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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 08 2011 16:25 GMT
#6
/in
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 14 2011 03:52 GMT
#133
/confirm
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 15 2011 16:39 GMT
#297
On August 15 2011 23:54 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 23:49 Varpulis wrote:
statistically unlikely, but possible that at least one of the scum hasn't posted yet. Lots of vets too. JeeJee, OrigninalName (vets compared to the very new playerbase of this game)

Well we don't know what the scum count is at the start. As they apparently have the ability to either kill or convert us I would suspect beginning numbers to be quite low. If that is the case then it is more statistically likely that they have not posted. Of course it's entirely possible that something may have happened that we as town have not been told about.


I was just out of town dudes. Im back now and reading I swear ill be more active ._.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 15 2011 16:40 GMT
#298
Oh and btw somebody already claimed to me in PM land...WHILE IVE DONE NOTHING TO LOOK TOWN WHAT THE FUCK.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 15 2011 16:45 GMT
#299
On August 15 2011 05:52 DropBear wrote:
I present to you: THE PLAN!!!

[image loading]


CLAIMING

Traits are not alignment based so anyone with the following traits should openly claim immediately:

- Rivals should claim once Day 1 has started. Rivals are much more likely to be townies than Mafia. Mafia already have their rivals: the town. Not only this, it puts into perspective your motivations in getting specific people killed. If you prove yourself useful and don't fuck things up you will be assisted where possible in achieving your goals.

- Short Fuse should claim and never use their power of modkill. If you fail or succeed, deliberately goading people will shit up the thread to no end. Also it makes us seriously consider the lynching of a Short Fuse, the potential of having a VisceraEyes/BC event needs to be known beforehand.

- Rabid Fanboy #1. You are essentially a mayor. Do not use this power without first putting it out in the open. We get a replacement if you die anyway so you are not as important as other roles, no need to hide.

- Thief. The rapidly increasing chances of being instalynched as roles are stolen means that scum theives would be unlikely to risk stealing a role a second time, 1for1 trades are not good for Mafia. Claim outright so we can work out when and if you use your role.

Additionally, all players should claim their roles, traits and alignments to me via PM asap :D

VOTING

Multiple lynches should be avoided on the first few days. We can save them until later when we have more information. Especially with the Night 0 start where people will probably die before we can get a lynch off, we can't just start offing large numbers of people straight away if we mislynch we get fucked much quicker.

CELLS

Are stupid. From what I have read in past games everyone ignores them and chooses to PM whoever they please. I am in favour of communicating with who you want and whoever wants to talk to you, forcing people into an arbitrarily formed cell doesn't make sense when the formation of such groups can easily be biased.

Discuss!


Just some flaws ive noticed in the plan while ive been reading:

Additionally, all players should claim their roles, traits and alignments to me via PM asap :D


Dont joke about this shit, claiming day 1 to anyone is a stupid idea. This is just obvious role fishing otherwise.

CELLS

Are stupid. From what I have read in past games everyone ignores them and chooses to PM whoever they please. I am in favour of communicating with who you want and whoever wants to talk to you, forcing people into an arbitrarily formed cell doesn't make sense when the formation of such groups can easily be biased.


While preassigned cells are not worth it, try to PM at least 2 people all game long to bounce ideas off them if them. Being active and promoting dissucssion in IRC works fairly well.

The actual role part of the plan isnt a half bad idea but the issue is you have to find a person to claim too in the first place, and that in and of itself is a risk.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 00:02 GMT
#342
On August 16 2011 08:50 Varpulis wrote:
3 way lynch? Ambitious. I'll roll with it.

Slam500, feel like contributing your opinon? in over 150 posts in the thread you can't find a single scummy person? Some effort would be nice.


We should not be 3 way lynching D1.

We lynch our scummiest suspect first and see if we are going in the right direction.

Right now Slam500 is not a half bad lynch. However we have to keep in mind that he is a newbie, he is going to make mistakes and possibly be really intimidated, causing him to make more mistakes.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 00:17 GMT
#345
[19:17] <OriginalName> Forumite
[19:17] <OriginalName> isnt a half bad lynch atm
[19:17] <OriginalName> Nisani's "Scumslip"
[19:17] <OriginalName> is not worth lynching over
[19:18] <OriginalName> we did something similer on YM last game
[19:18] <OriginalName> and he was Town
[19:18] <Varpulis> i'd say forumite/slam500 are both good targets
[19:18] <OriginalName> Slam500 is also a half decent target
[19:18] <OriginalName> but
[19:18] <OriginalName> hes really really newbie as fuck
[19:18] <OriginalName> which makes me go for forumite over him
[19:18] <OriginalName> Forumite
[19:18] <OriginalName> is being useless as hell
[19:18] <OriginalName> generic advice
[19:18] <OriginalName> up the wall
[19:18] <OriginalName> feigning inactivity
[19:18] <Nisani201> there's not much to say though
[19:18] <Varpulis> active lurking
[19:19] <Varpulis> more like
[19:19] <OriginalName> errr
[19:19] <OriginalName> i meant
[19:19] <OriginalName> Feigning activity
[19:19] <OriginalName> Whenever he gets called out
[19:19] <OriginalName> he comes
[19:19] <OriginalName> but never when he doesnt have too
[19:19] <OriginalName> Im going to throw my vote on him

I frankly agree with JeeJee at this point.

##Vote: Forumite

Also guys forget about multilynch, its too easy to manipulate and some townie is going to end up fucking with scum reads during switches. Just play it like a normal unless we REALLY need it or have a far enough lead to use it without too much fear.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 00:43 GMT
#351
On August 16 2011 09:32 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 09:02 OriginalName wrote:
On August 16 2011 08:50 Varpulis wrote:
3 way lynch? Ambitious. I'll roll with it.

Slam500, feel like contributing your opinon? in over 150 posts in the thread you can't find a single scummy person? Some effort would be nice.


We should not be 3 way lynching D1.

We lynch our scummiest suspect first and see if we are going in the right direction.

Right now Slam500 is not a half bad lynch. However we have to keep in mind that he is a newbie, he is going to make mistakes and possibly be really intimidated, causing him to make more mistakes.

Nisani makes a blatant scum slip and then disappears and you want to lynch a noob?


I lynched off a "Blatent scumslip" last game and we hit town.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 19:38 GMT
#375
On August 17 2011 04:33 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one.


I did give a good defense, and you were in the IRC chatroom while it happened. Don't lie about that shit. (The chat starts at the bottom and ends at the top)

+ Show Spoiler +
14:07 < shinbi> i see
14:06 < Nisani201> so I said that I wasn't sure
14:06 < Nisani201> t as obvious as i thought
14:06 < Nisani201> And then I thought, if he was asking that question, then maybe the answer wasn'
14:06 < shinbi> and then?
14:06 < shinbi> so you thought 'ah, no kp due to night post, let's say that!'
14:05 < shinbi> just run me through the thought process here
14:05 < Nisani201> i'm confused as to what you want me to respond to now
14:05 < Nisani201> i just said
14:05 < shinbi> ?
14:04 < shinbi> and then
14:04 < shinbi> so you posted that with certainty due to that reasoning
14:04 < shinbi> ok nisani
14:04 < shinbi> hold on taa
14:04 < taa> then why didnt you say that?
14:03 < Nisani201> and I figured that there would be no KP because the night post didn't mention sending in kills
14:02 < shinbi> and then?
14:02 < Nisani201> i said it with complete certainty by instinct, because saying things tentatively is even worse
14:02 < Sknowman> "at least, i don't think they can"
14:01 < Sknowman> discrediting it
14:01 < Sknowman> then quickly made a post
14:01 < Sknowman> why you said with complete certainty "Scum had no KP"
14:01 < Sknowman> about
14:01 < Nisani201> ?
14:01 < Nisani201> about how I thought mafia didn't have any KP last night
14:00 < Sknowman> everything we just talked about
14:00 < Nisani201> explain what
13:59 < Sknowman> care to explain?
13:59 < Sknowman> nisani


I'd vote for you, but unfortunately you probably wont get lynched because I guess I'm the only one who sees through this bullshit. So instead I'm going to vote for the second best lynch, which is slam500.

##Vote: slam500


I dont know why everyone is jumping on it as a scumslip as I figured that was the case anyways ._.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 20:42 GMT
#381
01:27 < Nisani201> if i flip town, ON could still be mafia
01:27 < Nisani201> trying to make friends
01:29 -!- Kurumi [Kurumi@host-81-190-111-34.gdynia.mm.pl] has quit [Ping timeout]
01:29 < Varpulis> good point
01:29 < Varpulis> but if you're mafia, guess who's also mafia?
01:29 < Nisani201> who?
01:29 < Varpulis> ON, for defending you to the last
01:30 < Nisani201> what if ON is a dt

Im not defending him to the last. Im merely stating that I doubt this is going to cause us to net scum, however as far as day 1 evidence goes I guess I can see why everyone is jumping on the wagon.

Im still going to look around for alternatives since really most of the main suspects are newbs aside from Nisani and JeeJee.

Im going to take a look at Grey with my next post.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 20:42 GMT
#382
01:27 < Nisani201> if i flip town, ON could still be mafia
01:27 < Nisani201> trying to make friends
01:29 -!- Kurumi [Kurumi@host-81-190-111-34.gdynia.mm.pl] has quit [Ping timeout]
01:29 < Varpulis> good point
01:29 < Varpulis> but if you're mafia, guess who's also mafia?
01:29 < Nisani201> who?
01:29 < Varpulis> ON, for defending you to the last
01:30 < Nisani201> what if ON is a dt


Im not defending him to the last. Im merely stating that I doubt this is going to cause us to net scum, however as far as day 1 evidence goes I guess I can see why everyone is jumping on the wagon.

Im still going to look around for alternatives since really most of the main suspects are newbs aside from Nisani and JeeJee.

Im going to take a look at Grey with my next post.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 16 2011 20:46 GMT
#385
On August 16 2011 04:13 GreYMisT wrote:
So Mafia couldn't kill last night, but other actions could be taken right?

and lol at the HuK picture.

On August 16 2011 04:22 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 12:00 Ciryandor wrote:
Be reminded that it is a Night 0 deadline and that you have 36 hours to choose your scan/spy whatever targets.


This seemed to indicate no KPs first night


So basically Grey makes a similer "slip" to Nisani and in all honesty is much more useless at this point.

On August 17 2011 04:18 GreYMisT wrote:
Voting Nisani as well, its either him or slam500, but atm we have more evidence for Nisani in my opinion.


Sheeps onto Nisani for no real reason.

If anything Id almost rather go after him because at least Nisani is here most of the time.

OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 17 2011 02:32 GMT
#418
On August 17 2011 09:52 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 09:17 JeeJee wrote:

I would also like to bring up dropbear -- who didn't do anything in this thread apart from talking about rivals and throwing away his day one vote with no reasoning. Where have you gone to?


JeeJee makes very good point in this post. the only real information we have about dropbear is that he posted "the plan" which basically consisted of roleclaiming certain traits. on top of that he also stated that everyone should roleclaim to him via pm asap. after making this plan he drops off the map, seeing how unreceptive we were about that idea. he then proceded to throw his vote away on someone who he knew would not be lynched.
I propose we lynch dropbear, and have our detective investigate nishani tonight to see if he is telling the truth.

##UNVOTE
##VOTE: DROPBEAR


There is absolutely zero reason to lynch dropbear, at the very least his plan started dissucssion for town. There are way better candidates, such as you who despite all the pressure have decided to attack a decent townread.

Good day scum.

##Vote Greymist
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 17 2011 02:33 GMT
#419
On August 17 2011 11:24 Nisani201 wrote:
Based on what people have been saying, I'm liking the DropBear lynch. JeeJee will be checked tonight. Medics, PLEASE make sure to protect me.

##Vote: DropBear


I disagree.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 17 2011 13:53 GMT
#438
Drop you realise lynch is in 1 hour right?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 17 2011 13:57 GMT
#440
On August 17 2011 22:56 DropBear wrote:
I do realise this. It was 4 hours when I posted it, which should have been plenty of time.


yay for sleeping T_T
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 17 2011 19:21 GMT
#489
For the record I have this to show the people:

[09:15] <DropBear> keep this to yourself
[09:15] <OriginalName> what
[09:15] <DropBear> i said before that nisani is scum if i die
[09:15] <DropBear> the other one
[09:15] <DropBear> is jackal
[09:15] <DropBear> if i die tonight
[09:15] <OriginalName> Jackal is on the radar
[09:15] <DropBear> not as solid as nisani
[09:15] <OriginalName> if he doesnt start improving
[09:16] <DropBear> but have a look at him hard if i die
[09:16] <OriginalName> yeah
[09:16] <DropBear> im not going to give you my pms
[09:16] <DropBear> but
[09:16] <DropBear> if i die he needs pressure
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 18 2011 20:33 GMT
#540
I personally feel like lynching trotske.

Do you know why:

First he doesnt read who dies,
lurks like mad,
Then sends me this PM N0 before i have even posted.


Original Message From Trotske:
I am a Rival with Hiro Protagonist

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

I'm telling you this because you said you would be inactive until after the day post. and I don't have any sort of scum lean on you.

If I die to a mafia hit look at his ass. I have to this information to Sevryn also. in the event he posts after I die and it doesn't say anything about hiro look at him as mafia also.


He claims to me then Contradicts with this post

What do you guys think of Dropbear
I feel like his plan and the whole rival thing still hasn't been addressed, The whole part about rivals claims seems like a great way for scum to have people to frame. kill someones rival they look like scum so they get lynched aka almost getting a free KP and wasting a lynch.

I just dont know what to think of this anymore. We need to pressure him, we need him to be here and contribute.

##Vote Trotske
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 18 2011 20:33 GMT
#541
god my formatting sucks.
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 18 2011 20:57 GMT
#544
so I could of just shot you and got it over with? How did you know neither me or sevryn were scum.
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