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On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote:
Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting.
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Once again Sinani206 is in a position without an internet connection. He needs to be replaced.
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On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one.
I did give a good defense, and you were in the IRC chatroom while it happened. Don't lie about that shit. (The chat starts at the bottom and ends at the top)
+ Show Spoiler + 14:07 < shinbi> i see
14:06 < Nisani201> so I said that I wasn't sure
14:06 < Nisani201> t as obvious as i thought
14:06 < Nisani201> And then I thought, if he was asking that question, then maybe the answer wasn'
14:06 < shinbi> and then?
14:06 < shinbi> so you thought 'ah, no kp due to night post, let's say that!'
14:05 < shinbi> just run me through the thought process here
14:05 < Nisani201> i'm confused as to what you want me to respond to now
14:05 < Nisani201> i just said
14:05 < shinbi> ?
14:04 < shinbi> and then
14:04 < shinbi> so you posted that with certainty due to that reasoning
14:04 < shinbi> ok nisani
14:04 < shinbi> hold on taa
14:04 < taa> then why didnt you say that?
14:03 < Nisani201> and I figured that there would be no KP because the night post didn't mention sending in kills
14:02 < shinbi> and then?
14:02 < Nisani201> i said it with complete certainty by instinct, because saying things tentatively is even worse
14:02 < Sknowman> "at least, i don't think they can"
14:01 < Sknowman> discrediting it
14:01 < Sknowman> then quickly made a post
14:01 < Sknowman> why you said with complete certainty "Scum had no KP"
14:01 < Sknowman> about
14:01 < Nisani201> ?
14:01 < Nisani201> about how I thought mafia didn't have any KP last night
14:00 < Sknowman> everything we just talked about
14:00 < Nisani201> explain what
13:59 < Sknowman> care to explain?
13:59 < Sknowman> nisani
I'd vote for you, but unfortunately you probably wont get lynched because I guess I'm the only one who sees through this bullshit. So instead I'm going to vote for the second best lynch, which is slam500.
##Vote: slam500
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On August 17 2011 05:01 Trotske wrote:This is the scum slip imo. not that he thinks that mafia didn't have any KP. Why would he try to make himself look like he wasn't sure unless after he posted he realized it wasn't common knowledge. I mean most people prob thought that the scum must not have had KP last night but hes the person who said it then tried to make it look like he wasn't certain.
Did you read the chat logs? I explained the reasoning for that post in the chat logs.
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Here is another reason why slam500 is a better lynch, he provides more information than me. From the IRC: (this one starts at the top like a normal convo)
+ Show Spoiler +01:27 < Varpulis> the alignments of the guys defending you 01:27 < Nisani201> who is defending m 01:27 < Varpulis> or at least hints to it 01:27 < Varpulis> ON 01:27 < Nisani201> if i flip town, ON could still be mafia 01:27 < Nisani201> trying to make friends 01:29 -!- Kurumi [Kurumi@host-81-190-111-34.gdynia.mm.pl] has quit [Ping timeout] 01:29 < Varpulis> good point 01:29 < Varpulis> but if you're mafia, guess who's also mafia? 01:29 < Nisani201> who? 01:29 < Varpulis> ON, for defending you to the last 01:30 < Nisani201> what if ON is a dt 01:30 < Nisani201> and detected me last night 01:30 < Nisani201> oh well i guess you're under the assumption that i'm scum, so that doesn't work 01:31 < Navillus> also i think greymist is still much more suspicious if you flip scum, i mean it would be really stupid to have 2 scum defend you hard bc then if we lynch you theyre really fucked 01:32 < Nisani201> the problem with you're plan 01:32 < Nisani201> is that i'm not scum  01:32 < Navillus> well i saw that coming 01:32 < Nisani201> if I flip townie, what information will you gain? 01:33 < Nisani201> furthermore, if slam500 gets lynched, it provides information on navillus 01:33 < Nisani201> not matter which way he flips 01:33 < Navillus> if you flip town i will gain info, less info and harder to find info but i will gain it 01:33 < Nisani201> what info is gained if i flip town? 01:33 < Nisani201> brb 01:34 < Navillus> now i would share but im actually working under the assumption that you will have bright red blood when we kill you and so that would be a bad idea 01:36 < Nisani201> so if i flip town 01:36 < Nisani201> no information will be gained
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Where did I say that you are defending slam?
slam is a better lynch than me because he provides information on Nav not matter which way he flips, while lynching me will only provide information if I am scum. But that doesn't work because I'm not scum.
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That above post was referring to this:
On August 17 2011 05:40 Navillus wrote:
That seems to talk about why you are a good lynch... also I like, no I actually love how you're saying that varp and I are the "defenders" of slam when we are 2 of the 3 people voting for him right now
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On August 17 2011 06:55 Sknowman wrote:
I'm changing my vote to Nisani. After seeing his defense and the other chat (the one I wasn't in), it's all pretty weak. I was torn between him and Forumite anyways.
My defense is no weaker than the initial evidence against me.
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I'm Banling. I checked Forumite last night and he returned Townie.
GG
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Please vote for someone else, but not me. I will need a medic tonight so I wont get hit by the mafia.
Who do you guys want me to check tonight?
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On August 17 2011 09:17 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
ok nisani, whenever you check someone just tell us if hes town or not. Pm the guy you tested his role so that you cant fake your role and dont have to out blues. With that in mind you dont need to get lynched since you cant fake your role.
with other words :
you check x
pm x's role to x
x says in thread nisani is right
and that for a day of 3
##unvote
I like this plan.
On August 17 2011 09:35 Jackal58 wrote:
So Nisani who would you like to see lynched and why?
I would like to see slam500 or TAA lynched. Slam500 for reasons I stated earlier (he provides information) but also TAA, mainly for this post:
On August 16 2011 22:04 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
##vote nisani201
Magical knowledge and failing to give any reasons or giving a good defense. I dont get why people even argue over this one.
This is not OMGUS. If he were town-aligned then he would have no reason to state what I put in bold. It is a flat out lie.
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Based on what people have been saying, I'm liking the DropBear lynch. JeeJee will be checked tonight. Medics, PLEASE make sure to protect me.
##Vote: DropBear
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The only problem is that I cannot check if someone is a medic or protector. They will only return Townie.
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I'm going to take my vote off of DropBear for now; I'm voting for GrayMist instead. DropBear will be checked.
##Vote: GreyMist
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Curu or Jackal is scum.
Wait, what? Where did Curu come from?
Well, I'll tell you where. Let's go back to PM land.
Original Message From DropBear: I understand. Show nested quote +Original Message From Nisani201: I've taken my vote off of you. I'm checking you tonight. If I die tonight., then you're in bad shape. Original Message From DropBear: I don't really understand where your scum claim has come from. We hadn't spoken up until now and I'm the only person who has actually discussed a plan in thread, for good or for bad. I've opened the lines of communication and claimed to you. If you want to talk to me then I'll listen. If you want to be a dick then I'll protect someone else. Up to you. Original Message From Nisani201: Even if you are a medic, I don't need you. There's probably more than one. Original Message From DropBear: Rofl. I guess I'll go protect someone else then. Original Message From Nisani201: Yes the claim is legit. I'm a Banling. I don't want to work with scum. Original Message From DropBear:
Is it legit?
Look me in the eyes and tell me you are telling the truth.
You are voting for me despite the fact that we have had zero interaction. Why?
If you want me to work with you then you gotta be transparent.
During that time, I stated in the thread that DropBear would be checked instead of JeeJee. I then sent a PM to Curu with this message:
DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.
I received no reply to the message, and DropBear was killed tonight. So this means that Curu told his scum buddies that DropBear was healing me, and then he died.
,,,and then there's Jackal. Not sure where he came from, but I did get this PM from DropBear (subject was "If i die"):
Original Message From DropBear: Jackal is scum. Assuming you aren't as well 
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As for the Jackal thing, I'm guessing DropBear sent a message to Jackal similar to the one that was sent to Curu. But I don't have any more information.
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On August 18 2011 03:23 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 02:53 Nisani201 wrote:Curu or Jackal is scum.Wait, what? Where did Curu come from? Well, I'll tell you where. Let's go back to PM land. Original Message From DropBear: I understand. Original Message From Nisani201: I've taken my vote off of you. I'm checking you tonight. If I die tonight., then you're in bad shape. Original Message From DropBear: I don't really understand where your scum claim has come from. We hadn't spoken up until now and I'm the only person who has actually discussed a plan in thread, for good or for bad. I've opened the lines of communication and claimed to you. If you want to talk to me then I'll listen. If you want to be a dick then I'll protect someone else. Up to you. Original Message From Nisani201: Even if you are a medic, I don't need you. There's probably more than one. Original Message From DropBear: Rofl. I guess I'll go protect someone else then. Original Message From Nisani201: Yes the claim is legit. I'm a Banling. I don't want to work with scum. Original Message From DropBear:
Is it legit?
Look me in the eyes and tell me you are telling the truth.
You are voting for me despite the fact that we have had zero interaction. Why?
If you want me to work with you then you gotta be transparent. During that time, I stated in the thread that DropBear would be checked instead of JeeJee. I then sent a PM to Curu with this message: DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying. I received no reply to the message, and DropBear was killed tonight. So this means that Curu told his scum buddies that DropBear was healing me, and then he died. ,,,and then there's Jackal. Not sure where he came from, but I did get this PM from DropBear (subject was "If i die"): Original Message From DropBear: Jackal is scum. Assuming you aren't as well ![[image loading]](http://fringefamily.typepad.com/.a/6a0105364a8fba970c015433421af2970c-800wi) I find it curious that JeeJee died and You were up to check him.
That's incorrect. I checked DropBear.
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On August 18 2011 03:11 Jackal58 wrote:
Chaos/Curu has not posted enough for me to call either way. Drop Bear never claimed to me in PM land. We did discuss the efficacy of a double lynch.
Then why would DropBear tell me that you are scum if he dies?
The fact that you're lying about any kind of PM contact makes me want to kill you.
##Vote: Jackal58
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