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On July 18 2011 00:58 Radfield wrote:Well, lets not bother arguing. I see why you think i'm scum, but I feel like you're blinding yourself to whats been going on. I still don't understand why you guys are giving heist a pass. Was he the dt check last night? anyways, I hate to draw attention to an after death post again but: Show nested quote +On July 17 2011 12:16 OriginalName wrote:
THERE KAV I TRIED ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!?!?!?! ??
I was PM'ing him, telling him that he needed to get out and defend himself more if he was going to live.
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On July 17 2011 23:19 Jackal58 wrote:
GMarshal had very little interaction in game with ON and Nisani.
ON agreed with GMarshal's assessment of lurkers and GMarshal disagreed with Nisani's. That's about it. GMarshal also heavily defended Radfield day 1 yet Kav is pushing for him on day 2. GMarshal voted for Heist on day 1.
It's hard to do a proper assessment because it is 2 different people with 2 different styles of play but I think the probability of Kav being the 3rd scum is about 50%.
If it's not him it's Chezinu. His "bank" has admittedly done business with "mostly" scum. When questioned about how he knows "who shot who" his answer is a vague "people told me and I predicted it"
One of the 2 is scum.
That was the whole point! I lure the mafia in and then they make a mistake and bam! I got one lynched. Plus, like I said most of town didn't believe my role claim and it seemed only mafia did. The reason why mafia believed me is because they had their own vault! It's logical.
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Radfield
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On July 18 2011 01:02 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 00:07 Radfield wrote:Because of this I have become an obvious target for both dt's and vigis, possibly still medics simply based on who I am. I plan on claiming my role in thread to avoid anyone visiting me at night. Ask Palmar, as he is the one who dissuaded me from revealing my role in thread, even going so far as to call me stupid  I said that you were not stupid enough to actually think that was a good idea. That's the thing, you're way smarter than the way you're playing. I've read pypi and I've seen you play in ccm, this thing is out of character for both your town and scum play. Also, trying to play exactly the same as green as when you're red is stupid, it only works one way. You should always try to establish you're green, even if that means smashing your metagame for when you're scum. Anyway, I think you're much better at town than you've showed us this game, and that's one of the big damning factors as to why I think you're scum.
I don't think you guys are actually reading what I'm saying anymore, but that's ok.
I said that you were not stupid enough to actually think that was a good idea. That's the thing, you're way smarter than the way you're playing. I've read pypi and I've seen you play in ccm, this thing is out of character for both your town and scum play.
Yet Sandro is trying to indict me partly on the basis that I didn't reveal my role. And you're here telling me that I was not stupid enough to think that revealing my role was a good idea...
Also, I agree that my play is "is out of character for both your town and scum play". I'm not sure if you're insinuating i'm the SK, but go browse PYP1, where I was the SK. I assure my play this game lines up with no game I have ever played. You guys seem to think it's because I'm scum, but it's actually just a symptom of the very little free time I have at the moment, and my desire to play a game with a bit more of a funsy spirit.
Anyway, I think you're much better at town than you've showed us this game, and that's one of the big damning factors as to why I think you're scum.
Again, I agree. You're seeing the right information(poor play), but drawing the wrong conclusion(scum). Partly my poor play is because of my inactivity, but partly it is due to me being a suspect since the beginning of day 1. I've spent most of my free time defending myself, instead of actually searching for suspects. The truth of it is, I actually suspected ON would flip green. That shows how non-existent my scum-hunting has been.
Sandro, I had a strong pro-town read on Palmar, and already intended(before he PMed me) to both
A) announce that I had a PGO item,
and
B) Trade that item to a pro-town player before the next night
I could have traded it during Day 1, but I felt that to announce my PGO-ness during day 1(either publicly or privately), while I was up for lynch would only complicate matters(which it would have).
When Palmar contacted me and asked me to trade it(under threat of death) I agreed, under the circumstance that he not reveal he had the Bat to any other player, no matter how much he trusted them. Instead, he changed his mind and asked me to trade it to Jackal, who he explained he was certain(100%) was town. I agreed.
Why won't anyone answer about heist? He has shown up on zero scum lists despite not being in the least confirmed.
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On July 17 2011 23:38 Palmar wrote:
oh, and the best part?
We use Chez's ability to transfer money to make the transaction, confirming chez's claim too!
How would that work? I can't transfer Kronos - I never said I could. Cheznos I can transfer.
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Hey Rad who do you think is the SK?
Follow up question: if you are town, why aren't you trying to get him lynched today
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oh you can't kill me for taxes, because I didn't make any money.
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On July 18 2011 01:28 syllogism wrote:
Hey Rad who do you think is the SK?
Follow up question: if you are town, why aren't you trying to get him lynched today
How is this even an question? Everyone should know by now since the SK claim over 15 times in the thread.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I think Heist, Chez or you are the SK. In that order.
It's night time, I'm not trying to get anyone lynched right now. Though if Kav survives the night, I will try to get him lynched.
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So who do you think were the mafia and sk hits last night
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If Palmar is mafia, then all this arguing would make sense. That's the only reason I can see for this nonsense at the moment.
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Yup, clearly palmar is scum and his plan is to join forces with town this game and get all his team lynched.
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On July 18 2011 01:33 syllogism wrote:
So who do you think were the mafia and sk hits last night
I think the SK hit chaos to send a message and it was pre-planned way before the first lynch. If nisani wouldn't have gotten lynch he would have died instead of chaos.
Let me give you another hint to who the SK is:
A bank is neutral. A bank has protection. A bank can punish those who break a contract. A bank is pro-town. Mafia can't kill bank. Only town can kill bank. Therefore, bank is pro-town.
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What kind of nonsense are you talking about? The thread is really straight up and we've been right about most things so far =P
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ok chez we know you are sk =P
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On July 18 2011 01:37 sandroba wrote:
Yup, clearly palmar is scum and his plan is to join forces with town this game and get all his team lynched.
Why would he want you to rolecheck me tonight? That would only get you killed. He announced in to the whole thread. Mafia can and I know most likely read it.
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On July 18 2011 01:39 sandroba wrote:
ok chez we know you are sk =P
Thank you. Just know if you check me your going to die. I think mafia put a trap on me for those who visit me.
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who said I am dt. maybe I am just vt who knows.
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On July 18 2011 01:41 sandroba wrote:
who said I am dt. maybe I am just vt who knows.
A mafia told me. Remember, most members of my bank are mafia. Because they had a vault themselves and know it is believable. I have taken the words of Kavdragon to heart, "I must protect my potential members".
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I would have claimed openly in the thread in a much clearer manner, but the last two games I was SK, I claimed openly day one saying I was pro-town. They killed me on the spot both times. To me it is illogical to side with mafia. It is much easier to be pro-town. Especially since I'm bulletproof.
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If mafia try to kill me with a RPG, they don't further their objective. If town kills me, they only hinder theirs. I would love for you to dt check me, but I know from a source that it would get you killed.
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