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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#709
Remember that list? Forgot to ~Opz~.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 13 2012 20:37 GMT
#711
On January 14 2012 05:35 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Agh should have proof read that, I have another point for why BC's claim is protown. It forces discussion of the issue and it gives us something to talk about on day 1 instead of just discussing the usual things which often lead nowhere. As scum, the status quo of talking in circles day 1 is great, BC's claim interupts that though and suddenly puts people (especially scum) on the spot to talk about an issue that is not normally present day 1.

It's discussing the set-up, we don't really need that when we could be scum hunting.
There is enough information generated by elections already.

It's not discussing the set-up only. Don't try to low the worth (word?) the BC claim fuss.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 13 2012 20:47 GMT
#718
On January 14 2012 05:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On January 14 2012 05:33 Kurumi wrote:
Have You been to the new Sherlock Holmes? It's good. Anyway, Meapak's reasoning sounds reasonable and I feel stupid for not getting such basic thing.
BC, do You think You'd be dead if not elected into office today?


I feel like I might get shot? Mafia has to outweigh the importance of the mason role. Do they risk outing themselves faster by killing me, or keep me alive and hope that i get offed by town?

Do I think I will die, at some point yes, totally depends on how the game rolls.

Cool. I suppose You're going to try to confirm people through PMs, since fishing for blue roles is not something needed for a Town mason, right? Yeah, that's what everyone should just say open in the thread if it happens. Anyway. If You get elected we get very strong both town and scum player in the office, also You're really good in PM manipulation. The risks as for me, are still 50/50. If You're scum, we're fucked, if You're not, they're fucked.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 13 2012 20:51 GMT
#725
On January 14 2012 05:48 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:47 Kurumi wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:33 Kurumi wrote:
Have You been to the new Sherlock Holmes? It's good. Anyway, Meapak's reasoning sounds reasonable and I feel stupid for not getting such basic thing.
BC, do You think You'd be dead if not elected into office today?


I feel like I might get shot? Mafia has to outweigh the importance of the mason role. Do they risk outing themselves faster by killing me, or keep me alive and hope that i get offed by town?

Do I think I will die, at some point yes, totally depends on how the game rolls.

Cool. I suppose You're going to try to confirm people through PMs, since fishing for blue roles is not something needed for a Town mason, right? Yeah, that's what everyone should just say open in the thread if it happens. Anyway. If You get elected we get very strong both town and scum player in the office, also You're really good in PM manipulation. The risks as for me, are still 50/50. If You're scum, we're fucked, if You're not, they're fucked.


so is it safer to have him not in office in your opinion?

The worst part of this is that Scum can have double roles, so we could elect Scum Mason Jack and be fucked. But seriously, we either gain immune STRONG town player or we either get STRONG scum player. We either gain a lot or we gain nothing. I'd prefer us to have BC in the office.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 00:45 GMT
#811
On January 14 2012 09:25 Kenpachi wrote:
day1 sucks. ill vote the bandwagon.

have you got a gun this game
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 00:53 GMT
#813
Elections are weird. I prefer normal Day 1 starts. I am left only with Townie and job to elect another Townie. Suuuuuure >_> My vote will go to Protactinum/BC though.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 01:13 GMT
#817
no, mason me so we can PM together for the sake of PMing.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 10:58 GMT
#985
Claiming mason and saying that You're now 50% mafia 50% town when You're not mason kinda defeats the 50% argument, yes? Voting the Incog/Myst hydra.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 11:16 GMT
#993
On January 14 2012 20:08 Palmar wrote:
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On January 14 2012 20:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:02 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:57 Palmar wrote:
Wherebugsgo, can you summarize your case against me in one post so I can break it down and tell you why you're dumb and bad, possibly scum.


I don't explain shit to scum

Explain it to me then.


go read my filter

in one word, meta.


So, knowing each game is a different game, and that meta is not valid unless it's applied very precisely (you can't say something like x has posted less than usual, what's important is how, why and what he has posted), you still think that you have a valid enough case?

Would you bet your abilities as a player on this case?

Hey Palmar
Why small posts instead of normal ones?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 11:17 GMT
#995
On January 14 2012 20:16 Palmar wrote:
Cause I feel like it Kurumi.

Why are we derping Day 1 instead of doing something useful?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 11:21 GMT
#997
On January 14 2012 20:18 Palmar wrote:
Day 1 has two goals, getting someone I want in office, and killing someone I want to kill. Incog and Ciryandor fit the bill, my work is done here.

Wait, You want Incog elected and Ciry killed or both of them killed?
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 15:30 GMT
#1020
On January 14 2012 22:13 L wrote:
Holy Jalapenos. Just noticed my game started. Time to catch up.

All is lost
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 15:45 GMT
#1023
L, could You actually put names in Your post? It seems vague without them.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 18:28 GMT
#1101
On January 15 2012 03:12 Ciryandor wrote:
Whew, finally caught up after 25+ pages. Seriously. I just got home from being away all day today and had a long day at work yesterday, and people think I'm a good lynch candidate, especially for like half the mayor candidates? That's just fine and dandy, but there are other players who fit the same criterion.

Some reads on players of interest:
I honestly think GGQ has just as bad a posting history as mine, and that he has escaped scrutiny by creating an FoS on me just because I was asking why I should be believing the early candidates like Cyber_Cheese instead of Mr. Wiggles during that time.

I also can't blame Protactinium for thinking I'm bad as well with my responses, but I wouldn't vote for him just because he thinks BC is scum, and he hasn't buttressed that argument since. As far as I've read, I think BC has townie interests at heart and is in the usual situation with leading mayor candidates, having a hard time justifying what he would do with the position beyond the Day 1 lynch power, but a point against him as well is that he has not delivered his mason partner, which he had decided to reveal in one of his posts.

Also, risk.nuke being suddenly defensive after some criticism of him making a half hearted push for mayor is IMO very newbie townie play, or a scum being baited to attract others' attention to him. This should be noted as I think risk is noob town who does not know how to defend his positions properly.

Just a question, where is Kurumi? At least sandroba has posted even if he thinks I'm scummy for asking if he's running, and Palmar has said he doesn't really care now about the vote; which is uncharacteristically sour of him. I read Palmar as trolling town more than scum because of that, as he would have probably given a token "I support someone because they're worth trusting" post (as that could influence newbies/lurkers) who see people commenting at him being a veteran voting that way at the very least if he were scum.

Finally, I have to note that Bill's post that it is likely we have a scum candidate among the front-runners leads me to think we should actually do a vote-swing to a random strong candidate, and that the votes for that person should come from people who have already voted, as IMO it is more likely for scum to have delayed voting to have more influence over the result in a close race and not waste votes in a throw-away push for their candidate if a runaway win were to happen. Right now I'm torn between Proact and Sandroba in voting, because at least they're concrete in promising ONE NAME to lynch instead of being wishy-washy in getting a list of targets up, and that I think they have plans for town after Day 1 that don't need to be publicized yet.

scum
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 18:39 GMT
#1113
On January 15 2012 03:34 Mattchew wrote:
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On January 15 2012 03:33 L wrote:
On January 15 2012 03:05 Mattchew wrote:
On January 15 2012 02:52 Jitsu wrote:
RE: Mattchew/Mayor, ect. ect.

There are a few reasons, at least in my own mind. What's the motivation for pushing a player that isn't as a vaunted scumhunter as others? You said it yourself - they have the protection and the auto-lynch ability thing. In fact, you yourself have said before that you want a Veteran in office so that they can use their abilities to push a strong lynch candidate through:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 14 2012 02:21 Mattchew wrote:
/confirmed

Thoughts: (stealing format from EchelonTee)

kitaman
I don't think that this is a bad campaign post and I actually liked what he said except for how he isn't the best town player. He just seems a little to passive and I don't think that he is the best person to vote for.

bumatlarge-(also made a post here)
If this was a smaller game or if we all knew each other and were all vets I would say his list of to-do's for blues was scummy. But this is a huge game, with a lot of new players that might be getting roles they have never had before. I don't like the "mason me!" but I do think that this is helpful to town. Other than the list his campaign is cookie cutter. Not getting my vote for mayor.

Wiggles
You want to play the game first and worry about being mayor second. Thats fine and good but will not earn my vote.

CC
Scum play is bad = vote me mayor. No thanks.

Foolishness (for BM)
I would like this a lot if there was evidence to support this. Would like to see some games from BM as town or where Foolishness caught on to him early, or both, and by or both I mean please link both examples.

risk.nuke
Another campaign starting with I am not a very good town.

BM
Seems pro-town. Still want evidence from him or foolishness on previous games because that seems to be the base of their campaign

BC
He is the best candidate in my opinion. Strong leadership, confidence and experience.

sandroba
"I get shot early alot and Im decent at scum hunting." It will be great to have you on the town team and if you do well scum hunting hopefully you get a medic. But this isn't the leader I want with 3 votes or a jailing ability.

VE
I think I still want a vet in office. Sorry, maybe I end up looking stupid but keeping someone who is proven to be better than others for town alive is a priority for me.

Meapak
The second strongest candidate behind BC. Proven vet and already active. He is also honest, he says "i want the protection". I feel like scum would shy away from saying something like this.


It makes sense. With the amount of experience that could possibly roll into an elected, protected position, you would want someone that is, equally, a good scumhunter and analytically strong player.

But than you run for the position as well. And you even say yourself that you are not the strongest town player. I think that plays into the part on how you could be Foolishness's puppet.

Consider this. Could you not see the benefits the mafia would glean from you gaining the Mayor position over an experienced town player? I could. The three reasons you explained that you wanted Mayor position were pretty meak, in my opinion.


You are correct, having an experienced scum hunter townie is the best for office. However, every experienced candidate running has had cases made against them. I am a better candidate to vote for because I am less risk to flip scum.

Consider this. Could you not see the benefits the mafia would glean from an experienced scum vet gaining the mayor position over a town player.

The bolded portion is a flat out lie as well as a cloaked kingmaker.

You're now my lynch target if elected.


what is a cloaked kingmaker?

and how is that a lie.

A cute word for mafia.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 19:05 GMT
#1126
GG
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 20:11 GMT
#1172
PENIS
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 21:49 GMT
#1261
Quick 3 voting on one guy what
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 21:52 GMT
#1265
On January 15 2012 06:51 risk.nuke wrote:
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On January 15 2012 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
L, I'll prove I'm Jack by shooting tonight and Masoning you tomorrow then. That's my plan.

This doesn't rule out scum mason.

Or scum Jack.
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 14 2012 22:00 GMT
#1271
Because Mafia elects roles on Night 1 (that's correct?) they have no special powers prior to Night 2?
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