On August 08 2011 05:59 Lucidity wrote:
YM would have been the safer lynch after Munk-E claimed Vet. But town will get cocky with 2 scum lynches in a row.

That lynch proved that one of the other Vet claims in the Mig group is false though.

If anything it proved that it's quite likely we have a bunch of vets. Just stick to lynching based on analysis, thats how Varp and JeeJee died...

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 08 2011 07:08 GMT

#857

On August 08 2011 08:42 redFF wrote:
Yup so here's a question. If Munk-e was scum for claiming vet and it was unreasonable there were 5 vets when munk-e was alive. How come now hes dead and flipped vet are we not looking at the other claimed vets. And before you say they counterclaimed jeejee, no they didnt. Jeejee claimed medic, not vet. So from a mafia perspective claiming vet/medic would have been fine. I'd like to ask that we dont majority lynch again, as it leaves us with very little vote discussion. This game is not as won as some of you may think.

Let's have a look:

DrH: Pushed varp then godfather. Claimed hit last night.
BC: Voted for godfather day 1. Claims roleblock last night.
Mig: Lead the varp lynch. Claims hit night 1.
Syllogism: Has clearly been working closely with Mig day 1. Has been pushing for both Varp and JeeJee. I trust Mig's judgement on this one.

How is any of them not confirmed?

Then we have lucid claiming. He is by no means confirmed, but the timing of his claim makes no sense from a scum perspective. If he just learned about Munk-E being vet, claiming vet himself would be the stupidest thing to do. It's way more likely that he just saw a problem with the logic that let to the Munk-E lynch, aka: 5 vets is stupid, lynch liar lol.

Anyway mafia can kill anyone they want tonight with roleblock + kp combo. Mig I hope you give all information to one of the other confirmed towns.

YM+chaos13 still seems by far the most likely scum combo.

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 08 2011 07:19 GMT

#859

On August 08 2011 16:12 redFF wrote:

Show nested quote +

Explain this statement!

1) chaos13: Kept saying varp is scummy, but refused to throw down a vote on him and soft pushed Drazerk instead. Pushed for Munk-E lynch before YM before this flip.

2) YM: Silly Mig push after Mig post varp analysis. Silly TAA push after 2-3 votes stack on JeeJee. Post about DT checking godfather and killing BC + "when DT check returned green".

That's the short version of it.

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 08 2011 11:49 GMT

#862

I can see plenty of reasons why saying it would be more important than doing the actual vote.

Whos your suspects chaos and why?

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 09 2011 08:39 GMT

#933

I'm not ready to lynch into the town circle just because of a few mislynches. Fact is the medic plan worked, and scum was already in an unfavorable position, so I doubt they intentionally screwed up a kill. Syllo, I would like you to be more active in thread with reads though, been excusing you because it seemed like you worked closely with mig behind the scenes.

I still think we are dealing with a relatively inexperienced mafia team. Hitting Troske and redFF, roleblocking kenpachi, not roleblocking their target points toward newer players.

My suspect list:
Sevryn: Invisible poster, who has failed to give mafia/town reads but pops up after day post. Called out but continued to be invisible. Has connection to Troske.

chaos13: His day 1 play is the most incriminating part about him, he changed opinion between varp and drazerk in around 45 minutes based on meta analysis. Up untill that point he found both scummy, but he would just rather vote for dazerk.

Lucidity: Scum didn't try to push his lynch day 1 when varp was under fire, claims veteran but insist one of the other veterans has to be fake claiming.

At the moment I'm leaning lucidity.

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 09 2011 09:16 GMT

#935

syllo whats your thoughts on todays lynch?

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 09 2011 20:56 GMT

#982

Sevryn why are you so eager to hear others opinion without posting your own? You aren't responding to PM's.

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 09 2011 21:31 GMT

#988

I still think it would be silly to lynch into the town circle who knew about the plan that wasted one of scum's precious few KP's. Would rather see chaos13 hang first, we are not in a hurry.

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 09 2011 23:03 GMT

#992

I'm against a syllogism lynch. Syllogism knew about Mig being veteran from night one, where mafia only hit Mig once, and used the roleblocker on Kenpachi. Syllogism knew about the 4 veteran claims before JeeJee claimed medic, so could have easily warned JeeJee that claiming medic now would be a really bad idea. And Syllogism of course knew of the fake medic plan.

Lynching just because of assumptions as to the setup is silly. Yes when we have 4 veteran claim, the 1 medic claim seems fake, because it's out of place. But remember when Munk-E got lynched for claiming vet as well? He actually was vet. We don't know the number of power roles in the setup, we know that mafia has 2 roleblockers and a godfather, it's entirely possible that we have more than the standard four powerroles, specially since mafia has all the tools they need to completely nulify them (2 roleblockers from start).

The case against Syllogism is mainly based on him being extremely inactive in thread, and that he would be the last of the vets to get lynched. But what has he actually done that is anti town? He has voted Varp and was one of the first on JeeJee day 2. He has argued for mass claim to Mig, which like it or not netted at least one scum (JeeJee). How is that anti town, compared to an inactive like Sevryn?

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 10 2011 05:55 GMT

#1001

hammer'd.

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 10 2011 08:38 GMT

#1007

seriusly stop with the fucking troll posts. Was he a mafia or not? Player list is not updated.

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 10 2011 08:55 GMT

#1015

Most of the arguments that apply to you apply to BC as well syllo. Anyways gonna go chill for a bit.

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

August 10 2011 20:34 GMT

#1042

I've had a clear town read on BC all game, but I honestly don't think we can take the chance not to lynch him after yesterday. I'll have a look at ghrur, sevryn and lucid tomorrow though.