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On August 14 2011 04:29 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 02:15 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 00:02 Kurumi wrote:On August 14 2011 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Since Kurumi is intent on spamming the thread with nonsense about Pokemon, I'm with Jackal on policy-lynching Kurumi barring something crazy scummy from someone else.
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Kav wtf? i told you that dt should check me night 1 then together with a doc visiting me jackal58 wants me dead and is godfather What are you trying to say here bud? You trying to say VisceraEyes is wrong? Let me tell you, VisceraEyes is FIVE TIMES the man you are and he is obvtown. So just back off girlfriend, don't be playing with hotties out of your league. Now, down to business. Let's raise some discussion since there's no setup speculation or sandroba big plan going on here. If we were to policy lynch Kenpachi, would we get Kenpachi the player or youngminii the Kenpachi role? Thoughts on Kavdagon (Chezinu) being Cult Leader? And finally, Kurumi back off sister you ain't hot enough for VisceraEyes. So Curu, You have a post restriction of praising how good VisceraEyes is? Also why do You think Kavdragon is a Cult Leader? That's just flavour/fluff he posted (or introduction of some sort) I disagree with policy lynching anybody besides me (I have my reasons), we should lynch the scummiest person.
VisceraEyes is the most awesome person on the planet.
I suspected pre-game Chezinu would be a Cultist role. Just read through his TL Quiz.
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On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not.
Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality.
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On August 14 2011 04:41 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not. Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!!
So Jackal, whose entire goal is to get Kurumi killed, says Kurumi is most likely scum because he's Bill Murray...
You want them to stop arguing, but you want to lynch Kurumi (who is probably Town). Why not Jackal? He's the one that has to be pushing this only lynch Kurumi garbage. It's unlikely for a Townie to have a goal that is to get one specific Mafia lynched.
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Kurumi stop tunneling him. He claims he has to do it to you but you don't have to do it back unless you actually think he is Mafia for more than just accusing you.
Let's not make day 1 you two just tunnel fucking each other uselessly.
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On August 14 2011 05:03 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:02 Curu wrote:
Kurumi stop tunneling him. He claims he has to do it to you but you don't have to do it back unless you actually think he is Mafia for more than just accusing you.
Let's not make day 1 you two just tunnel fucking each other uselessly. I am just pointing out that it makes no sense for anyone to do actions claimed to be done by Jackal. Well, I might as well go afk if You want.
His actions make some sort of sense when you take into consideration he has to see you lynched. If you think he is Mafia fine, I just don't want you two shitting up the thread if you both think each other is Town.
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Well until something else comes up
##Vote Flamewheel
Let's see what he has to say.
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On August 14 2011 05:12 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:08 Curu wrote:
Well until something else comes up
##Vote Flamewheel
Let's see what he has to say. No no, it's Walton we need to go after! We must find Walton. I'm offering a reward for who can find Walton. The person to secure his death will receive the Brown Medallion of Awesome! Why would you jump on someone so easily anyways? Very odd.
Mostly because I thought Town would stop their stupid incessant trolling. Apparently not.
If I had wanted somewhere easy to park my vote Kurumi/Jackal/Kenpachi were much better targets.
On August 14 2011 05:13 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 04:50 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:41 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:36 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:32 deconduo wrote:On August 14 2011 04:28 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 04:24 deconduo wrote:On August 13 2011 22:25 BarBaPoPPa wrote:On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
there is no reason to ignore evidence that comes into play later than 24 hours into the day u know? if your gonna just vote some stupid random person, then that's fucking scummy, but it only takes like 2-3 hours to switch the votes if we find scum later in the day. Never said to ignore candidates after 24 hours, I said if we don't have a decent shortlist getting a lynch will be difficult. I also disagree that its possible to turnaround a lynch in 2-3 hours. Even with evidence that someone is 100% scum, because of different timezones its possible that you won't have enough people online. Couple this with the fact that you're never going to get absolute proof, whats more than likely to happen is people start to switch votes and we end up lynching nobody. Anyone that comes in with 'new' evidence just before the deadline and tries to swing a lynch should be vigged. They should have presented the evidence earlier or shut up. On August 14 2011 02:14 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Yeah, Bum is right. I don't think that names and alignment would be linked directly, as it would break the set-up somewhat through mass name-claims. As well, how would we decide what names are what alignment? I see it as people would be able to just twist it as they see fit, as a lot of players have had good games as town and mafia, or can fit into both alignments. For example, Ace is given as an example role for town in the OP, but a lot of people would probably try to argue that he's mafia as well. It's a very insubstantial way of scum hunting that I think we should try to avoid. Anyone pushing for someone's lynch just based on their name is probably scummy. (Or dumb) Also, deconduo had a good post about the lynch rules: On August 13 2011 19:31 deconduo wrote:
/confirm
Right, we got us here an interesting situation with the majority lynch rules. Unless we have a shortlist of targets by say 24 hours into the day, its going to be pretty fucking difficult to get anyone lynched.
People not voting for one of the top three candidates at the end of the day should considered scummy as fuck, especially if we don't reach a majority. We can't have anyone throwing away a vote cos of tunnelling/stupidity/OMGUS. Each vote is vital. I agree with his sentiment, that it will be vital to consolidate votes as the day goes on. We don't want a situation where the vote is split amongst several people each with only a few votes on them, as then we either waste our lynch, or we're forced to try to switch around votes right before the deadline, giving scum a good chance to manipulate the lynch right before it happens. I think a major factor in this, will be people needing to actually think and read, judging who's scummiest, and dropping "protestation" votes and pressure votes (that are for information) before the deadline is up. ----- Jackal is likely telling the truth. He's been pushing for kurumi to be lynched ever since he claimed BM. Its quite unlike him to fake claim a restriction like that, and seeing as no one has CC'd L I believe him. This doesn't reflect on alignments at all, and in fact I would think its more likely for L to be a mafia personality than Bill Murray. However it does us no good to have Kurumi troll, and if Jackal is forced to tunnel him then we have two people that are just posting trash. Lynching Kurumi solves this problem quite nicely. He should be one of the people on our lynch shortlist for sure. So you think it's more likely Jackal is Mafia and Kurumi is Town but you want Kurumi lynched instead? Hi there scum logic. Read the post properly before commenting kthx. People are saying that Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. I said that L is more likely to be scum if personalities reflected alignment, which I believe they do not. Please show me a single person that said Kurumi is scum because BM is a scummy personality. On August 14 2011 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
Kurumi/Bill Murray must die. He is 3rd party or scum. There is absolutely no way we can allow a troll playing a troll remain in the game. Lynch him now!!!!! So Jackal, whose entire goal is to get Kurumi killed, says Kurumi is most likely scum because he's Bill Murray... You want them to stop arguing, but you want to lynch Kurumi (who is probably Town). Why not Jackal? He's the one that has to be pushing this only lynch Kurumi garbage. It's unlikely for a Townie to have a goal that is to get one specific Mafia lynched. You asked for an example. I gave you an example. You then proceed to complain that I gave you an example. Scum are never happy it seems. Lynching Jackal doesn't stop Kurumi trolling, whereas lynching Kurumi solves both problems. Jackal can then go back to playing properly and we have a mostly troll free thread instead of a shitfest. Finally I never said that Kurumi should be the only one under discussion, I said that Kurumi would be a good lynch candidate that should be considered. If you feel Jackal should be lynched instead then go ahead and make a case.
The example you gave me was an utterly useless one coming from an utterly useless source yet somehow you want to use it to back up the thought that the general consensus in thread was that Kurumi Bull Murray was scum.
Nope.
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On August 14 2011 05:21 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:08 Curu wrote:
Well until something else comes up
##Vote Flamewheel
Let's see what he has to say. You are smarter than this. Did you honestly read that "pm" and believe it was "intercepted" and real? How exactly would it have been intercepted, why would it be signed when the supposed recipient used an alias and even the content is ridiculous.
Yes I read that "PM" and decided that neither Town nor scum have any reason to try to fake a PM like that.
I didn't take into consideration some people's MO this game is just to troll.
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So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal?
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On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal? I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum.
I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi.
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On August 14 2011 06:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 05:57 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 05:55 Palmar wrote:On August 14 2011 05:53 Curu wrote:
So if Kurumi is scum what alignment is Jackal? I have no idea. I don't think roles determine alignment, as in, I think the worst possible thing we could do is to mass-claim and lynch whoever claims someone who is famous for being scum. I know that but I can't wrap my head around a Town Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. Or a scum Jackal having to kill a scum Kurumi. two things, according to jackal he just has to push for the lynch, it's not a part of his win condition, so again, I don't think it's something we need to worry about. the weird bit is that jackal is technically enforcing the restriction on himself, Kurumi still argues he's not BM, and there has been presented evidence he might be someone else. Jackal could choose to believe that and stop the bullshit. the fact that he has not done so and instead chooses to hide behind the restriction is kind of... iffy.
Giving someone the role of "tunnel this scum" seems like such a huge disadvantage for the scum team and counter-intuitive though.
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So we have people calling for Day Vigs, stripping people of role, and a DT claim.
All in the first 18 pages.
I don't know what's trolling and what's just bad play anymore.
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On August 14 2011 08:13 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:On August 14 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote:
Oh so apparently Incognito doesn't tell you. Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal townie now. Excuse me mister Qatol, but how do you suposedly know kurumi's aligment? Mah B. I should have said "Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal possible-mafia-possible-townie-but-im-leaning-townie-because-i-dont-think-mafia-would-be-that-utterly-stupid-and-risk-being-gone-from-game I'll remember that next time.
So you thought Kurumi was a Townie but decided it was prudent to take away all his role powers?
Explain this to me.
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On August 14 2011 08:21 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:18 Curu wrote:On August 14 2011 08:13 Pandain wrote:On August 14 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:On August 14 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote:
Oh so apparently Incognito doesn't tell you. Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal townie now. Excuse me mister Qatol, but how do you suposedly know kurumi's aligment? Mah B. I should have said "Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal possible-mafia-possible-townie-but-im-leaning-townie-because-i-dont-think-mafia-would-be-that-utterly-stupid-and-risk-being-gone-from-game I'll remember that next time. So you thought Kurumi was a Townie but decided it was prudent to take away all his role powers? Explain this to me. I took away the powers he had, including the fact he was BM. Unfortunately he has still decided to spam. As I had previously said, it was an anti spam maneuver, not a anti mafia. I uphold the rules for ALL sides
So you neutered someone who you believed to be a Town blue for no other reason than spam.
Yeah you're not Town.
##Vote Pandain
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On August 14 2011 08:27 Pandain wrote:
If your not going to take a stand sometime, then no one will stop spamming.
I threatened to remove a player from the game. That was not the ability, I can only get rid of their powers. But the fact that Kurumi still insisted on spamming indicated to me that he was not a valuable town, or even mafia.
He was a village idiot. And, as everyone guessed, Bill murray.
Would you not try to stop the spam? And who knew that he would be inventor he sure didn't act like it.
Spam is not a reason to take away someone you think is Town's abilities. I want the spam to stop yes, I asked people to stop spamming and posting useless stuff. I would not go and take away someone that I think is Town's role because he is spamming.
You didn't even kill him to take him out of the game. Your actions have done nothing but take away a power from someone you think is Town. If you had actually Day Vig'd or something as a policy then it's more understandable but as it is there is no Town fueled motivation for your action.
Your actions did NOTHING except get rid of a Town power. And you know that.
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On August 14 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote:
Oh so apparently Incognito doesn't tell you. Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal townie now.
On August 14 2011 08:13 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 08:09 sandroba wrote:On August 14 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote:
Oh so apparently Incognito doesn't tell you. Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal townie now. Excuse me mister Qatol, but how do you suposedly know kurumi's aligment? Mah B. I should have said "Kurumi has lost his powers, he is just a normal possible-mafia-possible-townie-but-im-leaning-townie-because-i-dont-think-mafia-would-be-that-utterly-stupid-and-risk-being-gone-from-game I'll remember that next time.
Don't backtrack. You thought Kurumi was Town.
@Jackal
We're saying that Pandain thought Kurumi was Town, not that Kurumi is Town. His actions are ridiculously not Town for someone who thought his target was Town.
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On August 14 2011 08:46 Pandain wrote:
Think someone is town = calling someone town.
Hmm.....
Er yes? If I think you're scum or a VI idiot the natural response is to call you that in thread, not call you Town.
Kurumi if you are Town quiet down for a bit and let the grownups talk, thanks.
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EBWOP: That sounded way too harsh. What I meant to say was.
Kurumi if you're Town please stop spamming up the thread with useless posts asking to get killed. And lend some valid discussion.
Thanks.
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