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Oh by the way, if JeeJee flips Godfather youngminii is our third scum:
On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:
If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.
Name 1 reason as scum TAA would want to fakeclaim Vig completely unprovoked. Vig is one of the most easily self confirmable roles in a setup where KP is known, only an idiot would fakeclaim that.
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18 out of 21 Players are alive. 15 out 17 Town aligned players are left. 3 out of 4 Mafia team are left. Mafia KP is #/2 rounded up. Mafia KP now is 2.
Where Mafia KP is down. Durr.
Anything above 2 KP = oh look he was right he's a Vig. Vig is easily self confirmable. TAA fakeclaiming Vig as scum is beyond stupid.
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On August 05 2011 10:40 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 10:39 redFF wrote:On August 05 2011 07:33 redFF wrote: Here's what i think of taa. i think taa is just cocky shitty town. he thinks he played well in arkham so now thinks he is BOSSMODE and is trying to do some retarded shit because he thinks he is the greatest mafia player in the world. Town read imo. LaL isn't good when its fairly clear its just some newbie who thinks he is hot shit. This is what TAA is, not scum. But TAA isn't a newbie. You are worse than TAA, sorry to say. He is a relative newcomer but based on what I've seen, he's actually a very decent player. The newbie argument does not apply to TAA.
You yourself agreed TAA is not a stupid new player, name one valid reason he would fakeclaim Vig as scum.
On August 05 2011 10:42 OriginalName wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 10:31 youngminii wrote:On August 05 2011 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote: To clarify:
TAA and BC spent Day 1 trying to focus fire on JeeJee. TAA either lied or something went horribly wrong in the night actions. BC is now trying to focus fire on JeeJee as he was one of the people being looked at yesterday.
Here is what's likely:
If TAA flips red, JeeJee should be green. BC is more likely red than green. If JeeJee flips green, BC and TAA are both motherfucking red. If BC flips red, JeeJee should be green. TAA is more likely red than green.
In other words, kill TAA/BC.
If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC. I love that by "trying to focus fire on jeejee day 1" was actually very late into the day. Misconstrued evidence. You also neglect to mention If BC is green it is more than likely Jeejee is red and taa is likely green Or if TAA is green it is more than likely jeejee is red and BC is more than likely green Or if JeeJee flips red, TAA and BC are more than likely green. I love that you purposely miss scenarios that are actually relevant to the argument you are trying to make. Killing JeeJee would almost fully clear or damn two players where as killing myself or TAA doesnt fully reveal the alignment of the other two players. Very late into the day is still during the day. Stop throwing around words to make my argument appear weaker. It still happened and you guys still tried to protect Varp. You are absolutely aware that lynching for information comes AFTER lynching for scum. You and TAA are very likely scum in my eyes, why should I go after the information route? You are scum and you are purposely trying to weaken my argument. TAA is likely just an idiot townie, we had a long dissucssion on it. I highly reccommend you read both IRC logs i posted. Lucidity is my biggest scumread at the moment: Primarily because -Scum didnt try to really divert the wagon to him despite him having some votes in the middle of the day. -His reactions on IRC while could be being misrepresented say quite alot on the subject. -Keeps casting doubt on Mig despite his supposed role and all his actions during D1 (Which were quite Pro-town) I need to go over his posts one more time but it will probably be tommorrow when I have a clearer head, i sometimes find the need to step away from a game for a sec so when i come back i can reevaluate and maybe catch things i didnt find the day before etc.
The Lucidity case is based on JeeJee flipping red IMO, since if he wasn't actually Mafia trying to save Varpulis then it's a null tell.
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On August 05 2011 10:59 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +The Lucidity case is based on JeeJee flipping red IMO, since if he wasn't actually Mafia trying to save Varpulis then it's a null tell. Can we actually stop saying this. Nobody is scum/town because any other person flipped scum/town. All that leads to is wifom.
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Analyzing interactions and reactions to lynches is one of the best way to unearth Mafia.
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On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote: If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.
lol the more I read this the more WTF I go. How could you possibly know what JeeJee's check would return?
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On August 05 2011 21:37 Lucidity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 10:37 Curu wrote: 18 out of 21 Players are alive. 15 out 17 Town aligned players are left. 3 out of 4 Mafia team are left. Mafia KP is #/2 rounded up. Mafia KP now is 2.
Where Mafia KP is down. Durr.
Anything above 2 KP = oh look he was right he's a Vig. Vig is easily self confirmable. TAA fakeclaiming Vig as scum is beyond stupid. This is quite obviously wrong. It doesn't prove that he's a Vig at all. It proves that there is A Vig out there. Does it have to be TAA because he claimed? No. I don't understand why you'd make that post though. Are you trying to push the case that it's a terrible move as scum? So that it looks unlikely that TAA is scum? The logic is too obviously wrong to be a mistake o_o Do Vets and targets who were med protected get notified when they are hit?
Do players get notified if they are Role Blocked? Even if they are scouts?
LOL are you serious? If he claims a shot that he didn't fire, either the real Vig behind the shot shoots him next or he gets counterclaimed.
Vig is one of the easiest roles to confirm. He breadcrumbs who he's going to kill, that person dies. If there's more than 2 kills the night, the person he breadcrumbed dies, and no one counterclaims him, then he's a real Vig.
Yes my point is TAA fakeclaiming Vig as scum is too stupid to be believed.
I love how your post coming back doesn't even mention JeeJee at all, just tries to cast doubt on Mig, BC, and me. Yet you aren't actually pushing anything either.
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On August 05 2011 19:56 TheAwesomeAll wrote: if jeejee returned red i would be even more interested tbh
If JeeJee returned Godfather or Townie then I would consider youngminii the best lynch for the next cycle. If he was just simple red, it looks a little less bad on YM.
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On August 06 2011 01:31 Lucidity wrote: That's simply not true. He "breadcrumbs" that he's going to kill X. X dies. Mafia killed X -.-
Then there's only 2 KP in the night and he's not confirmed Vig.
Herp.
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Mafia can't magically produce a 3rd KP to confirm one of their players as Vig.
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They'd have to figure out the breadcrumb then, admittedly easier because TAA stupidly claimed Vig before he had even shot anyone. And if they keep doing it every night then we're basically directing a Mafia KP onto scummy players in return for inability to confirm a Vig. Vig could also say he was shooting someone then shoot someone else and claim the kill after.
I don't see why TAA would freely claim Vig if he was scum when no one pressured or asked him to.
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Granted I don't see why he'd do it as Town either besides cocky hero syndrome, but it makes even less sense as Mafia.
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Don't forget youngminii too .
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Green is the super secret 4th race with the impossible win con.
(Palmar)
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What
JeeJee has done NOTHING to look like Town.
youngminii himself even said JeeJee is suspicious. Then he's all like yo DT's check JeeJee, you'll get a green result.
Yeah no. Only thing JeeJee has going for him right now is that TAA wasn't RBed when he claimed he was going to shoot him.
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Also bye youngminii, nice knowing you.
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youngminii
You hear those footsteps? We comin' for you.
We comin' like thunnnnnnnnnnnnder.
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