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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 14:09 GMT
#595
This is from a PM I sent:

I'm 99% sure he's scum. Careful though, he's acting really strange and trying to draw attention to himself. I think he has a Short Fuse or Rabid Fanboy trait.

Oh how accurate my read was.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 15:21 GMT
#600
@Jackal

On August 17 2011 09:35 Jackal58 wrote:
Alright Nisani. My vote is off of you. I've watched you defend yourself from a lynch as scum and as a townie. Townie wins in this comparison.
So Nisani who would you like to see lynched and why?

Oh and hi Curu. Didn't I just see you in another game?


This was your post when Nisani first claimed DT, why the sudden surety about him now?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 20:32 GMT
#623
Nisani who did you check?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 20:34 GMT
#626
You still think I am retarded scum?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 20:38 GMT
#629
That's a nice contradiction from yesterday. I didn't think you could be scum because I was convinced Jackal, GreyMisT, and Forumite were scum together, but maybe what Jackal was saying actually has some merit.

Can you explain why you're still alive if you're a claimed DT with the Medic dead?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 20:48 GMT
#633
On August 20 2011 05:41 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 05:38 Curu wrote:
That's a nice contradiction from yesterday. I didn't think you could be scum because I was convinced Jackal, GreyMisT, and Forumite were scum together, but maybe what Jackal was saying actually has some merit.

Can you explain why you're still alive if you're a claimed DT with the Medic dead?

I told you about DropBear. DropBear died, and Jackal didn't kill him.


So why are you alive as a DT?

I can't explain why Mafia would want to hit DropBear any more than you can explain why Mafia wouldn't want to hit you. If you're going to be contributing nothing else except non-evidence like that you need to shape up.

From what it looks like you devised a "clever trap" then used that as an excuse to throw your vote and contribute nothing else.

I'll repeat myself again: I'm not an idiot and if I were Mafia I certainly wouldn't kill DropBear until you were dead.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 20:48 GMT
#634
On August 20 2011 05:44 Forumite wrote:
I´m beginning to understand why Nisani201 is still alive, his ability is absolutely useless.


Where the hell does this conclusion come from?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 20:58 GMT
#636
Actually you know what, I think DropBear told Nisani he was a Doc then told other people that if he died Nisani had to be looked at. Nisani wanted to kill the Doc anyways so he told me about it so he could blame me when DropBear actually died.

I don't buy that you told me simply because you trusted me for one post I made in the thread. As I said before, telling me who the Doc was made no sense at all unless you were trying to trap me. But you've insisted that you weren't trying to trap me and your insistence on pushing in a second mislynch while ignoring everything else is pretty fishy.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#638
So if you can't explain why Mafia KP went where it did, why the hell do you expect me to be able to?

Think to yourself if someone told you who the Doc was, the first reaction as Mafia should be kill that person THEN kill the Doc.

On August 18 2011 03:48 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 03:44 Curu wrote:
I can't when it's from my sent folder.

Original Message From Nisani201:
DropBear is supposedly healing me tonight. So if I die, he was lying.


This is the PM Nisani sent me. I had done nothing at that point to warrant anyone claiming any power roles to me (this was before GreyMist flipped). I am not stupid enough not to realize this was obviously fishing to see if I was scum and would hit DropBear.

Analyze my posts if you think I'm scum, but don't insult me with the assumption that I'm a herpderp retard and would hit someone when it was clear Nisani was fishing it from me.

That wasn't meant to be fishing, and I don't think that you're scum. Jackal is the one whom I think is scum. I sent it to you because I thought you were trustworthy enough (based on this) to take down DropBear if I died (remember that at this point I didn't 100% trust DropBear).


This is such a ridiculous reason to "trust" someone and tell them who the Doc is. I was sure you were trying to trap me but apparently you weren't. I didn't push this issue yesterday because I was pretty sure Jackal was scum from his reaction but he was legit. Are you just trying to shift the blame to me?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 22:31 GMT
#644
Cool story TAA, what do you think about Nisani?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 20 2011 15:47 GMT
#649
Why the hell is this thread yellow.

Hiro, not that I need convincing, but you promised so come deliver.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 20 2011 18:03 GMT
#652
Heh, can you give a good reason besides a stupid trap that I saw coming? Your only arguments have been "nah you're scum" when I've explained the situation to you.

But you won't flip Town.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 20 2011 20:42 GMT
#663
On August 21 2011 03:46 hiro protagonist wrote:
Ok, now that I am awake and functional, I am not so sure about Nisani being scum. Alot of my scumdar relies on how fellow sum interact with each other. Initially, I thought that Curu was 100% town based on the fact that it would be utterly stupid to start a wagon on your teammate day 1. But if there is multiple scum teams, which I think there is, then Curu might not have known he was lynching scum

I say there is a 80% chance that one of Curu/Nisani are scum. The real Greek tragedy would be if they are both town, witch might be possible :/

so lets back up a bit, cuz I want some questions answered.

Curu, Why where you so sure that Jackal was scum?

also, during day 1 there was a group of people talking about tying the lynch with a lurker. heres my PMs with Jackal:

Show nested quote +
He and ON both give me the willies.

Original Message From hiro protagonist:
I was approached by TAA. My thought is that Dropbear could have claimed to anyone in that list. I have suspisions about TAA. whats your thoughts on him?

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Jackal58:
Sknowman. Varpulis, Dropbear, The AwesomeAll and of course Kurumi. It was Kurumi's idea. He approached me with it first.

Original Message From hiro protagonist:
Just a question, you had mentioned that Dropbear had talked to you about tieing the vote up. Did you talk to anyone else about that?


when I asked Curu about this, he said he was not approached.

Show nested quote +
Nope, nobody that wanted to push lurkers.

Jackal is 99% scum but he's acting like a lightning rod. I think he has a Short Fuse or Rabid Fanboy trait.

Original Message From hiro protagonist:
so, who do you think would be the best lynch tonight? Also where you contacted by anyone about trying to tie the lynch with a lurker? thanks


does anyone else notice that alot of people in that list from Jackal are dead? Someone in there is killing PM buddys to cover there tracks. It is also possible that DropBear claimed to someone in that group. and out of everyone in there, I am most suspicious of TheAwesomeAll

long story short, I cant make up my mind about Curu or Nisani yet. I think TAA is scum.

##Vote: TheAwesomeAll


Because the first sign of a guilty conscience is to attack your attacker. I could come up with scenarios why I was not guilty because I know I didn't shoot DropBear so there had to be an alternate answer.

My mistake in thinking Jackal scum was assuming Nisani is Town because a day 1 DT claim and PMing someone with 1 post the name of the Medic is just watttttt scum play. It didn't occur to me that Nisani could be trying to just push the blame of the Medic's death on me though.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 21 2011 01:07 GMT
#665
If you discuss anything relevant in IRC put it in the godamn thread this is a ghost town.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 21 2011 16:59 GMT
#689
Sigh. Well good job Mafia, you're going to get 3 mislynches out of your hit.

I told Nisani over and over how stupid it was for me to hit DB but his refusal to listen struck me as a scum trait desperate to push an agenda.

Forumite is scum, I'll explain as I write it up.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 22 2011 15:31 GMT
#702
Alright boys and girls, Forumite:

On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:
On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:
On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote:
Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it.

See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot.
Player X= Nisani
Player Y = GreYMisT
Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir)
We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead...


So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts.
Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one.

You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep!
If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARES

Discussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult!

In other news, water is wet.

For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet?
##vote:forumite
I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it.

As for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush.


First off, already saying he won't even think about being in IRC, setting up a thing he can point at later if people accuse him for being scummy for it. As he says in his own post, he has done nothing but discuss mechanics and tactics, he's afraid to lay down a vote of his own so he won't be suspicious if he leads a mislynch.

His style is not FoS:
On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:
On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:
On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:
On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:
On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:
On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote:
Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it.

See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot.
Player X= Nisani
Player Y = GreYMisT
Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir)
We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead...


So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts.
Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one.

You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep!
If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARES

Discussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult!

In other news, water is wet.

For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet?
##vote:forumite
I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it.
yeah, i'm quite aware

As for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush.
you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position?


see red.
What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting.

My style isn´t to do random FoS like you seem to prefer. Just because I´m posting about multilynching instead of if A or B is slightly more scummy doesn´t mean I´m not contributing. If there´s not that much to go on this early in the game, then I wait until there is more to go on. Mafia isn´t won during the first day, it takes time to analyse posts and patterns to find scum.


But here's a FoS

On August 17 2011 07:57 Forumite wrote:
I´m putting out a FoS on JeeJee.
No posts N0, nothing concrete since then. Spamming Irc under another name and being a general troll. While the sum of his irc-posts are very large, most posts are less than 5 words, they are comments, not analysis, which is what we need in this game.
FoS JeeJee

As there is no chance of THAT lynch going through, I´m voting for Nisani.
He did a scumslip, which might not be that damning, but his defence doesn´t quite add up. It´s partly because of that, and because of basic survival instinct.
##Vote: Nisani201


This post came right when the GreyMisT wagon was picking up heat:

On August 17 2011 18:22 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 10:41 Navillus wrote:
I'm voting forumite until he comes out and gives us a more recent opinion than that jump on the nisani wagon and FoS of jeejee.

##Vote: Forumite
I did a FoS because it had to be done, but I´m not wasting my vote if I don´t think JeeJee is going to get lynched.

----

About Nisanis201's rolecheck, I can confirm it, his check result is correct. It doesn´t make him a confirmed Blue, but it gives us enough reason to not lynch him right now.

We don´t want to lynch a possible Nisani201, the next candidates are Slam500 and Greymist. Between those, Greymist at least posts in the thread, from looking at the thread and cursory glance at the Irc-chat, Slam500 dropped out of the game a day ago. I´m not sure if I´m here for the deadline, so my vote goes out now.

##Unvote Nisani201
##Vote: Slam500


He went from Nisani to Slam because Slam was the only one with a chance of getting lynched that wasn't GreyMisT.

On August 18 2011 07:49 Forumite wrote:
I´ll think I´ll try a general postcount before we get to p51, there are several lurkers in the game, and I trust my numbers and analysis more than my scumsense.


Scum excuse for not giving an opinion and scum excuse for posting useless stuff while appearing to be contributing.

I didn't think he was scum because I was sure Jackal was and Forumite voted for Jackal very easily, but he's scum.

##Vote Forumite
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#710
Not using IRC is not scummy, declaring early that you are not going to be on there at all with no valid reasons given is.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 22 2011 20:55 GMT
#712
I think you're scum.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 22 2011 21:28 GMT
#714
hiro protagonist is scum, you're right. So you're on the black scum team and hiro is one the red one, right?

Hey do us a favour and use your night kill on hiro for me. I'm betting hiro was the one who killed DropBear.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 02:15 GMT
#720
On August 23 2011 08:07 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 06:28 Curu wrote:
hiro protagonist is scum, you're right. So you're on the black scum team and hiro is one the red one, right?

Hey do us a favour and use your night kill on hiro for me. I'm betting hiro was the one who killed DropBear.
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 06:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
ahahahaha... this game...

The silent treatment? Not even calling it out as an OMGUS? There is such a thing as taking an accusation too cool.

##Vote: Curu


Scum votes don't phase me.

I don't credit scum with my time. Die quietly.
wat
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