I completely agree with the votes on JeeJee. Like I said in IRC, he's done absolutely nothing but defend, gives out no information, does no scum hunting, and his only vote on Drazerk has basically been a generic policy lynch of lynch all lurkers. Seems like a good person to lynch today.

Oh, and JeeJee, it's about 21 hours past the current day. Is it time to weigh in yet?

ghrur

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August 05 2011 19:39 GMT

#647

Is that all? Don't wanna talk about it with us over IRC? Don't wanna bring up any other possible accusations? Nice, really nice.

ghrur

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August 06 2011 02:34 GMT

#681

On August 06 2011 11:19 youngminii wrote:
ok so when jeejee flips green can we kill bc?

You do realize no matter what he flips we're going to kill you right?
Like, how can any townie be so sure of another person's role/alignment so as to say he'll DT check green and flip green? At best, it's mafia trying to gain town cred. At worst, it's just mafia trying to protect the godfather.

ghrur

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August 06 2011 02:40 GMT

#684

Btw, when did YM suddenly come up with the analysis that JeeJee is green? What happened to this?

On August 03 2011 21:09 youngminii wrote:
I'm sticking to Varp. If he flips scum then BC/JeeJee should be looked at for a weird chainsaw defence. The attack on Drazerk was a bit unnecessary and looks as if they wanted to shift attention away from Varp without attacking Lucidity. Mentioned this on IRC already but might as well post it here too.

Nothing is concrete though.

Oh right, nothing is concrete. AKA scum being wishy-washy.

ghrur

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August 06 2011 03:11 GMT

#688

On August 06 2011 12:01 redFF wrote:

Show nested quote +

to elaborate this post seems like
"if he flips green we will mislynch again!"

To clarify, my post was saying YM is acting suspicious as hell with his absolute sureness that GG will be green.

On August 06 2011 11:54 youngminii wrote:
by green i mean town, it's not that hard to work out honestly

all i see is a mob mentality where people are going after person after person
if jeejee flips red well then i'm fucked

Show nested quote +

when i said that
i said IF
IF
IF
IF
god some of you people..

Don't even try to play semantics. This is pathetic. Allow me to quote you.

On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote:
If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC.

Now, in normal English, the if applies to two actions:
Whether or not the person is a DT
Whether or not the specified person checked JeeJee. Nowhere do you give the possibility of GG turning anything but green. You didn't say, "If he happened to turn green" or "were he to turn green" or "should he turn green." No, you said if you check JeeJee, he turned green. That's DEFINITE.

Also, you said WHEN JeeJee flips green, not IF JeeJee flips green. So let me ask, what makes you so sure that JeeJee was green when you said he should be suspected when Varp turned red along with BC?

ghrur

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August 07 2011 02:13 GMT

#757

Huh, so there's a GF meaning there must be a DT out there. Idk about vigi at this point. Vigi, DT, 2 meds, and a Vet vs 2 RB, 1 Scum, and 1 GF might be imba for town. I'd suggest DT listen to DrH and PM Mig the results afterwards. Also, if YM doesn't die tonight and Vigi doesn't claim RB, it means we don't have Vigi and we should just lynch YM.

Also, Mig, GG said he sent you some town leans and PMs. Would you mind posting those?

ghrur

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August 07 2011 20:54 GMT

#832

WOW, WHY DID WE SWITCH AWAY FROM YM?
Did something really just happen that quickly? ARG. >_<

ghrur

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August 07 2011 20:57 GMT

#833

And why is there no DT? Wtf is the point of a Spy if there is no DT? That wouldn't add up.

ghrur

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August 07 2011 21:13 GMT

#839

Yes, I suggest lynching YM after night ends, but we MUST slow down on the next lynch after YM. Rushing to Munk-E did us no good considering YM was basically guaranteed scum right in front of us.

ghrur

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August 07 2011 23:46 GMT

#846

On August 08 2011 08:42 redFF wrote:
Yup so here's a question. If Munk-e was scum for claiming vet and it was unreasonable there were 5 vets when munk-e was alive. How come now hes dead and flipped vet are we not looking at the other claimed vets. And before you say they counterclaimed jeejee, no they didnt. Jeejee claimed medic, not vet. So from a mafia perspective claiming vet/medic would have been fine. I'd like to ask that we dont majority lynch again, as it leaves us with very little vote discussion. This game is not as won as some of you may think.

I agree with red here. What's the reason for Syllo being confirmed Vet?
But whatevs, it's night. Let's see what happens.

ghrur

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August 08 2011 00:10 GMT

#851

On August 08 2011 08:52 redFF wrote:
Has anyone claimed being blocked today?

Yeah, BC has claimed roleblocked.

ghrur

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August 08 2011 17:50 GMT

#880

The problem with the vets is that even if they're not vets, they aren't necessarily mafia. It might be pointless to lynch through them. I'm thinking Lucid looks very fishy, but I still support the YM lynch come day.

On another note, where did Drazerk disappear to?

ghrur

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August 08 2011 18:45 GMT

#888

Hmmmmmmm. Why did mafia shoot red? I understand it's because he wasn't playing scummily at all... but then there's the whole vet group. Interesting...

ghrur

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August 08 2011 19:02 GMT

#893

On August 09 2011 03:46 Sevryn wrote:
They can't double stack real vets... and they wont shoot their own.

Roleblock + shoot is as good as double stack on real vets. Also, why not Mig or DrH or BC?

Why're we voting this fast? The point of a lynch is supposed to be to gather information. I understand we all think YM's scum, but clearly Mafia has been talking actively about their hits considering the length of nights. We should do the same.

My top suspects right now are, in order:
Lucid/YM/severyn.

ghrur

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August 08 2011 19:12 GMT

#896

On August 09 2011 04:04 Mig wrote:
Sevryn is someone we could consider. He has the connection to trotske day 1. He pushed for draz with jeejee. And the timing is weird. He doesn't post at all but he appears right after both day posts.

Not to mention he tried to cast doubt on DrH, seems defensive, and pulls the "You'll be sorry after I die" card as a defense.

ghrur

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August 08 2011 19:13 GMT

#897

Hey YM, if you're here, tell us who we should lynch instead of you.

ghrur

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August 09 2011 01:01 GMT

#921

On August 09 2011 09:58 Sevryn wrote:
Can we slow down on the lynches? even if we know who we are going to lynch we get alot more information in letting them defend themselves letting others defend them. let alone accusing someone else if they are not longer the scummiest.

The problem was YM didn't even care to defend himself.

ghrur

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August 09 2011 14:32 GMT

#949

Actually, Curu and I talked about this. He seems to prefer lynching Chaos 13 too. ON/BC, why do you think TAA might be scum? I don't think he is because Mafia would've "roleblocked" him night 1 instead of Kenpachi. That way, whether he claims Vig or VT, he can be essentially "confirmed." The fact that mafia didn't, killed Trotske, forced him to give up his plan, and forced him to bring attention onto himself should show that TAA isn't mafia. If that's the case, Chaos could very well be a very good lynch.

ghrur

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August 09 2011 15:41 GMT

#951

On August 09 2011 23:43 Sevryn wrote:
who has claimed to be Roleblocked by the second RBer. is there a chance they dont have one and thats why they are not killing the vets?

Read the IRC convo? So far it's guessed that they're stacking RB+Hit so they can essentially 1shot anyone they want.