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On July 10 2011 01:45 TheAwesomeAll wrote: drazerk if you go on with this i start doubting you are really captain planet. He's not Captain Planet. It's obviously another fakeclaim. The only serious claim he's made so far is Winceton Churchill. YM says that makes no sense. Why? | ||
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On July 10 2011 01:48 Drazerk wrote: Someone is lying about being British but I haven't seen churchill's name used other than me, Or else I would of instantly sniped him out Everyone Boreritish has had some play on their name with being boring. Why not yours? | ||
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I'm going to hit myself now for actually getting dragged into this nameclaim analysis nonsense even once. | ||
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On July 10 2011 01:58 syllogism wrote: "Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill", Sir Winceton Borenard Churchill would have been more believable. The only issue with his "fake claim" is that it's a pretty ballsy one. He's had two other fake nameclaims that were believed instantly. What is with your fascination with nameclaims? Do we really want to turn this game into flavor hunting and let the people who have scum actions go unpunished? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235762 This should be required reading. Mafia won this game because a fake claim slipped through and became confirmed Town. sandroba was on this scum team that won because of a fake claim slipping through. sandroba now is fanatically pushing name claims. Hmm. | ||
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On July 10 2011 02:05 youngminii wrote: to be fair (speaking as the cohost of that game), it's not really comparable in CC it was the role that citizen claimed allowing him to slip through in this game we're going for names ..which isn't any better lol if i was scum i'd just ignore the whole name claiming thing So you agree with my point that name hunting isn't any better and is devastating for Town when even one goes wrong. Then say only Mafia would be ignoring name claims? wat | ||
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On July 10 2011 02:07 syllogism wrote: CCM isn't like this setup at all Ok so it was a roleclaim that allowed him to fly under the radar. Smart roleclaim. But it could still be seen through if you can analyze it correctly: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/KLbkqknwcuh Name claims you can't rely on anything except lucking into a player claiming someone else who is already in the game. In a game of luck and randomness, Mafia comes out on top because they have information and can influence decisions. On July 10 2011 02:18 sandroba wrote: Not necessarily someone is lying, and if someone is I would assume it to be TAA. Let's assume only one chinese as per syllo theory. That leaves 4 factions to distribute a lot of townies, not necessarilly evenly. Let's not jump to conclusions. Winston claim is pretty balsy, so he's prob town. JeeJee and Curu where is your claim? @curu I'll answer any questions you ask if you claim your name. You have needlessly outted that you have a power role, but you refuse to share your name? Why is that? From what you claimed so far your name should have no barring on your power. I have not outed that I am a power role. I said some of my powers are undeniably more useful than others. Mafia can believe I have a useful one or useless one right now as they want to believe. WIFOM come at me Mafia. You outed yourself with nuke immunity without anyone asking you. Are you seriously this contradictory? I'm going to point out the biggest flaw in all of your nameclaim bullshit right now. You are all operating under the assumption that Mafia can mask flips. If Mafia also has a name/role DT then they find a world leader, kill him, move his flip to something else and have one of them claim the world leader. You all instantly believe he is 100% confirmed Town. We instantly lose on lylo. You're a smart guy sandroba, you helped come up with the fake roleclaim in CCM didn't you? Did I just puncture a hole in your new plan? | ||
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On July 10 2011 02:26 syllogism wrote: Jeejee and Curu should claim Convince me that nameclaims are the way to go and I'll give you mine. I'm giving analysis, I'm giving my thoughts, I'm giving scenarios where nameclaim is bad, all you guys are giving is "i'm not mafia. u name claim now." On July 10 2011 02:35 TheAwesomeAll wrote: 29-6= 23 23-2=21 21/4=5.25 atm we have YM getting counted as british, while he claimed a name that already existed. Also i can proof quite easily that im british, since im a veteran and i got that extra live i have 3 lives atm, and i can miss one np. nuke:TheAwesomeAll I bet Palmar is laughing his ass off right now. | ||
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On July 10 2011 02:38 sandroba wrote: Yes I did. How is this relevant again? What's your reason for not claiming your name again? Special win conditions, possible anti nameclaim mechanics, I just threw up a plan that Mafia could abuse (I'm sure there's more I haven't thought of), veiled interests. What's your reason for wanting everyone to nameclaim? Give me something concrete other than we might luck into someone claiming the same as someone else. It's relevant because I saw through your plan in CCM and given your agenda now I am trying to see through it in this game. You've done a brilliant job of directing the attention away from you and YM. Obviously either no one posting now has read through WaW1 Mafia or everyone missed that Caller pulled the exact same bullshit you are now and he won because of it. My reluctance to claim my name paints me as suspicious but the 10 million suspicious ACTIVE ACTIONS other people have taken don't paint them as suspicious? Actions > words people. OpZ came out and explained why he was lurking. Just like you explained why you had a scumslip that's been confirmed now (1 KP Mafia). I gave my thoughts on OpZ already. I will gladly martyr if that is the only way to get the Town back on the right track. I'm not going to survive a nuke. I do not have antinukes. Hit me with one and you can find my name and my role and you can confirm for yourself why I am so against nameclaims. Maybe then someone will listen to my analysis and get this Town back into the right atmosphere. | ||
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There are two ways you are getting my name. 1. A majority (that means significantly more than two) ask me for it. At least this shows me Town is willing to unify in a stance. 2. I am convinced that sandroba is scum and sandroba seems to be convinced that I am scum. If sandroba submits to being lynched today and it goes through and he flips green, I will give my name and submit to being lynched as well or night Vig'd. Since we are both convicted then a one-for-one trade seems fair enough to me. One scum for one Town. I am going out for a bit now. | ||
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On July 10 2011 03:39 youngminii wrote: what rubbish is this you say "if we kill sandroba and he flips green i'll claim" and then you go on to say "a one for one trade seems fair enough" "one scum for one town" i hope you get killed tomorrow or tonight I'm basically kamikaze-ing sandroba. Reading comprehension please. If he dies and flips green I die. One for one. Given that I'm convinced sandroba is red then I firmly believe there is one red one green among us. He isn't fully convinced I'm red though apparently so I doubt he'll agree to the plan if he is green. And he definitely won't if he is red. Ok actually going out now. | ||
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sandroba I'm easing up on you for now. You're still in my sights but not tunnel-worthy anymore. I proposed my kamikaze against you to see your reaction. You rejected it saying you don't think I am 100% scum. That's the only plausible Townie explanation for not going for a one-for-one trade and that bought you a bit of cred in my eyes. I also wanted to see YM's reaction and he blindly attacked me for it without reading what was actually in my post. In my eyes this affirmed a connection between you two along with the antinukes and everything. But now he's flipped Town so I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore. I guess he's just an emotional guy. He wanted to defend you because you were supportive of him and attack me because I was suspicious of him I guess. I also thought your missile was launched with the knowledge that he would survive so you could make it appear there was less connection between you two. But that's wrong too. WHY the hell are there two Borenards? And wtf is operation Marco Polo? Marco Polo is famous for his travels throughout Asia. GMarshal did something happen to you? Marco Polo doesn't sound like a death rewrite to me but maybe the names have nothing to do with the effects. Are there hidden drawbacks or something you aren't telling us about the campaigns? It's either sandroba has super duper nukes or the campaigns have hidden drawbacks. Or YM wasn't actually Boreritish and something is seriously fucking with the name flips. Let's see what happens to TAA. He claimed Boreritish right? If this extra life he supposedly got didn't actually come into effect or the campaign somehow has a hidden drawback (like extra night life but not nuke life) then you just put yourself in deep shit. | ||
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On July 10 2011 07:45 Drazerk wrote: Well actually my first role was all about fake role claiming but then Caller messed up and now I am stuck with a slightly more entertaining one. You are one convoluted man. | ||
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On July 10 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote: I think Caller is trolling me on purpose just to see me die after day 1 I think Caller is trolling us all on purpose. Zombies, aliens, clones, wtf comes next? Justin Bieber shows up and nukes someone? | ||
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sandroba I forgive you for nuking against your policy. My trigger finger's itching itself now. | ||
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On July 10 2011 11:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Please don't fire, I don't want the conspirators to win...  It's worldwide no radiation day. If this keeps up I'm going to hit a lurker. | ||
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Then again I haven't gotten any read on Wiggles. He's been completely under my radar. Up to you to decide if you think he is scum. He's been pretty lurkerish hasn't he? So maybe it might be better to let that missile just fall. | ||
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On July 10 2011 12:07 PaqMan wrote: They're duds. The missile that GGQ shot at me is unstoppable. So I have no chance of surviving it lololol. You can fire two missiles at once but they both happen to be duds? What kind of power is that. I don't believe this. You're just trying to make sure they both land aren't you? | ||
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