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heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 27 2011 23:10 GMT
#1411
You do realize the recipient does not know who it's coming from, right?

heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 27 2011 23:11 GMT
#1414
I'll be happy to lend the stone though
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 27 2011 23:11 GMT
#1416
I'm pretty sure. Why would it? K sending... tell me if it tells you who gave it to you.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 27 2011 23:20 GMT
#1421
You assumed there would be. I assumed there wouldn't be considering it's sent by PM. And no I have not given it to anyone other than you.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 27 2011 23:21 GMT
#1422
Although jackal must have loved me arguing that he be given the stone night 1.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 27 2011 23:32 GMT
#1426
On July 26 2011 05:35 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 05:31 redFF wrote:
I (T)Really don't understand why you guys are arguing against a (P)free alignment (Z)Check.

Thanks for making me immune to death the rest of the game bro...I (T)Really appreciate it
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 01:20 GMT
#1461
I'm fully agreeing with Sandroba on this. If you created a role that can secretly kill someone during the day, please come forward.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 17:51 GMT
#1595
NO ONE SHOOT FOOLISHNESS. I've got him covered. My role creator knows what I'm talking about.
If he's to be the lynch, he'll be taken care of.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 17:53 GMT
#1596
Meaning, if Foolishness is going to be lynched, I'd rather he be killed and Nisani take his place.

I'm not really clearly understanding the votes on Chaos. It seems like he made an analysis, he was wrong, and now he's being voted.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 18:01 GMT
#1598
I'd rather we lynch nisani. But if town consensus wants foolishness killed, I will rather we not waste a lynch on him.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 19:17 GMT
#1620
nisani is hilarious
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 19:33 GMT
#1635
On July 29 2011 04:22 Foolishness wrote:
First vote on Jackal
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 13:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
##vote jackal58


Post against kitaman:
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On July 25 2011 13:39 Foolishness wrote:
Can we please stop the mass role claiming now? I'm looking at the title of the game and it clearly has the word 'Mafia' in it, and nowhere are the words 'claim'.

Has there ever been an instance where a mafia claimed day 1 in a game such as this? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there has. TL mafia players aren't ballsy enough to do something like that. You guys can yap all you want about these people being mafia, but while you do players like kitaman get a (P)free ride as they make useless posts while pretending to be active.




As far as I'm concerned, it's meaningless comparing it to the first vote. The timing of your post would be a lot more convincing if you posted it before ON's flip.

After his flip, YM, redFF, amber, and myself were all prepared to lynch/kill Jackal. This is all before your post defending him.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 19:48 GMT
#1641
On July 29 2011 04:38 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 04:33 heist wrote:
On July 29 2011 04:22 Foolishness wrote:
First vote on Jackal
On July 25 2011 13:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
##vote jackal58


Post against kitaman:
On July 25 2011 13:39 Foolishness wrote:
Can we please stop the mass role claiming now? I'm looking at the title of the game and it clearly has the word 'Mafia' in it, and nowhere are the words 'claim'.

Has there ever been an instance where a mafia claimed day 1 in a game such as this? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there has. TL mafia players aren't ballsy enough to do something like that. You guys can yap all you want about these people being mafia, but while you do players like kitaman get a (P)free ride as they make useless posts while pretending to be active.




As far as I'm concerned, it's meaningless comparing it to the first vote. The timing of your post would be a lot more convincing if you posted it before ON's flip.

After his flip, YM, redFF, amber, and myself were all prepared to lynch/kill Jackal. This is all before your post defending him.

A bunch of his arguments are that I diverted discussion away from Jackal lynched. That's not true. I said why I thought he was suspicious, then others ran around voting for him without providing just reason besides "foolishness is right". Hunting inactives is what I do best. Go read my past games I'll even find them for you if you desire.


You NEVER said he was suspicious. In fact, you did the complete opposite. You defended him saying mafia would never role claim day 1. I'm not even comprehending how you can say everyone voted for him because of you.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 19:55 GMT
#1643
eh pronouns. no need to clarify.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 20:14 GMT
#1644
Hmm... reading through the back files

On July 25 2011 13:37 chaos13 wrote:
Well I was reading through the thread and was ready to tell everyone to shut up about voldemort/hallows but that conversation seems to have ended, in a comfortably brutal fashion. The things I think about what went on now:

Jackal58, Harry Potter
The question raised now is whether or not the Voldemort/Potter duo is like Joker/Batman was in PTP 1. Is role a reflection of alignment in this case? It would have been natural to think voldy was mafia, but that turned out completely incorrect. It is also possible that they are both town aligned. This remains to be seen. A question I want to put forward is: Should we get Jackal to use the wand in the same way that ON was going to? A double lynch either today or tomorrow? This could prove to be a powerful tool, and is worth considering.

Sandroba, keeper of the wand
My big question is why was he willing to hand out a KP so early on day 1? Unless he knew ON was town somehow, but with the deal of it being handed back to him, that seems highly unlikely. At first I would say he is town, because he was ready to hand the wand over to someone who flipped town instead of someone on his scum team. But then...nobody says that the keepers of the hallows and the collectors have to be on the same team. We really have no guarantee of this either way, but if we see Sand flip before Jackal, we can rest assured that they are not mafia together or Potter would have the wand now.
In conclusion, I'm uncertain on him. This business has introduced a lot of wifom around Sand, and I've really got nowhere in writing out my thought process on him.

Curu, the naive planner
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On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?


It's already been explained why this is a bad idea, and I agree with that wholeheartedly. This benefits scum far more than town, since they could eliminate mason or vigilante roles. However, as I often find myself pointing out, bad plan =/= scum. Based on this I think Curu is more likely town than mafia. If mafia were to propose a plan as high-profile as this, they would have thought it through and discussed it with their scumbuddies first, and it would not have ended up posted. But seriously Curu, don't push this plan. It doesn't help us.

redFF, the....redFF
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 11:55 redFF wrote:
imo give it to me.


This post makes me really uneasy. He asks for a KP with no explanation. Maybe he has a role that he can use it, or maybe he just wanted to hold on to it so it couldn't be used improperly.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:33 redFF wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?

Why would anyone, including scum, lie?

Also, smooth one OriginalName..


Screw you I want powers.

I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim.


This one as well. He accuses a now-confirmed townie, and tries to get him to claim. Couple this with his asking for the wand, it makes me think he also might have an HP themed role and would be capable of using it. What remains to be seen is whether this role is town aligned or not.

At the moment I have no strong reads on any other players. Hopefully I'll have more time tomorrow to read and do some proper analysis.


Something I really don't want to happen is that everyone gets wrapped up in the theme roles of this game. At the heart of it, it's a simple game of mafia. At no point in the game should role/HP mechanics come before good analysis. I realize that in my thoughts above I focused a lot on HP, and as you can see it only led to a lot of wifom. I will be doing my best to move away from this in the future and on to analysis based more in behavior.



and


On July 25 2011 13:57 Tackster wrote:
Calling the 3 Deathly Hallows examples of horcruxes is like calling Gandalf's asshole the one true ring. If we keep fucking up Harry Potter lore hear i'm going to call J.K.Rowling and then everyone will be sorry!


Apart from that I was shocked to see that day kill! Days are 48 hours long - surely sandroba having a stick up his...attic... is not worth 3 roleclaims, a day shot and the beginnings of a bandwagon. Chaos13 seems to be the only one who's done any analysis as opposed to 'i just read everything so do what i say'.

I myself haven't analysed much but seeing as I can't sleep i'll go back and try and generate a proper timeline of events...

Everyone take a chill pill and wash it done with some methodone...


Chaos stressing essentially we stop pursuing jackal. He tentatively surmises that HP and Voldemort can both be town. Starts testing the waters about giving him the wand. Then starts to put suspicion on Sandroba for giving him the wand. Basically ends with "don't let roles affect your decision at all". Tackster with the same mentality: we want no talk of roles, stop pursuing jackal. Subtly(actual not so subtle) trying to increase Chaos' town legitimacy. Both emphasize the need for behavioral analysis and to ignore roles completely. But what does jackal do(forced to or not)? Stay away so we can't do that either. We also have Foolishness arguing essentially the same thing.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 28 2011 20:51 GMT
#1650
rofl dropbear.

"every game i plau with sandroba he makes plan day 1 everyone sez stfu"

pure gold.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 29 2011 20:35 GMT
#1737
Bum. You misunderstood my role. He is not protected from lynch but it would waste my powers if he was. I can claim completely if people want me to.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 29 2011 20:46 GMT
#1740
i can see where you are coming from reading it again. sorry. wrong choice of words
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 29 2011 20:51 GMT
#1741
how much time do we have?
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 29 2011 21:03 GMT
#1746
I'm pretty sure I'm not the one who killed Foolishness.
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