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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 07 2011 18:52 GMT
#1469
On July 08 2011 03:50 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 03:28 Curu wrote:
On July 08 2011 03:26 flamewheel wrote:
wat


y u quote my sig

y u quote my sayings


I c y post count so hi!

Huh?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 08 2011 06:52 GMT
#1530
So do you belong to a country if you're a zombie? Or are you just "Random zombie who also happens to win with allies"?

Also, that's a good catch Cthsazsa.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 08 2011 20:02 GMT
#1609
GM, since we have time to talk, can you explain your weird flip-flopping on Day 1 to me?

First you went from policy lynching Mataza even if he were town, to trying to shoot down the nuke heading towards him, and entrusting him to a warden for the town.

You also have a ton of contradictions after Mataza launched his nuke, about whether to lynch, or to nuke, and even though you had agreed on a lynch, you later call for a nuke, which YM took as permission to start firing. There's more contradictions too.

Can you explain this to me, please? (I can start quoting if you want, too)
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 08 2011 20:19 GMT
#1612
On July 09 2011 05:10 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 05:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
GM, since we have time to talk, can you explain your weird flip-flopping on Day 1 to me?

First you went from policy lynching Mataza even if he were town, to trying to shoot down the nuke heading towards him, and entrusting him to a warden for the town.

You also have a ton of contradictions after Mataza launched his nuke, about whether to lynch, or to nuke, and even though you had agreed on a lynch, you later call for a nuke, which YM took as permission to start firing. There's more contradictions too.

Can you explain this to me, please? (I can start quoting if you want, too)

Sure, I was going to policy lynch anyone who nuked, to garner additional information I offered to nuke Mataza IF and only IF 50% of the town would agree. If YM, interpreted that as "permission" to nuke then he needs to actually read what I posted. I wanted to nuke Mataza so we could have more discussion for the lynch other than "policy". Then sand nuked me, and decided that "hey people who nuke aren't going to be lynched" and I had to get rid of my counter nuke, so I figured, if I save myself the town will decide I'm scum and spend all of tomorrow lynching me/nuking me, so I might as well save Mataza, who I had a town read on (despite the stupidity). Since we were apparently not policy lynching/nuking anyone, I might as well save him.

Funny you call me out on "flip flopping" when sand went from "no nuke" to "fuck this, NUKE GM", while I mostly maintained that nuking was a bad idea and should only be done with town consensus. Not that anyone listens to me.


Huh? I was just asking about you first, because I think I said somewhere that I bet you live through the nuke, and I was going to try to get you lynched today if you did. That was prompted by the big contradictions and flip-flopping. Since then, my read's changed a bit though, so I'm reading through some of your posts again. I wanted you to clarify what your thought process was there, and it's much better to get it from you, than to just make shit up.

Also, I get that San flip-flopped, weird how you want to redirect attention to him. Just because he did it, doesn't make him the only one who did it, nor does it mean that there should be no focus on other players. For the record, he's also a zombie who wants to eat my face, but that doesn't mean I can't ask other players questions.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 08 2011 23:25 GMT
#1638
On July 09 2011 06:35 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Wiggles, Gm...opinion on deconduo.


He seems like he's lurking, he's showing up when called for, and his posting is very bland and safe. He doesn't seem super scummy, but he doesn't seem like super towny either. He's doing a good job of blending in. Could be scum, yeah, or just disinterested, hard to tell right now. Probably a good target to pressure once day officially starts.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 09 2011 01:45 GMT
#1645
What do you mean retaliate? I'm not going to OMGUS you because you think I'm suspicious, lol.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 09 2011 01:46 GMT
#1646
^In reference to heist
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 09 2011 18:17 GMT
#1963
kk, finally read through, couple posts I wanna address:

On July 10 2011 00:27 sandroba wrote:
Also feel free to nuke me to prove I'm not lying. Beware of the radiation though =P.


Nuking you proves nothing, all it proves is that you can survive a nuke. It also doesn't prove, even if you are a zombie, that you're actually aligned with town. Why are you so eager to get shot when it proves nothing?

On July 10 2011 00:55 syllogism wrote:
Regarding GMarshal, while I still think he is likely town, there is one possibility for him to fake claim. It's unlikely and ballsy, but it relies on the notion that there are "two diametrically opposed factions" who won't dare to counterclaim because the opposing faction's win-con is to kill the other one. I found it a bit odd how he claims he got to choose his leader, while the OP seems to imply both of them are in the game.

Show nested quote +
A small Chinese restaurant that has two diametrically opposed factions:
Leaders: Cash Mai-Check and Malt Soydong.


This is wrong. If there were two factions, and they had to kill each other, the real Cash Mai wouldn't want to claim, no. However, in that case, the opposing faction would have just killed GM, because they thought he was the real Cash-Mai, and because he lost two lives, and would be wide open for a hit. So, he's either not lying about his name, or there aren't two Chinese factions who want to kill each other.

Also, ~OpZ~ is scummy as fuck, and that was a good catch for the win-con on Chaos' death.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 09 2011 19:21 GMT
#1987
On July 10 2011 03:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote youngminii


Reasons?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 09 2011 22:20 GMT
#2077
Or you can't launch nukes into orbit, kurumi O.o

And why the hell do YM and chaos have the same name? Twins? Clones? wtf, Caller.

Also, Mig, are you planning on discussing your nuke with town first, or are you going to follow the rest of the dummies and bring us down the road to Armageddon?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 09 2011 22:40 GMT
#2083
On July 10 2011 07:37 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 07:28 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 07:27 syllogism wrote:
On July 10 2011 07:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Or you can't launch nukes into orbit, kurumi O.o

And why the hell do YM and chaos have the same name? Twins? Clones? wtf, Caller.

Also, Mig, are you planning on discussing your nuke with town first, or are you going to follow the rest of the dummies and bring us down the road to Armageddon?

Given the weird role description and the sheer coincidence, I'm still inclined to believe either Caller or scum team changed the role. Probably Caller


Caller has changed my role already so It is probably him.


You've had like 3 different roles so far. lolol wtf


I bet he's trolling.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 00:51 GMT
#2122
On July 10 2011 09:14 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 01:20 sandroba wrote:
@Curu between me and opz who would you prefer to lynch today?
I was the first one to point out this post, which nails opz as scum to the ground:
On July 09 2011 14:25 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On July 09 2011 14:19 heist wrote:
What I don't understand is why Chaos did nothing when someone else roleclaimed as him. I support the nuke option but wait till more people weigh in.

...I'm uncertain....but kill him.

I'm not letting another calleresque fiasco like WaW1 happening again.

Only scum could make a post like this, given the situation.
If you are uncertain about YM being scum at this point you better have a damn good reason. And if you do if you are a townie you share it with town. YM claimed a name and someone dies and flips the exact same name. What about that makes you uncertain YM is scum? If you are town and not as clever as syllo NOTHING. If you are as clever as syllo you point it out. As scum you want to look good after we lynch an innocent and that's the reason for this post.

...
Wtf are you talking about....

Lmao...That post was after chaos's death.

I don't want another Caller style WaW1 Fuck up and I'm getting lynched for it. Thanks. Lol...This is gonna be too funny.

And I ALWAYS THINK YM IS SCUM. Read the post you pointed out to YM. Like two posts later he goes "Opz...you always think I'm scum, lets kill decunduo" which I took scummy as hell, but I was down.
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On July 10 2011 01:29 Curu wrote:
OpZ I have no clue. He's a lurker and now comes in guns blazing. I'm inclined to believe he's tunneling dec to provoke a response and I didn't really like dec's response. Then again they might just be tunnel fucking each other.

This exactly. I pushed deconduo AND DID NOT GET A RESPONSE I LIKED. I got a response and was chainsawed. Screams scum.

The lack of defense for me, and willingness of everyone to vote for me should say a lot. GGQ did not get no where the amount of attention I got, and I chose to go head on at someone, UNLIKE HIM. God I need to check thread more. Will finish reading, then based on votes on me, we'll see what happens.


The main point of the case is that you seemed very certain in your opinion that YM was scum. You were constantly pushing him forwards as being a mafia candidate, and didn't waver in that opinion. However, after Chaos' death, (And that's the main point), you showed uncertainty towards YM's alignment, when you didn't before. If anything, YM being directly contradicted in his claim by Chaos' death should have made you more certain that he was scum, not less. It looks like a scum who wants to appear uncertain, so that he was not seen as one of those pushing most strongly for YM's death, if he flips town. In other words, it looks very scummy to suddenly show trepidation where there was none before when evidence came forward that YM was very likely to be scum.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 01:56 GMT
#2149
On July 10 2011 10:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Oh wow. I'm being lynched because I said I'm uncertain he's scum because of the name claim? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? FUCKING LOOK AT HOW HE WAS POSTING WHEN IT WAS POINTED OUT. I wasn't sure to believe him or not, BUT I'M ALWAYS fine with lynching him. Always.

Seriously, you don't have people you can't ever get a read of Wiggles? That'd given the opportunity for them to be lynched you wouldn't take it 99% of the time? YM is that person for me. I'm always willing to vote for him because I can't feel him out, even though he posts a lot.


Ok, but why, if you thought he was scum all game, did you randomly decide that your read on him was uncertain, after it became incredibly likely that he was scum? If you can explain that, I'll be willing to take my vote off you.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 01:57 GMT
#2150
On July 10 2011 10:41 PaqMan wrote:
Dec's either a zombie or Boreritish.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 14:27 GGQ wrote:
I'm gonna switch to Palmar since sandroba isn't getting lynched.

It's gonna be hard to have an opinion until the dust clears tomorrow. Right now this town couldn't find it's own ass with a compass.


lol woops. Found his breadcrumb.

This doesn't mean GGQ is Town. But I'm probably wrong.
Oh well. This game is a big clusterfuck.

For the love of God, Town please lynch Drazerk and Sandroba.
I've also been suspicious of Wiggles. And I was right about him the last 2 games.

##Nuke Mr. Wiggles
##Nuke Mig


Let the World burn <3


Also, what the fuck, Paqman?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 02:27 GMT
#2164
On July 10 2011 11:19 PaqMan wrote:
Yes, I can fire my nukes simultaneously. No, I'm a Polish Guy. I'm wasting my ammunition because I'm going to die anyways and it's not going to raise the WRL.

I want Drazerk lynched because he's constantly pulling lies out of his ass. Sandroba needs to be lynched because he's a fucking zombie. Read the transmission from the day post. If you still believe that Zombies win with Town, please nuke yourself.

Wiggles your play is the same every game I've been in with you. And every game I've been in with you, you turned out to be scum.


Tell me where I'm pushing mafia objectives, and then come back. Go read some of my town games too. I'm constantly accused of acting scummy, and that's why people have a hard time trying to tell whether I'm mafia or town, because I look similar either way. Great when I'm mafia, but now I guess it's come back to bite me in the ass.

And for those wondering about my name, I'm the Vault-Dweller. And I'm from the future.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 02:44 GMT
#2168
On July 10 2011 11:41 PaqMan wrote:
Just wanted to throw this out there, but wasn't Poland invaded by Germany in WW2?

Yeah... I'm not Axis.
GG guys.


I'm not Axis either, GG.

I'm here to stop the nukes. GUESS THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, LOL.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 02:46 GMT
#2171
On July 10 2011 11:45 Curu wrote:
Oh dear god.

sandroba I forgive you for nuking against your policy. My trigger finger's itching itself now.


Please don't fire, I don't want the conspirators to win...
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 03:07 GMT
#2193
Ok, so time to start claiming a little, in hopes someone saves me, I only got a couple hours.

I come from a future, where the world is nothing but ash. After the great nuclear war of 1944, the world was reduced to rubble, driving the remnants of humanity underground into vaults. In 2132, we finally developed the technology to travel back in time. They sent me. My job, is to kill the conspirators, and stop Nuclear Armageddon from happening.

To do this, I brought back some technology. This technology helps me to stop nukes, and keeping people around who I think might help me.

All flavour aside, my job is to kill the conspirators. Once they're gone, I'm removed from the game, because the future I came from never happens (Back to the future style, lol). I also have an ability I use to help town (And my win-con), because they're more likely to kill/lynch conspirators than scum.

Go back through my history. I figured out that Palmar was the conspirator, and after that I pushed hard for him. My whole goal day 1 was to kill Palmar, who claimed conspirator. However, I wasn't removed from the game, so that means that there's more conspirators kicking around. I also opposed people firing nukes, and wanted people to stop, because I don't want the conspirators to win, I want to kill them. My win-con's also probably why most of you think I'm so scummy. I don't really care about finding scum (lol), I care about finding the conspirators.

Save me, and I can keep using more power for town. Last night I used it on Kurumi, who, surprisingly, I found to be the most level headed person here, lol.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#2205
On July 10 2011 12:12 Mig wrote:
Then you should be saying sorry to me Paq. I have an ability which was incredibly powerful for town. Wiggles is just another 3rd party.


My ability is very useful for town too. I wouldn't use it on people I think are scum, because they're not going to shoot at conspirators (who look scummy), and there's still the chance one kills me. Much better to work with town, and just try to direct them towards conspirators.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#2206
On July 10 2011 12:13 PaqMan wrote:
But I like the Fallout games.


Well, now you'll get to play them in real life, judging by how trigger happy this town is. I hope Drazerk is telling the truth about what he said, and that his ability lasts for another day.
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