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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 27 2011 21:21 GMT
#1324
That info is correct.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 27 2011 21:30 GMT
#1334
magic
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 27 2011 21:34 GMT
#1337
On July 28 2011 06:32 syllogism wrote:
Chaos13 and Foolishness definitely look like the best lynches as of now.


Your play this game has been very interesting, why should we lynch Foolishness?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 27 2011 21:40 GMT
#1345
When you stop posting obvious shit syllo, can you answer me?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#1351
Yah, as I thought.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:06 GMT
#1430
it's because he's not scum

Sandroba isn't either.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:07 GMT
#1431
I was looking at the wrong twin.

##Vote Syllogism
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:15 GMT
#1434
On July 28 2011 09:12 syllogism wrote:
Palmar aren't this stupid, so I can only conclude that you are, indeed, not town-aligned Palmar. Did you actually read the thread last night when we were pushing for people to switch from BC to Jackal?


yes, I read it very well, and I read it again, and again.

Wasn't it nice, going from telling us BC was not town-aligned (I love how you always remember to not say 3rd party or scum, just simple not-town) to telling us we're idiots for lynching him?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:21 GMT
#1436
time to shake this thing up a little bit.

Syllogism


So, I've been convinced Sandroba was scum since his ridiculous policy post (a policy he later broke, if I recall correctly he wanted to lynch me for pushing a jackal lynch). But the thing is, Sandroba can't be scum, he was the one pushing supersoft to do the right thing, he's basically with me on all my scumreads, except this one.. But how about his twin?

This post aims to show you why syllogism is almost certainly scum.

There are two main points in this thing:

a) Buddying up with Sandroba, someone who is very likely pro-town if I'm right.
b) Conflicting actions regarding Jackal
c) Conflicting actions regarding BloodyC0bbler

Syllogism starts off his game with some random comments on how to consider the roles. None of it is very interesting, this picks up when I try to push for a Jackal lynch, after ON's flip.

On July 25 2011 18:29 syllogism wrote:
Pretty sure you people pushing jackal aren't this gullible/blind, but rather not town aligned

Care to explain why mafia jackal would reveal his role immediately, knowing ON's real aligned and what will likely happen when ON flips town


yep, that's right only scum wants to kill jackal.

oh, and this is important for later:

On July 25 2011 19:30 syllogism wrote:
You are completely ignoring the previous posts explaining why it is in fact less likely that he is mafia than the people who should know better pushing for his lynch. You are starting to look like a good lynch.


Make a note of it, he's willing to lynch people pushing for jackal.

this analysis on kitaman could've been made about like 5-6 people in the game, it just felt right because Sandroba said it, so best buddy up.

On July 25 2011 21:07 syllogism wrote:
I concur on kitaman, he hasn't expressed his opinion on the main topic of the day while asking questions which pretty much only serve to make EVERYONE involved look suspicious

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Is it safe to assume that all roles were assigned separate from alignment? Or do we have another host created rivalry like last game with the batman and joker?


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 11:13 kitaman27 wrote:
So you're willing to give away kp an hour into the game sandroba? :/


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 11:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Jackal/On, why would you role claim when you knew it was likely that there was a rival that wanted you dead?


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 11:57 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 25 2011 11:56 Mig wrote:
Yea I assume no one else can use the wand. I just say give it back to sandroba. I normally think double lynches for town are insanely good but considering mafia can pick when they want to roleblock. I would rather not risk it.


What makes you think mafia has a roleblocker? Seems pretty unlikely to me.



So, early game 1, syllo was pushing a kita lynch while defending Jackal. Syllo then dives into the conversation with BloodyC0bbler that was literally spam for 15 pages or something.

On July 26 2011 05:21 syllogism wrote:
I can only see two possibilities: BC has a really odd posting restriction or he isn't town aligned. Leaning on former as this would be incredibly bad scum play and there are no village idiots.


Bloodycobbler is scum, all the way up until people start thinking he's actually scum.

On July 27 2011 04:22 syllogism wrote:
I don't like either wagon, but I think I'm more willing to vote for Jackal due to him completely disappearing. Him disappearing right when supersoft showed up with his check is a bit too convenient. I still don't think Jackal's play makes any sense whatsoever for mafia, but I've to go with him with these two being the alternatives. BC if you are mafia, your play today was awful so I can't really even commend you for "fooling me".

##vote Jackal58


That's when it suddenly becomes fine to vote for jackal, a lynch-worthy offense earlier in the day. Now Jackal didn't show up for the cop test, so yes he was a good lynch, and I think most of us switched as soon as BC agreed to the test, which is logical, until the test returns red, in which case we lynch BC, which is also logical.

Except for people like syllo, who already know how he's going to flip and it's a great opportunity to tell people they're idiots.

On July 27 2011 06:07 syllogism wrote:
He was obviously not playing his scum play though and it should have been clear to anyone who knows him


Yes, especially yourself.

Seriously, let me summarize syllo's day 1 for you.

1. Try to lynch people who want to kill jackal
2. Parrot whatever sandroba says
3. Tell us BC is scum
4. When people believe it, go back to Jackal to show he's town
5. Call people idiots for thinking BC is scum.

he suggests 5 dt targets during the night, sure he tells us to vigi jackal, but that's obvious at this point, isn't it?

3 of them at least are green (Mig, Me and redFF)

I don't think syllogism is playing the town game, I think he's just playing a scum game where he parrots anything Sandroba says as long as it's beneficial to scum. Notice the only thing Syllo wasn't involved in was when sandroba got supersoft to shoot Tackster. That's right.

Syllo has basically jumped every bandwagon that Sandroba has started, taking great care to only do it when it is good enough for his objectives.



Appendix: vote timings

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sandroba Brazil. July 25 2011 20:59. Posts 1201 PM Profile Report Quote #
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##Vote: kitaman27

syllogism Finland. July 25 2011 21:07. Posts 2253 PM Profile Report Quote #
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##Vote: kitaman27

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syllogism Finland. July 27 2011 05:25. Posts 2253 PM Profile Report Quote #
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##Unvote
##vote BloodyC0bbler

sandroba Brazil. July 27 2011 05:25. Posts 1201 PM Profile Report Quote #
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##Unvote
##Vote: BloodyC0bbler

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sandroba Brazil. July 27 2011 05:55. Posts 1201 PM Profile Report Quote #
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##Unvote
##Vote:Jackal58

syllogism Finland. July 27 2011 05:57. Posts 2253 PM Profile Report Quote #
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##unvote
##vote Jackal58


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sandroba Brazil. July 28 2011 06:52. Posts 1201 PM Profile Report Quote #
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##Vote: Foolishness

syllogism Finland. July 28 2011 06:52. Posts 2253 PM Profile Report Quote #
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##vote Foolishness



Syllogism is scum

to re-iterate

##Vote Syllogism
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:30 GMT
#1443
On July 28 2011 09:27 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 09:27 syllogism wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:26 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:25 syllogism wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:25 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:21 syllogism wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:15 Palmar wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:12 syllogism wrote:
Palmar aren't this stupid, so I can only conclude that you are, indeed, not town-aligned Palmar. Did you actually read the thread last night when we were pushing for people to switch from BC to Jackal?


yes, I read it very well, and I read it again, and again.

Wasn't it nice, going from telling us BC was not town-aligned (I love how you always remember to not say 3rd party or scum, just simple not-town) to telling us we're idiots for lynching him?

You are reading selectively and twisting words, which seems to be the norm for your scum play. I never said I thought BC wasn't town aligned; please quote me and after the heated discussion was over I stated I can't see that being his scum play. BC was going to get lynched until a few of us started aggressively push for Jackal


quote me!

Sure, this is a waste of time though so don't send in your check unless there are other morons like Palmar


no, no i'll wait the day out.

Good


and we're done! awesome


wanna do me to, just in case?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:31 GMT
#1444
Btw syllo, you voted for BC who you clearly didn't think was mafia, why?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:32 GMT
#1445
and just give us the results right now
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:34 GMT
#1448
On July 28 2011 09:32 syllogism wrote:
After the check came back red? Of course the first instinct was to believe it was accurate, but after thinking it over it didn't make sense for BC to volunteer for a check and play like that overall if he was red


or he was hoping the check would not get used on him.

he was red, not voting on a red report day 1 makes no sense. You agreed with me on that in RTM, but not now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:34 GMT
#1449
On July 28 2011 09:33 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 09:30 Palmar wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:27 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:27 syllogism wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:26 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:25 syllogism wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:25 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:21 syllogism wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:15 Palmar wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:12 syllogism wrote:
Palmar aren't this stupid, so I can only conclude that you are, indeed, not town-aligned Palmar. Did you actually read the thread last night when we were pushing for people to switch from BC to Jackal?


yes, I read it very well, and I read it again, and again.

Wasn't it nice, going from telling us BC was not town-aligned (I love how you always remember to not say 3rd party or scum, just simple not-town) to telling us we're idiots for lynching him?

You are reading selectively and twisting words, which seems to be the norm for your scum play. I never said I thought BC wasn't town aligned; please quote me and after the heated discussion was over I stated I can't see that being his scum play. BC was going to get lynched until a few of us started aggressively push for Jackal


quote me!

Sure, this is a waste of time though so don't send in your check unless there are other morons like Palmar


no, no i'll wait the day out.

Good


and we're done! awesome


wanna do me to, just in case?


suit up.


♥
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:35 GMT
#1451
On July 28 2011 09:35 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 09:34 Palmar wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:33 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:30 Palmar wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:27 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:27 syllogism wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:26 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:25 syllogism wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:25 supersoft wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:21 syllogism wrote:
[quote]
You are reading selectively and twisting words, which seems to be the norm for your scum play. I never said I thought BC wasn't town aligned; please quote me and after the heated discussion was over I stated I can't see that being his scum play. BC was going to get lynched until a few of us started aggressively push for Jackal


quote me!

Sure, this is a waste of time though so don't send in your check unless there are other morons like Palmar


no, no i'll wait the day out.

Good


and we're done! awesome


wanna do me to, just in case?


suit up.


♥


high five!


done now?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 00:37 GMT
#1454
On July 28 2011 09:36 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 09:34 Palmar wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:32 syllogism wrote:
After the check came back red? Of course the first instinct was to believe it was accurate, but after thinking it over it didn't make sense for BC to volunteer for a check and play like that overall if he was red


or he was hoping the check would not get used on him.

he was red, not voting on a red report day 1 makes no sense. You agreed with me on that in RTM, but not now.

This isn't RTM; the setup likely has way more millers to balance out the arbitrary number of DTs/information roles. In RTM there were no red results by real DTs and I don't think I was even around when VE made his fake claim. I would have voted for Drazerk though as his play was scummy, unlike BCs.


you did not know about the army of millers when you did that.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 09:38 GMT
#1511
On July 28 2011 17:59 syllogism wrote:
How incredibly stupid


Sorry bro, you played scummy as fuck

btw, chaos13 is probably scum for bandwagoning my case v syllo.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 09:39 GMT
#1512
On July 28 2011 13:21 Lanaia wrote:
In response to Kita...

Just because I didn't explicitly state that I thought red was probably scum doesn't mean it was out of nowhere and that I hadn't thought it.

I felt Drazerk was not a good kill.
I'd submitted my kill by the time I'd ever mentioned Drazerk anyways.


I don't believe you.

How many night kills does mafia have?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 11:05 GMT
#1514
does this mean you created amber's role?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 28 2011 11:16 GMT
#1518
On July 28 2011 20:07 sandroba wrote:
@Palmar Btw, why did you track Mig the previous night instead of me. You stated several times I was the scummiest in the thread.


I didn't track Mig
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