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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 21 2011 03:12 GMT
#45
/in
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 21 2011 04:43 GMT
#47
/out
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 21 2011 16:41 GMT
#51
Yeah sure I'll be a replacement.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 23 2011 18:56 GMT
#324
Hi guys.

So I'm going to start it off by saying Ace's plan is horrible and bad. Don't get caught up in his reputation, he knows what he's proposing is harmful to the Town. Why?

It's a complete waste of a day and night cycle. If you randomly generate a number, there's no discussion to be had in the day. Everyone policy lynches the guy and regardless of what he flips we have no information to go off the next day.

There are several subtle things Ace is pushing that is without a doubt anti Town:

I also don't want to know what the setup is until Day 2 when (if) the Detective has a chance to get off an investigation.


Encouraging the DT to out himself to know about the setup. If we were to agree to this plan and the DT outs himself, they have an easy kill target or roleblock target. If we were to agree to this plan and no DT outs, then a scum member can claim DT and lead us around his finger. Relying on the presence of power roles to lead the Town is terrible since it encourages sheeping and for everyone to just sit idly and wait for someone to rise up, especially given the possibility that there are no power roles.

On July 22 2011 11:18 Ace wrote:
I've seen you and Palmar play before thats why


Attacking a player to discredit them. This has the double effect of making the Town doubt the player and making the player doubt himself. That is never a Pro Town attitude, you want people to be unafraid to state their reads and opinions and be able to back it up. If you attack a player until he is unsure about himself, he tends to put too much weight into the opinions of others and become easily sheeped around.

Ace has this whole attitude throughout the entire thread, subtly trying to work doubt into VE with a condescending and holier-than-thou attitude.

Ace's posting is definitely malicious in nature, his whole *yawn* and /facepalm going to bed stuff has no positive effect whatsoever. I'm not willing to believe a player of Ace's supposed stature is convinced anything he is doing actually helps the Town.

On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote:
You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not.


What bullshit is this? You don't care about the lynch? You don't care about the methods we take to find a lynch, and then you claim to be helping inexperienced players?

On July 22 2011 23:57 DragonReborn422 wrote:
@Palmar

I've agreed to Ace's plan. Where? Please show me a post that DIRECTLY states we should random lynch. I've given some arguments on why a random lynch is OK because some of you guys didn't understand it.

Also your sample size of 8 games makes you the mafia theorycrafter to tell me who has played over 100 what i do is stupid? for real?


Stop flaunting your 9347543 games played, no one cares if what you say doesn't make sense or is anti Town.

Also constantly attacks people. DR is also very much pushing a hostile and anti Town atmosphere. He's had a belittling attitude this entire thread through, that's not you how you help inexperienced players.

Ace is much more dangerous to me than DR at this point as his anti Town behavior is much more subtle and malevolent, but DR would indeed be my second choice. Both strike me as very hostile to an ideal Town environment. I doubt there's enough time to derail the bandwagon to Ace at this point.

##Vote: DragonReborn422

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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 23 2011 19:19 GMT
#331
Your attitude and your posting are ridiculous. Drop the shit and play properly. It's your own fault if you are a Townie that you act like a lightning rod of hostility and anti Town behavior. If you're able to draw 7 votes to yourself without anyone really actively trying to paint you in a bad light, chances are it's your own damn fault. You're not better than anyone else here, stop acting like it. I'm willing to lynch you at this point just so you stop poisoning the thread.

It's all but given you're going to die today, so if you want to help Town then expand your thoughts/analysis before you go. Your prior behavior has ensured that you're not going to save yourself. All you've done is try to attack down anyone who votes for you and call them bad.

I don't know what sort of environment you like to play in but acting like an elitist asshole and belittling everyone else is just ensuring that no one will take your analysis seriously on top of being extremely hostile to the Town atmosphere, especially in a game that's designed for new players. They already don't have much confidence, direction or experience, posting like you're better than them and deserve some sort of special treatment while slamming them down is just going to turn them into scared sheep. Drop the attitude and maybe people will be more inclined to listen to you.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 23 2011 19:25 GMT
#333
Laugh all the way to your lynch.

If this is your Town play then I think I speak for everyone on TL that we'd much prefer it if you go back to whatever elitist forum you came from.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 23 2011 19:36 GMT
#337
You can have the best scumreads in the world but it's all useless if you antagonize everyone to the point where no one wants to listen to you.

I don't understand why you would come into a game designed for new players and act like a condescending elitist jerk. Rather than try to lead Town through your reads and guide them you attack everyone and fill your posts with sarcasm and conceit.

The game is supposed to have a lot of new players. Telling them to their face you think they're worthless and horrible is just retarded.

Like I said maybe elitism is the norm wherever you came from but on TL, especially in a game that's supposed to help ease new players into becoming more confident and competent, your attitude is poison.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 24 2011 01:31 GMT
#359
And yes, what GMarshal said is applicable. I stand behind what I said about attitude and good play not antagonizing everyone, but I had no right to ask him to leave TL and I apologize for that. It wasn't my place to say that.

Anyways I let my emotions and annoyance get the better of me and I wasn't playing proper Mafia either. I promise to behave in the future .
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 05:26 GMT
#365
Sorry, busy creaming my pants over PTP. I'll comb through the thread soon I promise.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 14:28 GMT
#401
Ugh, inactivity is going to kill this game as it's a majority lynch system but I'm as much to blame as anyone else.

I'm fairly certain Mafia is among those lying low unless everyone just lost interest in this game because they know in this setup it's very much favourable for Mafia if everyone just sits back and doesn't do anything.

For this point Ace's I-don't-care attitude in encouraging more inactivity rubs me the wrong way. Ace you're a renowned player, can you give some thoughts?

For now:

##Vote: Ace
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 14:31 GMT
#402
And if you're Town, please start posting. I will do so myself now as well.

I got no pressure at all (no one even mentioned me actually) even though I was the hammer on DR and I've been MIA almost the entire game (sorry guys). For Mafia it would be ridiculously easy to no post their way to victory while the active players argue with each other all day.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 15:36 GMT
#404
Trotske, what is your suspicion about redFF? And why Palmar?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 16:13 GMT
#408
You don't get a scummy feel from me or Ace or any of the other people who haven't been around on day 2? Why Palmar in particular?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 17:51 GMT
#416
I think the best course today is no lynch because of inactivity and Mafia can inevitably sway any lynch their way right now with no majority yet and only a few hours before deadline. I apologize again guys, I'm as much to blame as much as anyone.

Let's make sure we have a much more productive next day.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 17:51 GMT
#417
Oh and
##Unvote

Unless we can get a consensus in these 5 hours.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 18:34 GMT
#419
Oh right well

##Vote: Curu

I'd like to pursue Ace tomorrow if he still doesn't show up but I don't want to let Mafia get him lynched while we're all inactive.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 18:46 GMT
#421
Yes, but 2 Mafia (or even Town) can easily "wander" into the thread and vote for him with 2 hours to go.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 19:04 GMT
#432
Ace is my top suspect too but do you really think, judging by the level of activity, that 2 Townies are going to wander in and be convinced enough to vote for him?

Still a worthless day is pretty bad I agree, but I think the only chance Ace gets lynched is if Mafia wills it.

Who is currently here atm?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 19:04 GMT
#433
Ok so we're two away.

##Unvote: Curu
##Vote: Ace

We need 1 person to hammer him.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 19:29 GMT
#440
Well if he was Town that just didn't want to try, he made himself a mislynch target.

I can't be a hypocrite and call him out on it though, I haven't been the model of activity either on Day 2. Here's to Day 3 being a new beginning.
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