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On August 15 2011 07:52 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 06:30 aidnai wrote:No, it's that all of his posts are like this On August 13 2011 23:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
I also don't like Kurumi's spastic posting, but from what I understand that's just Kurumi. Do you think if we just ignore him he'll go away?
Looks like we're in for a pretty uneventful d1. Until more people post, there isn't much to say. Read his posts and tell me what you think. He's just putting totally surface level thoughts out there with zero follow through. I'm 100% convinced kav has a wincon or a secondary objective that he is pursuing. I can agree with that, but also, this succession of three posts looks really weird to me as well: Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon So, VE thinks that Kav is an "obviously anti-town" player, and "certainly not town", enough that he wants to lynch him dead. Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 15 2011 04:18 Node wrote:First, hai guys. Busy weekend, family's in town, yadda yadda yadda. Second, what. The. Fuck. This is beyond bad. There's a reason a lot of people aren't contributing: it's almost impossible to contribute to this mess without making it worse. I propose that everyone simply stops posting so damn much, and tries to consolidate what would normally be 3 posts down to 1, so that there's a lot less fluff for everybody to digest whenever they want to figure something out or make a point. I kinda-sorta agree with Pandain's actions so far, and I'm really disappointed that he seems to have been shot. I think Kurumi's been detrimental to the town, and I think he knows this. He's done a huge part in establishing the terrible atmosphere we've currently got, and his actions have made it impossible to just ignore the spam he's throwing around. He's gone straight to the chainsaw defense when people call him out, and claimed one of the few roles that would be worth playing risky to keep around. Pandain just made one crucial mistake: even if he's not roleplaying Bill Murray, kurumi is still kurumi. He's still gonna spew nonsensical BS. Personally, I would've rather he just be shot, as it still covers the VI possibility and saves us from any future thread-destroying shenanigans from that particular source. I also find it hard to buy that the Qatol personality would be mafia-aligned, no matter how much everyone says personality != alignment. And since nobody's counter-claimed him, I'm inclined to believe Pandain is both Qatol and town-aligned. On August 15 2011 02:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay guys, I'm going to go ahead and vote for Kavdragon. After rereading the thread (/wrist) I've determined that he's one of the most obviously anti-town players in the game. This nonsense about 'brown' and his ridiculous fake letters are clearly attempts to confuse town. If I had to guess, I'd say he's probably an alternate faction of some kind - the cult leader hypothesis has merit, but I'm leaning more toward an alternate scum faction. I'm not sure. But he's almost certainly not town, because not only is he ignoring the scum-hunting of others in town, he's also ACTIVELY trying to divert town's attention to his shenanigans.
Kavdragon, I'd like to see you hang today.
##Vote: Kavdragon This is an interesting way to interpret kav's actions. I'm not sure I agree with it, though. You say that he's trying to divert our actions. I ask, what exactly is he trying to divert us from? Considering how aimless this game has been, Kav might be one of the few trying to put us on a worthwhile track. I don't think he's necessarily town, but I'm willing to wait and see in this case. It looks like a very obvious (and very successful) attempt to keep town from ACTUALLY hunting scum. Yes, I believe his nonsense is related to his role...but it's still nonsense guys. Waldon? Mysterious communications with anonymous players? Intrigue? NONE of it is scumhunting. ALL of it is ridiculous. I think he's trying to divert us from real scumhunting by claiming that he's doing so with...whoever. Node, you're smarter than this and I think the fact that you're entertaining this farce is extremely suspicious. He still thinks he's scum, and he's chastising Node for not thinking the same. Note how strong his conviction seems to be about how Kav is anti-town. Then, a few people (including Kav himself) make a couple of posts defending Kav by attacking you. They all say the same thing basically, that you reacted strongly and quickly to Kav's trap. And then: Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, fair points guys...I hadn't really thought of it that way. The spammy feeling of his posts had me prejudging him. Aidnai looked more like a distraction than an actual suspect, and his behavior HAS been suspicious, I'll freely admit.
I'm convinced. I'll also vote aidnai. So, he goes from thinking Kav is complete anti-town, enough that he wants him lynched, to voting for you. He goes from believing a player is scummy from an entire day's worth of information and behaviour, to voting for you because of a couple posts, within the span of 40 minutes. This kind of flip flopping seems really weird to me, and pretty scummy. It just looks like he wants to hop onto the bandwagon that will make him look more like town at the time. =/
Drop it bro, VisceraEyes is Town beyond Town. He's from the Land Before Town, you know like that movie the Land Before Time with dinosaurs and stuff that people love so much, that's VisceraEyes, the loveable dinosaur.
Today's unlynchable Pro Town list:
1. VisceraEyes
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On August 15 2011 07:55 BarBaPoPPa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:46 Barundar wrote:
You made me stay up late for a flip Scamp...
Out of the main candidates, my vote for today will be going on Aidnai. I'm afraid if we don't lynch one of him and his brother, they will keep up tunneling tomorrow as well, and of the two, Kavdragon has had a higher amount of activity and was the first to suggest a 1 for 1 trade, making him the most likely townie. Secondly, I think Kavdragon has an out of thread (town circle) reason to vote for Aidnai.
#Vote Aidnai How do you know that?
fishball start using your own account k?
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btw i just got told that i have new powers
thanks for banning me pandain
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derp.
I'm going to vote aidnai since no one is getting on the scamp wagon. Aidnai is a good lynch anyway.
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Youngminii, Misder, Mr. Wiggles, Chezinu, bumatlarge, ~OpZ~, Node, DoctorHelvetica, Foolishness, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Scamp have not voted and are in danger of being modkilled.
Hi guys.
Vote Aidnai!
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On August 15 2011 07:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote:
Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers.
Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate.
Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town:
Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm,
AND
Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes.
Let it be resolved:
Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town.
Jackal
Fishball
Curu
Palmar
Syllo
LSB
Kenpachi
BloodyC0bbler
Meapak
These people need to put there votes on one of us two. And what happens if you're wrong about Aidnai? Are you going to push for your own lynch?
I won't be. Obviously it would be againts my win condition for me to push for my own lynch. I am 100% sure about him.
On August 15 2011 07:37 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote:
Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers.
Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate.
Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town:
Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm,
AND
Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes.
Let it be resolved:
Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town.
Jackal
Fishball
Curu
Palmar
Syllo
LSB
Kenpachi
BloodyC0bbler
Meapak
These people need to put there votes on one of us two. For those of us who have read two posts in the entire thread (including this one) care to elaborate on why one of you is confirmed somethingsomething?
On August 15 2011 06:48 Palmar wrote:So I'd like to present you with three options for a lynch today. This should be the focus of discussion until the lynch actually happens. [list] [*] Aidnai - His vote is based on actively lurking and being overly defensive when accused. Here is a short summary from Sandroba: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10856660 . In addition, Kavdragon breadcrumbed an information role (his sources) and says he's ready to 1-1 trade himself with Aidnai.[*] Kurumi - His vote is based on his constant trolling in the thread, it seems like he is not even attempting to get around the post restriction to contribute. More damning is the things I pointed out in this analysis: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10841897[*] Scamp - he's using the same shitty logic Pandain used for shooting a day vigilante shot. He popped into the thread, wrote some random ##Kill thing and the disappeared again after calling us bad. Pandain is "masoned" with Mig, although they need to explain how the lovers role works this game. If Pandain flips town then Scamp should absolutely be the one hanging.
On August 15 2011 07:38 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote:
Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers.
Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate.
Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town:
Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm,
AND
Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes.
Let it be resolved:
Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town.
Jackal
Fishball
Curu
Palmar
Syllo
LSB
Kenpachi
BloodyC0bbler
Meapak
These people need to put there votes on one of us two. I can't. Somebody kill Kurumi and I'd be happy to.
If what you say is true, that sucks. But w/e.
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Except for bumatlarge and Scamp, you two feel free to get modkilled.
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On August 15 2011 08:22 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 07:37 Palmar wrote:On August 15 2011 07:35 Kavdragon wrote:
Hmm. This seems to be going the right way for the town, but there are so many straglers.
Yes, we need to make people accountable for voting someone who is clearly not a lynch candidate.
Alright then, let's lay out the facts for the town:
Whereas, I am offering a 1-1 trade, Aidnai has confirmed this. 1-1's are a good trade, and we have no better leads atm,
AND
Whereas, Not lynching someone today is a BAD thing for town, and we need a majority of votes.
Let it be resolved:
Everyone needs to vote for Aidnai or Kavdragon. Anyone not voting for one of us is doing something anti-town.
Jackal
Fishball
Curu
Palmar
Syllo
LSB
Kenpachi
BloodyC0bbler
Meapak
These people need to put there votes on one of us two.And what happens if you're wrong about Aidnai? Are you going to push for your own lynch? I won't be. Obviously it would be againts my win condition for me to push for my own lynch. I am 100% sure about him.
I'm just going to assume you're claiming an information role.
Go people, vote for aidnai!
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In Incog's last vote count he counted DrH. Mistake or does DrH have some ninja voting role?
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Or someone has a role where they can control 1 person's vote.
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On August 15 2011 06:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:This game makes me angry. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=117978Voting VE for terrible post history, plus I read the last couple of pages and I still don't understand why aidnai is scum. LSB BloodyC0bbler Youngminii Barundar Misder Visceraeyes Chezinu Bumatlarge ~opz~ Node Fishball DrH RoL Most if not all of the scum team is in this bunch of players. They're either there because I have active red reads on them or because they're so inactive I have no read on them. VE today then bum, YM, or LSB tomorrow. Could Pandain, Flamewheel, Mr. Wiggles, Kitaman, syllogism, and scamp please post opinions on the recent goings on? I'm still trying to make up my mind on you guys and some more content would be helpful. If there are scum outside of the earlier list they're in this one. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/g9xl5.jpg) Just roll with me town, I kill scum.
Well, I just posted a thing about VE, and actually
##Vote: VisceraEyes
I personally don't like the Aidnai lynch very much right now. He made some defensive posts, but I'm not actually sure if they were necessarily scummy. It seems more like he just wants to fight with Kav for some reason.
At this point, I'd much rather vote for VE, who:
-Made constant, shallow observations about the game
-Voted for Kav and was hellbent on lynching him, until
-The aidnai wagon started picking up speed and he easily hopped onto that, just dropping his previous convictions about Kav
This looks really scummy to me, and a lot like a mafia trying to find the path of least resistance through day 1 by moving along with whatever the most popular bandwagon is at the time.
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I don't think scum would get a mason role.
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On August 15 2011 08:47 Jackal58 wrote:
I don't think scum would get a mason role.
Why? You got mason as scum recently in a game. derp
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those lynch rules are completely absurd
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On August 15 2011 08:47 Jackal58 wrote:
I don't think scum would get a mason role.
Didn't you just have a mason role as scum in ptp2? Why couldn't scum be mason's?
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Wiggles is public enemy #1, nobody is as unlynchable as VisceraEyes, lynch VE and Town loses, get out here. Let me destroy your arguments with perfect reasoning and logic:
[qupte]I personally don't like the Aidnai lynch very much right now. He made some defensive posts, but I'm not actually sure if they were necessarily scummy. It seems more like he just wants to fight with Kav for some reason. [/quote]
Joke, Aidnai is scum.
At this point, I'd much rather vote for VE, who:
-Made constant, shallow observations about the game
VE is not shallow, he has been with his life partner for 30 long years through thick and thin despite the five million smoking hot babes that throw themselves at him daily begging for his attention.
-Voted for Kav and was hellbent on lynching him, until
-The aidnai wagon started picking up speed and he easily hopped onto that, just dropping his previous convictions about Kav
Because Aidnai is obviously scum, VE did the smart thing and led the charge against Aidnai.
This looks really scummy to me, and a lot like a mafia trying to find the path of least resistance through day 1 by moving along with whatever the most popular bandwagon is at the time.
NOBODY CARES
Destroyed, get your vote off VE, next.
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On August 15 2011 08:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 06:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:This game makes me angry. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=117978Voting VE for terrible post history, plus I read the last couple of pages and I still don't understand why aidnai is scum. LSB BloodyC0bbler Youngminii Barundar Misder Visceraeyes Chezinu Bumatlarge ~opz~ Node Fishball DrH RoL Most if not all of the scum team is in this bunch of players. They're either there because I have active red reads on them or because they're so inactive I have no read on them. VE today then bum, YM, or LSB tomorrow. Could Pandain, Flamewheel, Mr. Wiggles, Kitaman, syllogism, and scamp please post opinions on the recent goings on? I'm still trying to make up my mind on you guys and some more content would be helpful. If there are scum outside of the earlier list they're in this one. Just roll with me town, I kill scum. Well, I just posted a thing about VE, and actually ##Vote: VisceraEyesI personally don't like the Aidnai lynch very much right now. He made some defensive posts, but I'm not actually sure if they were necessarily scummy. It seems more like he just wants to fight with Kav for some reason. At this point, I'd much rather vote for VE, who: -Made constant, shallow observations about the game -Voted for Kav and was hellbent on lynching him, until -The aidnai wagon started picking up speed and he easily hopped onto that, just dropping his previous convictions about Kav This looks really scummy to me, and a lot like a mafia trying to find the path of least resistance through day 1 by moving along with whatever the most popular bandwagon is at the time.
VE is not going to be lynched in the last few hours. It's just not going to happen. I agree he looks scummy, but one thing at a time. Voting him now is hurting the town. Stop it, I've already explained why you should be voting for Aidnai.
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BC since you are here what are your thoughts on aidnai/kav?
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On August 15 2011 08:50 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 08:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 15 2011 06:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:This game makes me angry. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=117978Voting VE for terrible post history, plus I read the last couple of pages and I still don't understand why aidnai is scum. LSB BloodyC0bbler Youngminii Barundar Misder Visceraeyes Chezinu Bumatlarge ~opz~ Node Fishball DrH RoL Most if not all of the scum team is in this bunch of players. They're either there because I have active red reads on them or because they're so inactive I have no read on them. VE today then bum, YM, or LSB tomorrow. Could Pandain, Flamewheel, Mr. Wiggles, Kitaman, syllogism, and scamp please post opinions on the recent goings on? I'm still trying to make up my mind on you guys and some more content would be helpful. If there are scum outside of the earlier list they're in this one. Just roll with me town, I kill scum. Well, I just posted a thing about VE, and actually ##Vote: VisceraEyesI personally don't like the Aidnai lynch very much right now. He made some defensive posts, but I'm not actually sure if they were necessarily scummy. It seems more like he just wants to fight with Kav for some reason. At this point, I'd much rather vote for VE, who: -Made constant, shallow observations about the game -Voted for Kav and was hellbent on lynching him, until -The aidnai wagon started picking up speed and he easily hopped onto that, just dropping his previous convictions about Kav This looks really scummy to me, and a lot like a mafia trying to find the path of least resistance through day 1 by moving along with whatever the most popular bandwagon is at the time. VE is not going to be lynched in the last few hours. It's just not going to happen. I agree he looks scummy, but one thing at a time. Voting him now is hurting the town. Stop it, I've already explained why you should be voting for Aidnai.
VE is not scummy, he is the most Town player in this thread.
Please everyone for the sake of my sanity I beg you to stop trying to paint Town hero VE as scum at least for today, lay off him, focus your attention elsewhere.
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On August 15 2011 08:50 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2011 08:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On August 15 2011 06:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:This game makes me angry. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=117978Voting VE for terrible post history, plus I read the last couple of pages and I still don't understand why aidnai is scum. LSB BloodyC0bbler Youngminii Barundar Misder Visceraeyes Chezinu Bumatlarge ~opz~ Node Fishball DrH RoL Most if not all of the scum team is in this bunch of players. They're either there because I have active red reads on them or because they're so inactive I have no read on them. VE today then bum, YM, or LSB tomorrow. Could Pandain, Flamewheel, Mr. Wiggles, Kitaman, syllogism, and scamp please post opinions on the recent goings on? I'm still trying to make up my mind on you guys and some more content would be helpful. If there are scum outside of the earlier list they're in this one. Just roll with me town, I kill scum. Well, I just posted a thing about VE, and actually ##Vote: VisceraEyesI personally don't like the Aidnai lynch very much right now. He made some defensive posts, but I'm not actually sure if they were necessarily scummy. It seems more like he just wants to fight with Kav for some reason. At this point, I'd much rather vote for VE, who: -Made constant, shallow observations about the game -Voted for Kav and was hellbent on lynching him, until -The aidnai wagon started picking up speed and he easily hopped onto that, just dropping his previous convictions about Kav This looks really scummy to me, and a lot like a mafia trying to find the path of least resistance through day 1 by moving along with whatever the most popular bandwagon is at the time. VE is not going to be lynched in the last few hours. It's just not going to happen. I agree he looks scummy, but one thing at a time. Voting him now is hurting the town. Stop it, I've already explained why you should be voting for Aidnai.
isn't fratricide normally frowned upon?
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