On August 17 2011 04:50 Mig wrote: I am no rocket scientist but Bum claiming he nuked kav because of a posting restriction seems like complete bs. Can anyone think up a logical posting restriction that would force him to kill kav? He didn't fire day1, it wasn't because kav has claimed his personality (plenty of other people have done that). Bum now that you have been banned can you say specifically why you shot kav.
Because he was chezinu and I am incognito.
On May 20 2011 02:28 Incognito wrote: See? Something turned up. Given how the last few pages turned out I'm pretty confident the recent posters are town. I wouldve expected maybe 1 player on the Kavdragon lynch to actually be mafia, but I guess there's two. At this point, my guess is on Chezinu and Caller.
Feel free to lynch me. But I seriously doubt you'll be able to, once I do the exact opposite of what the mafia would want to do.
##Nuke Chezinu
Everyone should agree that getting rid of Chezinu is a pro-town move. Especially now that there is a vote check on the Kavdragon lynch. Now seriously, what mafia would shoot into a vote list that has 2/6 red on it? Unless of course I am conspiring with GMarshal to screw over the town, this doesn't make any sense. But then again, conspiring with GMarshal doesn't make too much sense either if I'm announcing that option. Furthermore, it makes no sense for mafia to take America. Especially after Radfield proclaimed it an anti-town role. But if you think about it, its the most transparent role in the game. There's no way for me to hide from a misuse of the role, and its not like I can use it to kill blatant townspeople without significant backlash. Frankly put, America is a ridiculous option for mafia. There are way better KP roles for them to use. So feel free to pile your votes on me now. Nobody else type the nuke command. When Ver confirms that a nuke has been launched, you can all take your votes off me, ok?
I'll be back later with some more thoughts.
- Hide Spoiler - Funny thing I saw a couple days ago in the news: "IMF chief's arrest stirs up anti-Americanism in France" Seems fitting, huh Radfield?
It didn't force me to do anything, I am a free man! Didn't you watch the video? I just couldn't tell you about it, and I thought kav was talking out of his ass with the aidnai thing. It isn't a 1 for 1 trade unless you follow through with it! Plus he was chezinu so it would have made it awesome if I was right.
As much as I love you pandain, you have fallen into my trap! The only reason anyone would defend me is because they know I'm not scum. A lynch for pandain is a lynch for a better tomorrow. Honestly, I didn't think I could act scummier. People have been calling me scum way before I ever nuked anyone. You are right on so many levels, but the order of your thoughts is too mangled for a smart townie.
Hear me out people, when I pop town you need to kill that dude! Better yet, lynch him instead. He should have been the one I nuked, but I messed up. Read that post again, in the position that I am town.
On August 17 2011 05:19 Pandain wrote: We should not kill Bumatlarge
Has he been retarded? Yes
But just because someone is being dumb is not a reason to lynch him. For example, see almost every game I play. I always end up doing something dumb, and get lynched. But I always have the truest intentions.
The point is, bumatlarge hasn't been scummy, he's just been shady. And that's an important distinction. When seeing someone who's doing "off" things, we need to look at if they have a mafia INTENTION when they do it.
Would a mafia be so reckless and careless when defending himself? Not unless he has already given up, in which case we would've at least seen a defense from him intentionally.
Would a mafia have been so reckless as to FRICKIN NUKE KAVDRAGON? I mean seriously, that was just retarded.
I feel Bumatlarge is town just for the pure fact he hasn't acted mafiaesque. Yes he's acted shady, but remember the difference. He hasn't been extremely active to appear pro town. He hasn't been inactive either.
Furthormore, the fact that there has been no resistance to bumatlarge being lynched has me worried. I feel like mafia are just letting town mislynch again and again, while usually when a mafia gets lynched they always at least offer up a counter lynch.
I'm not sure exactly who to lynch, but I'm sure there are better options then bumatlarge. I'll analyze and report my findings soon.
Also, his panic ban was in full throttle when I said I had another nuke. I do not have another nuke. Try to read through pandain's posts you will see it for yourself
On August 17 2011 05:19 Pandain wrote: We should not kill Bumatlarge
Has he been retarded? Yes
But just because someone is being dumb is not a reason to lynch him. For example, see almost every game I play. I always end up doing something dumb, and get lynched. But I always have the truest intentions.
The point is, bumatlarge hasn't been scummy, he's just been shady. And that's an important distinction. When seeing someone who's doing "off" things, we need to look at if they have a mafia INTENTION when they do it.
Would a mafia be so reckless and careless when defending himself? Not unless he has already given up, in which case we would've at least seen a defense from him intentionally.
Would a mafia have been so reckless as to FRICKIN NUKE KAVDRAGON? I mean seriously, that was just retarded.
I feel Bumatlarge is town just for the pure fact he hasn't acted mafiaesque. Yes he's acted shady, but remember the difference. He hasn't been extremely active to appear pro town. He hasn't been inactive either.
Furthormore, the fact that there has been no resistance to bumatlarge being lynched has me worried. I feel like mafia are just letting town mislynch again and again, while usually when a mafia gets lynched they always at least offer up a counter lynch.
I'm not sure exactly who to lynch, but I'm sure there are better options then bumatlarge. I'll analyze and report my findings soon.
wait if u think hes town why neutralize his role?
He said the same shit about Kurumi. I think he's town but I'm going to fuck him over anyways. I think Bum is town but I'm gonna fuck him over too. A lot of folks think Bum is scum and a fair few thought Kurumi might have been as well. But Pandain knows who is scum and who isn't. Why would a townie fuck over a fellow townie? And I'm not talking about me having to post Kill BM all day long. I'm talking about actively using a role to remove the abilities of a person you think is town. Pandain is scum. Vote for him. Lynch him now.
On August 17 2011 11:32 LSB wrote: So why is Pandain getting lynched? I really don't get this
Because he called both myself and kurumi town, but blocked both of us with his ban powers. He called me town, at a point where I woould barely call myself town.
No Im not a VI, but if people are really that dead set on me and the pandain lynch isnt picking up, then its better off that I'm dealt with now. I just messed some stuff up.
Well I don't think no-lynching is a good thing. I'm not sure about an LSB lynch but I'm all for a pandain lynch still. I'll switch back to myself if I need to in the end.
I think the reason RoL prefers a no-lynch is because he thinks both lynches are terrible for town. I don't think it's anti-town to think this way. It's not useful to complain and do nothing with it, but mafia would just jump on either lynch and then go with that.
On August 18 2011 06:46 Mig wrote: I mean consider for a minute mafia has 3 kp 7 players so we have to kill 3 mafia just to lower their kp to 2.Combined with no roles being revealed at death hurts the town a ton. Dt's cant breadcrumb etc. And I know of several townie's roles which are practically worthless. So would there be any need for ver/incog to give the scum team anymore kp? I will admit tho if they did give the mafia more kp a day vig makes sense and then bum's terrible shot on kav is the kind of thing I would expect to see.
Btw has anyone considered someone besides bum killed Kav.
The 2nd post incog shows the nuke launching so obviously it didn't kill kav in the first post. So I would guess there is another day vig out there that shot for kav for some terrible reason.
Oh wait a second... Yeah incog did teall me that the alert for the nuke going off would be 24 hours before the lynch. The first one was early, and not even necessarily a nuke. I think you are right, someone blew kav up before my nuke. Well thats weird.
On August 18 2011 07:02 Mig wrote: How can you possibly know you killed Kav? And who fired the 2nd nuke then and why didn't they have to post ##nuke in the thread? And why would they fire a nuke at him?
Yeah you're right, I jumped to conclusions, assuming my nuke hit early. My nuke isn't supposed to hit until the lynch.
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