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So I'm going to start it off by saying Ace's plan is horrible and bad. Don't get caught up in his reputation, he knows what he's proposing is harmful to the Town. Why? It's a complete waste of a day and night cycle. If you randomly generate a number, there's no discussion to be had in the day. Everyone policy lynches the guy and regardless of what he flips we have no information to go off the next day. There are several subtle things Ace is pushing that is without a doubt anti Town: I also don't want to know what the setup is until Day 2 when (if) the Detective has a chance to get off an investigation. Encouraging the DT to out himself to know about the setup. If we were to agree to this plan and the DT outs himself, they have an easy kill target or roleblock target. If we were to agree to this plan and no DT outs, then a scum member can claim DT and lead us around his finger. Relying on the presence of power roles to lead the Town is terrible since it encourages sheeping and for everyone to just sit idly and wait for someone to rise up, especially given the possibility that there are no power roles. On July 22 2011 11:18 Ace wrote: I've seen you and Palmar play before thats why  Attacking a player to discredit them. This has the double effect of making the Town doubt the player and making the player doubt himself. That is never a Pro Town attitude, you want people to be unafraid to state their reads and opinions and be able to back it up. If you attack a player until he is unsure about himself, he tends to put too much weight into the opinions of others and become easily sheeped around. Ace has this whole attitude throughout the entire thread, subtly trying to work doubt into VE with a condescending and holier-than-thou attitude. Ace's posting is definitely malicious in nature, his whole *yawn* and /facepalm going to bed stuff has no positive effect whatsoever. I'm not willing to believe a player of Ace's supposed stature is convinced anything he is doing actually helps the Town. On July 22 2011 11:43 DragonReborn422 wrote: You're missing the point of my argument Viscera. I don't care if we do a random lynch or not. I found it strange that you protest it making you look scummy. That is all. Perhaps our chances of hitting the mafia is more than 25% perhaps not. Again, I don't care a lick about the lynch. I'm pointing out that you are trying to helpful to the inexperienced whereas you're actually not. What bullshit is this? You don't care about the lynch? You don't care about the methods we take to find a lynch, and then you claim to be helping inexperienced players? On July 22 2011 23:57 DragonReborn422 wrote: @Palmar I've agreed to Ace's plan. Where? Please show me a post that DIRECTLY states we should random lynch. I've given some arguments on why a random lynch is OK because some of you guys didn't understand it. Also your sample size of 8 games makes you the mafia theorycrafter to tell me who has played over 100 what i do is stupid? for real? Stop flaunting your 9347543 games played, no one cares if what you say doesn't make sense or is anti Town. Also constantly attacks people. DR is also very much pushing a hostile and anti Town atmosphere. He's had a belittling attitude this entire thread through, that's not you how you help inexperienced players. Ace is much more dangerous to me than DR at this point as his anti Town behavior is much more subtle and malevolent, but DR would indeed be my second choice. Both strike me as very hostile to an ideal Town environment. I doubt there's enough time to derail the bandwagon to Ace at this point. ##Vote: DragonReborn422 | ||
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It's all but given you're going to die today, so if you want to help Town then expand your thoughts/analysis before you go. Your prior behavior has ensured that you're not going to save yourself. All you've done is try to attack down anyone who votes for you and call them bad. I don't know what sort of environment you like to play in but acting like an elitist asshole and belittling everyone else is just ensuring that no one will take your analysis seriously on top of being extremely hostile to the Town atmosphere, especially in a game that's designed for new players. They already don't have much confidence, direction or experience, posting like you're better than them and deserve some sort of special treatment while slamming them down is just going to turn them into scared sheep. Drop the attitude and maybe people will be more inclined to listen to you. | ||
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If this is your Town play then I think I speak for everyone on TL that we'd much prefer it if you go back to whatever elitist forum you came from. | ||
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I don't understand why you would come into a game designed for new players and act like a condescending elitist jerk. Rather than try to lead Town through your reads and guide them you attack everyone and fill your posts with sarcasm and conceit. The game is supposed to have a lot of new players. Telling them to their face you think they're worthless and horrible is just retarded. Like I said maybe elitism is the norm wherever you came from but on TL, especially in a game that's supposed to help ease new players into becoming more confident and competent, your attitude is poison. | ||
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Anyways I let my emotions and annoyance get the better of me and I wasn't playing proper Mafia either. I promise to behave in the future . | ||
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I'm fairly certain Mafia is among those lying low unless everyone just lost interest in this game because they know in this setup it's very much favourable for Mafia if everyone just sits back and doesn't do anything. For this point Ace's I-don't-care attitude in encouraging more inactivity rubs me the wrong way. Ace you're a renowned player, can you give some thoughts? For now: ##Vote: Ace | ||
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I got no pressure at all (no one even mentioned me actually) even though I was the hammer on DR and I've been MIA almost the entire game (sorry guys). For Mafia it would be ridiculously easy to no post their way to victory while the active players argue with each other all day. | ||
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Let's make sure we have a much more productive next day. | ||
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##Unvote Unless we can get a consensus in these 5 hours. | ||
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##Vote: Curu I'd like to pursue Ace tomorrow if he still doesn't show up but I don't want to let Mafia get him lynched while we're all inactive. | ||
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Still a worthless day is pretty bad I agree, but I think the only chance Ace gets lynched is if Mafia wills it. Who is currently here atm? | ||
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##Unvote: Curu ##Vote: Ace We need 1 person to hammer him. | ||
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I can't be a hypocrite and call him out on it though, I haven't been the model of activity either on Day 2. Here's to Day 3 being a new beginning. | ||
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