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DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 18:22 GMT
#226
What is odd about my list? Are you not accustomed to lists or do you disagree with my thoughts on the players? Please expand.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 18:43 GMT
#230
On July 23 2011 03:26 Trotske wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 03:03 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I actually think trotske is a pretty solid vote right now. he's playing so safe.

## vote trotske


By "playing safe" makes me a solid vote and yet people who look scummy to you are obv town? Is your head on backwards or is there something else going on here?


you look kind of scummy to me. "scummy" is all relative. you're lurking in the thread..popping up when your name gets mentioned. and that's about it. you're flying pretty low key...a pretty decent mafia candidate imo.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 18:46 GMT
#231
weak accusations lol?

i think accusing me of scum for using weak accusations is absolutely ludicrous. talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

THIS IS DAY 1 GUYS. It's mostly weak accusations/randomness. I even stated why I wouldn't mind keeping viscera for another day. you don't acknowledge this at all palomar.

Please read my posts or don't leave important stuff out to make your points. thank you.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 19:17 GMT
#233
actually, you're the first person i've voted trotske. keep making stuff up though.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 19:19 GMT
#236
what am i refusing to take a side on?
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 20:49 GMT
#252
@Sevryn I'm just at a loss of words at your last post. Every one of your points is either blatantly wrong or a misrepresentation. I will respond more in depth in a second.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 20:56 GMT
#254

Basically saying the other person doesn't understand how good a list is without explaining why the list is good.


I asked him if lists were uncommon or he didn't like my points. what are you talking about explaining why a list is good. I've given all my reads at that particular point in the game. I also made a post explaining that if dead and I turn up a townie you have some observations from me as a verified townsperson.


tell him to stop pressuring him without giving a reason as to why he shouldn't be pressured


he wasn't pressuring me. he kept badgering me about my game experience and my e-peen or whatever and i told him to drop it. that's all.


once again using how experienced he is with mafia but how inexperienced he is on TL mafia as an excuse as to why his play is odd.


I've seen this line a few times now. What exactly is "odd?"


pointless post.


not a pointless post. i've had to repeat myself several times because people keep making things up. i've had to repeat myself several times.


Basic a lot of his post seem to contradict each other. he claims to be super experienced but never explains why he does what he does. such as why the list is good instead of maybe your not used to lists. A large number of posts are useless and don't add anything while looking like they are doing something. He is the scummiest I am seeing at the moment.


this might be the worst post of all. "Basically a lot of his post seem to contradict each other." You can't throw a statement out like that and not show where I contradict myself. I'm not here to explain everything I do. I'm here to find mafia members. I have to explain a LIST? WTF? It's a list of my reads on people. Take it for what it's worth. Feel free to use anything from it...feel free to ignore it. It's a list of my reads at the moment.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 21:02 GMT
#256
@Sevryn

Some posters can just look scummy by nature. It depends on their post style. Not everyone is gifted with preparing logical, easily readable posts.

I guess you're talking about me thinking Palmar is a town. Well, I don't really like his posts. I think he hasn't read all the posts fully and definitely has misrepresented what some people have said to make some of his arguments. While of course it's possible he is a mafia (doing this intentionally)..he's more likely a townie (doing this unintentionally/lazy/emotionally/whatever).
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 21:06 GMT
#258
On July 23 2011 06:05 Sevryn wrote:
I was refering to the post where your only reasoning was "palmar looks so scummy that he can't be a scum. he's just a confused villager imo"
This is just really bad town play by you.


????? I've already explained my thought on Palmar.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 21:10 GMT
#259
@Sevryn

I've answered all your question and concerns. Please answer one of mine. You say "Basic a lot of his posts contradict one another" Please show the posts which contract each other.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 21:18 GMT
#261
@Jacinto

I'm getting really tired of posts that misrepresent what I say. I really am. I've NEVER implicitly or explicitly said it's better to RL then scum-hunt.

This is part of a post I made: "but honestly...i doubt the town has a higher than 25% of finding a mafia on day 1."

How in the world do you deduce that I think RL>scumhunt from that. OK, I DO THINK the town only has about a rand chance of finding a scum. BUT. we can not lynch active posters or people that have posted...and a myriad of other factors which can make a random lynch NOT GOOD. There I made an argument for you guys why random lynch is bad. now you're going to think im scummy for making an argument for this lolol.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 21:21 GMT
#263
@Sevryn

This is the last time I will address this because I have done it already and people don't want to read the same things. I think Palmar has a posting style that looks somewhat scummy. He doesn't use all the facts and misrepresents what people have said. Yes, on level 1 this looks scummy..and it's certainly possible he is a scum...but I think it's more likely he's a townie being lazy.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 21:25 GMT
#265
On July 23 2011 06:24 Sevryn wrote:
That's not the point. I understand you think palmar looks scummy but how can you just say he looks scummy BUT hes probably being lazy
especially on day one when its such limited information if someone looks scummy you jump down their pants and grab hold of the short hairs till they convince you they are not.


scums usually try to avoid looking like scums.

townies try to find scums.

palmar's actions falls to the 2nd criteria IMO
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 21:33 GMT
#267
@Palmar

I'm going to humor you and just go through all your posts and dissect them all and show how much you misrepresent facts or just plain make stuff up
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 22 2011 21:46 GMT
#276
I don't really have much more to say. All the discussion seems to stem around me. I've addressed everything that I have found...if your not satisfied...then I'm sorry.

You guys think I'm bad...I think you're bad...whatever. I have nothing to add on matters regarding my stance on the random lynch or my list (lol at making fun of a list of my reads).

My likelier scum suspects at the moment are about the same as this mroning. trotske, vicera, sveryn, and maybe jaycinto (but definitely not jaycinto and vicera both).

I'll hop in on other discussions or if there's something new addressed to me.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 23 2011 14:40 GMT
#289
On July 23 2011 14:04 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 06:46 DragonReborn422 wrote:
I don't really have much more to say. All the discussion seems to stem around me. I've addressed everything that I have found...if your not satisfied...then I'm sorry.

You guys think I'm bad...I think you're bad...whatever. I have nothing to add on matters regarding my stance on the random lynch or my list (lol at making fun of a list of my reads).

My likelier scum suspects at the moment are about the same as this mroning. trotske, vicera, sveryn, and maybe jaycinto (but definitely not jaycinto and vicera both).

I'll hop in on other discussions or if there's something new addressed to me.

Do you have any reasons to support your scum reads ATM?


Trotske has played an interesting game. His posts have been very methodical although sometimes with some errors. He is very actively lurking the thread. Many of his posts are in the form of a question for another player to clarify. These kind of posts are very safe as he doesn't antagonize anyone or allow him the chance to slip up. Pretty common activity for a newer scum player not sure about what to post to try to fit in. Otherwise, he is fairly noncommittal about who he thinks is scum. I'm going to upgrade him to a moderate scum lean.

I have a moderate-heavy lean on Vicera being a scum...but this is more of a feel play here. I think his early game looks like a scum player who has had a few games of experience under his belt and tries a little too hard to fit in with the village. (This is why I call his posts forced.) I don't remember much about him after our squabble..but I will re-read.

Sveryn, you wwere kind of flying under the radar. I had a slight scum lean on you at the beginning of the day. You popped in with a fair amount of posts yesterday. It feels like you feel content to lynch whoever. You're not really looking for scum candidates. I think you are a little >rand chance of being scum.

Jacinto is probably my weakest scum candidate. I mostly feel like one of jacinto or vicera have to be scum but not both.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 23 2011 14:45 GMT
#290
On July 23 2011 20:02 Palmar wrote:
So you've gone from me being scum to me simply being detrimental to town?

The case against DR422 remains that he doesn't even commit to his own scum-reads, he's leaning heavy scum on VE and then votes for a random lurker. It's the safest possible play in the book. But then again, just like when you accused me of putting words in people's mouths and then promptly did it yourself, now you're accusing people of not reading the thread and then you do the same shit yourself again?

I don't even have second thoughts anymore, I'm pretty convinced DR422 is scum.

The worst part is that you call me detrimental to town, yet you defend someone on rather flimsy evidence, like there is nothing that should have you so convinced he's town... unless you of course already know his alignment, that's actually a possibilty.



I have committed to my scum reads. I really hate it when you make stuff up like this. I posted that I don't mind keeping Viscera around even if he is scum as he posts a fair amount and that is useful in itself. I had a scum lean on trotske before I voted him.
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 23 2011 14:57 GMT
#291
We really need to consolidate our wagons guys so the town gets much more beneficial information from votes. It appears quite likely I will be one. We need to decide on another wagon (even if you're pretty convinced I'm scum).

Can we get a wagon on trotske?
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 23 2011 15:06 GMT
#293
On July 24 2011 00:01 Jacinto wrote:
I have reread, and even though I'm not as convinced as I was before, my vote will stay on DR. I still feel that he would be the best target for a d1 lynch. Chances are I will fall asleep in an hour or two, so I probably won't be around to be able to do a last minute vote.
Fingers crossed.


I don't really like this post. feels like you're setting yourself up for if/when i do turn up townie to say "oh yea i wasn't as convinced on him being scum."
DragonReborn422
Profile Joined July 2011
United States91 Posts
July 23 2011 15:51 GMT
#295
i think i have a pretty good case against trotske actually. will have it up in about 10 minutes.
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