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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 14:05 GMT
#3754
On January 23 2012 22:55 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 21:47 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 23 2012 20:55 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm a doctor
I haven't used a jailkeep the last 2 nights because I have been truly protecting Foolishness
say goodbye to your protection folks
I wouldnt normally ever claim doctor, but I feel like Im really going to be lynched
adios

a) you can do both, protect and jail
b) why didnt you claim medic in the first place?
.
This is your last day here sheriff. Pack your stuff and get out

are you joking?
I could have been saving, and trying to snipe mafia PRs?
I am glad that I have saved 2 jailkeeps, then, I can keep 2 confirmed town alive in late game
why the hell are you all lynching me?!


Cause your play is hurting the town? You also lied multiple times.
And you are still ignoring my question concerning the bodyguards...... why?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 14:21 GMT
#3760
On January 23 2012 23:07 supersoft wrote:
how is lying hurting the town?
i hate these general rules that don't fit to the individual case!

go cwawe, tell me how his lying hurted the town?


A lying sherrif is hurting the town in my opinion.
He has no reason to lie to save him from getting shot by scum during the night for example. Claiming hatter, missing jailactions, it's just shit play!

If he lied to me about the bodyguards and i see BC list one of those alleged bodyguards as scum, i draw conclusion that either BC or that BG is potential scum. If it then turns out to be a lie, it's a waste of damn effort and draws the focus away from actual usefull scumhunting.

And he is still ignoring my question if he ALSO lied about those bodyguards.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 14:32 GMT
#3763
On January 23 2012 23:25 supersoft wrote:
A townie has no interest in knowing the identity of the BGs right?
Am I wrong there? Why do you even ask BM about them?


I didn't ask for them. I pm'd flamewheel i would like to mason with our newly elected sheriff. I waited for a confirmation of the action(which isn't needed i learned) and then Bill Murray just instantly gave me the two names. Jitsu did ask for the names though it seems.

So that's weird for a sherrif to do in the first place.

This is what Bill Murray pm'd with me . I asterixed the bodyguard names he posted to me in there.

+ Show Spoiler +

From: Bill Murray [ 4885 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: mason
Date: 1/17/12 21:39
I am worried one of them is the mafia jack
I don't see how I can be confirmed, unless my jailkeeping can lower their KP, or I save someone from being killed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original Message From Cwave:
How do you propose we get this show on the road so i can 100% confirm you as fellow town?
I can mason Opz i guess and check your bg list.
Or mason BC and see how he reacts.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hide nested quote -

Original Message From Bill Murray:
The fact you didn't write me a message when you masoned me has me thinking you're pretty clear
In case I am killed, the bodyguards are ****** and *******
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 14:46 GMT
#3766
On January 23 2012 23:42 supersoft wrote:
jitsu asked?
BM, i want all your pm traffic.
censor the bg names please.


If you get him to come out of his acid trip, try asking him if the bodyguard names were a lie or not.
This in relation to BloodyCobbler listing one of these names as scum.


I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 16:24 GMT
#3779
On January 24 2012 01:22 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
On January 23 2012 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:
If I was mafia, I would have substituted both bodyguards, and killed BC
Is BC dead? No. Because I can't kill anyone.

Erm, what? BC is mayor. You couldn't kill him even if you wanted to.

yeah, but i could if i sent in the kills like this:
brownbear
kitaman
BC
donzo


Well that's that then......
Sent in the kills? Wot??!?!!??!
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 16:32 GMT
#3787
On January 24 2012 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:
cwave, im ignoring you, quit asking
you know who they are, go read our mafia IRC together

1) Medic protection on BGs
2) ???
3) Profit!


You just outed the two names you gave to me as bodyguards.
Why would you ignore me, what would then result in?

We never spoke on any irc? Just shorts pm's after i mason'd you.
Why are you lying again.... -.-
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 18:47 GMT
#3818
Since Bill Murray went loco and "outed"the names he pm'd to me i will ask this to BloodyCobbler one last time.
Bill Murray "outs" Brownbear as a BG. This is also one of the same names Bill Murray gave to me and Jitsu.

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 24 2012 01:22 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
On January 23 2012 22:54 Bill Murray wrote:
If I was mafia, I would have substituted both bodyguards, and killed BC
Is BC dead? No. Because I can't kill anyone.

Erm, what? BC is mayor. You couldn't kill him even if you wanted to.

yeah, but i could if i sent in the kills like this:
brownbear
kitaman
BC
donzo


Before, BloodyCobbler assures that Bill Murray gave false names which directs the heat away.

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 22 2012 23:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 23:40 jaj22 wrote:
Although BM lying about the bodyguard(s) also makes sense from a scum perspective, as an attempt to push suspicion away from Sandroba.



based on cwaves comment i can already tell you that bm did not release the correct bg names to them


But here you list him as lynchtarget.
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 22 2012 04:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 03:20 Toadesstern wrote:
oh also I'd like to hear some names from you BC. Just shout out who you want to lynch BC right now. preferable after the night-/day switch as well.


currently based on reading via filter.

BM, WBG, and Meapak in that order of preference.

After that insert Glurio, Evantrees, Munk-e, opz, kenpachi, brownbear.

As there are 6 mafia left, some of those are obviously at this point not correct, but they all seem intelligent choices based on the play of each one of the.


Does not compute. Is Bill Murray really a pathological liar and can i just straight out ignore him for now on and for all of eternity?
Or did you infact list one of the bodyguards on your own lynch-list?
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 22:16 GMT
#3874
On January 24 2012 07:13 Toadesstern wrote:
fine, add cwawe to the list as well, doesn't change a thing


cwaVe... im a wave... in the sea.... damn you people :\
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 22:19 GMT
#3876
On January 24 2012 07:14 BrownBear wrote:
I should clarify. BM has outed me as a "bodyguard", and in the interest of not lying to town and hopefully cutting a little bit of the craziness out of this mess BM's created, I've decided to tell the truth - I am in fact a BG. I was hesitant at first for obvious reasons, but this is going to get talked to death over the course of the day and waste valuable time, and I just want what I can control to be cleared up, so I'm not "guilty by association" if BM happens to flip red.

That is all.


Well then BloodyCobbler has lied about not listing one of his bodyguards!
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 22:23 GMT
#3878
On January 24 2012 07:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 07:10 Toadesstern wrote:
ok glurio right, forgot about him, that makes:
BC
Supersoft
opz
jitsu
glurio

I'd say out of those two BC & opz sounds reasonable or only BC. This is speculation but let me explain my train of thoughts:
What we lynched so far: Godfather + Goon + Goon + Goon
So 6 people are left and we only found 1 powerrole, their beloved godfather. Let's just assume mafia HAS at least 1 mason. Do you think they would give mason powers to people like jitsu? I mean mason? They could give him another power role, no problem because those new people get away with lurking way more than people like BC. Therefore he's more safe and they can talk about how he would use it. Let me get this clear: I am NOT sayin jitsu is mafia, it's a thought experiment (wtf, dict.cc says it's "Gedankenexperiment" in english as well? That's german :p ).
Especially mason is hard to do for new players so BC makes perfect sense. Also Godfather on L makes perfect sense if BC is mayor because they don't need to godfather BC if he gets mayor. He's immune to DT's.

Given what I just said and yes it is speculation it sounds perfectly reasonable that BC might as well be a Mason and those other 3 power roles might or might now be hidden within lurkers. However again, I doubt mafia would give people like glurio or jitsu mason. I could see opz or Supersoft as reasonable but other than that?
Of course that implies that there's no other masons around who did not claim until now but since noone said a thing I'd say there's noone left. If there is another mason or you've been masoned by someone you're a moron and need to tell us.

I really don't see how mafia gave mason powers to someone like I already mentioned. Why did L flip without mason? Why did Sandroba flip without mason? Because there's another good player in here who's got mason powers, and that player is BC.



Do you think I faked logs day 1?
Do you think if I was a mason rather than masoning a town member I would "mason a mafia"?
Do you think that I would ever expose myself in pm's when I could easily fake them for my team members with little to no heat on myself?

Opz and glurio are the clearly best choices for the mafia masons. If you truly believe I am red analyze me please. Talking about "what makes sense" when you completely ignore the continued use of my role thus far this game is hilarious.

If I was mafia, do you really think I would wait 2 days of letting protract rape my team before killing him?

You can say all those points are wifom, however you are basing an entire argument on guess work and not real analysis. It is all speculation that at no point in time can be proven. Make a real case, don't pretend to make real cases.


Hello mafia jack!!!
If you "were" a mason"?
You ARE a mason or so you claimed............!

##VOTE: BloodyC0bbler
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 23 2012 23:18 GMT
#3901
On January 24 2012 07:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
really? I'm already a proven fucking mason dickweed. -_- I've masoned protract, roba, foolishness and meapak. thats 4 uses. So you could argue I am red and that 3 of those people are red as well as a jack cannot use the same ability twice. So what is it?

Meapak myself and foolishness all red to support your theory.

Also, your trying to make a case of me using the past context of a word. I was a mason then, I am a mason now, I will continue being a mason in the future.

Why the hell are you guys making cases off of grammar when you're not doing event doing it properly?


Funny that you list Sandroba(your first mason "target") as your second.
Show me Meapak logs please right now and ill reconsider my vote.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
January 24 2012 08:26 GMT
#4312
Dear lord, gg.

I was so convinced that Bloodycobbler was scum, hahahaha.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
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