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On July 29 2011 21:11 chaos13 wrote:
I also still feel that we haven't pulled ourselves together enough. I'm still seeing a lot of random accusations that don't really have much force behind them. Yes, I'm aware that's what my post on Foolishness is like, but there have been enough people explaining why he is scummy that it would not do any good for me to repeat them again.
So here is how all accusations must be made in the future, in order to make things clear and understandable.
Player Name
Verdict:
Explanation and evidence. Quotes must be used here.
Player Name is mafia/town.
##Vote: Player Name
This will allow everyone to clearly see and understand what you are saying. This will provide us with stronger analysis and stronger reference after players flip. Of course this will only apply to the original accusation. If you're supporting someone else's, say so, but there is no need to go through this again.
I don't agree with this. This is an ez mode for mafia laziness. They just need to copy and paste the template and make fake arguments.
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On July 30 2011 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:24 Palmar wrote:
There is another really good point in lynching Foolishness, we get rid of a really dangerous role in the form of the role thief. ... So you're saying Foolishness became the new role thief? Curu didn't mention that. So are you in contact with either Foolishness or Curu or did you create the role?
Neither, just assumed it, would be a pretty dick-ish role if he just stole it and the guy becomes vanilla.
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kitaman27
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On July 30 2011 01:35 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2011 01:32 kitaman27 wrote:On July 30 2011 01:24 Palmar wrote:
There is another really good point in lynching Foolishness, we get rid of a really dangerous role in the form of the role thief. ... So you're saying Foolishness became the new role thief? Curu didn't mention that. So are you in contact with either Foolishness or Curu or did you create the role? Neither, just assumed it, would be a pretty dick-ish role if he just stole it and the guy becomes vanilla.
Seems like a pretty huge assumption to me. Curu, can you confirm this is how the role works?
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On July 30 2011 01:32 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Foolishness is a better lynch than Nisani. Nisani needs to be vigi'd if anything. There is no information revealed upon his flip since everybody has been on his shit anyway.
He should be vigi'd anyway, because he's either scum, or a really easy target for scum to try and get lynched. The other option is to waste a DT check finding out which side he's on, I suggest that if he's not dead by a day-vig, we just check him.
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On July 29 2011 21:11 chaos13 wrote:
I also still feel that we haven't pulled ourselves together enough. I'm still seeing a lot of random accusations that don't really have much force behind them. Yes, I'm aware that's what my post on Foolishness is like, but there have been enough people explaining why he is scummy that it would not do any good for me to repeat them again.
So here is how all accusations must be made in the future, in order to make things clear and understandable.
Player Name
Verdict:
Explanation and evidence. Quotes must be used here.
Player Name is mafia/town.
##Vote: Player Name
This will allow everyone to clearly see and understand what you are saying. This will provide us with stronger analysis and stronger reference after players flip. Of course this will only apply to the original accusation. If you're supporting someone else's, say so, but there is no need to go through this again.
This post reeks of scum btw.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Also, I'll be voting Foolishness. He has made little effort in establishing his pro-towness on day one or two. For those he has brought up, myself included, he made no effort in leading a lynch against them. Instead, he plants the seed of doubt, while letting others do the dirty work. He votes for red, which is practically a day one abstain. He is also distracting the town. He claims to have a penalty restriction, yet posts with the tpld tags as soon as the game starts. He links us to a previous game that has absolutely nothing to do with the current game.
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If you lynch foolishness he probably won't die, unless I'm being fooled. Hope I my penalty doesn't activate 
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Are you reading the thread bum? Curu stole his role. Are you claiming to have made foolishness' role?
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On July 30 2011 02:25 sandroba wrote:
Are you reading the thread bum? Curu stole his role. Are you claiming to have made foolishness' role?
Apparently I'm reading it better then you are, and I'm not claiming I made foolishness's role
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??? You hope you didn't activate your penalty and you seem to think he won't die. What conlusion should I draw from this?
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On July 30 2011 02:24 bumatlarge wrote:If you lynch foolishness he probably won't die, unless I'm being fooled. Hope I my penalty doesn't activate
explain.
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On July 26 2011 05:35 Foolishness wrote:Thanks for making me immune to death the rest of the game bro...I  Really appreciate it
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bullshit, foolishness said so himself.
On July 28 2011 08:38 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 08:32 heist wrote:On July 26 2011 05:35 Foolishness wrote:On July 26 2011 05:31 redFF wrote:I Really don't understand why you guys are arguing against a  free alignment  Check. Thanks for making me immune to death the rest of the game bro...I Really appreciate it That was an attempt to stop people from randomly putting in TLPD's in their posts. These are the same people that Fistpound Palmar and hand over items through PMs without giving it a second thought. Use your head; don't be in a Fantasy world.
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bumatlarge is useless in games lately
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bum why did you make a statement without any evidence at all and then disappear without explaining anything?
Who did bum replace in for again?
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On July 30 2011 02:38 Kurumi wrote:
bumatlarge is useless in games lately
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA this coming from kurumi. I'm doing what I can tell help us win. And that involves not claiming, so sue me.
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On July 30 2011 02:49 bumatlarge wrote:BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA this coming from kurumi. I'm doing what I can tell help us win. And that involves not claiming, so sue me.
How the fuck do you know that Foolishness is lynch immune. I'm not content with just "taking your word for it," I'd like some form of evidence.
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On July 30 2011 02:49 bumatlarge wrote:BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA this coming from kurumi. I'm doing what I can tell help us win. And that involves not claiming, so sue me.
I don't know if you're aware of this but Kurumi has just been proclaimed BOSS MASTER TROLL in BC's AA game, that's how pro he is.
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Dammit guys.
I come back, read what's happened and I don't know what to think. Between Curu revealing what he did and chaos suggesting what he did... I've realized my reads have not been as accurate as they had been.
On July 30 2011 00:57 Curu wrote:So Foolishness is apparently a really good player right. His day 1 contribution consisted of randomly offered lynch targets with no desire to push or analyze any of them. Two of these have flipped Town already: Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 20:34 Foolishness wrote:On July 26 2011 20:16 bumatlarge wrote:I haven't read a word, someone update me? I'll try to read through this later today. Wiggles is a serial Killer, Lanaia and RedFF are good lynches but are sadly not going to get lynched. People are incapable of stepping into another persons' shoes (particularly BC's shoes) and seeing things from a different perspective. This leads to foolproof logic arguments of "you don't agree with me? you must be mafia!" which reminds me that if I don't believe in another persons' religion I'm automatically going to hell. If he was actively Pro Town and those were his reads, he would be pushing for one of them to be lynched instead of appearing to contribute without actually contributing. Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 15:14 Foolishness wrote:On July 25 2011 15:02 Curu wrote:Dec stated people who failed to create roles were going to be modkilled though. And, judging from my own role, people who made up roles in five minutes are not all that uncommon  . I don't see what Wiggles's issue is, can you clarify that for me Wiggles? What I said about the Hallows makes sense IMO since pure randomization really defeats the purpose of having the Hallows game sine you'd ensure they'd never be given away if they randomized into the hands of Mafia or malicious 3rd Party. Win conditions are surely not made up by the players themselves so I don't think dec would have put in an extra win condition for Voldy then made it a redundant one. @Foolishness It's already generating discussion. What behavior do we have to go off of atm? @Tackster I didn't say a thing about Jackal's claim being well founded. Can you point out to me where I ever said Jackal's claim is legit and I don't want to lynch him? All I said was I think he's 3rd Party rather than Mafia but that makes a good lynch too. And did you even bother to read OriginalName's role PM? He chooses people to Mason that changes each day, he doesn't start the game Masoned with a set someone. I don't see anyone making any arguments against Jackal based on his behavior thus far. I read through his posts and frankly there's nothing indicating that he needs to hang from the noose. I am not convinced that a mafia would roleclaim straight up on day 1, that's just an lol newbie move. Of course his responses tomorrow will greatly help us, but lynching him off of flavor text is like lynching off of day 1 clues. It never works, and inactives sit and mafia twiddle their thumbs. I decided to Start counting the number of posts where kitaman asks a question. I gave up because I was starting to run out of fingers. It would be nice to see him make a post longer than 2 lines. Soft defense of Jackal. He didn't think BC was a good lynch but did nothing to try to stop the wagon. Taking a stand to save one of the more experienced and renowned players is the natural reaction from a Pro Town player that thinks BC is Town, but he was content to stay on the sidelines and post random stuff. Also his vote conveniently fell on a player that had no other votes rather than Jackal; he was content with the mislynch but didn't want to be a part of it, and also didn't want to vote Jackal in case the wagon managed to derail. Since then his contribution has consisted of nothing but walls of text defending himself and a FoS/vote onto Nisani. Nisani is the EASIEST target to attack in the world as either Town OR Mafia, and I can't believe Foolishness's contribution is a throwaway analysis/vote like that. Now sandroba, the information I said I could give: I was the Role Thief. I could steal someone's role, and I stole Foolishness's. His post restriction is complete and utter BS, there was no restriction. What's the motivation behind it? Likely so he could draw out his role creator to snipe him. That or derail the Town into discussing it. Either way it's not real. He doesn't have a history of purposeful trolling like Kurumi does. He also has not publicly claimed his role was stolen and I have no idea why a Town player would withhold that information. But I can see a reason Mafia would: he's the Godfather. My theory is that he made his role description the same as the power he originally held WITH the added caveat of a post restriction and a Townie alignment. But now he can't claim his power was stolen, because any role check on him would reveal that he still had his old role and out him as the Godfather. One final bit of evidence, Mafia clearly tried to snipe active/vet players last night. Wiggles, Mig, and likely Amber (based on Wiggles's role and him being double stacked) were the hits last night. redFF was Lanaia's Vig shot. Why not Foolishness? If what I've heard is correct, he's senior to all of them. ##Unvote
##Vote: Foolishness
I like this theory. Now, if what you say is true, there is no reason for him to be town. Town has no reason to lie. Then, I suppose I was very wrong. Very wrong indeed.
On July 29 2011 21:11 chaos13 wrote:
I also still feel that we haven't pulled ourselves together enough. I'm still seeing a lot of random accusations that don't really have much force behind them. Yes, I'm aware that's what my post on Foolishness is like, but there have been enough people explaining why he is scummy that it would not do any good for me to repeat them again.
So here is how all accusations must be made in the future, in order to make things clear and understandable.
Player Name
Verdict:
Explanation and evidence. Quotes must be used here.
Player Name is mafia/town.
##Vote: Player Name
This will allow everyone to clearly see and understand what you are saying. This will provide us with stronger analysis and stronger reference after players flip. Of course this will only apply to the original accusation. If you're supporting someone else's, say so, but there is no need to go through this again.
I don't like this. I really don't like this. This idea is not necessarily pro-town, but appears to be trying to look pro-town. I get the feeling it doesn't work.
His vote on Foolishness also set a couple of alarm bells off. But ugh...
Now they're both so scummy and I didn't think either of them were scum before.
I know this change will probably cause people to cry out that I am also scum, but that's not the case.
My vote is going on Foolishness.
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