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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
1. Wrong victory condition (copied straight from OP). Youngminii knew the correct victory condition. 2. No axis campaign listed. The OP specifically states that "The Axis Campaign will begin the following night and will be announced in the Day post. ". This isn't conclusive unfortunately as it could be be announced on the next day post, rather than this one 3. The probability of mafia hitting the person who was used for fake claim on the same day is very low. 4. Youngminii wasn't forced to name claim. Why would mafia claim for no reason, especially such a high profile figure 5. This is WIFOM, but mafia hitting chaos13 didn't really make sense. There was nothing in his posts that hinted he was some high value target and he wasn't really pushing anyone hard. There were better targets. The only thing in posts stands out is the bit about NOT BELIEVING CLAIMS. It makes perfect sense to hit him if they were going to use him to frame someone. Not so much if they were afraid of him counterclaiming. 6. Youngminii's actions on day 1 don't make sense for mafia; this is obviously arguable 7. Youngminii's acting is stellar if he is actually mafia. Kudos in that case. Given the evidence against him, I think most players would give up 8. The day post is really lacking in content. Conveniently Caller was around so this doesn't prove much. 9. Chaos13 didn't counterclaim. Maybe he wasn't around, maybe he didn't want to claim until day 2 so he wouldn't be sniped before he got his extra life. Also, according to that day post, his ability is day vig... | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:45 TheAwesomeAll wrote: drazerk if you go on with this i start doubting you are really captain planet. He's not Captain Planet. It's obviously another fakeclaim. The only serious claim he's made so far is Winceton Churchill. YM says that makes no sense. Why? | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:44 youngminii wrote: imo either drazerk or taa (or both) is lying didn't coag claim british as well? lol @ drazerk, so cute, i wanted to find a heart  also iirc someone claimed winston churchill's name already, but i might very well be mistaken Someone is lying about being British but I haven't seen churchill's name used other than me, Or else I would of instantly sniped him out | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
I caught up since the night post. You claimed a relatively unimportant role (I think? I am not a history buff) but then it ends up flipping night 1. Tough luck bro =\ But there is no way there are two of you, so one of you is lying. And one of you is dead, so I'm inclined to trust that guy. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:48 Drazerk wrote: Someone is lying about being British but I haven't seen churchill's name used other than me, Or else I would of instantly sniped him out Everyone Boreritish has had some play on their name with being boring. Why not yours? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
me coag drazerk taa deconduo ? also, why did deconduo's name claim include 'sir' when drazerk's didn't? host slip up or scum slip | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
I'm going to hit myself now for actually getting dragged into this nameclaim analysis nonsense even once. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:51 youngminii wrote: too many british me coag drazerk taa deconduo ? also, why did deconduo's name claim include 'sir' when drazerk's didn't? host slip up or scum slip Drazerk is fake obviously. No idea who TAA's guy even is meant to be. | ||
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TheAwesomeAll
Netherlands1609 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:51 youngminii wrote: too many british me coag drazerk taa deconduo ? also, why did deconduo's name claim include 'sir' when drazerk's didn't? host slip up or scum slip ok, you say 5 is an unlikely high number of british people, and say one of us is probably fake, good reasoning, so far so good. Now it turns out you already exist, and you essentially claimed someone else's role. Only if i could connect the dots... | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:49 JeeJee wrote: I caught up since the night post. You claimed a relatively unimportant role (I think? I am not a history buff) but then it ends up flipping night 1. Tough luck bro =\ But there is no way there are two of you, so one of you is lying. And one of you is dead, so I'm inclined to trust that guy. -Why was his role given when he flipped whereas no one elses was? -Why does he have a different victory condition? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
i want to kill taa but i still want to lynch opz | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:58 syllogism wrote: "Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill", Sir Winceton Borenard Churchill would have been more believable. The only issue with his "fake claim" is that it's a pretty ballsy one. He's had two other fake nameclaims that were believed instantly. What is with your fascination with nameclaims? Do we really want to turn this game into flavor hunting and let the people who have scum actions go unpunished? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235762 This should be required reading. Mafia won this game because a fake claim slipped through and became confirmed Town. sandroba was on this scum team that won because of a fake claim slipping through. sandroba now is fanatically pushing name claims. Hmm. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
in CC it was the role that citizen claimed allowing him to slip through in this game we're going for names ..which isn't any better lol if i was scum i'd just ignore the whole name claiming thing | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On July 10 2011 02:05 youngminii wrote: to be fair (speaking as the cohost of that game), it's not really comparable in CC it was the role that citizen claimed allowing him to slip through in this game we're going for names ..which isn't any better lol if i was scum i'd just ignore the whole name claiming thing So you agree with my point that name hunting isn't any better and is devastating for Town when even one goes wrong. Then say only Mafia would be ignoring name claims? wat | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On July 10 2011 01:57 deconduo wrote: -Why was his role given when he flipped whereas no one elses was? -Why does he have a different victory condition? I'm not the host, how would I know? If you're telling me this is another no-flip game, you're retarded. The one thing I trust so far is the flips that happened so far. Nothing else. | ||
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