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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On July 27 2011 07:48 Palmar wrote: Right, voting for you tomorrow Trotske. Like it matters, but... ##Unvote: Trotske ##Vote: Palmar Red, I suggest you do the same if you're town. Palmar has just showed his true colors. He was all about an Ace lynch yesterday, and was ALSO all about a Trotske lynch today...yet that's the reason he votes for me. Good to know one's viewpoint changes with the wind direction. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
Re-read the thread, trotske is more likely to be a newbie than actually scum, I'm pretty sure you're just going for an easy lynch, you knew all along that I was going to support an Ace lynch cause I was mad at him for that shitty day 1 analysis. | ||
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aprudds
Canada144 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Pretty intriguing stuff. Sucks that I missed it because I was sure he was scum. Live and learn. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
We're in a precarious position here...because if we lynch Palmar and he's scum, it's going to be hard to find the other scum because I led the first two lynches, not scum...so technically I'm the most suspicious. Unfortunately, I'm also town...so Palmar's partner is someone hopping on bandwagons, safe from scrutiny. I also want to point out another possibility, in the spirit of transparency. I could be way off on Palmar AND Trotske...scum could be 3 random lurkers just as easily. Especially since the thread is relatively active and only townie deaths. I'm only so suspicious of Palmar right now based on the post I just quoted...he seemed to agree with me on the Trotske tip until appruds flipped...which was someone else Palmar suspected, btw. And suddenly I'm the most scummy. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
##Unvote: Palmar | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
This requires another re-read. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Anything I've said I've said in the spirit of helping town find scum. As far as I can see from Palmar's posts, everything he's said has been in defense of himself or his viewpoints...I've said everything in the spirit of winning the game for town. Obviously my reads are off, but I honestly believed Dragon AND Ace were scum...and that should be clear from my posts. Can you say the same about Palmar and his posts? Can you really tell where he stands on any lynch until the post that contains his vote? | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
in the morning im going to bed. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
On July 28 2011 10:13 VisceraEyes wrote: In my opinion, Palmar and someone else active are scum and a lurker is scum. Trotske isn't looking good, but the fact that Palmar was trying to get him lynched early d2 speaks to me that he's misguided townie. Looking at Palmar's posts now for evidence. We're in a precarious position here...because if we lynch Palmar and he's scum, it's going to be hard to find the other scum because I led the first two lynches, not scum...so technically I'm the most suspicious. Unfortunately, I'm also town...so Palmar's partner is someone hopping on bandwagons, safe from scrutiny. I also want to point out another possibility, in the spirit of transparency. I could be way off on Palmar AND Trotske...scum could be 3 random lurkers just as easily. Especially since the thread is relatively active and only townie deaths. I'm only so suspicious of Palmar right now based on the post I just quoted...he seemed to agree with me on the Trotske tip until appruds flipped...which was someone else Palmar suspected, btw. And suddenly I'm the most scummy. Right, you're factually wrong, you're trying to turn the wagon around because we called you out on the bullshit. Yes trotske looks bad, but I realized some people had been subtly pushing him for a while. Let's break down your text, because I KNOW you're pretty good when you're town, you actually read the thread and you get your facts straight, this time around you're either painfully ignorant or you're scum. First lie: Trotske isn't looking good, but the fact that Palmar was trying to get him lynched early d2 speaks to me that he's misguided townie I never even mentioned trotske on day 2. On night 2 I said that I'd be voting for him tomorrow based on him trying to keep DTs hiding, which was retarded, but it's not incriminating so I changed my mind. Second lie: he seemed to agree with me on the Trotske tip until appruds flipped...which was someone else Palmar suspected, btw Only reason I mentioned trotske is his DT shenanigans, and I never pointed a finger at aprudds, if your memory wasn't so bad you'd know I was pushing an alternative lynch to him, although that turned out to be town too. So, I was slightly suspicious towards you, decided to check how you'd react to some pressure, and you didn't disappoint. your combination of "NO YOU ARE SCUM" and random lying hasn't exactly helped me get off your case. So my vote is staying where it is. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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Trotske
410 Posts
On July 28 2011 09:22 redFF wrote: i actually do think scum is probably palmar/trotske/one of the random lurkers. i've been wrong before tho. I'd like trotske to point out how ive been scummy tho that will be interesting. The main thing is you havn't posted a legit original thought this whole thread and half your posts are one liners with no thought behind them. And you have been tunneling the shit out of townies the whole game. I will post more detailed posts when I get home. I really want to hear from people like Sevryn, Fortune (who hasn't been seen in forever), and Pyo. The main problem I feel in this game has been so little activity from half the pople in the game so we have like no little info but we are in a shitty enough position that mafia can be inactive and we can't mkae a case against them. | ||
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Pyo
United States738 Posts
On July 29 2011 00:57 Trotske wrote: The main thing is you havn't posted a legit original thought this whole thread and half your posts are one liners with no thought behind them. And you have been tunneling the shit out of townies the whole game. I will post more detailed posts when I get home. I really want to hear from people like Sevryn, Fortune (who hasn't been seen in forever), and Pyo. The main problem I feel in this game has been so little activity from half the pople in the game so we have like no little info but we are in a shitty enough position that mafia can be inactive and we can't mkae a case against them. I've been following along, but I'm not quite sure what to do. I was trying to come up with some heroic move like I pulled in SNMMIV to try to trick/trap mafia into slipping, but they haven't really given us/me anything to work with (in SNMMIV we had a blue claim and a roleblock claim by mafia, but here we've got nothing). I didn't like either lynch so far, but the rationale behind each one wasn't quite the same the. RD was bandwagoned against and was sort of trapped into acting scummy by ridiculous pressure, while Ace was lynched because he basically gave up and stopped caring. Because of this I highly doubt that both were scum-driven so I doubt that the guy pushing both (VE) is scum, despite the fact that he's appeared the most scummy so far. Additionally, appruds dying has sort of eliminated my biggest scum suspect so I'm a little lost. So what to do? Since there have been no roleblock claims, I'm going to assume that we either have a medic or a DT, but not both. We're in mylo if we have a DT and can only mislynch if the medic gets incredibly lucky with his protect (so basically mylo). So how about we simply no lynch today? This would give a potential DT an extra chance for investigation and while eliminating another townie due to night kill, would make our chances to lynch scum tomorrow a tiny bit higher. And overall, out situation/chance to win wouldn't really change. I like this option infinitely better than risking that the 3 mafia would basically control the voting. Thoughts? ##Vote: No Lynch | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
Everyone's inactive as hell so waiting a day doesn't provide anything. If VE is scum, Pyo is probably his buddy. | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
On July 29 2011 02:32 Curu wrote: What the hell is this. There is no DT and if there was, he missed his chance to be at all useful to Town. Only way you can trust him is if he claims, leaves his investigations, and also dies. Everyone's inactive as hell so waiting a day doesn't provide anything. If VE is scum, Pyo is probably his buddy. what? either your not thinking or you are scum one more day means mafia gets to hit someone which will tell us more than we have now. I was thinking about a no lynch earlier and I think it might be the best option. anyone have a good argument against it? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
What would you do if someone came in and said "look guys, I checked redFF and he's mafia" Would you hang him? DTs are now useless unless they breadcrumbed their role. | ||
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Trotske
410 Posts
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Trotske
410 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22631 Posts
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