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On January 15 2012 07:07 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 06:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor! Wait did he just say..... YES! VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out. My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting. Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor. In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me. Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!! The occams razor thing was to stop the WIFOM, not my personal stance. When I said I wouldn't vote for BC now in that original post, well right then I wouldn't have, because he felt the need to claim his role. After thinking through the mason plans, I disagreed with it and was willing to lynch him. His continued belief after that his idea was good, and his other townie looking contributions outweighed the doubts I had about him. Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 07:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 15 2012 06:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 15 2012 06:45 Jayjay54 wrote:On January 15 2012 06:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 15 2012 06:31 Palmar wrote:On January 15 2012 06:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I herped HARD. Business as usual. I'll take your being a jerk to me to be indicative of your alignment, since you're not providing anything else for me to base it on. What do you think of my case on CC? What case? There's hardly any case. This is almost OMGUS. You were BFF and then he called you lynch candidate, all of a sudden you're like, DAYKILL. I didn't really get it. Or did I miss something. We were never BFF...he attempted to buddy me by telling me not to drop out of the race. Did you read my case? Do you disagree with my points? Now he's trying to discredit my case, not by refuting the points but by calling me an idiot and acting incredulous about my reinserting myself into the mayoral race. If you disagree with the case that's fine, but don't call it OMGUS...that's very NOT the case. If I were scum buddying up to you, why would I completely change my mind? On January 15 2012 00:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Would like to vote for
VisceraEyes currently has my vote. This is more because I want him to stick in the running and see what his next move is more than anything. Your next move was staying out of the election. It was pathetic and scummy, so I decided you were a good lynch candidate. I suppose I should dismiss the rest of your accusations... On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!! WHAT? HOW DARE HE RECOGNISE THAT HE WASNT FIRST? What sort of scum would be man enough to admit that an idea wasn't original if it was giving them town cred? And OMG HE DIDNT CHANGE HIS VOTE STRAIGHT AWAY EVEN THOUGH HE HAD MANY HOURS LEFT IN THE DAY?! Do you have any other OMGUS I should dismiss? Note the change in tone JayJay. At first he was earnestly trying to convince me that my case was mistaken. After you decided that it's OMGUS, suddenly I'm just retarded and my case is entirely OMGUS. I can't make this stuff up guys.
I was going to ignore the crap you call a case completely. You should feel honoured I even bothered.
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On January 15 2012 07:18 Toadesstern wrote:
also because someone mentioned it (think jayjay) if VE WOULD be a dayvig, shooting CC would be an awesome move.
This election is hard because we don't have flips and there's a lot of possibilities. I think sandro is pretty scumm atm for example. However, I'd like to see some flips that are in some way related to him or see himself flip to back that up.
If I got a flip that somehow tells me I am wrong about sandroba that'd be a huge deal.
Shooting d1 is dangerous but in this situation very much a good thing for town because of information gain imo.
You need to re-define 'awesome move'.
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Errr, L scum hunted?
I see a lot of stuff about making kings...
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/I thought BC was going to lynch Protractinium 
On January 15 2012 10:59 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 10:24 Palmar wrote:
So, it's 1 am my time now.
WBG, I think you're town, however, you're playing terribly. You don't have a case on me, you've never written one up. If you remove meta from your case you're literally stuck with nothing.
I suggest we put visceraeyes and protactinium in the office. I would prefer a BC or Cyri lynch, maybe even sandroba.
Anyone who's town and voting for someone that intends to lynch me, needs to take a look at what they're doing, because I'm not the one playing badly, I've simply posted less than usual. There is nothing you have on me expect meta, thus the case is completely invalid, and when I flip town, you will have proven yourselves to be really dumb and bad.
It's one thing voting for a bad case, but voting for a non-existant one?
Anyway, make the right decision, nighty. I don't need an explicitly written case just because someone who I think is scum asks for one. I really don't understand what mafia players attempt to accomplish when they insist there's no case on them and then demand one. It's just a waste of time. Which, I suppose, is a win for you. You love wasting time as scum. Cases don't become invalid because they use meta. The fact that you're suggesting something that Cyber_Cheese would agree with is pretty damning of you. (no offense, Cyber_Cheese, but it's clear you don't actually understand how powerful meta is) Also, it's funny you choose to defend yourself and have not put forth ANYTHING about anyone you think is scum, and go to sleep only a few hours before deadline instead of actually doing something productive. You have no interest in town affairs beyond looking townie or at least surviving till day 2 because this town is full of pussies who aren't willing to lynch a vet day 1. Man up, all of you, and lynch this guy.
HOWZAT
On January 15 2012 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor! Wait did he just say..... YES! VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out. My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting. Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor. In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me. Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!! Is this nothing? Can someone experienced tell me why this is nothing?
If it was something, it would have taken off, the same with Bum's *case*, and I would have been lynched. I'd strongly advise you don't waste your shot on me.
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On January 15 2012 16:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
lol. I'm not scum.
Palmar played exactly to his scum meta. That's not my fault. Sure, in hindsight you can blame me for the lynch. I'll take responsibility for it. Being wrong doesn't make me scum, however. It just makes me vocally wrong.
At any rate, if you can find reasons to call me scum, go ahead and do it. I'll respond to any accusations that are put up.
The part that is your fault is that you only considered meta.
I don't think a scum member would have pushed someone so hard with such a weak argument, so I'm not really holding it against you yet.
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On January 15 2012 16:51 Bill Murray wrote:
CC, that's not true, you can use meta as an easy reason
Are we playing the same did? Did you see how that turned out?
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No discussion :/
Yo, VE, Protractinium, Adam4167, Kitaman27, MrWiggles and EchelonTee
What are your thoughts on:
Palmars lynch/WBG, is WBG scummy?
Palmars lynch/BC choosing him, did you agree with this?
BM/BC being the elected pair?
Who would you look into lynching next and why?
Double Lynch tomorrow?
Other people are encouraged to answer this too.
My stances
WBG deserves scrutiny, but at worst is a null read to me
I feel like BC didn't really explain his choice of lynch in the lead up, and choosing Palmar feels random and underly discussed.
I'm relatively fine with the elections. Those were people I both wanted in.
On double lynching, I feel like earlier on would be better, if we use them well, we can shrink mafia KP faster. Of course, there is some risk, but we also gain more information on where people stand.
Next lynch. An election candidate for sure. Previously I had assumed MrWiggles and Kitaman were sleeping or something, but they really didn't seem to have much impact going into the elections.
I feel like they would be better options to lynch than VE or Risk.Nuke. I would still support lynching Sandroba.
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On January 15 2012 07:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 07:00 Kurumi wrote:
Because Mafia elects roles on Night 1 (that's correct?) they have no special powers prior to Night 2? Incorrect.
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On January 15 2012 19:34 EchelonTee wrote:
Cyber_Cheese, can you link me a game where you were town? I glanced through some of your previous games but they were all scum LOL.
My first game:
Cosmic Horror Filter
I replaced in, and lurked hardcore:
My Little Pony Mafia Filter
Replaced in, never really caught up with the thread, but it's probably the most appropriate:
XLVII Filter
On January 15 2012 19:40 EchelonTee wrote:
@CC, care to explain why you feel wiggles/kita are good lynch choices?
Well, It's more that I feel the 'worst' candidates should be carefully scrutinized. Someone who announced their candidacy, and then appears to have more or less disappeared half-way through day 1 is inherently scummy to me. A townie shouldn't be losing interest in the elections, especially when they were so up in the air for so long.
I'm not sure which people fit that best at the moment, with things like if Risk.Nuke was just replying because I included him in the list of candidates or not.
I will go through them in more detail at some point later on in the night.
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On January 15 2012 22:19 Adam4167 wrote:
Nice list there Bill Murray, I find myself agreeing with most of it.
Any reason why:
1.kingjames01
9.Kenpachi
fail to earn a place?
Which parts do you disagree with?
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On January 16 2012 01:20 rgTheSchworz wrote:Ok, I see you have responded.Good, first things first: I noticed you actually only contribute when you are threatened.Your post confirms that.Suspicious but not nearly enough to make a case. Then You proceed by attacking your attackers, namely JayJay and me. Show nested quote +
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He made some bad posts and then disappears, agree. It's odd, but some people have to do stuff on the weekend. He's def a candidate though - Jay
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I just realised this. Look at my posthistory and tell me if you would describe it as "I made some bad posts".
SCUM for softdefending me without seeing my filter.
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I don't know, if I should respond to that. L had a point and called me out for a reason. I like to clarify things then. And it is important to do so.
But your accusation is clearly OMGUS. I didn't even really accuse you and said you might be busy during the weekend. Who are you to tell me that I didn't look into your filter and that I don't keep a spreadsheet? That's just not right. Also, notice how I said bad, not scummy.
So a) you're campaign "always a townie" was just. well, bad. I didn't like it, it felt generic, it was badly formated and it lacked a solid gameplan.
b) calling out rgSchworz because he didn't like your campaign either in a very agressive and condescending way. again, not even really scummy. just bad.
All in all yeah, I think you are one candidate to look out for. After this post even more. Although, and I repeat myself here, I don't even think you're scummy, but you seem scummy, because your posts lack quality.
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What omgus are you speaking of? Try to get into my head as I am getting into his head. He is doing a typical scum-move, softdefend the townie, In itself it's not a scummy move. Scum loves to do this but townies do this to and that is not what I am reacting on. Here is the thing. Jay refered to my posts as bad. Which to anyone who looks at them could see they are clearly not bad. They are few but there isn't a single irrelevant/bad post in there. So why would anyone call them bad? Well they wouldn't. So why would Jay defend me without reading my filter. Well because he is scum and therefor know I am town and unluckily assumed that the reason I was looked at was a bad post. He was beeing uncarefull and made a scumslip. And Jay haven't accused me so how can It be omgus. Look at the mass contradictions in his followup post. "I wasn't accusing you, but this is omgus" and "I don't think you're scum but you're scummy" <--- WHAT?
He is also bringing up rgSchwors which makes no sense unless perhaps feels it's more pro-town to ignore attacks on you.
I was just arguing/discussion with rhSchwors when he attacked my candidacy which is the natural thing to do. He's just trying hard to make me look bad.
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On January 15 2012 02:32 Mattchew wrote:
yay for risk.nuke and jayjay tunneling one another because they disagree
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mattchew, he might be tunneling the me, but I am clearly not tunneling him with one post. Why on earth did you make a post like that for because it's purpose seemed to be to minimize, lessen and prevent discussion of this. Which seems incredibly biased.
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If I'm elected I'll lynch Jay, I support BC for the election stronger then before because of jay's efforts against him.
You're working based on the assumption that your posts are awesome, which they are not. You have started a campaign then continued by NOT PUTTING ANY EFFORT.You accuse JayJay on no basis, instead making the assumption that he's scum to explain your POV. Show nested quote +Also scumpoints for using the awesome scumterm "we should" rather then "I will".
Utter bullshit.You want to basically isolate me by telling me to use,, I will''. And you know that without town's support, you're free to live another day. SCUM
He still hasn't explained this different forum formatting, I vote lynch this guy
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On January 16 2012 12:36 GGQ wrote:
lynch protact or cyber_cheese yo
Based on?
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On January 16 2012 16:11 Lanaia wrote:7. Cyber_Cheese - I believe he is mafia. Very poor mayoral campaign. Why bother when your main platform initially is how bad you are as scum? Also, you want to lynch someone based on his formatting. That's kind of strange, I feel.
The formatting looks like its copy pasted from a quicktopic, and he refuses to explain it.
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On January 16 2012 18:54 rgTheSchworz wrote:Please explain.
How could you possibly miss that four times?
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On January 16 2012 20:43 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Well, yeah, i didnt take the time to format properly, i agree.
But the assumption that I copy pasted from a mafia QT is going too far.
I missed your first 2 one liners, because, well they were 1 liners.
In the beginning i also made the mistake of editing one post for spelling, when normally i shouldn't have.
I hope that you realize that i can make mistakes that are, well, mistakes, and not OBVIOUS scumtells.
I don't even... it would take you less time take time to hit quote and reply...
but whatever, you finally acknowledged it, that's all I was going for
##Unvote
I need to sit down and think about this game at some point
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Is it just me, or is that some timing? Just as Sandroba decides GGQ as his vote
On January 17 2012 02:02 Chaosquo wrote:
ggq: posts quite aggressive and short, but wherebugsgo and palmar made similar posts. I leaned scum, but null read right now.
BAM! SOFTDEFEND
So I took a look at Chaosquo's Filter
On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 01:18 Palmar wrote:On January 13 2012 14:56 Protactinium wrote:On January 13 2012 14:26 Ciryandor wrote:
/confirm
LOL I won't vote for Kitaman after XLVIII's disaster. He was an absolute derp in that. Waiting for people to put in a serious campaign with a decent policy. This is why I'm waiting for Mr. Wiggles and Cyber_Cheese to provide us with good reasons; and right now, Wiggles has the best campaign of the lot.
I of course wonder if Sandroba or Palmar will try to get to the elections again. I'm running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. There's no way you seriously think Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign. Hey I agree with this guy, so I'm voting him. I am very much a fan of killing Ciryandor. What is it with Ciryandor? 1 Palmar, are you now trolling us? I agree with Toadesstern that a) you are mafia and dont care about the game or b) you have a special tactic, but randomly accusing him does not help .. 2Wiggles: Does your post mean you are stepping down as candidate? 3On that topic, could all people that are serious in their campaign make it clear? For me, right now there are: BC, BM(?), kitaman and risk.nuke. I think the number of candidates has to be limited to enable a clearer choice.
On January 14 2012 01:44 Chaosquo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 01:32 Palmar wrote:On January 14 2012 01:27 Chaosquo wrote:
a) you are mafia and dont care about the game Prove it. I was just commenting on your playstyle. I was just following the meta on you (town=vocal, scum=lurking), but seeing as you were quite active as "scum" in resistance, I retract my statement. But still posting one-liners is not helping much, no? 24
On January 14 2012 01:46 Chaosquo wrote:
I have to ask: Is the kill Ciry thing a meta thing? Because I didnt see much scummy things from him.1
On January 14 2012 08:38 Chaosquo wrote:
I still think BC is quite towny, as he put himself quite into the spotlight and his posts didnt raise suspicions. I just cannot imagine he would risk his quite good shot at an elected role by claiming mason if he was scum. Therefore, I think for the time I'm going to vote BC for mayor. I could be totally outplayed, but so be it. Or maybe I put too much value into an elected scum.
I am a new player5, so I can imagine that good scum team can manipulate a inexperienced player, but he will probably only influence the game with his single vote (if he's green), so I can see why masons staying hidden is advantageous for town.
Also, since I got ignored the first time, why is there so much hate towards Ciry?1 I dont think his posts are very scummy, but there are 3 people (sandroba, proactinium and sheth) pushing for his lynch. I also dont think this alone is a scumtell, but its still pretty irritatiting ..
1 - Protects Ciryandor multiple times.
2 - Casts doubt on both Palmar
3 - And Wiggles
4 - Apologetic
5 - Calls attention to his inexperience
##Vote Chaosquo
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