who x.x
[19/01/2012 12:40:04 AM] james: im honestly not sure how I feel about all the vet claiming
[19/01/2012 12:40:06 AM] james: hits
[19/01/2012 12:40:25 AM] james: + a claimed vig offing the gf. That seems like a really really really
[19/01/2012 12:40:39 AM] james: unlucky night considering bm was suppppposed to be on L
[19/01/2012 12:41:24 AM] james: also, there are at least 2
[19/01/2012 12:41:28 AM] james: non public claimed masons
[19/01/2012 12:41:30 AM] james: running around
[19/01/2012 12:41:41 AM] james: 1 of which is not posting in thread at all
[19/01/2012 12:41:57 AM] james: and bm would be able to tell you if the other was (provided he wasn't full of shit the day before)
[19/01/2012 12:45:07 AM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 12:45:11 AM] PCP: I'm going to be quite honest
[19/01/2012 12:45:16 AM] PCP: I'm only half reading the thread
[19/01/2012 12:45:44 AM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 12:46:27 AM] james: finding it painful to read?
[19/01/2012 12:46:56 AM] james: bm claimed hatter -_-
[19/01/2012 12:47:50 AM] PCP: strange
[19/01/2012 12:48:28 AM] PCP: also
[19/01/2012 12:48:35 AM] PCP: is there any chance any of the BGs are mafia?
[19/01/2012 12:48:44 AM] PCP: you obviously don't have to tell me if you're worried
[19/01/2012 12:48:48 AM] james: possible that at least one is
[19/01/2012 12:48:51 AM] PCP: or give me a vague response
[19/01/2012 12:48:51 AM] PCP: kk
[19/01/2012 12:49:09 AM] PCP: just you saying that is helpful for the future
[19/01/2012 12:49:16 AM] james: i can safetly rule out both roba and opz of being red
[19/01/2012 12:49:18 AM] james: together
[19/01/2012 12:49:20 AM] james: however
[19/01/2012 12:49:29 AM] james: 1 or the other being red is still a chance
[19/01/2012 12:49:34 AM] james: but both hell no
[19/01/2012 12:49:48 AM] PCP: I don't think sandroba is town
[19/01/2012 12:49:51 AM] PCP: he called out his gf if he is
[19/01/2012 12:49:57 AM] PCP: err I don't think he is mafia*
[19/01/2012 12:50:00 AM] james: he called out his gf
[19/01/2012 12:50:13 AM] james: he didnt want me offing you/protrac/palmar/bb/wheover else
[19/01/2012 12:50:14 AM] james: i listed originally
[19/01/2012 12:50:21 AM] james: but wanted macpo
[19/01/2012 12:50:22 AM] james: or ciry
[19/01/2012 12:50:27 AM] james: i seem to find it unlikely
[19/01/2012 12:50:32 AM] james: that he would keep pushing red targets as red
[19/01/2012 12:50:33 AM] PCP: okay good
[19/01/2012 12:50:40 AM] james: same reason I think incog is town
[19/01/2012 12:50:46 AM] james: the constant pushing of his own teammates
[19/01/2012 12:50:48 AM] james: just doesn't make sense
[19/01/2012 12:50:51 AM] james: offing 1 maybe
[19/01/2012 12:50:55 AM] james: 2 though?
[19/01/2012 12:51:01 AM] PCP: same here
[19/01/2012 12:51:02 AM] james: and being heavily responsibly for a 3rd?
[19/01/2012 12:51:10 AM] PCP: also his mafia list
[19/01/2012 12:51:11 AM] james: responsible*
[19/01/2012 12:51:14 AM] PCP: coincides with my own
[19/01/2012 12:51:16 AM] james: same
[19/01/2012 12:51:18 AM] PCP: err at least a lot of it
[19/01/2012 12:51:28 AM] james: the major reads
[19/01/2012 12:51:30 AM] james: we all had similar takes on
[19/01/2012 12:52:11 AM] PCP: yes
[19/01/2012 12:52:20 AM] PCP: I still think Opz might be mafia
[19/01/2012 12:52:31 AM] james: he hasn't done anything
[19/01/2012 12:52:32 AM] james: at all
[19/01/2012 12:52:37 AM] james: and normally he antagonizes me
[19/01/2012 12:52:40 AM] james: like no toooooomorrow
[19/01/2012 12:52:45 AM] PCP: normally he antagonizes everyone x.x
[19/01/2012 12:52:52 AM] james: hes super aggressive with me
[19/01/2012 12:52:55 AM] james: the fact he mason'd me
[19/01/2012 12:52:59 AM] james: and asked me for advice
[19/01/2012 12:53:08 AM] james: in a really, passive way
[19/01/2012 12:53:12 AM] james: was weird as fuck
[19/01/2012 12:53:25 AM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 12:53:43 AM] james: i still
[19/01/2012 12:53:45 AM] james: don't like jackal
[19/01/2012 12:53:53 AM] PCP: he shot L?
[19/01/2012 12:54:00 AM] james: and we have
[19/01/2012 12:54:05 AM] james: 3 vet claims?
[19/01/2012 12:54:14 AM] james: or at least 2 vet claims + 1 claimed hit from day 2
[19/01/2012 12:54:21 AM] PCP: kitaman was protted right?
[19/01/2012 12:54:30 AM] james: not sure, didnt he say he just took a hit?
[19/01/2012 12:54:39 AM] PCP: that was after night 1
[19/01/2012 12:55:30 AM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 12:55:44 AM] PCP: also
[19/01/2012 12:55:47 AM] PCP: whoever is directing mafia hits
[19/01/2012 12:55:51 AM] PCP: is blue sniping
[19/01/2012 12:55:52 AM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 12:56:00 AM] james: which mans
[19/01/2012 12:56:01 AM] james: means*
[19/01/2012 12:56:08 AM] james: semi decent player, and brb bathroom
[19/01/2012 12:56:14 AM] PCP: kk
[19/01/2012 12:56:30 AM] PCP: but I was thinking that
[19/01/2012 12:56:31 AM] PCP: mafia team of
[19/01/2012 12:56:42 AM] PCP: L, Bill Murray, BrownBear, kingjames, Opz
[19/01/2012 12:56:44 AM] PCP: would be fine
[19/01/2012 12:56:49 AM] PCP: considering you me and incog are all town
[19/01/2012 12:57:25 AM] PCP: toss in another decent player(scamp, bumatlarge, etc) or two and you got a solid mafia team for this game
[19/01/2012 12:57:37 AM] PCP: and meapak maybe in there
[19/01/2012 1:00:44 AM] james: ok, this isn't concrete but its a main thought as I just had it
[19/01/2012 1:00:53 AM] james: the "plan" was to jail L
[19/01/2012 1:01:04 AM] james: which mafia knew would lower the night kp
[19/01/2012 1:01:13 AM] james: is it beyond the realm of reason
[19/01/2012 1:01:26 AM] james: to have 1 of them shoot someone who was going to die anyway
[19/01/2012 1:01:28 AM] james: to gain cred?
[19/01/2012 1:01:35 AM] PCP: no way
[19/01/2012 1:01:36 AM] PCP: town cred is such a fickle thing
[19/01/2012 1:01:42 AM] PCP: and hardly anyone does stuff like that
[19/01/2012 1:01:52 AM] PCP: and the people who would do stuff like that (me)
[19/01/2012 1:01:56 AM] james: or me
[19/01/2012 1:01:58 AM] james: or incog
[19/01/2012 1:01:59 AM] james: or bm
[19/01/2012 1:02:00 AM] PCP: have an incredibly difficult time convincing other people to do it
[19/01/2012 1:02:02 AM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 1:02:02 AM] james: or L
[19/01/2012 1:02:18 AM] PCP: well we both know that we're good enough to do that plan and make it work
[19/01/2012 1:02:23 AM] PCP: problem is the newbies don't
[19/01/2012 1:02:32 AM] james: true
[19/01/2012 1:02:35 AM] james: but based on macpo's defense post
[19/01/2012 1:02:45 AM] james: i think its safe to say
[19/01/2012 1:02:50 AM] james: newbies on team are being coached
[19/01/2012 1:02:57 AM] PCP: sure
[19/01/2012 1:03:50 AM] PCP: if Bill Murray is mafia
[19/01/2012 1:03:53 AM] PCP: he wouldn't have jailed L
[19/01/2012 1:04:02 AM] PCP: if he was town, he wouldn't have jailed L
[19/01/2012 1:04:20 AM] james: bm is fucked lol
[19/01/2012 1:04:23 AM] james: in the head
[19/01/2012 1:04:24 AM] james: jesus
[19/01/2012 1:05:44 AM] james: and with that I gotta crash. long day + sick = tired bc. Talk to you later duder
[19/01/2012 1:06:44 AM] PCP: kk np
[19/01/2012 1:06:45 AM] PCP: ttyl
[19/01/2012 1:06:49 AM] PCP: also
[19/01/2012 1:06:54 AM] PCP: school got cancelled for me tomorrow
[19/01/2012 1:06:56 AM] PCP: so I'll be around all day
[19/01/2012 1:07:00 AM] PCP: so hit me up whenever
[19/01/2012 1:07:57 AM] james: kk
[19/01/2012 1:27:40 PM] james: random bit of info, if ve claims to use another power at any point in ghe game
[19/01/2012 1:27:43 PM] james: hes red
[19/01/2012 3:29:42 PM] PCP: why
[19/01/2012 3:44:25 PM] PCP: I'm pretty sure p4ndemik is town
[19/01/2012 3:49:28 PM] PCP: oh kingjames votes for p4ndemik
[19/01/2012 3:49:35 PM] PCP: yeah p4ndemik town XD
[19/01/2012 3:53:41 PM] PCP: kingjames soft claimed vet
[19/01/2012 3:53:45 PM] PCP: don't know if you saw that or not
[19/01/2012 4:01:08 PM] james: i did
[19/01/2012 4:01:12 PM] james: i say the bit about ve because
[19/01/2012 4:01:19 PM] james: hes claimed vet power
[19/01/2012 4:01:20 PM] james: and hes mason'd
[19/01/2012 4:01:23 PM] james: anythign else he does
[19/01/2012 4:01:25 PM] james: = he lied
[19/01/2012 4:01:26 PM] james: and is red
[19/01/2012 4:01:27 PM] PCP: who did you vote for for mayor?
[19/01/2012 4:01:33 PM] james: meapak
[19/01/2012 4:01:38 PM] PCP: do you know who sandroba voted for?
[19/01/2012 4:01:46 PM] james: he didnt vote in voting thread but threw down a vote for me in the thread itself
[19/01/2012 4:01:56 PM] james: so he didnt vote
[19/01/2012 4:01:58 PM] PCP: right
[19/01/2012 4:02:03 PM] james: also
[19/01/2012 4:02:10 PM] PCP: oops not you you voted correctly =P I meant protactinium
[19/01/2012 4:02:18 PM] james: incog didnt vote
[19/01/2012 4:02:23 PM] PCP: but he voted in thread
[19/01/2012 4:02:24 PM] james: oh
[19/01/2012 4:02:28 PM] james: not sure then
[19/01/2012 4:02:29 PM] PCP: like sandroba
[19/01/2012 4:02:41 PM] james: id have to check his filter
[19/01/2012 4:02:44 PM] james: KJ i think is red
[19/01/2012 4:02:48 PM] james: for a few reasons now moreso than before
[19/01/2012 4:02:54 PM] james: all analysis on him seems to be getting buried
[19/01/2012 4:03:01 PM] james: he only comes out really when pressured
[19/01/2012 4:03:14 PM] PCP: yes we need to kill KJ
[19/01/2012 4:03:15 PM] james: and he tried to pin you and protrac but instead found a random quote of p4n
[19/01/2012 4:03:18 PM] PCP: his vet claim doesn't make sense
[19/01/2012 4:03:20 PM] james: that made him leap out?
[19/01/2012 4:03:28 PM] james: he also said "i was trying to get hit"
[19/01/2012 4:03:35 PM] james: uh, if your heavily analyzed by 3 players who are all scumhunting
[19/01/2012 4:03:43 PM] james: mafia wont shoot you ever
[19/01/2012 4:03:58 PM] james: BM's hatter claim
[19/01/2012 4:03:59 PM] james: is fucked
[19/01/2012 4:05:20 PM] PCP: yeah that's a good point about KJ
[19/01/2012 4:05:39 PM] PCP: I never understand why you run for office if you're hatter, since your role is dependent on you dying
[19/01/2012 4:05:43 PM] PCP: same with veteran
[19/01/2012 4:05:47 PM] james: yep
[19/01/2012 4:05:52 PM] james: and then to say
[19/01/2012 4:05:54 PM] james: "i didnt do anything last night"
[19/01/2012 4:06:00 PM] PCP: though L has almost won as hatter
[19/01/2012 4:06:00 PM] james: via bomb drop
[19/01/2012 4:06:11 PM] james: OR sheriff ability?
[19/01/2012 4:07:12 PM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 4:07:15 PM] PCP: hmm
[19/01/2012 4:07:18 PM] PCP: you ever notice that
[19/01/2012 4:07:23 PM] PCP: Bill Murray only causes problems
[19/01/2012 4:07:25 PM] PCP: in games he's town
[19/01/2012 4:07:30 PM] james: hmm
[19/01/2012 4:07:30 PM] PCP: this game he's been on his best behavior
[19/01/2012 4:07:32 PM] PCP: lolol
[19/01/2012 4:07:35 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 4:07:41 PM] james: do you think his general meta
[19/01/2012 4:07:41 PM] james: is the same?
[19/01/2012 4:07:51 PM] james: i know hes spamming so little compared to normal
[19/01/2012 4:07:55 PM] PCP: it's close
[19/01/2012 4:08:01 PM] PCP: though he has to be on good behavior regardless
[19/01/2012 4:08:05 PM] PCP: since it's his first game back
[19/01/2012 4:08:05 PM] james: fair
[19/01/2012 4:08:12 PM] PCP: plus flamewheel might be warning him a bit
[19/01/2012 4:08:17 PM] james: oh, is it normal for a newer player
[19/01/2012 4:08:19 PM] james: to keep posting
[19/01/2012 4:08:24 PM] james: that they are right all the time on their reads?
[19/01/2012 4:08:25 PM] PCP: so don't think we can use post count to analyze
[19/01/2012 4:08:40 PM] PCP: if they are citi.zen and have a huge ego yeah
[19/01/2012 4:08:46 PM] james: like I can see saying "i fucking told you this guy aws red"
[19/01/2012 4:08:47 PM] james: or shit like that
[19/01/2012 4:08:50 PM] james: but to keep saying
[19/01/2012 4:08:55 PM] james: "i knew he was town, so read that guy as town"
[19/01/2012 4:09:16 PM] james: and fw has tos tart counting my vote
[19/01/2012 4:09:18 PM] james: correctly -_-
[19/01/2012 4:09:41 PM] PCP: haha flamewheel doing it just to laugh at you
[19/01/2012 4:10:06 PM] james: hmm?
[19/01/2012 4:10:17 PM] james: it messes up
[19/01/2012 4:10:19 PM] james: the voting #'s
[19/01/2012 4:10:57 PM] james: as a note, i believe
[19/01/2012 4:10:58 PM] james: glurio
[19/01/2012 4:10:59 PM] james: is red
[19/01/2012 4:11:18 PM] PCP: I could believe that
[19/01/2012 4:11:23 PM] james: he also replaced
[19/01/2012 4:11:25 PM] james: d3
[19/01/2012 4:11:33 PM] PCP: we're (by that I mean you me and Incog) are too focused on active/semi-active players
[19/01/2012 4:11:37 PM] PCP: there has to be more lurker mafia
[19/01/2012 4:11:43 PM] james: well, glurio my reasoning for is
[19/01/2012 4:11:50 PM] james: he has been active outside the thread
[19/01/2012 4:11:53 PM] james: while never posting in it
[19/01/2012 4:11:58 PM] james: -_- + hes a mason so
[19/01/2012 4:12:07 PM] PCP: he's a mason? o.O
[19/01/2012 4:12:07 PM] PCP: when did that happen
[19/01/2012 4:12:13 PM] james: yesterday
[19/01/2012 4:12:15 PM] james: he mason'd me
[19/01/2012 4:12:18 PM] PCP: ohh
[19/01/2012 4:12:19 PM] james: i heavily implied it to incog
[19/01/2012 4:12:23 PM] PCP: who he mason night 1?
[19/01/2012 4:12:30 PM] james: didn't talk to him tbh
[19/01/2012 4:12:34 PM] james: he mason'd me
[19/01/2012 4:12:34 PM] james: waited a day
[19/01/2012 4:12:36 PM] james: and sent me
[19/01/2012 4:12:49 PM] james: Hey so what do you think is our best course of action right now?
[19/01/2012 4:13:00 PM] james: and this is after you incog and myself
[19/01/2012 4:13:15 PM] james: were trying to get the lynch candidates narrowed down
[19/01/2012 4:13:20 PM] james: he also made some deal about promising
[19/01/2012 4:13:25 PM] james: to be active in thread
[19/01/2012 4:13:33 PM] james: early on and appeared to vote and vanish
[19/01/2012 4:13:45 PM] PCP: are you sure he's not bad townie?
[19/01/2012 4:13:49 PM] PCP: err
[19/01/2012 4:13:58 PM] PCP: if you were mafia, would you give him a mason power? lol
[19/01/2012 4:14:06 PM] james: well
[19/01/2012 4:14:17 PM] james: its easier to coach
[19/01/2012 4:14:19 PM] james: newer people as red
[19/01/2012 4:14:22 PM] james: in pm use
[19/01/2012 4:14:26 PM] james: than a townie having a mason role
[19/01/2012 4:14:35 PM] james: + promising shit in thread
[19/01/2012 4:14:42 PM] james: then doing fuck all
[19/01/2012 4:15:11 PM] james: and masoning a player who was trying to get people to only vote for two people
[19/01/2012 4:15:43 PM] PCP: yeah I mean
[19/01/2012 4:15:46 PM] PCP: without looking at his posts
[19/01/2012 4:15:50 PM] PCP: just seems like he's retarded
[19/01/2012 4:15:54 PM] james: would they have given the mason role
[19/01/2012 4:15:55 PM] james: to d3
[19/01/2012 4:15:59 PM] james: before he was subbed out?
[19/01/2012 4:16:06 PM] james: if so
[19/01/2012 4:16:11 PM] james: newbie would be stuck with it
[19/01/2012 4:16:17 PM] james: theres also apparently 1
[19/01/2012 4:16:26 PM] james: mason who went for bm
[19/01/2012 4:16:31 PM] PCP: yes but remember mafia almost never get replaced ^.^
[19/01/2012 4:16:34 PM] james: whos not claimed publically either
[19/01/2012 4:16:39 PM] james: eh?
[19/01/2012 4:16:44 PM] james: ive had reds replaced
[19/01/2012 4:16:45 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 4:17:20 PM] PCP: well yeah it happens
[19/01/2012 4:17:25 PM] PCP: just not as much
[19/01/2012 4:17:49 PM] james: fair
[19/01/2012 4:19:30 PM] james: on an unrelated note
[19/01/2012 4:19:35 PM] james: how does the US intend to prosecute
[19/01/2012 4:19:42 PM] james: a ton of people from megaupload
[19/01/2012 4:19:45 PM] james: if they aren't americans
[19/01/2012 4:19:55 PM] PCP: just shoot them
[19/01/2012 4:20:02 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 4:21:09 PM] PCP: hilariously there's probably some degree of truth to what I saw
[19/01/2012 4:21:29 PM] PCP: maybe megaupload will be the next excuse to invade whatever country the US wants to
[19/01/2012 4:22:48 PM] james: loool
[19/01/2012 4:23:54 PM] PCP: oh I think hiro protagonist is town
[19/01/2012 4:26:17 PM] PCP: cause his accusation against sandroba
[19/01/2012 4:26:28 PM] PCP: while nothing special, you can tell it's a honest effort to contribute
[19/01/2012 4:26:38 PM] PCP: and he's not trying to hide anything when he makes it
[19/01/2012 4:28:15 PM] james: most likely yes
[19/01/2012 4:28:22 PM] james: hiro is pretty genuine as town
[19/01/2012 5:52:31 PM] PCP: do you want to double lynch tomorrow?
[19/01/2012 5:57:08 PM] james: at the moment im not sure
[19/01/2012 5:57:19 PM] james: theres too many people trying to push their own agendas
[19/01/2012 5:57:31 PM] james: which means we need solid lynches today to get a good read for tommorrow
[19/01/2012 5:57:49 PM] PCP: hmm okay
[19/01/2012 5:58:01 PM] PCP: though we might want to doubly lynch anyways while you me and incog all have a chance to be alive with it XD
[19/01/2012 6:04:46 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 6:04:52 PM] james: selfish reasons
[19/01/2012 6:05:34 PM] PCP: well I don't trust anyone else with the lynches
[19/01/2012 6:06:56 PM] james: thats fair
[19/01/2012 6:07:19 PM] PCP: hahaha
[19/01/2012 7:31:55 PM] james: list of claimed masons just so its posted somewhere
[19/01/2012 7:32:12 PM] james: jitsu, supersoft, glurio, bloodyc0bbler, opz, (mattchew)
[19/01/2012 7:32:49 PM] james: List of jacks claimed - VE, who has used a mason ability, claims use of vet
[19/01/2012 7:49:00 PM] PCP: supersoft claimed?
[19/01/2012 7:49:01 PM] PCP: o.O
[19/01/2012 8:01:24 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 8:01:49 PM] james: theres one unconfirmed mason that mason'd bm apparently day 2
[19/01/2012 8:01:59 PM] james: so 7 masons, 1 jack
[19/01/2012 8:02:02 PM] james: all around in pms
[19/01/2012 8:02:09 PM] james: or VE is fake claiming his role
[19/01/2012 8:02:21 PM] PCP: I don't think VE is fake claiming
[19/01/2012 8:02:23 PM] PCP: personally I don't think anyone is fake cliaming
[19/01/2012 8:02:28 PM] PCP: except BM
[19/01/2012 8:02:39 PM] PCP: nobody else claimed under pressure or anyhting
[19/01/2012 8:03:10 PM] james: why are people unvoting kingjames -_-
[19/01/2012 8:03:24 PM] PCP: cause they are stupid
[19/01/2012 8:03:31 PM] PCP: we still have over 25 hours so I'm not terribly worried yet
[19/01/2012 8:03:37 PM] james: nor am i
[19/01/2012 8:03:40 PM] james: but hes accusing p4n
[19/01/2012 8:03:42 PM] james: of the same shit
[19/01/2012 8:03:45 PM] james: we are accusing him of
[19/01/2012 8:03:52 PM] james: and people are like "yea p4n useless"
[19/01/2012 8:04:23 PM] PCP: except p4n isn't
[19/01/2012 8:04:30 PM] PCP: have you looked through his posts?
[19/01/2012 8:04:36 PM] PCP: I haven't really gone through them thoroughly but
[19/01/2012 8:04:43 PM] PCP: don't really see how he can be mafia
[19/01/2012 8:06:35 PM] james: he seems like hes trying to contribute
[19/01/2012 8:06:39 PM] james: and just not hitting that mark
[19/01/2012 8:06:47 PM] james: i haven't seen anything "jump" worthy yet
[19/01/2012 8:07:31 PM] PCP: okay good
[19/01/2012 8:07:48 PM] james: toad
[19/01/2012 8:07:52 PM] james: is weird
[19/01/2012 8:07:53 PM] james: today
[19/01/2012 8:08:17 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=138#2749 thoughts on this?
[19/01/2012 8:08:17 PM] PCP: eh not really
[19/01/2012 8:08:19 PM] PCP: feels like yesterday
[19/01/2012 8:08:40 PM] PCP: dumb townie not making sense?
[19/01/2012 8:08:45 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 8:08:50 PM] PCP: I feel like we might be overthinking things
[19/01/2012 8:08:53 PM] PCP: like just today
[19/01/2012 8:08:57 PM] PCP: it's the same 5-10 people posting right
[19/01/2012 8:09:02 PM] james: pretty well
[19/01/2012 8:09:07 PM] PCP: what are the chances there are multiple mafia in there?
[19/01/2012 8:09:11 PM] PCP: next to none
[19/01/2012 8:09:14 PM] james: i kinda want to out glurio
[19/01/2012 8:09:17 PM] james: also
[19/01/2012 8:09:18 PM] PCP: exception of bill murray of course
[19/01/2012 8:09:19 PM] james: i think kita
[19/01/2012 8:09:21 PM] james: likely red
[19/01/2012 8:09:25 PM] PCP: kita got hit night 1?
[19/01/2012 8:09:30 PM] james: claimed hit night 1
[19/01/2012 8:09:35 PM] james: no medic
[19/01/2012 8:09:37 PM] james: confirmed
[19/01/2012 8:09:39 PM] james: obviously
[19/01/2012 8:09:41 PM] james: and if hes a vet
[19/01/2012 8:09:44 PM] james: thats 2 vets
[19/01/2012 8:09:51 PM] james: 4 vigis
[19/01/2012 8:09:52 PM] PCP: this is a 50 player game
[19/01/2012 8:09:53 PM] james: 1 jack
[19/01/2012 8:09:54 PM] PCP: and there are a lot of vigis
[19/01/2012 8:09:56 PM] james: 1 mher
[19/01/2012 8:09:59 PM] james: 7 masons
[19/01/2012 8:10:05 PM] james: if all claims are correct
[19/01/2012 8:10:11 PM] james: im assuming theres at least
[19/01/2012 8:10:15 PM] james: 1 fakeclaimer
[19/01/2012 8:10:21 PM] PCP: yeah but mason's aren't really a role though
[19/01/2012 8:10:27 PM] james: well its a role
[19/01/2012 8:10:30 PM] PCP: they don't affect the game in the same way
[19/01/2012 8:10:30 PM] james: just on both sides
[19/01/2012 8:16:03 PM] PCP: k
[19/01/2012 8:16:08 PM] PCP: anyways there's 7 mafia alive
[19/01/2012 8:16:08 PM] PCP: let's just go down the list
[19/01/2012 8:16:13 PM] PCP: and see what we think about every person
[19/01/2012 8:16:45 PM] PCP: kingjames we both think is mafia
[19/01/2012 8:16:50 PM] PCP: Cwave (who replaced refallen)
[19/01/2012 8:18:08 PM] PCP: inactive nub, his posts (which total like 5) show that he's interested in the town
[19/01/2012 8:19:36 PM] PCP: supersoft I'm pretty sure is town
[19/01/2012 8:19:37 PM] PCP: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=52#1030
[19/01/2012 8:19:44 PM] PCP: that post is pretty town oriented
[19/01/2012 8:20:47 PM] james: he seems it, but his contributions are meh
[19/01/2012 8:21:07 PM] james: slardar
[19/01/2012 8:21:12 PM] james: doesn't post
[19/01/2012 8:21:17 PM] james: inactive nub ran for office
[19/01/2012 8:21:54 PM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 8:21:58 PM] PCP: needs to be pressured
[19/01/2012 8:22:01 PM] PCP: probably will reveal himself
[19/01/2012 8:22:10 PM] james: risk.nuke
[19/01/2012 8:22:15 PM] james: ran for office
[19/01/2012 8:22:19 PM] james: again, hasn't done that much
[19/01/2012 8:22:25 PM] james: although hes been active
[19/01/2012 8:22:29 PM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 8:22:39 PM] PCP: his candidacy strikes me as a town
[19/01/2012 8:24:08 PM] james: kita
[19/01/2012 8:24:17 PM] james: atm i think is scumish as he hasn't done any solid contributing
[19/01/2012 8:24:52 PM] PCP: yeah but he took a hit
[19/01/2012 8:24:59 PM] PCP: and there is a hit unaccounted for
[19/01/2012 8:25:13 PM] james: true
[19/01/2012 8:25:26 PM] james: but that could mean a double stack
[19/01/2012 8:25:30 PM] james: as well
[19/01/2012 8:25:38 PM] PCP: on who?
[19/01/2012 8:26:02 PM] james: haha, kurumi maybe? although that woudl be a terribad choice
[19/01/2012 8:26:21 PM] PCP: looool
[19/01/2012 8:26:29 PM] james: but yea, hes kinda derping
[19/01/2012 8:26:30 PM] james: this game
[19/01/2012 8:26:35 PM] james: so even as town he hasn't done much
[19/01/2012 8:26:54 PM] james: Cybercheese?
[19/01/2012 8:26:59 PM] james: with all the people on his nuts
[19/01/2012 8:27:05 PM] james: im thinking bad town, but could also be
[19/01/2012 8:27:07 PM] james: terribad red
[19/01/2012 8:27:16 PM] james: hes inactive enough to go unnoticed for the most part
[19/01/2012 8:27:26 PM] PCP: cyber cheese?
[19/01/2012 8:27:27 PM] PCP: he has a lot of psots
[19/01/2012 8:27:37 PM] PCP: he's at 7 pages
[19/01/2012 8:27:39 PM] james: are they just total glaze over posts?
[19/01/2012 8:27:55 PM] james: as I don't remember seeing him post as instantly
[19/01/2012 8:27:59 PM] james: "WOW YOUR BAD"
[19/01/2012 8:28:01 PM] PCP: not particularly
[19/01/2012 8:28:02 PM] james: like day 1
[19/01/2012 8:28:05 PM] PCP: him derping
[19/01/2012 8:28:06 PM] PCP: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=113#2244
[19/01/2012 8:28:09 PM] PCP: that's the post of all the filters
[19/01/2012 8:28:11 PM] PCP: I just always have it open lol
[19/01/2012 8:28:20 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 8:30:52 PM] PCP: I don't think he'd be posting this much
[19/01/2012 8:30:53 PM] PCP: or this derpy
[19/01/2012 8:31:15 PM] james: whats your
[19/01/2012 8:31:19 PM] james: view on kenpachi?
[19/01/2012 8:31:29 PM] PCP: what about jayjay
[19/01/2012 8:31:59 PM] PCP: wow jayjay has a lot of posts
[19/01/2012 8:32:02 PM] james: tunneling townie?
[19/01/2012 8:32:02 PM] PCP: almost 10 pages
[19/01/2012 8:32:07 PM] james: he spent a fuck ton of time
[19/01/2012 8:32:09 PM] james: pushing me
[19/01/2012 8:32:43 PM] PCP: I assume his best argument was "cause I said so?"
[19/01/2012 8:32:57 PM] james: about it
[19/01/2012 8:33:02 PM] james: he doesn't read carefully enough
[19/01/2012 8:33:08 PM] james: and makes wtf arguments
[19/01/2012 8:33:17 PM] PCP: k easy read there
[19/01/2012 8:33:27 PM] PCP: reading kenpachi's filter now
[19/01/2012 8:33:48 PM] james: jesus, im on CC's filter
[19/01/2012 8:33:54 PM] james: and pages 1-3
[19/01/2012 8:33:56 PM] james: so fare
[19/01/2012 8:33:58 PM] james: are all day 1 -_-
[19/01/2012 8:34:05 PM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 8:35:04 PM] james: nah, hes town
[19/01/2012 8:35:08 PM] james: cc that is
[19/01/2012 8:35:16 PM] james: annoying
[19/01/2012 8:35:17 PM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 8:35:18 PM] james: as fuck town
[19/01/2012 8:35:23 PM] james: but his posts scream it
[19/01/2012 8:35:34 PM] james: bringing up excel one sec
[19/01/2012 8:35:38 PM] james: going to make better notes of this
[19/01/2012 8:36:27 PM] PCP: haha yeah I'm doing the same
[19/01/2012 8:36:46 PM] james: uh
[19/01/2012 8:36:48 PM] james: kenpachi wtf?
[19/01/2012 8:36:59 PM] james: aside from calling out blazhor
[19/01/2012 8:37:01 PM] james: hes done nothing
[19/01/2012 8:37:02 PM] james: -_-
[19/01/2012 8:37:25 PM] PCP: yeah I know
[19/01/2012 8:37:33 PM] PCP: definite suspect
[19/01/2012 8:38:11 PM] PCP: I'm leaning towards some sort of blue role
[19/01/2012 8:38:19 PM] PCP: but still a suspect of course
[19/01/2012 8:41:41 PM] PCP: Munk-E is strange
[19/01/2012 8:42:11 PM] james: munke and cwave
[19/01/2012 8:42:14 PM] james: scream newbie reds to me
[19/01/2012 8:42:20 PM] james: around just enough to escape
[19/01/2012 8:42:21 PM] james: modkills
[19/01/2012 8:42:29 PM] james: but not leaving any marks on the thread
[19/01/2012 8:42:58 PM] PCP: munk-E has that long analysis post
[19/01/2012 8:43:07 PM] PCP: which is definitely odd
[19/01/2012 8:43:32 PM] james: considering its only been the one?
[19/01/2012 8:43:44 PM] PCP: there are multiple reasons
[19/01/2012 8:43:48 PM] PCP: have you read through it carefully?
[19/01/2012 8:43:55 PM] PCP: I mean yeah, upfront it seems out of place for him
[19/01/2012 8:44:00 PM] james: let me read it in detail
[19/01/2012 8:44:12 PM] PCP: yeah he says a few things which are questionable to his role
[19/01/2012 8:46:34 PM] james: with all
[19/01/2012 8:46:38 PM] james: the shit he throws on me
[19/01/2012 8:46:39 PM] james: in that post
[19/01/2012 8:46:43 PM] james: how is it that he decided
[19/01/2012 8:46:44 PM] james: bm
[19/01/2012 8:46:45 PM] james: was the red?
[19/01/2012 8:47:01 PM] james: he chooses 2 of bms post
[19/01/2012 8:47:02 PM] james: s
[19/01/2012 8:47:05 PM] james: does like 1-2 lines
[19/01/2012 8:47:08 PM] james: and says red
[19/01/2012 8:47:08 PM] PCP: yeah I also like how he never says more than 3 lines about BM too
[19/01/2012 8:47:15 PM] james: meanwhile he heavy
[19/01/2012 8:47:18 PM] james: analyzes me and protrac
[19/01/2012 8:47:28 PM] PCP: and he never reaches a conclusion on you either
[19/01/2012 8:47:43 PM] james: no but he
[19/01/2012 8:47:44 PM] james: heavy
[19/01/2012 8:47:45 PM] james: implies
[19/01/2012 8:47:46 PM] james: scum
[19/01/2012 8:47:51 PM] james: he just doesn't say it
[19/01/2012 8:48:04 PM] PCP: yeah but his last paragraph about you is like, "well this is too complicated to have been set up by mafia"
[19/01/2012 8:48:26 PM] james: its a weird post
[19/01/2012 8:48:39 PM] james: he also hasnt posted
[19/01/2012 8:48:41 PM] james: in the main thread since
[19/01/2012 8:48:56 PM] james: wow that was on page 117
[19/01/2012 8:48:59 PM] PCP: correct
[19/01/2012 8:49:08 PM] PCP: does a big analysis but never follows up?
[19/01/2012 8:49:10 PM] PCP: shady
[19/01/2012 8:49:33 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 8:49:36 PM] james: very
[19/01/2012 8:50:36 PM] james: echelontee
[19/01/2012 8:51:03 PM] PCP: he said I was suspicious multiple times
[19/01/2012 8:51:12 PM] james: he says people are suspicious
[19/01/2012 8:51:15 PM] PCP: then he says
[19/01/2012 8:51:15 PM] PCP: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=77#1534
[19/01/2012 8:51:18 PM] PCP: (first line)
[19/01/2012 8:51:34 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 8:52:13 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=120#2391
[19/01/2012 8:52:15 PM] james: he posts this after
[19/01/2012 8:52:26 PM] james: which is a "i think x is mafia but i wont vote till others say its ok" in my head at least
[19/01/2012 8:52:44 PM] PCP: he practically says that XD
[19/01/2012 8:52:48 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 8:52:52 PM] james: like theres no
[19/01/2012 8:52:56 PM] james: certainty to his posts
[19/01/2012 8:53:05 PM] james: its all a tap dance to stay neutral
[19/01/2012 8:53:05 PM] PCP: his last post has promised analysis
[19/01/2012 8:53:15 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 8:53:16 PM] james: me
[19/01/2012 8:53:18 PM] james: sandroba
[19/01/2012 8:53:19 PM] james: and bm
[19/01/2012 8:53:44 PM] james: imo
[19/01/2012 8:53:47 PM] james: is almost a cop out
[19/01/2012 8:53:47 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 8:53:55 PM] james: with all the work on bm thus far and roba
[19/01/2012 8:54:02 PM] james: and with the amount of people who have attacked me
[19/01/2012 8:54:08 PM] james: its like hes taking easy options
[19/01/2012 8:54:14 PM] PCP: yeah
[19/01/2012 8:54:24 PM] james: if he doesn't bring in something new to his analysis
[19/01/2012 8:54:26 PM] james: deff red
[19/01/2012 8:54:45 PM] PCP: indeed
[19/01/2012 8:55:03 PM] PCP: meapak
[19/01/2012 8:55:05 PM] PCP: I still think he's red
[19/01/2012 8:55:58 PM] PCP: he was one of the first people to call out GGQ
[19/01/2012 8:56:00 PM] PCP: if not the first
[19/01/2012 8:56:26 PM] james: and he wont let go
[19/01/2012 8:57:15 PM] james: wow
[19/01/2012 8:57:18 PM] james: hes FoS ggq
[19/01/2012 8:57:19 PM] james: since
[19/01/2012 8:57:21 PM] james: his election post
[19/01/2012 8:57:25 PM] PCP: yes
[19/01/2012 8:57:30 PM] PCP: that's why I said he might have been the first
[19/01/2012 8:58:01 PM] james: oh, this is more as a random note
[19/01/2012 8:58:30 PM] james: and depending on your answer mean similar wavelengths. Based on how I outed myself + started the mason discussion
[19/01/2012 8:58:39 PM] james: were you in the camp of mass mason claim as pro
[19/01/2012 8:58:42 PM] james: or negative town
[19/01/2012 8:59:07 PM] PCP: negative
[19/01/2012 8:59:42 PM] PCP: I thought your claim was town though
[19/01/2012 9:01:13 PM] james: does meapak only ever
[19/01/2012 9:01:14 PM] james: tunnel
[19/01/2012 9:01:16 PM] james: 1 person?
[19/01/2012 9:01:28 PM] PCP: never seems like it
[19/01/2012 9:02:00 PM] PCP: the hard tunnelling is definitely out of character, not sure if it means much though
[19/01/2012 9:02:02 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=82024&user=82024
[19/01/2012 9:02:05 PM] james: didnt we have
[19/01/2012 9:02:10 PM] james: you + incog always wanting
[19/01/2012 9:02:11 PM] james: macpo
[19/01/2012 9:02:22 PM] james: why would he purposely ignore that player?
[19/01/2012 9:02:29 PM] james: oh shit
[19/01/2012 9:02:30 PM] james: wrong link
[19/01/2012 9:02:31 PM] james: one sec
[19/01/2012 9:02:40 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=94#1866
[19/01/2012 9:02:50 PM] PCP: yes
[19/01/2012 9:02:52 PM] PCP: that was why I said meapak was mafia
[19/01/2012 9:03:06 PM] PCP: there was a definite sign of him ignoring Macpo
[19/01/2012 9:03:19 PM] james: he also ignores
[19/01/2012 9:03:21 PM] james: all people
[19/01/2012 9:03:23 PM] james: cept ggq
[19/01/2012 9:03:28 PM] james: that you + me + incog
[19/01/2012 9:03:29 PM] james: mentioned
[19/01/2012 9:03:58 PM] james: like it took
[19/01/2012 9:04:02 PM] james: 2-3 vets
[19/01/2012 9:04:04 PM] james: to force him
[19/01/2012 9:04:06 PM] james: to vote swap
[19/01/2012 9:04:47 PM] james: then after the lynch he does
[19/01/2012 9:04:54 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=118#2343
[19/01/2012 9:05:57 PM] PCP: o.O
[19/01/2012 9:05:58 PM] PCP: strange
[19/01/2012 9:06:14 PM] james: followed by
[19/01/2012 9:06:16 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=120#2395
[19/01/2012 9:06:27 PM] james: he never once tried to stop getting roba or protrac
[19/01/2012 9:06:28 PM] james: lynched
[19/01/2012 9:06:30 PM] james: unless you count
[19/01/2012 9:06:33 PM] james: pushing ggq
[19/01/2012 9:06:36 PM] james: as attempting to stop
[19/01/2012 9:06:41 PM] PCP: good point
[19/01/2012 9:06:43 PM] james: but he has a post telling a newbie the only people on the docket
[19/01/2012 9:06:50 PM] james: were prot/roba/ggq
[19/01/2012 9:06:51 PM] james: -_-
[19/01/2012 9:06:56 PM] PCP: he also says he was never "opposed" to macpo, but that's cause he didn't say anything about him lol
[19/01/2012 9:07:02 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 9:07:18 PM] james: he then goes on to
[19/01/2012 9:07:21 PM] james: say
[19/01/2012 9:07:24 PM] james: right after that
[19/01/2012 9:07:27 PM] james: that we are offing ggq
[19/01/2012 9:07:29 PM] james: again
[19/01/2012 9:07:31 PM] james: -_-
[19/01/2012 9:07:51 PM] PCP: yeah too strange
[19/01/2012 9:08:54 PM] james: hes also
[19/01/2012 9:08:57 PM] james: defending bm
[19/01/2012 9:09:04 PM] PCP: how and where?
[19/01/2012 9:09:30 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=131#2614
[19/01/2012 9:09:31 PM] james: via
[19/01/2012 9:09:32 PM] james: L's flip
[19/01/2012 9:10:13 PM] PCP: ahhh yes
[19/01/2012 9:10:17 PM] PCP: though he does make a valid point
[19/01/2012 9:10:30 PM] james: L would have to call bm out via
[19/01/2012 9:10:32 PM] james: meta
[19/01/2012 9:10:33 PM] james: however
[19/01/2012 9:10:37 PM] PCP: he wasn't here for the days when L made posts like, "I'm running for office solely on the campaign of lynching Bill Murray"
[19/01/2012 9:10:39 PM] james: if bm is mafia L has to
[19/01/2012 9:10:40 PM] james: attack him
[19/01/2012 9:10:58 PM] james: it was brought up int hread though
[19/01/2012 9:11:10 PM] james: he also seems more worried about
[19/01/2012 9:11:14 PM] james: defending himself / his reads
[19/01/2012 9:11:18 PM] james: than doing anything else
[19/01/2012 9:11:43 PM] PCP: meapak is more worried about defending himself and his reads?
[19/01/2012 9:11:45 PM] james: and bm
[19/01/2012 9:11:47 PM] james: just claimed
[19/01/2012 9:11:48 PM] james: bomb on incog
[19/01/2012 9:11:49 PM] james: -_-
[19/01/2012 9:11:56 PM] james: look at his posts
[19/01/2012 9:11:59 PM] james: he pushes ggq like mad
[19/01/2012 9:12:08 PM] james: otherwise only reallyersponds
[19/01/2012 9:12:10 PM] james: when called out
[19/01/2012 9:12:13 PM] PCP: yes
[19/01/2012 9:12:41 PM] james: ok, bm outed cwave
[19/01/2012 9:12:42 PM] james: as a mason
[19/01/2012 9:13:15 PM] PCP: that's messed up
[19/01/2012 9:13:23 PM] PCP: girlfriend wants to make dinner now, so I'm going to go do that
[19/01/2012 9:13:25 PM] PCP: I'll be back later
[19/01/2012 9:13:49 PM] james: kk
[19/01/2012 10:07:11 PM] PCP: hey has kingjames been after you all game?
[19/01/2012 10:07:20 PM] james: since day 2
[19/01/2012 10:07:25 PM] james: err since day 1
[19/01/2012 10:07:26 PM] james: actually
[19/01/2012 10:07:27 PM] PCP: ah okay
[19/01/2012 10:07:28 PM] james: he did a bit
[19/01/2012 10:07:34 PM] james: where he tried to discredit my mason claim
[19/01/2012 10:07:37 PM] james: by calling me the mafia jack
[19/01/2012 10:07:38 PM] PCP: yeah I remember now
[19/01/2012 10:07:45 PM] james: which was the first post
[19/01/2012 10:07:51 PM] james: that tipped me into looking at him
[19/01/2012 10:10:09 PM] PCP: mmk
[19/01/2012 10:10:13 PM] PCP: you think Opz is mafia?
[19/01/2012 10:11:16 PM] james: potentially
[19/01/2012 10:11:24 PM] james: he had none of his normal
[19/01/2012 10:11:30 PM] james: aggressive dealings with me
[19/01/2012 10:11:39 PM] james: began talking to me with trying to get my opinion on if he should claim or not
[19/01/2012 10:11:44 PM] james: and claimed before getting said opinion
[19/01/2012 10:11:44 PM] PCP: or with anyone for that matter
[19/01/2012 10:11:46 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 10:11:50 PM] james: he has been insanely
[19/01/2012 10:11:51 PM] james: passive
[19/01/2012 10:11:54 PM] james: and non existant
[19/01/2012 10:12:08 PM] PCP: did he mason you?
[19/01/2012 10:12:39 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 10:12:41 PM] james: i masoned roba
[19/01/2012 10:12:43 PM] james: he masoned me
[19/01/2012 10:12:46 PM] james: he = opz
[19/01/2012 10:12:52 PM] PCP: mmk
[19/01/2012 10:13:24 PM] PCP: wherebugsgo I don't think I've ever read any of his posts
[19/01/2012 10:15:13 PM] PCP: BrownBear is =/
[19/01/2012 10:15:23 PM] PCP: says he's suspicious of kenpachi, says he will analyze but doesn't
[19/01/2012 10:15:27 PM] PCP: has made garbage posts
[19/01/2012 10:21:33 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 10:21:43 PM] james: bb has been useless
[19/01/2012 10:21:54 PM] james: the only "point in his favour" is i've never seen him online
[19/01/2012 10:21:58 PM] james: at any point this game
[19/01/2012 10:22:05 PM] PCP: oh you have his skype?
[19/01/2012 10:22:07 PM] james: skype list abuse ftw
[19/01/2012 10:22:08 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 10:22:15 PM] PCP: mmk
[19/01/2012 10:22:19 PM] PCP: I mean he said he was busy for day 1
[19/01/2012 10:22:21 PM] PCP: and that's fine
[19/01/2012 10:22:22 PM] james: more damning is
[19/01/2012 10:22:22 PM] PCP: but since then
[19/01/2012 10:22:23 PM] james: kenpachi
[19/01/2012 10:22:26 PM] james: has been online
[19/01/2012 10:22:29 PM] james: all the gd time
[19/01/2012 10:22:31 PM] james: and is never posting
[19/01/2012 10:22:37 PM] PCP: haha yeah
[19/01/2012 10:22:38 PM] PCP: I was playing LoL with him the other day
[19/01/2012 10:26:43 PM] james: ugh
[19/01/2012 10:26:52 PM] james: KJ appears to be just wasting
[19/01/2012 10:26:55 PM] james: fucking threadspace
[19/01/2012 10:28:12 PM] PCP: yes he is
[19/01/2012 10:28:25 PM] PCP: since we're at BM on the list
[19/01/2012 10:28:29 PM] PCP: we should discuss what we want to do with him today
[19/01/2012 10:28:39 PM] james: uneasy about his lynch purely at how no one seems to bat an eye
[19/01/2012 10:28:40 PM] james: over it
[19/01/2012 10:28:47 PM] james: except for him
[19/01/2012 10:29:02 PM] PCP: I suppose
[19/01/2012 10:29:12 PM] PCP: but I mean if he's telling the truth then Incog
[19/01/2012 10:29:27 PM] james: yeah
[19/01/2012 10:29:29 PM] james: but like
[19/01/2012 10:29:33 PM] james: wouldnt
[19/01/2012 10:29:36 PM] james: a townie bm
[19/01/2012 10:29:38 PM] james: do that
[19/01/2012 10:29:40 PM] james: if hes mafia
[19/01/2012 10:29:43 PM] james: hed lie
[19/01/2012 10:29:46 PM] james: because hed have no bomb
[19/01/2012 10:29:47 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 10:30:07 PM] PCP: well he couldn't be lying
[19/01/2012 10:30:17 PM] PCP: it's a good lie
[19/01/2012 10:30:26 PM] james: i know he hates getting lynched
[19/01/2012 10:30:27 PM] james: period
[19/01/2012 10:30:38 PM] james: I kinda am hoping incog comes in
[19/01/2012 10:30:51 PM] james: and posts along the lines of "im fine with dying if it means offing him" my only dread is
[19/01/2012 10:30:54 PM] james: they both flip town
[19/01/2012 10:30:56 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 10:31:14 PM] james: as i know exactly where that would lead
[19/01/2012 10:31:31 PM] PCP: XD
[19/01/2012 10:31:32 PM] PCP: indeed
[19/01/2012 10:31:36 PM] PCP: I mean
[19/01/2012 10:31:38 PM] PCP: we should keep him alive
[19/01/2012 10:31:47 PM] PCP: incog's days are numbered as it is
[19/01/2012 10:31:56 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 10:31:56 PM] PCP: if mafia don't want to kill him...well lol
[19/01/2012 10:32:03 PM] james: if they dont off him or you
[19/01/2012 10:32:03 PM] PCP: I'm fine with him staying alive forever
[19/01/2012 10:32:06 PM] james: id be like
[19/01/2012 10:32:07 PM] james: wtf?
[19/01/2012 10:32:20 PM] james: id love to do the general post in thread going
[19/01/2012 10:32:33 PM] james: "as a note guys, im basically confirmed as id fucking stack rape incog / foolishness anyday this game"
[19/01/2012 10:32:34 PM] james: -_-
[19/01/2012 10:32:46 PM] PCP: hahaha
[19/01/2012 10:32:49 PM] james: day 1
[19/01/2012 10:32:51 PM] james: 5 kp
[19/01/2012 10:32:52 PM] PCP: then everyone would scream WIFOM WIFROM
[19/01/2012 10:32:55 PM] james: 3 and 2
[19/01/2012 10:33:00 PM] PCP: 5kp?
[19/01/2012 10:33:01 PM] james: just get rid of you too
[19/01/2012 10:33:05 PM] james: they have a jack
[19/01/2012 10:33:08 PM] james: use a vig shot
[19/01/2012 10:33:08 PM] james: ensure
[19/01/2012 10:33:10 PM] james: eaths
[19/01/2012 10:33:11 PM] PCP: how do you know they have a jack?
[19/01/2012 10:33:15 PM] james: it says in OP
[19/01/2012 10:33:16 PM] james: they choose
[19/01/2012 10:33:40 PM] james: to quote the relevant line
[19/01/2012 10:33:57 PM] james: "you also must choose the godfather, roleblocker, jack and or framer among yourselves"
[19/01/2012 10:34:07 PM] PCP: OH
[19/01/2012 10:34:12 PM] PCP: they for sure have 1 each of those 4 roles
[19/01/2012 10:34:15 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 10:34:26 PM] PCP: but why does the op have ? of ? ...remain?
[19/01/2012 10:34:28 PM] james: and they have a pre generated mafia only know # of masons
[19/01/2012 10:34:34 PM] PCP: right
[19/01/2012 10:34:39 PM] james: because fw is a giant troll -_-
[19/01/2012 10:34:55 PM] james: he doesnt count my x3 votes
[19/01/2012 10:35:20 PM] PCP: lolol
[19/01/2012 10:35:44 PM] james: the fact you and incog are still alive
[19/01/2012 10:36:24 PM] james: means that a) one of the two of you are red b) both are red (fucking unlikely that you'd grape rape three of your members for town cred) or c) both town and mafia is afraid of medics
[19/01/2012 10:36:27 PM] james: and hates stacking hits?
[19/01/2012 10:36:39 PM] james: or hoping that you + me + incog will start cluster hating eachother
[19/01/2012 10:36:43 PM] james: and all rape eachother
[19/01/2012 10:36:46 PM] PCP: I'm sure they are hoping for that
[19/01/2012 10:36:56 PM] PCP: also it's incredibly clear that mafia are blue sniping
[19/01/2012 10:36:58 PM] PCP: so they don't care
[19/01/2012 10:36:59 PM] james: given day 1
[19/01/2012 10:37:01 PM] PCP: at least at this point
[19/01/2012 10:37:05 PM] james: incog and I were heavy against eachother
[19/01/2012 10:37:11 PM] james: yes
[19/01/2012 10:37:13 PM] james: whoever it is
[19/01/2012 10:37:16 PM] james: is clearly blue sniping
[19/01/2012 10:37:22 PM] james: is L a good sniper?
[19/01/2012 10:37:32 PM] PCP: no not traditionally
[19/01/2012 10:37:56 PM] PCP: I'll ask Ver for confirmation
[19/01/2012 10:38:12 PM] james: like of the list of people capable of sniping
[19/01/2012 10:38:15 PM] james: id list you
[19/01/2012 10:38:16 PM] james: me
[19/01/2012 10:38:16 PM] PCP: you me and incog
[19/01/2012 10:38:18 PM] PCP: XD
[19/01/2012 10:38:18 PM] james: and incog
[19/01/2012 10:38:19 PM] james: lol
[19/01/2012 10:38:20 PM] james: yea
[19/01/2012 10:38:24 PM] james: but my style of shots
[19/01/2012 10:38:31 PM] james: always aims for analyzers first
[19/01/2012 10:38:32 PM] PCP: meapak maybe?
[19/01/2012 10:38:35 PM] james: as I fear them more
[19/01/2012 10:38:39 PM] james: possibly
[19/01/2012 10:38:45 PM] james: he seems red
[19/01/2012 10:38:46 PM] james: as hell
[19/01/2012 10:38:50 PM] PCP: brownbear is a thread controller, not a blue sniper
[19/01/2012 10:38:53 PM] PCP: not him
[19/01/2012 10:38:57 PM] james: also this will be wifom as hell but
[19/01/2012 10:39:03 PM] PCP: bum is the same way
[19/01/2012 10:39:07 PM] PCP: scamp? don't know
[19/01/2012 10:39:09 PM] james: with everyone who keeps trying to keep attention off KJ
[19/01/2012 10:39:15 PM] james: if he flips red
[19/01/2012 10:39:18 PM] james: deff a mafia power role
[19/01/2012 10:39:38 PM] PCP: maybe
[19/01/2012 10:39:42 PM] james: he however is insanely
[19/01/2012 10:39:43 PM] james: smart
[19/01/2012 10:39:47 PM] james: i've been red with him before
[19/01/2012 10:39:50 PM] james: I could see him sniping
[19/01/2012 10:40:10 PM] james: oh, did anyone claim
[19/01/2012 10:40:13 PM] PCP: yeah but not this well
[19/01/2012 10:40:15 PM] james: the ciry
[19/01/2012 10:40:16 PM] james: shot?
[19/01/2012 10:40:23 PM] PCP: no don't think so
[19/01/2012 10:40:27 PM] james: because L claimed rb
[19/01/2012 10:40:30 PM] james: and flipped gf
[19/01/2012 10:40:33 PM] james: so chances are
[19/01/2012 10:40:37 PM] james: kurumi was rbed
[19/01/2012 10:41:01 PM] PCP: chances are they didn't use their roleblock?
[19/01/2012 10:41:08 PM] PCP: dude c'mon
[19/01/2012 10:41:12 PM] PCP: would you roleblock kurumi?
[19/01/2012 10:41:16 PM] PCP: when myself and incog are around?
[19/01/2012 10:41:18 PM] james: if he claimed shooting one of my team?
[19/01/2012 10:41:22 PM] PCP: and clearly they are able to find blues to roleblock
[19/01/2012 10:41:22 PM] james: id rb and fire
[19/01/2012 10:41:23 PM] james: tbh
[19/01/2012 10:41:33 PM] james: considering people were speculating
[19/01/2012 10:41:34 PM] james: he shot
[19/01/2012 10:41:34 PM] james: ciry
[19/01/2012 10:41:40 PM] james: when he never even looked at the guy
[19/01/2012 10:41:50 PM] PCP: well if someone else did
[19/01/2012 10:41:52 PM] james: i rb and shoot
[19/01/2012 10:41:53 PM] PCP: they aren't telling
[19/01/2012 10:41:56 PM] james: fairly frequently
[19/01/2012 10:42:03 PM] james: best way to blue snipe imo
[19/01/2012 10:42:16 PM] james: only time I don't is if im controlling said blue im about to kill
[19/01/2012 10:42:51 PM] PCP: I mean if mafia have a roleblocker (which you and the OP says they do)
[19/01/2012 10:42:53 PM] PCP: wtf are they doing with it?
[19/01/2012 10:43:06 PM] PCP: faking it on L?
[19/01/2012 10:43:08 PM] james: no fucking clue?
[19/01/2012 10:43:09 PM] PCP: stacking a hit with it?
[19/01/2012 10:43:13 PM] james: stacking hit
[19/01/2012 10:43:14 PM] james: makes most sense
[19/01/2012 10:43:19 PM] james: otherwise not using
[19/01/2012 10:43:19 PM] PCP: at this point in the game?
[19/01/2012 10:43:19 PM] james: at all
[19/01/2012 10:43:21 PM] PCP: huge game
[19/01/2012 10:43:29 PM] james: thats fair
[19/01/2012 10:43:52 PM] PCP: that would mean they are trying to find veterans
[19/01/2012 10:44:03 PM] PCP: I think there are more concerning blue roles than veterans running around
[19/01/2012 10:44:11 PM] PCP: especially since no mason has died (exception of mattchew)
[19/01/2012 10:44:49 PM] james: well mafia have to have
[19/01/2012 10:44:51 PM] james: at least 1 mason
[19/01/2012 10:44:53 PM] james: running around
[19/01/2012 10:44:57 PM] james: not killing masons
[19/01/2012 10:45:00 PM] james: keeps that one alive longer
[19/01/2012 10:45:24 PM] PCP: well presumably mafia has like 4 masons
[19/01/2012 10:45:25 PM] james: jitsu and cwave
[19/01/2012 10:45:28 PM] james: apparently have
[19/01/2012 10:45:30 PM] james: bg names
[19/01/2012 10:45:31 PM] james: in full
[19/01/2012 10:45:48 PM] PCP: how and why
[19/01/2012 10:45:50 PM] james: -_- I at least encrypted them before handing them out
[19/01/2012 10:45:53 PM] james: bm gave them out
[19/01/2012 10:45:54 PM] james: to them
[19/01/2012 10:46:00 PM] james: claimed he did in thread
[19/01/2012 10:46:03 PM] james: jitsu has confirmed he has them
[19/01/2012 10:46:06 PM] james: well has names
[19/01/2012 10:46:07 PM] james: at least
[19/01/2012 10:46:12 PM] james: whether or not bm gave the real names
[19/01/2012 10:46:18 PM] james: is up to debate
[19/01/2012 10:46:33 PM] PCP: that's strange
[19/01/2012 10:46:41 PM] PCP: err let's assume that BM handed up the real names
[19/01/2012 10:46:44 PM] PCP: why would he do such a thing?
[19/01/2012 10:46:49 PM] james: no fucking clue
[19/01/2012 10:46:55 PM] PCP: cause he's BM? XD
[19/01/2012 10:46:55 PM] james: his entire play
[19/01/2012 10:46:56 PM] james: makes no sense
[19/01/2012 10:47:01 PM] james: aside from its bm
[19/01/2012 10:47:12 PM] james: however a mafia bm
[19/01/2012 10:47:17 PM] james: wouldnt have to hand the names out
[19/01/2012 10:47:22 PM] james: as his team would have them
[19/01/2012 10:47:31 PM] james: and I had already encryted and sent out
[19/01/2012 10:47:43 PM] james: a town bm wouldnt either as id have already encrypted and sent out
[19/01/2012 10:47:45 PM] james: the only thing I can see
[19/01/2012 10:47:46 PM] james: is he lied
[19/01/2012 10:47:52 PM] james: in hopes they would shoot the random names he gave
[19/01/2012 10:48:04 PM] james: to out 1 or 2 people as red
[19/01/2012 10:48:21 PM] james: but its bm, and just going "here you go" is always in the realm of reason -_-
[19/01/2012 10:50:06 PM] PCP: XD XD
[19/01/2012 10:50:10 PM] PCP: yeah don't know
[19/01/2012 10:50:14 PM] PCP: well that aside
[19/01/2012 10:50:21 PM] PCP: it seems like both of us feel like we shouldn't kill him today
[19/01/2012 10:50:32 PM] PCP: or at least we're both hesitating
[19/01/2012 10:50:34 PM] PCP: so we need another target
[19/01/2012 10:51:40 PM] PCP: want to continue down the list then afterwards debate second lynch candidate?
[19/01/2012 10:53:51 PM] james: let me finish throwing up a post im making at kj
[19/01/2012 10:53:54 PM] james: as for a second
[19/01/2012 10:53:57 PM] james: meapak seems
[19/01/2012 10:53:57 PM] PCP: kk
[19/01/2012 10:53:58 PM] james: solidish
[19/01/2012 10:54:03 PM] james: before we finish the list that is
[19/01/2012 10:54:10 PM] james: he seems one of the more sketch
[19/01/2012 10:54:11 PM] PCP: yeah but keep in mind we have to pick someone who we can convince the town
[19/01/2012 10:54:11 PM] james: players
[19/01/2012 10:54:16 PM] james: fair
[19/01/2012 10:54:21 PM] PCP: I'm not sure if meapak qualifies for that
[19/01/2012 10:58:06 PM] PCP: Ver says that L isn't a good blue sniper
[19/01/2012 11:30:28 PM] PCP: blahz0r
[19/01/2012 11:30:29 PM] PCP: mafia
[19/01/2012 11:30:31 PM] PCP: calling it now
[19/01/2012 11:30:41 PM] james: his posting
[19/01/2012 11:30:43 PM] james: seems funky
[19/01/2012 11:30:44 PM] james: as fuck
[19/01/2012 11:31:03 PM] PCP: he has yet to contribute his own thoughts
[19/01/2012 11:31:58 PM] PCP: he just posts what others are posting
[19/01/2012 11:32:05 PM] PCP: kinda sheeps along
[19/01/2012 11:32:12 PM] james: yep
[19/01/2012 11:46:53 PM] PCP: was igabod replaced?
[19/01/2012 11:47:55 PM] PCP: nevermind found it
[20/01/2012 12:01:08 AM] PCP: bumatlarge is like
[20/01/2012 12:01:12 AM] PCP: super serious when he's mafia right?
[20/01/2012 12:01:24 AM] james: hes aggressive
[20/01/2012 12:01:26 AM] james: pyp3
[20/01/2012 12:01:28 AM] james: he went hardcore
[20/01/2012 12:01:33 AM] james: active
[20/01/2012 12:01:39 AM] james: tried to get me lynched in thread
[20/01/2012 12:01:41 AM] james: hardcore
[20/01/2012 12:01:45 AM] PCP: okay so he's 99% town this game yeah?
[20/01/2012 12:01:49 AM] james: i have that read on him
[20/01/2012 12:02:00 AM] PCP: well he's kinda silly in his normal batman way
[20/01/2012 12:02:59 AM] james: yea
[20/01/2012 12:03:14 AM] james: that took
[20/01/2012 12:03:15 AM] james: way to much time of my life
[20/01/2012 12:03:18 AM] james: to do
[20/01/2012 12:03:20 AM] james: fuck kingjames
[20/01/2012 12:03:51 AM] PCP: oh snap that's a long post
[20/01/2012 12:04:00 AM] james: near post by post analysis
[20/01/2012 12:04:02 AM] james: raping
[20/01/2012 12:04:12 AM] james: his fing face in
[20/01/2012 12:04:45 AM] james: I could easily see p4n as a mafia bussing a mafia
[20/01/2012 12:04:53 AM] PCP: I don't think so
[20/01/2012 12:04:54 AM] james: as he tried to build cred
[20/01/2012 12:04:57 AM] james: but p4n's posts
[20/01/2012 12:04:59 AM] PCP: p4n is too honest
[20/01/2012 12:05:01 AM] james: are clearly contributing
[20/01/2012 12:05:26 AM] james: hes not doing so with long posts
[20/01/2012 12:05:34 AM] james: but his posts typically do have reason behind them
[20/01/2012 12:05:41 AM] james: and are all mostly valid
[20/01/2012 12:06:01 AM] james: oh
[20/01/2012 12:06:07 AM] james: kingjames called out blazor once
[20/01/2012 12:06:11 AM] james: is up as a lynch target
[20/01/2012 12:06:16 AM] PCP: interesting
[20/01/2012 12:06:18 AM] james: says he agrees that offing bm
[20/01/2012 12:06:21 AM] james: is a good choice
[20/01/2012 12:06:23 AM] PCP: link?
[20/01/2012 12:06:26 AM] james: but doesnt know who to vote for second
[20/01/2012 12:06:38 AM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=128#2544
[20/01/2012 12:07:16 AM] james: his next post is this gem
[20/01/2012 12:07:22 AM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=2562&topic_id=253716
[20/01/2012 12:07:36 AM] james: and his last post was that "why did we double lynch without a suitable second target" while actively
[20/01/2012 12:07:37 AM] james: dodging
[20/01/2012 12:07:39 AM] james: kingjames
[20/01/2012 12:07:41 AM] PCP: yeah he has a bunch of meaningless posts
[20/01/2012 12:07:45 AM] PCP: oh snap
[20/01/2012 12:07:49 AM] james: like
[20/01/2012 12:07:51 AM] james: massive heat
[20/01/2012 12:07:54 AM] james: is on a second lynch choice
[20/01/2012 12:07:59 AM] james: and you dodge it? without explaining why
[20/01/2012 12:08:09 AM] james: id say it pretty much confirms both as red
[20/01/2012 12:09:18 AM] james: or am i reading far to much into it?
[20/01/2012 12:09:38 AM] PCP: no that's good
[20/01/2012 12:09:40 AM] PCP: that's ammo we need
[20/01/2012 12:11:37 AM] james: -_- i really wish
[20/01/2012 12:11:39 AM] james: incog would post today
[20/01/2012 12:12:21 AM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=142#2825 the last post i just referred to
[20/01/2012 12:12:34 AM] james: yay for emoticon at the end?
[20/01/2012 12:14:07 AM] PCP: yeah good job
[20/01/2012 12:14:09 AM] PCP: lol
[20/01/2012 12:14:10 AM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 12:15:36 AM] james: jaj replaced igabod right?
[20/01/2012 12:16:52 AM] PCP: yes
[20/01/2012 12:17:08 AM] james: kk
[20/01/2012 12:17:26 AM] james: correctly edit spreadsheet lol
[20/01/2012 12:17:41 AM] PCP: jaj22
[20/01/2012 12:17:44 AM] PCP: pretty sure he's green
[20/01/2012 12:17:52 AM] james: hasn't said anything that stands out yet
[20/01/2012 12:21:02 AM] james: thoughts on lanaia
[20/01/2012 12:21:04 AM] james: ?
[20/01/2012 12:21:15 AM] PCP: probably town
[20/01/2012 12:21:21 AM] PCP: seems like she's voicing her opinion
[20/01/2012 12:21:28 AM] PCP: doesn't seem to hesitate
[20/01/2012 12:21:59 AM] james: evantrees and chaosquo?
[20/01/2012 12:23:25 AM] PCP: but very suspicious
[20/01/2012 12:23:30 AM] PCP: but both haven't posted for ~48 hours
[20/01/2012 12:23:32 AM] PCP: both*
[20/01/2012 12:23:37 AM] PCP: both* very suspicious
[20/01/2012 12:23:41 AM] james: evan analyzed sandro
[20/01/2012 12:23:42 AM] james: rofl
[20/01/2012 12:23:44 AM] james: everyone
[20/01/2012 12:23:47 AM] james: analyzing
[20/01/2012 12:23:48 AM] james: sandro
[20/01/2012 12:23:49 AM] james: so hard
[20/01/2012 12:24:10 AM] PCP: he's always easy to analyze
[20/01/2012 12:24:13 AM] james: he has a red read on hiro apparently
[20/01/2012 12:24:38 AM] james: the thing that baffles me
[20/01/2012 12:24:49 AM] james: is the post he has an issue with of hiro's to say hes suspcious
[20/01/2012 12:24:54 AM] james: is an analysis of sandro
[20/01/2012 12:25:01 AM] PCP: loool
[20/01/2012 12:25:01 AM] james: then he instantly analyzes sandro himself -_-
[20/01/2012 12:25:10 AM] PCP: do know sandroba's alignment from talking to him day 1?
[20/01/2012 12:25:20 AM] james: im leaning town based on his actions
[20/01/2012 12:25:26 AM] james: hes useless as fuck
[20/01/2012 12:25:39 AM] james: but had red reads on
[20/01/2012 12:25:42 AM] james: ciry macpo
[20/01/2012 12:25:49 AM] james: and pushed L briefly
[20/01/2012 12:25:52 AM] james: before near everyone
[20/01/2012 12:26:27 AM] james: seems very unlikely
[20/01/2012 12:26:31 AM] james: that a townie would out
[20/01/2012 12:26:36 AM] james: 3 reds
[20/01/2012 12:26:47 AM] PCP: yeah
[20/01/2012 12:26:48 AM] james: err unlikely that a red would out 3 reds
[20/01/2012 12:26:52 AM] james: one being the gf
[20/01/2012 12:27:06 AM] james: while also trying to stop me from doing somethign stupid
[20/01/2012 12:27:10 AM] james: like offing protrac
[20/01/2012 12:27:15 AM] james: whos helped catch those same reds -_-
[20/01/2012 12:27:23 AM] PCP: mmk
[20/01/2012 12:27:34 AM] james: could he have fooled me good? possibly
[20/01/2012 12:27:39 AM] james: but logically It doesn't make sense
[20/01/2012 12:27:46 AM] james: so if he wants to keep outing his team if hes red to survive
[20/01/2012 12:27:49 AM] james: im fine with it
[20/01/2012 12:28:54 AM] PCP: haha yup
[20/01/2012 12:29:27 AM] james: huge post by meapak
[20/01/2012 12:29:28 AM] james: against opz
[20/01/2012 12:29:33 AM] PCP: yeah I'm reading it now
[20/01/2012 12:30:59 AM] PCP: has Opz posted much today?
[20/01/2012 12:31:32 AM] PCP: dang, his last post was on page 117
[20/01/2012 12:31:51 AM] james: yea thats rough
[20/01/2012 12:32:17 AM] james: roflll
[20/01/2012 12:32:19 AM] james: nisani of all people
[20/01/2012 12:32:20 AM] james: called
[20/01/2012 12:32:24 AM] james: meapak
[20/01/2012 12:32:25 AM] james: out
[20/01/2012 12:32:26 AM] james: ROFL
[20/01/2012 12:33:23 AM] PCP: hahaha
[20/01/2012 12:33:25 AM] PCP: got to love nisani
[20/01/2012 12:33:35 AM] james: sad thing is
[20/01/2012 12:33:39 AM] james: hes not horrid off the mark
[20/01/2012 12:34:53 AM] PCP: I know
[20/01/2012 12:41:22 AM] PCP: is Scamp town?
[20/01/2012 12:45:57 AM] james: does scamp every analyze people
[20/01/2012 12:45:58 AM] james: in games?
[20/01/2012 12:46:06 AM] PCP: not sure
[20/01/2012 12:48:54 AM] james: he hasnt done alot
[20/01/2012 12:48:55 AM] james: of meaningful posts
[20/01/2012 12:48:57 AM] james: like at all
[20/01/2012 12:49:02 AM] james: he seems to be skirting
[20/01/2012 12:49:11 AM] james: or skating rather
[20/01/2012 12:49:14 AM] james: doing "townie" posts
[20/01/2012 12:49:18 AM] james: without offering much opinion of himself
[20/01/2012 12:49:37 AM] james: he speculates on if sheth used his shot
[20/01/2012 12:53:22 AM] PCP: mmk so looks like if kingjames is mafia then we got 6 remaining
[20/01/2012 12:53:25 AM] PCP: from the following pool
[20/01/2012 12:54:22 AM] PCP: Cwave, Slardar, Kenpachi, Munk-E, EchelonTee, Opz, BrownBear, Bill Murray, Meapak, glurio, blahz0r, GGQ, zeks/vaderseven, evantrees, chaosquo, Scamp
[20/01/2012 12:54:35 AM] PCP: and like half those people are inactive newbs
[20/01/2012 12:57:44 AM] james: -_- yea
[20/01/2012 12:57:58 AM] james: its brutal
[20/01/2012 1:18:57 AM] james: well
[20/01/2012 1:19:01 AM] james: lets see how meapak
[20/01/2012 1:19:03 AM] james: responds to that subtle jab
[20/01/2012 1:19:46 AM] PCP: nice
[20/01/2012 1:19:46 AM] PCP: I approve
[20/01/2012 1:20:13 AM] james: figured you would
[20/01/2012 1:35:13 AM] james: heading to bed, talk to you later duder
[20/01/2012 1:35:25 AM] PCP: kk ttyl
[20/01/2012 1:51:14 PM] PCP: yo
[20/01/2012 1:51:19 PM] PCP: did Cwave claim mason?
[20/01/2012 1:52:27 PM] PCP: like not in the past 8 hours I mean
[20/01/2012 1:55:03 PM] james: yes
[20/01/2012 1:55:06 PM] james: hes claimed mason
[20/01/2012 1:55:09 PM] james: claims he mason'd bm
[20/01/2012 1:55:12 PM] james: and that bm gave him bgs
[20/01/2012 1:55:13 PM] PCP: like day 2 sometime?
[20/01/2012 1:57:54 PM] james: uh, day 3
[20/01/2012 1:58:08 PM] james: he only really outed himself when bm
[20/01/2012 1:58:10 PM] james: outed him i believe
[20/01/2012 1:58:59 PM] PCP: oh okay
[20/01/2012 1:59:54 PM] PCP: k who you want to kill today
[20/01/2012 1:59:55 PM] PCP: besides kingjames
[20/01/2012 2:00:07 PM] james: honestly
[20/01/2012 2:00:13 PM] james: everyone defending glurio atm
[20/01/2012 2:00:18 PM] james: i want to stab with an icepick
[20/01/2012 2:00:33 PM] PCP: interesting choice of weapon there lol
[20/01/2012 2:01:17 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 2:01:23 PM] james: prefer shanking?
[20/01/2012 2:02:46 PM] PCP: haha nah I like the icepick
[20/01/2012 2:03:38 PM] PCP: but we still need someone else to kill
[20/01/2012 2:04:21 PM] james: -_- kingjames
[20/01/2012 2:04:23 PM] james: for sure
[20/01/2012 2:04:26 PM] james: also
[20/01/2012 2:04:29 PM] PCP: yeah of course
[20/01/2012 2:04:29 PM] james: do you think
[20/01/2012 2:04:34 PM] james: town would have
[20/01/2012 2:04:35 PM] james: 7 kp?
[20/01/2012 2:04:46 PM] james: to a mafias listed of 5 (if they only get one jack)
[20/01/2012 2:05:03 PM] james: seems reallllly weird to have a town with more kp than a mafia
[20/01/2012 2:06:52 PM] PCP: possibly
[20/01/2012 2:06:55 PM] PCP: there's probably no DTs
[20/01/2012 2:07:08 PM] PCP: zero medics
[20/01/2012 2:08:56 PM] PCP: should we just kill BM
[20/01/2012 2:08:58 PM] PCP: lol
[20/01/2012 2:10:42 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 2:10:47 PM] james: then incog might die =(
[20/01/2012 2:10:53 PM] james: rofl
[20/01/2012 2:10:55 PM] james: p4n
[20/01/2012 2:10:57 PM] james: trying to push
[20/01/2012 2:10:57 PM] PCP: well we need another person to kill
[20/01/2012 2:10:58 PM] james: a vote
[20/01/2012 2:11:00 PM] james: of kingjames
[20/01/2012 2:11:03 PM] james: and onto supersoft
[20/01/2012 2:11:11 PM] james: off*
[20/01/2012 2:11:20 PM] james: and kingjames was the same guy
[20/01/2012 2:11:24 PM] james: who tried to get him offed
[20/01/2012 2:11:38 PM] PCP: haha
[20/01/2012 2:12:08 PM] james: he is also claiming
[20/01/2012 2:12:12 PM] james: that since i discounted his analysis
[20/01/2012 2:12:15 PM] james: if ss flips red
[20/01/2012 2:12:17 PM] james: i must be red
[20/01/2012 2:12:28 PM] james: however, as i defended p4n, by that same logic
[20/01/2012 2:12:31 PM] james: he is red
[20/01/2012 2:12:36 PM] PCP: lolol
[20/01/2012 2:12:37 PM] james: and as p4n defended glurio
[20/01/2012 2:12:39 PM] james: by same logic
[20/01/2012 2:12:40 PM] PCP: I think after the recent events
[20/01/2012 2:12:41 PM] james: glurio is red
[20/01/2012 2:12:42 PM] james: ---
[20/01/2012 2:12:43 PM] james: -_-
[20/01/2012 2:12:44 PM] PCP: Cwave is blue
[20/01/2012 2:12:50 PM] james: hes mason
[20/01/2012 2:12:51 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 2:12:51 PM] PCP: yeah
[20/01/2012 2:12:57 PM] james: based on how hes playing it
[20/01/2012 2:12:58 PM] PCP: but yesterday we said he was definite suspect
[20/01/2012 2:12:59 PM] james: yea
[20/01/2012 2:13:19 PM] james: glurio seems
[20/01/2012 2:13:21 PM] james: mafia for sure
[20/01/2012 2:13:28 PM] james: replacement or no, saying at page 88 you were caught up
[20/01/2012 2:13:29 PM] PCP: okay let's pressure him then
[20/01/2012 2:13:32 PM] james: and were going to play
[20/01/2012 2:13:37 PM] james: then your next post is
[20/01/2012 2:13:39 PM] PCP: why didn't you talk to him in PMs?
[20/01/2012 2:13:40 PM] james: page 145
[20/01/2012 2:13:44 PM] james: he asked a question
[20/01/2012 2:13:47 PM] james: already answered in thread
[20/01/2012 2:13:55 PM] PCP: -_-
[20/01/2012 2:14:00 PM] james: I don't respond to stupid questions in pms
[20/01/2012 2:14:03 PM] james: from arttards
[20/01/2012 2:14:05 PM] PCP: loool
[20/01/2012 2:14:25 PM] james: if you're actively reading the thread like you imply
[20/01/2012 2:14:32 PM] james: then you should know what to ask and not to ask
[20/01/2012 2:14:38 PM] james: also his post on page 145
[20/01/2012 2:14:38 PM] PCP: wouldn't that more imply he's just stupid
[20/01/2012 2:14:40 PM] james: was after
[20/01/2012 2:14:42 PM] james: I called him out
[20/01/2012 2:14:44 PM] james: for sheeping
[20/01/2012 2:14:46 PM] james: his votes
[20/01/2012 2:14:47 PM] james: -_-
[20/01/2012 2:15:00 PM] james: he voted and iw as like "yo get back here explain this shit"
[20/01/2012 2:15:39 PM] PCP: eh
[20/01/2012 2:17:36 PM] james: incog is now online, i expect some form of post
[20/01/2012 2:17:38 PM] james: out of him soon
[20/01/2012 2:18:00 PM] PCP: Incognito (11:16:42 AM): oh the pain! if BM is a mad hatter I dont want to allow him the chance to place another bomb. lol
[20/01/2012 2:19:46 PM] james: rofl
[20/01/2012 2:19:52 PM] james: your not supposed to be talking
[20/01/2012 2:21:23 PM] PCP: yeah I know
[20/01/2012 2:21:51 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 2:27:21 PM] PCP: Incognito (11:26:51 AM): lol wut bm has a bomb on me ? :\
[20/01/2012 2:27:33 PM] james: loool
[20/01/2012 2:33:13 PM] PCP: do you want to kill sandroba
[20/01/2012 2:34:24 PM] james: on one hand yes, on another no
[20/01/2012 2:34:35 PM] james: hes doing dick all so im suspicious
[20/01/2012 2:34:37 PM] james: but the shit he has done
[20/01/2012 2:34:42 PM] james: doesn't scream mafia to me -_-
[20/01/2012 2:34:46 PM] james: however thats mostly pm stuff
[20/01/2012 2:34:56 PM] james: in thread hes downright
[20/01/2012 2:34:57 PM] james: horribad
[20/01/2012 2:35:32 PM] PCP: ugh
[20/01/2012 2:36:16 PM] james: and he keeps coming in "drunk"
[20/01/2012 2:36:17 PM] james: into the thread
[20/01/2012 2:36:20 PM] james: which is annoying as hell
[20/01/2012 2:37:25 PM] PCP: haha
[20/01/2012 2:40:03 PM] james: remember the game
[20/01/2012 2:40:07 PM] james: you made chez house
[20/01/2012 2:40:13 PM] james: in that 3 mafia family game?
[20/01/2012 2:41:02 PM] PCP: yeah
[20/01/2012 2:41:53 PM] james: how similar
[20/01/2012 2:41:59 PM] james: is sandros play this game?
[20/01/2012 2:42:52 PM] PCP: pretty similar
[20/01/2012 2:42:58 PM] PCP: establishes himself as probably town day 1
[20/01/2012 2:43:00 PM] PCP: then goes afk
[20/01/2012 2:43:11 PM] PCP: and he did that through PMs too
[20/01/2012 2:43:15 PM] PCP: not thread posting
[20/01/2012 2:43:57 PM] james: so he did near nothing overall in both cases?
[20/01/2012 2:44:50 PM] PCP: yes
[20/01/2012 2:44:55 PM] james: k
[20/01/2012 2:45:00 PM] james: then I can most likely get behind that
[20/01/2012 2:45:01 PM] james: also
[20/01/2012 2:45:07 PM] james: WHY IS EVERYONE ALWAYS ON MY FUCKING NUTS
[20/01/2012 2:45:13 PM] james: fucking shitty town
[20/01/2012 2:45:29 PM] james: fuck fw for not giving me a gun
[20/01/2012 2:46:37 PM] PCP: loool
[20/01/2012 2:46:47 PM] james: this is pyp3 all over again -_-
[20/01/2012 2:47:00 PM] james: only difference is there are a few decent players this time
[20/01/2012 2:47:59 PM] james: and p4n is now downgraded
[20/01/2012 2:48:01 PM] james: to bad townie
[20/01/2012 2:48:04 PM] james: or terrible mafia -_-
[20/01/2012 2:48:11 PM] james: hes not arguing with incog
[20/01/2012 2:48:14 PM] james: now*
[20/01/2012 2:48:24 PM] james: or at least attempting to
[20/01/2012 2:49:01 PM] PCP: are we killing sandroba
[20/01/2012 2:49:17 PM] james: im thinking so
[20/01/2012 2:49:19 PM] james: yes
[20/01/2012 2:49:29 PM] james: 3 game days an no real contribution
[20/01/2012 2:49:33 PM] james: his town meta
[20/01/2012 2:49:38 PM] james: is try as hard as hell normally
[20/01/2012 2:50:27 PM] PCP: okay
[20/01/2012 2:51:04 PM] james: bringing up another game of his to verify im not being dumb as hell
[20/01/2012 2:52:44 PM] PCP: okay
[20/01/2012 2:52:52 PM] james: yea
[20/01/2012 2:52:53 PM] james: deff mafia
[20/01/2012 2:52:54 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 2:53:05 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956&user=21688
[20/01/2012 2:53:09 PM] james: thats pypi
[20/01/2012 2:53:13 PM] james: filter
[20/01/2012 2:53:18 PM] james: does dick all all agme
[20/01/2012 2:53:49 PM] PCP: yes
[20/01/2012 2:54:13 PM] james: vs gms large ass game
[20/01/2012 2:54:20 PM] james: where it was like another 80 pages on our current one
[20/01/2012 2:54:22 PM] james: but he had 11 pages
[20/01/2012 2:54:25 PM] james: in his filter
[20/01/2012 2:54:45 PM] james: and was obviously town
[20/01/2012 2:55:37 PM] PCP: okay
[20/01/2012 2:55:38 PM] PCP: I'm sold
[20/01/2012 2:55:45 PM] PCP: probably should post that in the thread
[20/01/2012 2:55:55 PM] james: I had to sell myself on it lol
[20/01/2012 2:58:24 PM] james: although
[20/01/2012 2:58:26 PM] james: re reading
[20/01/2012 2:58:32 PM] james: a supersoft filter of another game
[20/01/2012 2:58:37 PM] james: makes me think hes currently red -_-
[20/01/2012 2:58:47 PM] PCP: no
[20/01/2012 2:58:49 PM] PCP: his one post
[20/01/2012 2:58:52 PM] PCP: he wouldn't do as mafia
[20/01/2012 2:59:00 PM] james: oh that post i know
[20/01/2012 2:59:04 PM] james: but he made such good posts
[20/01/2012 2:59:05 PM] james: frequently
[20/01/2012 2:59:08 PM] james: in another one as town
[20/01/2012 3:00:13 PM] PCP: either way sandroba is a much better lynch than him
[20/01/2012 3:01:17 PM] james: also
[20/01/2012 3:01:24 PM] james: im in agreement with blazor =(
[20/01/2012 3:01:25 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 3:01:35 PM] james: just wouldn't push him this specific day
[20/01/2012 3:02:36 PM] PCP: yeah I know you are
[20/01/2012 3:02:39 PM] PCP: just wanted to make a point
[20/01/2012 3:02:44 PM] PCP: and couldn't think of anyone better
[20/01/2012 3:02:49 PM] james: tbh
[20/01/2012 3:02:57 PM] james: as much as I'd like to off bm, i dont want to risk
[20/01/2012 3:03:00 PM] james: offing incog yet
[20/01/2012 3:03:11 PM] PCP: same here
[20/01/2012 3:03:24 PM] james: as I have a solid town read on incog and bm is so fucking hard to read
[20/01/2012 3:03:32 PM] PCP: also that was my way of calling him (blazh0r) out to see what/if he responds
[20/01/2012 3:03:40 PM] james: thing is
[20/01/2012 3:03:44 PM] james: no mafia lynched thus far
[20/01/2012 3:03:48 PM] james: has realllly responded
[20/01/2012 3:03:56 PM] james: L didn't really ever defend himself
[20/01/2012 3:04:07 PM] james: instead he deflected
[20/01/2012 3:04:13 PM] james: macpo pulled im "new card"
[20/01/2012 3:04:23 PM] james: and did ciry post anything?
[20/01/2012 3:04:33 PM] james: and most of them just ignored all analysis done
[20/01/2012 3:04:41 PM] james: common trend seems to be bury shit
[20/01/2012 3:04:43 PM] james: as fast as possible
[20/01/2012 3:04:45 PM] james: while ignoring it
[20/01/2012 3:04:52 PM] PCP: yeah
[20/01/2012 3:12:26 PM] james: if he doesnt come out to defend himself
[20/01/2012 3:12:29 PM] james: ill be more secure with this lol
[20/01/2012 3:12:31 PM] james: or does it badly
[20/01/2012 3:13:25 PM] james: also
[20/01/2012 3:13:29 PM] james: VE really wants me to vote
[20/01/2012 3:13:31 PM] james: wbg -_-
[20/01/2012 3:13:50 PM] PCP: \ignore
[20/01/2012 3:13:56 PM] james: i am
[20/01/2012 3:13:56 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 3:13:58 PM] PCP: =D
[20/01/2012 3:14:03 PM] james: haha
[20/01/2012 3:14:41 PM] james: I will say this now
[20/01/2012 3:14:45 PM] james: if either you or incog or both are red
[20/01/2012 3:14:47 PM] james: well done
[20/01/2012 3:14:48 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 3:14:55 PM] james: completely fooled if so
[20/01/2012 3:15:41 PM] PCP: meh
[20/01/2012 3:15:46 PM] PCP: bus 3 mafia members
[20/01/2012 3:15:58 PM] PCP: also couldn't have been planned
[20/01/2012 3:16:15 PM] PCP: so if by well done you mean, "you lucky mother fucker" then yeah I agree lol
[20/01/2012 3:16:20 PM] james: hahaha
[20/01/2012 3:17:16 PM] james: jesus
[20/01/2012 3:17:16 PM] james: fucking christ
[20/01/2012 3:17:18 PM] james: p4n
[20/01/2012 3:17:21 PM] james: someone gag him
[20/01/2012 3:36:49 PM] james: why do I join these things lol
[20/01/2012 3:36:56 PM] james: shoulda moved on to poker like mikey
[20/01/2012 3:37:22 PM] PCP: looool
[20/01/2012 3:39:03 PM] james: also facebook is terrible about letting me know when my hot female friends become single
[20/01/2012 3:39:05 PM] james: bad facebook
[20/01/2012 3:39:19 PM] PCP: newb
[20/01/2012 3:39:33 PM] james: lol to be fair
[20/01/2012 3:39:36 PM] james: the one in question
[20/01/2012 3:39:38 PM] james: is in victoria
[20/01/2012 3:39:45 PM] PCP: hardly a commute for you
[20/01/2012 3:39:46 PM] james: so not on my radar
[20/01/2012 3:39:52 PM] james: she was when i lived out there but like
[20/01/2012 3:39:53 PM] james: now?
[20/01/2012 3:40:00 PM] james: and her ex
[20/01/2012 3:40:04 PM] james: is more or less how i found out
[20/01/2012 3:41:45 PM] james: did
[20/01/2012 3:41:47 PM] james: p4n
[20/01/2012 3:41:49 PM] james: fuck up badly?
[20/01/2012 3:41:56 PM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=149#2973
[20/01/2012 3:42:07 PM] james: if he has been so sure
[20/01/2012 3:42:09 PM] james: on those lynches
[20/01/2012 3:42:17 PM] james: why the fuck has he been voting for
[20/01/2012 3:42:18 PM] james: SS
[20/01/2012 3:42:31 PM] PCP: he's just stubborn
[20/01/2012 3:42:35 PM] PCP: I gave up on him lol
[20/01/2012 3:42:37 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 3:49:29 PM] james: why would anyone fish
[20/01/2012 3:49:30 PM] james: bg names -_-
[20/01/2012 3:49:35 PM] james: when they were already distributed
[20/01/2012 3:50:34 PM] PCP: they are distributed now?
[20/01/2012 3:50:35 PM] PCP: wait what?
[20/01/2012 3:51:50 PM] PCP: going to ignore p4n lol
[20/01/2012 3:52:27 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 3:52:33 PM] james: i gave out the names via encrypted
[20/01/2012 3:52:35 PM] james: message
[20/01/2012 3:52:40 PM] james: in the case I died
[20/01/2012 3:52:41 PM] james: however
[20/01/2012 3:52:45 PM] james: bm gave out the names
[20/01/2012 3:52:47 PM] james: to two people -_-
[20/01/2012 3:53:17 PM] PCP: oh okay that's what he means
[20/01/2012 3:53:25 PM] PCP: you made it sound like someone posted it in the thread
[20/01/2012 3:53:33 PM] james: nonono
[20/01/2012 3:53:34 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 3:53:38 PM] james: id be like
[20/01/2012 3:53:42 PM] james: YOU FUCKING IDIOT
[20/01/2012 3:55:10 PM] james: how do none of them see
[20/01/2012 3:55:12 PM] james: the downside
[20/01/2012 3:55:15 PM] james: to offing bm
[20/01/2012 3:55:25 PM] james: if you had the option of sparing someone who might be red 1 more day
[20/01/2012 3:55:32 PM] james: to give a town analysis more time
[20/01/2012 3:55:35 PM] james: to do their work -_-
[20/01/2012 3:55:44 PM] PCP: because dude
[20/01/2012 3:55:48 PM] james: this isnt
[20/01/2012 3:55:48 PM] PCP: that's common sense
[20/01/2012 3:55:52 PM] james: a huge leap
[20/01/2012 3:55:54 PM] james: of logic
[20/01/2012 3:56:04 PM] james: hahaha
[20/01/2012 3:56:27 PM] james: oh yea, common sense isnt common
[20/01/2012 4:17:18 PM] james: im only going to be around for like another 30-45 minutes
[20/01/2012 4:17:21 PM] james: before i head out for work
[20/01/2012 4:17:35 PM] james: then ill be mia till midnightish est
[20/01/2012 4:20:14 PM] PCP: kk
[20/01/2012 4:20:24 PM] PCP: we can talk at night though yeah?
[20/01/2012 4:20:28 PM] james: aye
[20/01/2012 4:20:49 PM] PCP: k no worries
[20/01/2012 4:20:59 PM] PCP: I won't be around for the lynch either cause I got to curl
[20/01/2012 4:21:16 PM] PCP: and I sincerely hope you cringed when you read that
[20/01/2012 4:43:36 PM] james: oh i did
[20/01/2012 4:43:41 PM] james: fucking broom man
[20/01/2012 4:44:10 PM] PCP: =D
[20/01/2012 4:45:06 PM] james: is it wrong that the more i see
[20/01/2012 4:45:12 PM] james: people not liking us swapping from bm
[20/01/2012 4:45:18 PM] james: the more comfortable i am with the choice of swapping away?
[20/01/2012 4:45:41 PM] PCP: no
[20/01/2012 4:45:47 PM] PCP: if everyone was jumping ship with us
[20/01/2012 4:45:50 PM] PCP: I'd be worried
[20/01/2012 4:46:03 PM] PCP: like, "did hell just freeze over? people are ACTUALLY listening to us?!?!?"
[20/01/2012 4:46:10 PM] james: lol
[20/01/2012 4:46:32 PM] james: we also know
[20/01/2012 4:46:38 PM] james: that 2 confirmed reds
[20/01/2012 4:46:42 PM] james: voted for bm
[20/01/2012 4:46:45 PM] james: one very last minute
[20/01/2012 4:46:58 PM] james: and a fuck ton of dead town
[20/01/2012 4:47:00 PM] james: went for incog
[20/01/2012 5:03:23 PM] james: thread is yours to keep in order till you take off
[20/01/2012 5:03:28 PM] james: talk to you later duder
[20/01/2012 5:03:34 PM] PCP: kk ttyl
[1:19:50 AM] james: munke is red i think unless he has some epic
[1:19:51 AM] james: fucking post
[2:57:08 AM] PCP: I believe it
[2:57:10 AM] PCP: how was kingjames not mafia
[2:57:11 AM] PCP: wtf
[2:58:07 AM] james: i dont know
[2:58:08 AM] james: at
[2:58:09 AM] james: all
[2:58:13 AM] james: #11 mafia player
[2:58:15 AM] james: right there
[2:58:26 AM] james: like, nothing he did
[2:58:28 AM] james: was townie
[2:58:30 AM] james: nothing
[2:58:35 AM] PCP: yeah I know wtf
[2:58:41 AM] james: fuck
[2:58:41 AM] james: also
[2:58:43 AM] james: fuck bm
[2:58:44 AM] james: he dies
[2:58:51 AM] james: glurio dies
[2:59:00 AM] PCP: what did BM do?
[2:59:00 AM] james: I have been sitting on fing filters
[2:59:03 AM] james: for ages
[2:59:06 AM] james: he mindfucked
[2:59:08 AM] james: 3 vets
[2:59:11 AM] james: thats what
[2:59:58 AM] PCP: haha it's fine
[3:00:10 AM] PCP: do I need to read anything near day end?
[3:00:13 AM] PCP: cause I don't want to lol
[3:00:46 AM] james: few random wtf posts
[3:01:26 AM] james: munke imo outs himself
[3:01:26 AM] james: completely
[3:01:47 AM] james: kenpachi
[3:01:49 AM] james: possibly red
[3:02:08 AM] PCP: kk
[3:02:11 AM] PCP: where's this munk e post?
[3:02:34 AM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=160#3200
[3:02:44 AM] james: massive analysis post
[3:02:49 AM] james: to verify his vote choice
[3:02:51 AM] james: however
[3:02:56 AM] james: -_- as im thinking bm is heavy scum atm
[3:03:03 AM] james: this guy could be town? but nothing he does
[3:03:05 AM] james: seems town
[3:03:57 AM] PCP: don't know how blazh0r flipped town too
[3:04:55 AM] james: same lol
[3:05:00 AM] james: but hes new
[3:05:01 AM] james: as hell
[3:05:17 AM] james: also
[3:05:19 AM] james: bum
[3:05:19 AM] james: is scum
[3:05:21 AM] james: i think
[3:05:31 AM] james: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=163#3260
[3:06:25 AM] james: i might have to take a step back though and really calm down
[3:06:37 AM] james: distracted and moderatlly not fully with it for this i dont think -_-
[3:06:38 AM] PCP: why is BM either putting a bomb out OR jailing
[3:06:42 AM] PCP: he can do both -_-
[3:11:01 AM] PCP: well I'm going to be out most of tomorrow so we probably won't get to chat
[3:11:08 AM] PCP: anything you want to know before I go to sleep?
[3:11:35 AM] james: reads on bm, bum, bb and meapak
[3:11:57 AM] PCP: mafia, not mafia, who knows kill him anyways, still thinking mafia
[3:12:34 AM] james: why not mafia on bum ?
[3:12:47 AM] PCP: he's not playing very seriously
[3:13:54 AM] james: you missed iceman
[3:13:59 AM] james: in your votething
[3:14:06 AM] PCP: was he a modkill?
[3:14:13 AM] james: that or day 2 night shot
[3:14:16 AM] james: hes flipped as townie
[3:14:17 AM] james: in the OP
[3:14:19 AM] PCP: no wonder
[3:14:19 AM] PCP: oh well
[3:14:25 AM] PCP: he's not in any important list of interest haha
[3:14:29 AM] james: modkill
[3:14:30 AM] james: lol
[3:14:38 AM] james: hiro claimed
[3:14:39 AM] james: dt
[3:14:41 AM] james: check on roba
[3:14:42 AM] PCP: yeah I just saw that
[3:14:50 AM] PCP: he didn't say who he checked night 2
[3:15:03 AM] james: correct
[3:15:09 AM] PCP: either he didn't check or it's not important
[3:15:59 AM] PCP: if meapak continues to analyze useless players then he's mafia
[3:16:10 AM] james: hasnt he only analyzed
[3:16:12 AM] james: ggq
[3:16:17 AM] james: and buddy'd up
[3:16:19 AM] PCP: brownbear
[3:16:21 AM] james: to all three of
[3:16:22 AM] james: us?
[3:16:27 AM] PCP: he's weird
[3:16:31 AM] PCP: a few of his posts he was like
[3:16:40 AM] PCP: "we should be wary of the triumvarate"
[3:16:43 AM] james: then
[3:16:50 AM] james: "follow them they are doing it right"


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BloodyC0bbler
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January 21 2012 19:46 GMT
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<BloodyC0bbler> and I helped force said wagon
<BloodyC0bbler> correct
<BloodyC0bbler> Won't dispute that
<BloodyC0bbler> till jackal claimed
<BloodyC0bbler> the vig shot on L
<BloodyC0bbler> id have been on hims super hard today
<VisceraEyes> I mean, me too
<VisceraEyes> You saw my pre-dawn list
<BloodyC0bbler> however, I don't claim in my posts
<BloodyC0bbler> that I tried to stop protrac/sandro
<BloodyC0bbler> voters
<BloodyC0bbler> like meapak did
<BloodyC0bbler> the only "dont vote for these two guys" posts he had was that he wanted ggq offed
<BloodyC0bbler> but he has a post indicating those 3
<BloodyC0bbler> as the only lynch choices
<VisceraEyes> God, if you're town
<VisceraEyes> Then I may live the night
<VisceraEyes> That would be hilarious
<VisceraEyes> Because my reads are way off
<VisceraEyes> Like usual
<BloodyC0bbler> mine are lining up
<BloodyC0bbler> with foolishness and incog
<BloodyC0bbler> we have slight differences on reads
<BloodyC0bbler> like i had jackal
<BloodyC0bbler> so did incog
<BloodyC0bbler> foolishness didnt
<BloodyC0bbler> shit like that
<VisceraEyes> Where do they stand on BM?
<VisceraEyes> They're deafeningly silent this cycle so far too
<BloodyC0bbler> as of day 2
<BloodyC0bbler> red
<BloodyC0bbler> however the trend this day
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked
<VisceraEyes> Foolish has verbally doubted it
<BloodyC0bbler> hes also gainign votes
<VisceraEyes> I don't know if that was a reaction thing
<BloodyC0bbler> faster than anyone else
<BloodyC0bbler> which screams bandwagon
<BloodyC0bbler> and near no one is defending him
<BloodyC0bbler> which screams mafia are fine with the death
<VisceraEyes> The arguments are compelling though
<BloodyC0bbler> oh dont get me wrong
<BloodyC0bbler> they are
<BloodyC0bbler> but its bm
<VisceraEyes> It is
<BloodyC0bbler> its like trying to off chez
<VisceraEyes> I'm new here
<BloodyC0bbler> with logical arguments
<VisceraEyes> And I know about BM
<BloodyC0bbler> him claiming hatter
<BloodyC0bbler> and running for office
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked up
<VisceraEyes> Oh I need a favor from you
<VisceraEyes> Not game related.
<VisceraEyes> I need you to tell me that Feast for Crows is worth it.
<VisceraEyes> Because I'm about 1/5 the way through the book
<VisceraEyes> And I'm about to put it down
<VisceraEyes> I've got a buddy who's read it
<VisceraEyes> And he can't do it.
<VisceraEyes> He can't bring himself to tell me it's worth it.
<VisceraEyes> Because he honestly can't remember.
<VisceraEyes> And I believe him after what I've read.
<BloodyC0bbler> feast is the 4th one correct?
<VisceraEyes> ya
<VisceraEyes> The Ciersi/Brienne show
<VisceraEyes> Ya
<BloodyC0bbler> first read I thought it was near terribad, second read I thought it was actually good
<BloodyC0bbler> the biggest issue with it is
<BloodyC0bbler> the only "cool" point of views
<BloodyC0bbler> are arya and jaime
<VisceraEyes> Jaime and
<VisceraEyes> Ya
<BloodyC0bbler> the book itself isnt terrible
<VisceraEyes> And they're like, every 10th section
<BloodyC0bbler> as it tells alot of important story
<VisceraEyes> The way Bran was in the third book and shit
<VisceraEyes> Ugh
<VisceraEyes> Okay
<BloodyC0bbler> and is needed for dance
<BloodyC0bbler> to make sense
<VisceraEyes> That's what I needed.
<VisceraEyes> Because I need to read Dance of Dragons
<VisceraEyes> Mainly because there are characters I need to hear from again
<VisceraEyes> But I won't just skip 4 if it's important.
<VisceraEyes> Anyway
<VisceraEyes> Thx for that
<VisceraEyes> Just needed encouragement where that's concerned...these Brienne chapters are wearing on me.
<BloodyC0bbler> not a problem
<BloodyC0bbler> oh her chapters
<BloodyC0bbler> suck balls
<BloodyC0bbler> most uninteresting character
<BloodyC0bbler> ever
<BloodyC0bbler> as a note
<BloodyC0bbler> who are your current main scum reads?
<VisceraEyes> I don't even know.
<VisceraEyes> I need time
<VisceraEyes> Um
<VisceraEyes> I'm really not liking Toad
<VisceraEyes> I mean
<VisceraEyes> WBG
<VisceraEyes> He talks a big game
<VisceraEyes> But if he's town he's failing hard.
<VisceraEyes> HARD
<BloodyC0bbler> doesn't he normally fail hard
<BloodyC0bbler> as town?
<VisceraEyes> I don't know
<BloodyC0bbler> He was failing a fuck ton in GM's big game
<VisceraEyes> I just got back remember?
<VisceraEyes> I don't even know the guy.
<VisceraEyes> Except he's good at LoL
<VisceraEyes> *shrug*
<VisceraEyes> You know it's funny how glaringly town someone can be posting and so abysmally scummy they can be with their thought-process and reads.
<VisceraEyes> I love being me.
<VisceraEyes> I make games fun.
<VisceraEyes> I don't care what anyone says.
<VisceraEyes> See you've screwed up all my reads.
<VisceraEyes> Bum isn't doing shit
<VisceraEyes> But apparently Meapak is scum
<VisceraEyes> And he's calling out Mepak
<VisceraEyes> So I don't know anymore
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> thing is analysis
<BloodyC0bbler> is friggen tedious
<BloodyC0bbler> fucking work
<VisceraEyes> Yeah, I'm finding that
<VisceraEyes> But the thing is
<VisceraEyes> I don't know what the thing is
<VisceraEyes> My other mason went MIA
<VisceraEyes> He'll probably show up when I start making sense again.
<VisceraEyes> *shrug*
<VisceraEyes> Again for the first time
<VisceraEyes> And who the fuck is this p4N guy?
<VisceraEyes> Has he been around here before?
<VisceraEyes> He plays like he's played here forever
<VisceraEyes> Does he play at the live events with those guys?
<VisceraEyes> Or some shit?
<VisceraEyes> I'll tell you who else give off a "Fake-New" vibe
<VisceraEyes> JayJay
<VisceraEyes> Like, go back to his first post in game.
<VisceraEyes> Same shit that Macpo got called on
<VisceraEyes> Except
<VisceraEyes> HE is actually capable of carrying on an argument
<VisceraEyes> Even if it's a stupid one, he gives the illusion that he actually believes it.
<VisceraEyes> Hell he might
<VisceraEyes> But his conviction is...disturbing.
<VisceraEyes> Go read our back and forth.
<VisceraEyes> VE vs JJ
<VisceraEyes> It's dumb...and interesting at the same time
<VisceraEyes> I still can't figure him out.
<BloodyC0bbler> i think he plays at live events (p4n)
<BloodyC0bbler> jj
<BloodyC0bbler> was going ape shit on my nuts
<BloodyC0bbler> for awhile
<BloodyC0bbler> i just started to ignore him
<VisceraEyes> Well thanks, cause he then went apeshit on my nuts.
<VisceraEyes> Let me ask you
<VisceraEyes> Honesty
<VisceraEyes> Hey
<VisceraEyes> HEY
<VisceraEyes> HONESTY
<VisceraEyes> ALIGNMENT FREE
<VisceraEyes> OKAY?
<VisceraEyes> Is my CC case nothing but OMGUS?
<VisceraEyes> It goes back there - back in the failClaim D1 days
<BloodyC0bbler> CC seems
<BloodyC0bbler> townie
<BloodyC0bbler> tbh
<VisceraEyes> Yea I know
<VisceraEyes> But my case dude
<BloodyC0bbler> link me to exact post
<BloodyC0bbler> mind is currently on dealing with the KJ troll
<VisceraEyes> Yeah
<VisceraEyes> Um
<VisceraEyes> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13141955
<VisceraEyes> Oh Bill's triumphant return.
<VisceraEyes> He's such a waste
<VisceraEyes> This game
<VisceraEyes> Like, the only thing that even saves him is he MIGHT be scum
<VisceraEyes> If he's scum, he's actually doing some good for his faction.
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> yea
<BloodyC0bbler> hes just annoying
<VisceraEyes> Awesome
<VisceraEyes> I'm gonna go smoke a bowl and fuck my wife then
<VisceraEyes> Cause this games got nothin for me at this point
<BloodyC0bbler> kk
<VisceraEyes> Really I'm just gonna go staple some shit and head home
<VisceraEyes> THEN those other things
<VisceraEyes> But yeah, gotta finish up at work
<VisceraEyes> We'll chat again before dusk
<VisceraEyes> I still don't know if you're town or not.
<VisceraEyes> Ah well.
<BloodyC0bbler> if its any consolation
<BloodyC0bbler> i pride myself in being unreadable
<BloodyC0bbler> as it took me forever to do ---
<VisceraEyes> Will you at least tell me whether you'd know if /I/ was town based on this conversation if you didn't know/don't know?
<VisceraEyes> Oooooooo
<VisceraEyes> That took too long
<VisceraEyes> Peace dude.
<BloodyC0bbler> id say likely town






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<VisceraEyes> What are your thoughts on BMs "bomb"?
<VisceraEyes> Should we not lynch him to keep Protact alive?
<VisceraEyes> Why isn't Protact super active in-thread if he has a bomb on him?
<VisceraEyes> These are questions you should think about.
<VisceraEyes> Also consider how much you actually trust these guys who "found" newbie scum D1.
<VisceraEyes> If you're town anyway.
<VisceraEyes> I'm going to work - will probably be back in chat at....6p EST
<BloodyC0bbler> tbh
<BloodyC0bbler> bm's bomb seems fucked
<BloodyC0bbler> as i doubt town would have more kp
<BloodyC0bbler> than mafia
<BloodyC0bbler> in a single night
<BloodyC0bbler> as for why protrac isn't active? no clue at all
<BloodyC0bbler> same thing with foolishness
<VisceraEyes> Vote for WBG
<VisceraEyes> Tired of this shit
<VisceraEyes> i don't know who to trust
<VisceraEyes> So I'm going with my reads
<VisceraEyes> Andnot give a fuck if they're wrong.
<VisceraEyes> Like the vets do.
<VisceraEyes> I think WBG is scum
<VisceraEyes> I'ma get him lynched
<VisceraEyes> If he's not, then people opposing his lynch for no reason
<VisceraEyes> Are scum
<VisceraEyes> Because he hasn't contributed in a meaningful way and there's no way to have a TOWN read on WBG at this point
<VisceraEyes> Unless one has prior knowledge
<BloodyC0bbler> -_- p4ns logic
<BloodyC0bbler> is astouding
<BloodyC0bbler> because I said his case on supersoft wasn't viable for the day
<BloodyC0bbler> i must be red for defending ss if ss flips red
<BloodyC0bbler> however
<BloodyC0bbler> i defended p4n
<BloodyC0bbler> so by same logic
<BloodyC0bbler> p4n must be red if im red
<BloodyC0bbler> do people even think about their posts -_-
<VisceraEyes> People put a lot of stock in association
<VisceraEyes> Maybe too much.
<VisceraEyes> I'm guilty of the same
<VisceraEyes> Hell, it's what sold you to me in that last PM game you owned me
<VisceraEyes> Association alone
<VisceraEyes> Vote WBG
<VisceraEyes> Make him come defend himself.
<BloodyC0bbler> lol
<BloodyC0bbler> why is kingjames
<BloodyC0bbler> only concentrating
<BloodyC0bbler> on p4n
<VisceraEyes> Why are you only concentrating on KJ?
<VisceraEyes> I mean, srsly guy
<VisceraEyes> Vote WHEREBUGS GO
<VisceraEyes> An' I'm out.




VisceraEyes> Psh
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<VisceraEyes> I didn't see a KJ lynch
<VisceraEyes> but whatever.
<VisceraEyes> KJ's case on p4N was good.
<VisceraEyes> You're scum. But I know you're too good for me to get lynched.
<VisceraEyes> First I'm gonna get WBG lynched. Then I'm gonna get kita lynched.
<BloodyC0bbler> My result was wrong, however if you relook at kj's posts you'd understand why I pushed so gd hard. However, I am aware nothing I say will convince you otherwise as such I am not going to. I will say this, your welcome on pushing sandro for you
<VisceraEyes> You're well aware you could change my mind





VisceraEyes_> Maybe you can help me out with this
<VisceraEyes_> Protact said WBG was "a nonsensical lynch"
<VisceraEyes_> Why?
<VisceraEyes_> Sandroba was getting modkilled
<VisceraEyes_> That's something else
<VisceraEyes_> It can't have escaped your notice that Sandroba was getting modkilled BC
<VisceraEyes_> We absolutely wasted our DL
<BloodyC0bbler> relying on someone to be modkilled
<BloodyC0bbler> is -_-
<BloodyC0bbler> one red flipped
<BloodyC0bbler> a player who even after this game ends
<BloodyC0bbler> I will argue was anti town as hell
<BloodyC0bbler> is dead
<BloodyC0bbler> I am honestly in disbelief at the kj flip =\
<VisceraEyes_> Why though?
<VisceraEyes_> I don't get it
<VisceraEyes_> I didn't get your case at all
<BloodyC0bbler> what did he do
<BloodyC0bbler> all game
<BloodyC0bbler> that was pro town?
<BloodyC0bbler> he outright
<BloodyC0bbler> did fuck all
<BloodyC0bbler> everything he called p4n out for
<VisceraEyes_> So? What has bum done?
<BloodyC0bbler> he infact was guilty of
<BloodyC0bbler> bum hasn't done a few thigns
<BloodyC0bbler> i associate with a red
<BloodyC0bbler> bumb
<BloodyC0bbler> bum*
<VisceraEyes_> What has WBG done?
<BloodyC0bbler> i have to reread his filter (wbg) that is
<VisceraEyes_> You know what he's done
<BloodyC0bbler> no I mean as in
<BloodyC0bbler> his tells
<VisceraEyes_> He pushed Palmar D1 and called Toad an idiot
<VisceraEyes_> That's all he's done
<VisceraEyes_> He isn't interested in helping town
<BloodyC0bbler> have you played a game
<BloodyC0bbler> with him
<BloodyC0bbler> where hes been red
<BloodyC0bbler> before?
<BloodyC0bbler> or know of one
<VisceraEyes_> No
<BloodyC0bbler> that he was?
<VisceraEyes_> No
<VisceraEyes_> He mentioned onoe
<VisceraEyes_> Actually
<VisceraEyes_> When I asked
<VisceraEyes_> Nono
<VisceraEyes_> I asked for one where he was town
<VisceraEyes_> And Palmar was scum
<VisceraEyes_> To try and convince GiygaS that WBG was NOT scummy... -.-
<VisceraEyes_> Oh
<VisceraEyes_> MLP he was scum
<VisceraEyes_> Ninja actually
<BloodyC0bbler> mlp?
<VisceraEyes_> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263036&user=60039
<VisceraEyes_> My Little Pony
<VisceraEyes_> He was the lesbo pony
<BloodyC0bbler> is it just me
<BloodyC0bbler> or does he seem far more subdued
<BloodyC0bbler> in the filter you just linked me
<BloodyC0bbler> and in L
<BloodyC0bbler> compared to
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&user=60039
<BloodyC0bbler> you need to learn to be more vocal
<BloodyC0bbler> i don't think you are actually wrong atm
<BloodyC0bbler> bleh
<VisceraEyes_> I know I'm not
<VisceraEyes_> when he's town
<VisceraEyes_> He's all about trying to figure shit out
<VisceraEyes_> in this game he's just going with his gut and meta
<VisceraEyes_> it's fucking bullshit
<VisceraEyes_> and transparent as hell
<VisceraEyes_> Like, if he'd responded to my attempt to draw him out
<VisceraEyes_> by defending him
<VisceraEyes_> But he didn't at all
<BloodyC0bbler> reading his friggin filter
<BloodyC0bbler> the only person he "pushed" was palmar
<BloodyC0bbler> and givein day 1 (only day 1) he pulled
<BloodyC0bbler> a mofo roba
<BloodyC0bbler> play
<BloodyC0bbler> appear "townie" day 1 then fuck off
<BloodyC0bbler> god damnit
<VisceraEyes_> It only gets better
<VisceraEyes_> Wait til you get to the part where he starts arguing with toad
<VisceraEyes_> He goes on and on about how toad isn't trying to help find scum
<VisceraEyes_> Toad almost loses it
<VisceraEyes_> It's like actually a really good scum move, toad lost credibility with that blowup
<VisceraEyes_> Just like I did earlier tonight
<VisceraEyes_> If I push WBG, he walks tomorrow
<VisceraEyes_> I'm just that paranoid idiot that mafia want dead
<BloodyC0bbler> read foolishness'
<BloodyC0bbler> current general reads
<BloodyC0bbler> -_- i think hes more or less
<BloodyC0bbler> right
<BloodyC0bbler> wbg deff should be on the list
<BloodyC0bbler> however
<VisceraEyes_> The strange part
<VisceraEyes_> Is that Protact called WBG a "nonsensical lynch"
<VisceraEyes_> Those were his words
<VisceraEyes_> Why?
<BloodyC0bbler> that was from earlier today correct?
<VisceraEyes_> Okay you agree with Foolish list
<VisceraEyes_> What makes MunkE a good lynch?
<BloodyC0bbler> all his posts
<BloodyC0bbler> of "content"
<BloodyC0bbler> dont really say
<BloodyC0bbler> fuckall
<BloodyC0bbler> he analyzes people
<BloodyC0bbler> hes sheep voting on
<BloodyC0bbler> for one day
<BloodyC0bbler> then he analyzes
<BloodyC0bbler> 3 main election candidates
<BloodyC0bbler> concludes
<BloodyC0bbler> protract is town
<BloodyC0bbler> does a chunk of analysis on me
<BloodyC0bbler> and basically says
<BloodyC0bbler> im red
<VisceraEyes_> All 2 of them?
<BloodyC0bbler> but never calls me it
<BloodyC0bbler> then in like
<BloodyC0bbler> 4 lines
<BloodyC0bbler> sums up bm as red
<BloodyC0bbler> he then again
<BloodyC0bbler> analyzes bm
<BloodyC0bbler> and doesnt on roba
<BloodyC0bbler> both of which he sheep voted for
<VisceraEyes_> Oh and on the Protact thing
<VisceraEyes_> That was near the end of the day
<VisceraEyes_> Right after you left
<VisceraEyes_> Just before he left
<BloodyC0bbler> looking for it now
<VisceraEyes_> And I wanted your opinion on something else
<VisceraEyes_> This is serious and I want you to entertain the notion
<VisceraEyes_> Hiro Protagonist
<VisceraEyes_> Fake-claimed DT
<BloodyC0bbler> where is protracts post
<VisceraEyes_> To solidify the Sandroba lynch
<BloodyC0bbler> saying what you said?
<BloodyC0bbler> im in his filter
<BloodyC0bbler> and his last post was
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=157#3124
<BloodyC0bbler> as for the fake claim
<BloodyC0bbler> it is possible
<BloodyC0bbler> but it means they have planned the fake claim
<BloodyC0bbler> for awhile
<VisceraEyes_> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13220133
<BloodyC0bbler> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&currentpage=160#3197 dropping this here for sake of keeping it somewhere
<BloodyC0bbler> ahh i was looking too far down into his filter
<VisceraEyes_> It wasn't even that close to the end of the day
<VisceraEyes_> Like, WBG is more red than KJ by far in my opinion
<VisceraEyes_> At least KJ had a case and believed in it
<BloodyC0bbler> kj did, however only came out
<BloodyC0bbler> when i called him out
<BloodyC0bbler> and he misrepresented himself by far
<BloodyC0bbler> you are correct however
<BloodyC0bbler> wbg looks terrible
<BloodyC0bbler> and My guess on protrac (as i have no clue as his actual thought process) is the analysis
<BloodyC0bbler> you did
<VisceraEyes_> But pushed with it, even under heavy scrutiny by town leadership
<BloodyC0bbler> wasn't at his standards of quality
<BloodyC0bbler> true
<BloodyC0bbler> but he nailed someone in a rush
<BloodyC0bbler> p4n i have a bad town read
<BloodyC0bbler> on
<VisceraEyes_> I don't care about my analysis
<VisceraEyes_> You dismissed WBG as well until you took ONE look at the filter
<BloodyC0bbler> yes, which I didn't do
<BloodyC0bbler> during the day
<BloodyC0bbler> I have already been cursing myself
<BloodyC0bbler> for getting dragged into
<BloodyC0bbler> petty arguments with people via thread
<BloodyC0bbler> and getting distracted
<BloodyC0bbler> Hes also managed to dodge
<BloodyC0bbler> at least 3 suspect lists
<BloodyC0bbler> in mine
<BloodyC0bbler> protracts
<BloodyC0bbler> and foolishness'
<BloodyC0bbler> god i need to sleep. Ill be on tommorrow most of the day as I don't work. I need to get my head clear and start doing indepth reading
<VisceraEyes_> Probably from his whole Palmar push
<BloodyC0bbler> yea
<BloodyC0bbler> his day 1
<BloodyC0bbler> seems normal town him
<BloodyC0bbler> rest of his play
<BloodyC0bbler> is fucked
<VisceraEyes_> Anyway, I might be on tomorrow too.
<VisceraEyes_> Maybe not.
<VisceraEyes_> I've all but written this game off
<VisceraEyes_> I've dug myself a hole
<VisceraEyes_> No one's listening to me
<BloodyC0bbler> if you are on, talk to you then, if not, then sorry for being such a massive retard
<BloodyC0bbler> on the wbg front
<BloodyC0bbler> and Honestly
<BloodyC0bbler> the hole you dug
<VisceraEyes_> Meh
<BloodyC0bbler> is something you can get out of
<VisceraEyes_> I'm a retard
<BloodyC0bbler> peace duder
<VisceraEyes_> Later.





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BloodyC0bbler
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Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 03:48 GMT
#3432
Ok people. You can jump up and down and yell at me all you want however. BM DIES NOW.

You guys can all say "but BC we don't trust you" Yea so let me ask you this. Why are we not following the advice of the dead town DT who snagged near every red thus far this game?

BM drops. If he somehow flips town im fucked and dead after.

If anyone was jailed last night, claim it. If anyone took a hit same shit, if you were rb'd again.

Anyone who was mason'd to scamp should be coming forward as well.

The mafia are running with their tails in their legs trying to keep bm alive right now, DO NOT LET IT HAPPEN.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 03:54 GMT
#3434
On January 22 2012 12:40 Slardar wrote:
Priority should remain on focusing on BC or BM today. With this many Masons running amok (+2 town Masons already flipped) I think it's fair to call BS on the other Masons considering there are what... 2-3 more claims out? Obviously one if not more are scum...

Also I feel like a fuck now, took my vote off Protract in the end. I think it would have all ended up tied but BC (First) BM (2nd) and Protract (3rd) and wouldn't have changed anything in who got elected, still feel bad. Sorry Mystlord/Incognito


2-3 more claims? what game have you been playing.

we have 2 dead masons

myself, cwave, glurio, opz, supersoft, jitsu all alive and claimed mason. Of the two dead flipped ones, 1 was modkilled the other never claimed.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 03:54 GMT
#3436
Also note, if anyone based on bms performance yesterday and given the flip of protract, everyone should be getting him off this island now.
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Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 03:57 GMT
#3438
On January 22 2012 12:54 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 12:48 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Ok people. You can jump up and down and yell at me all you want however. BM DIES NOW.

You guys can all say "but BC we don't trust you" Yea so let me ask you this. Why are we not following the advice of the dead town DT who snagged near every red thus far this game?

BM drops. If he somehow flips town im fucked and dead after.

If anyone was jailed last night, claim it. If anyone took a hit same shit, if you were rb'd again.

Anyone who was mason'd to scamp should be coming forward as well.

The mafia are running with their tails in their legs trying to keep bm alive right now, DO NOT LET IT HAPPEN.

Who are you insinuating is mafia then?


At the moment BM, we deal with him and continue going. After him we nail opz.

From there we can move into the lurking tards like munk-e who do next to fing nothing unless the major mafia still active (if there are any) reveal their heads.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 04:04 GMT
#3442
On January 22 2012 12:59 p4NDemik wrote:
Who is trying to keep BM alive? Last I saw it was you, proact (may he rest in peace), and foolishness who worked so hard for him to live just one more day yesterday.


To save the dt who is now dead? That same dt who's near final words were kill bm -_-

Do you seriously think hes town? Honestly? Can you sit in your chair with a straight face and say "bm is town"?

Bm has performed badly and three people were duped by a claim.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 04:06 GMT
#3444
On January 22 2012 13:01 p4NDemik wrote:
Toadesstern he was also wrong on Jackal.


except jackal admits to purposely derping to make sure he got to shoot. He has been his typical self since then for the most part. With his play he should have known that would happen. He was wrong on Kingjames like I was who was arguably the unofficial mafia of the game as the guy was clearly behaving as a mafia would.

Seriously, no one should be hesitating to lynch BM at the moment.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 04:14 GMT
#3455
On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window.


As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 04:20 GMT
#3461
On January 22 2012 13:17 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window.


As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason.

wtf I'm not discrediting him I just gave a very clean and very logical reason why Jackal was still on his list at that point in time. He was busy composing that list at nearly the same time Jackal called his hit. If he would have read and realized he wouldn't have put Jackal on his list. I have nothing against Protact here I was posting a simple clarification to toad's mistake and explaining why Protact made that mistake. In a roundabout way I was sort of helping you by explaining away one of Protact's mistakes.

But yet you are on my ass ... wonder why.


refer to your last post on the previous page and your first one on this page. Factor in his last post on targets was pushing bm I would say its a subtle jab at discrediting him. You then opt to try and flip my explanation of why jackal could have been on a list into a negative while instantly doing a similar form of explanation yourself.

I know you want me dead as you dislike how I dealt with you in regards to Supersoft. You also hate that KJ flipped town. However, even you should realize that although you may dislike my play, BM is the most logical lynch today.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 04:21 GMT
#3463
On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit.


because you attacked me first?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 04:21 GMT
#3465
or at least I took it as one
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 04:28 GMT
#3469
On January 22 2012 13:21 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 13:14 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 22 2012 13:12 p4NDemik wrote:
He has no reason to defend Protact putting you on his list. It wouldn't have happened if you guys hadn't coincidentally posted in the same 5 minute window.


As you are trying to discredit the dead man, I would say there is a valid reason.


yeah but I realy don't like you going after protacs list either and I don't like calling the shots right now. You and foolish mislynched into KJ, not sure if protact had a case on him but I do remember yours and foolishs.
You said if KJ flips town that's HUGE amount of information because you pushed the guy hardcore. So what's happening with that information? Do you want to tell me the information is that you're townie because you got a townie lynched or are you agreeing that it looks weird?
Also now you're blindly sheeping. I can understand that you trust the guy but flipping blue does not make him 100% right as p4n and I have already pointed out. 4 ouf of 9 on his list are wrong, 2 out of 9 are right and 3 out of 9 are unclear right now.
You're looking like someone who does not want to be held responsibility because next thing you say is "srysry guys, I just went for the guy that our dead, CONFIRMED DT wanted to lynch. Not my fault at all!".

I am not going to vote BM so easily. I want to hear what he has to say and I want to hear what he did this night.


I've analyzed BM surprisingly so me continuing going for him isn't retarded. Also note protract also did analyze KJ, he was on KJ scumlists that he posted in thread. If you honestly can't look back and see why I pushed KJ so heavily and that both foolishness and protrac would go for him as well then I have no idea what to say to you. You can call it blind sheeping but as mr p4n is opting to make a run at me it gives me reason to say "hey, just so you know, dead guy also said this".

I am not opting to go with "its not my fault at all" but if you think a player who doesn't know how the elected position works with power roles, when he was playing in games well before you started playing here then again, don't know what to say to you. We have always been able to use whatever our role was + the elected one. He says he feared claiming his role (after elected mind you) as he was scared of a roleblock that couldnt happen. He then says "lynch bc or I wont move my bomb"

Those are some of his last contributions of yesterdays day. Is that townie behaviour at all? The roleblock question was answered via a mod in thread, he knows damn well you can use role + elected role same night, and knows holding a lynch hostage is anti town. You all know this same information and yet This has to be spelt out? What is he magically going to say when he comes back that will make you think hes worth lynching, out and out saying "im red?"
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 22 2012 04:28 GMT
#3470
On January 22 2012 13:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 13:19 p4NDemik wrote:
Jackal the important thing is why is BC attacking me just now I actually just helped him a bit.

Because he gets a tad arrogant?


I think a tad is being too kind -_- Pyp3 i was one of the most arrogant dbags in the world.
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