• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:34
CET 10:34
KST 18:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win02025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame The New Patch Killed Mech! Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
LMAO (controversial!!)
Peanutsc
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1593 users

TL Mafia XLIII - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 01:33 GMT
#593
Oh by the way, if JeeJee flips Godfather youngminii is our third scum:

On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:

If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.


Name 1 reason as scum TAA would want to fakeclaim Vig completely unprovoked. Vig is one of the most easily self confirmable roles in a setup where KP is known, only an idiot would fakeclaim that.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#598
18 out of 21 Players are alive.
15 out 17 Town aligned players are left.
3 out of 4 Mafia team are left.
Mafia KP is #/2 rounded up.
Mafia KP now is 2.

Where Mafia KP is down. Durr.

Anything above 2 KP = oh look he was right he's a Vig. Vig is easily self confirmable. TAA fakeclaiming Vig as scum is beyond stupid.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#599
EBWOP: known, not down.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 01:45 GMT
#606
On August 05 2011 10:40 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 10:39 redFF wrote:
On August 05 2011 07:33 redFF wrote:
Here's what i think of taa.
i think taa is just cocky shitty town. he thinks he played well in arkham so now thinks he is BOSSMODE and is trying to do some retarded shit because he thinks he is the greatest mafia player in the world. Town read imo. LaL isn't good when its fairly clear its just some newbie who thinks he is hot shit.

This is what TAA is, not scum.

But TAA isn't a newbie. You are worse than TAA, sorry to say. He is a relative newcomer but based on what I've seen, he's actually a very decent player.

The newbie argument does not apply to TAA.


You yourself agreed TAA is not a stupid new player, name one valid reason he would fakeclaim Vig as scum.


On August 05 2011 10:42 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 10:31 youngminii wrote:
On August 05 2011 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:
To clarify:

TAA and BC spent Day 1 trying to focus fire on JeeJee.
TAA either lied or something went horribly wrong in the night actions.
BC is now trying to focus fire on JeeJee as he was one of the people being looked at yesterday.

Here is what's likely:

If TAA flips red, JeeJee should be green. BC is more likely red than green.
If JeeJee flips green, BC and TAA are both motherfucking red.
If BC flips red, JeeJee should be green. TAA is more likely red than green.

In other words, kill TAA/BC.

If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.


I love that by "trying to focus fire on jeejee day 1" was actually very late into the day. Misconstrued evidence.

You also neglect to mention

If BC is green it is more than likely Jeejee is red and taa is likely green
Or if TAA is green it is more than likely jeejee is red and BC is more than likely green
Or if JeeJee flips red, TAA and BC are more than likely green.


I love that you purposely miss scenarios that are actually relevant to the argument you are trying to make.

Killing JeeJee would almost fully clear or damn two players where as killing myself or TAA doesnt fully reveal the alignment of the other two players.

Very late into the day is still during the day. Stop throwing around words to make my argument appear weaker. It still happened and you guys still tried to protect Varp.

You are absolutely aware that lynching for information comes AFTER lynching for scum. You and TAA are very likely scum in my eyes, why should I go after the information route? You are scum and you are purposely trying to weaken my argument.


TAA is likely just an idiot townie, we had a long dissucssion on it. I highly reccommend you read both IRC logs i posted.

Lucidity is my biggest scumread at the moment:

Primarily because

-Scum didnt try to really divert the wagon to him despite him having some votes in the middle of the day.
-His reactions on IRC while could be being misrepresented say quite alot on the subject.
-Keeps casting doubt on Mig despite his supposed role and all his actions during D1 (Which were quite Pro-town)

I need to go over his posts one more time but it will probably be tommorrow when I have a clearer head, i sometimes find the need to step away from a game for a sec so when i come back i can reevaluate and maybe catch things i didnt find the day before etc.


The Lucidity case is based on JeeJee flipping red IMO, since if he wasn't actually Mafia trying to save Varpulis then it's a null tell.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 02:24 GMT
#609
On August 05 2011 10:59 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
The Lucidity case is based on JeeJee flipping red IMO, since if he wasn't actually Mafia trying to save Varpulis then it's a null tell.

Can we actually stop saying this. Nobody is scum/town because any other person flipped scum/town. All that leads to is wifom.


?

Analyzing interactions and reactions to lynches is one of the best way to unearth Mafia.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 10:19 GMT
#612
On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:
If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.


lol the more I read this the more WTF I go. How could you possibly know what JeeJee's check would return?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 16:23 GMT
#626
On August 05 2011 21:37 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2011 10:37 Curu wrote:
18 out of 21 Players are alive.
15 out 17 Town aligned players are left.
3 out of 4 Mafia team are left.
Mafia KP is #/2 rounded up.
Mafia KP now is 2.

Where Mafia KP is down. Durr.

Anything above 2 KP = oh look he was right he's a Vig. Vig is easily self confirmable. TAA fakeclaiming Vig as scum is beyond stupid.

This is quite obviously wrong. It doesn't prove that he's a Vig at all. It proves that there is A Vig out there. Does it have to be TAA because he claimed? No.

I don't understand why you'd make that post though. Are you trying to push the case that it's a terrible move as scum? So that it looks unlikely that TAA is scum? The logic is too obviously wrong to be a mistake o_o

Do Vets and targets who were med protected get notified when they are hit?

Do players get notified if they are Role Blocked? Even if they are scouts?


LOL are you serious? If he claims a shot that he didn't fire, either the real Vig behind the shot shoots him next or he gets counterclaimed.

Vig is one of the easiest roles to confirm. He breadcrumbs who he's going to kill, that person dies. If there's more than 2 kills the night, the person he breadcrumbed dies, and no one counterclaims him, then he's a real Vig.

Yes my point is TAA fakeclaiming Vig as scum is too stupid to be believed.

I love how your post coming back doesn't even mention JeeJee at all, just tries to cast doubt on Mig, BC, and me. Yet you aren't actually pushing anything either.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 16:32 GMT
#628
On August 05 2011 19:56 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
if jeejee returned red i would be even more interested tbh


If JeeJee returned Godfather or Townie then I would consider youngminii the best lynch for the next cycle. If he was just simple red, it looks a little less bad on YM.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 16:32 GMT
#629
On August 06 2011 01:31 Lucidity wrote:
That's simply not true. He "breadcrumbs" that he's going to kill X. X dies. Mafia killed X -.-


Then there's only 2 KP in the night and he's not confirmed Vig.

Herp.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 16:32 GMT
#630
Mafia can't magically produce a 3rd KP to confirm one of their players as Vig.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 16:57 GMT
#632
They'd have to figure out the breadcrumb then, admittedly easier because TAA stupidly claimed Vig before he had even shot anyone. And if they keep doing it every night then we're basically directing a Mafia KP onto scummy players in return for inability to confirm a Vig. Vig could also say he was shooting someone then shoot someone else and claim the kill after.

I don't see why TAA would freely claim Vig if he was scum when no one pressured or asked him to.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 17:03 GMT
#634
Granted I don't see why he'd do it as Town either besides cocky hero syndrome, but it makes even less sense as Mafia.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 19:55 GMT
#650
By all being Mafia.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 06 2011 02:22 GMT
#680
Don't forget youngminii too .
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 06 2011 02:39 GMT
#683
Green is the super secret 4th race with the impossible win con.

(Palmar)
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 06 2011 03:45 GMT
#693
What

JeeJee has done NOTHING to look like Town.

youngminii himself even said JeeJee is suspicious. Then he's all like yo DT's check JeeJee, you'll get a green result.

Yeah no. Only thing JeeJee has going for him right now is that TAA wasn't RBed when he claimed he was going to shoot him.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 06 2011 21:02 GMT
#713
Huh

That sucks
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 06 2011 21:07 GMT
#716
Huh

That rocks.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 06 2011 21:08 GMT
#717
Also bye youngminii, nice knowing you.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 06 2011 21:25 GMT
#733
youngminii

You hear those footsteps? We comin' for you.

We comin' like thunnnnnnnnnnnnder.
wat
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 26281
Bisu 1401
actioN 676
BeSt 401
Pusan 336
Mini 288
sSak 162
PianO 133
EffOrt 125
ToSsGirL 58
[ Show more ]
Aegong 47
sorry 41
soO 25
Movie 25
yabsab 19
Sharp 17
Sacsri 16
Terrorterran 10
HiyA 9
Bale 4
Sea 0
Dota 2
XcaliburYe158
ODPixel12
League of Legends
JimRising 586
Counter-Strike
oskar22
Other Games
summit1g14775
olofmeister406
Happy203
Mew2King79
Pyrionflax55
NeuroSwarm38
Sick21
Dewaltoss11
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL8300
Other Games
gamesdonequick600
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH159
• LUISG 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV339
League of Legends
• Jankos1421
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
26m
BASILISK vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
OSC
2h 26m
CrankTV Team League
3h 26m
Shopify Rebellion vs Team Falcon
BASILISK vs Team Liquid
Replay Cast
13h 26m
The PondCast
23h 26m
CrankTV Team League
1d 3h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team A[vengers]
3 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
4 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.