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On July 07 2011 04:42 sandroba wrote:
I don't have counter nukes, else I would have used them on ym and sinani, which I'm pretty sure are town at this point.
And now this too. You're DEFENDING THE PEOPLE YOU SAID SHOULD BE INSTANTLY LYNCHED ON BEHALF OF TOWN? You really don't give a shit about the policy you so vehemently proposed do you? It's beginning to seem to me like you wanted to advocate all this stuff to seem pro Town but once shit hit the fan you show your true colours.
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No one knows anything about the roles besides which factions exist. Hell look at what Caller himself pulled in WaW1, role and country claims don't mean shit to me. There must be a reason Caller chose a closed role setup with an open factions setup. Consider the possibility of a 3rd party whose victory condition is to assassinate every leader of each faction for example. It's Caller, he's going to be setting up a shitfest. I'm sure I can't be the only one who's thought of this and I doubt they would counterclaim. That no one is counterclaiming you is irrelevant to me.
Why are you doing a complete 180 and now independently nuking and advocating for people who are also independently nuking? You spent like 4 pages trying to set up this policy. You, sinani, YM should all be lynched by town under your policy. And yet now you claim that they are the ones that are "obviously Town" when you yourself said no one but Mafia has a valid reason to go against your policy.
You don't seem to care at all about it. I'm not completely convinced you're scum because nothing makes sense right now but you seem to be just advocating chaos.
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On July 07 2011 04:49 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 04:45 sandroba wrote:
Read the thread curu. Me and sinani have claimed 2 leaders of CCCP that are 100% guaranteed to be present in this game. No one counter claimed us. Throwing suspicion at me at this point is stupid. And I'm the Chinese restaurant, but no one seems to give a damn about that one. I elected the glorious leader Cash Mai-Check over the treacherous Malt Soydong and got a counter nuke and a night life as a reward. Should have given into temptation and gotten Malt Soydong's two nukes and the ability to fire two nukes per day, imagine the hilarity.
Dude your faction itself says:
Chinese Restaurant:
A small Chinese restaurant that has two diametrically opposed factions:
There's probably another Chinese guy out there whose win condition is to kill you and win with Town.
If all of you faction claiming truly are Town this is the most frustrating game I've ever played. I guarantee you there's a clusterfuck of win conditions that Caller has made.
Can we please at least try to play this game in an analytical way instead of "holy shit I'm going to claim and nuke someone wheeeeeee."
I don't even know if any of my reads make any sense now because most of you don't seem to give a flying fuck what's happening in this game.
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On July 07 2011 04:56 sandroba wrote:
@Curu IT'S in the fucking OP that CCCP is allied. Do you think there's no lenin in this game? Surelly you must be joking. Also how would I know Lenin wasn't in the game if I was scum? Don't you think I would claim a low key leader. Seriously stop being silly or eat a nuke tomorrow.
Explain why you're acting completely opposite of your whole policy which you've been fighting for since day 0. It's the thing that had most people convinced you were pro Town because it made sense and you were extremely active about it. It's why I was willing to pardon your scumslip. Now you don't give a shit about it.
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On July 07 2011 04:58 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 04:57 Curu wrote:On July 07 2011 04:49 GMarshal wrote:On July 07 2011 04:45 sandroba wrote:
Read the thread curu. Me and sinani have claimed 2 leaders of CCCP that are 100% guaranteed to be present in this game. No one counter claimed us. Throwing suspicion at me at this point is stupid. And I'm the Chinese restaurant, but no one seems to give a damn about that one. I elected the glorious leader Cash Mai-Check over the treacherous Malt Soydong and got a counter nuke and a night life as a reward. Should have given into temptation and gotten Malt Soydong's two nukes and the ability to fire two nukes per day, imagine the hilarity. Dude your faction itself says: Chinese Restaurant: A small Chinese restaurant that has two diametrically opposed factions: There's probably another Chinese guy out there whose win condition is to kill you and win with Town. If all of you faction claiming truly are Town this is the most frustrating game I've ever played. I guarantee you there's a clusterfuck of win conditions that Caller has made. Can we please at least try to play this game in an analytical way instead of "holy shit I'm going to claim and nuke someone wheeeeeee." I don't even know if any of my reads make any sense now because most of you don't seem to give a flying fuck what's happening in this game. u mad
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Town seems like they stopped trying as soon as nuke launched.
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On July 07 2011 05:02 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 04:59 Curu wrote:On July 07 2011 04:56 sandroba wrote:
@Curu IT'S in the fucking OP that CCCP is allied. Do you think there's no lenin in this game? Surelly you must be joking. Also how would I know Lenin wasn't in the game if I was scum? Don't you think I would claim a low key leader. Seriously stop being silly or eat a nuke tomorrow. Explain why you're acting completely opposite of your whole policy which you've been fighting for since day 0. It's the thing that had most people convinced you were pro Town because it made sense and you were extremely active about it. It's why I was willing to pardon your scumslip. Now you don't give a shit about it. No, I won't explain shit. You now know I'm town, expend your energy hunting scum, not pestering me.
I know you're Town because you blatantly contradict the thing that made you most appear Town and suddenly act like you don't give a shit what happens?
HOW am I supposed to scumhunt when YOU'RE giving off the biggest scum signals to me but your defense is "lol don't mind me, go focus on someone else."
If you truly are Town and everyone else is acting like this too, we might as well just random fire every nuke and hope we chance into finding Mafia because analysis isn't going to do anything.
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On July 07 2011 05:03 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 05:01 GMarshal wrote:On July 07 2011 04:56 sandroba wrote:
@Curu IT'S in the fucking OP that CCCP is allied. Do you think there's no lenin in this game? Surelly you must be joking. Also how would I know Lenin wasn't in the game if I was scum? Don't you think I would claim a low key leader. Seriously stop being silly or eat a nuke tomorrow. Yes Mr.Paragon of self control and adherence to plans  Lol, I never said my plan wasn't to stop myself from doing shit like that . If mataza is scum, he wins MVP this game imo.
Alright you know what. I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm just going to go with my own scum signals. You're either full of shit and detracting from Town or you're scum.
Fire a nuke at me then. But if you have even a shred of your original intentions left do it with reasoning and because you think I am scum.
WHY ARE YOU STILL CALLING YOURSELF OBVTOWN? You are NOT obvtown to me. The only thing you claim makes you so obvtown is because no one contradicted a country leader name claim.
We AGREED to not put too much weight on role and name claims. But you must not care, you don't even care about your own policy.
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On July 07 2011 05:11 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 05:10 Curu wrote:On July 07 2011 05:03 sandroba wrote:On July 07 2011 05:01 GMarshal wrote:On July 07 2011 04:56 sandroba wrote:
@Curu IT'S in the fucking OP that CCCP is allied. Do you think there's no lenin in this game? Surelly you must be joking. Also how would I know Lenin wasn't in the game if I was scum? Don't you think I would claim a low key leader. Seriously stop being silly or eat a nuke tomorrow. Yes Mr.Paragon of self control and adherence to plans Lol, I never said my plan wasn't to stop myself from doing shit like that . If mataza is scum, he wins MVP this game imo. Alright you know what. I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm just going to go with my own scum signals. You're either full of shit and detracting from Town or you're scum. Fire a nuke at me then. But if you have even a shred of your original intentions left do it with reasoning and because you think I am scum. WHY ARE YOU STILL CALLING YOURSELF OBVTOWN? You are NOT obvtown to me. The only thing you claim makes you so obvtown is because no one contradicted a country leader name claim. We AGREED to not put too much weight on role and name claims. But you must not care, you don't even care about your own policy. Just nuke him bro. He's scum
No I'm not going to nuke him. I'm not at that "awwww shiet let's just do whatever" stage that everyone seems to be at.
Hey people. You have a LYNCH too. Let's stop nuking everyone we find suspicious and instead present an argument and USE THE LYNCH.
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On July 07 2011 05:17 Drazerk wrote:Forgive me caller but im going to role claim as everyone else seems to and you hit the bulls eye with mine. + Show Spoiler +
You are Neutral a crazed monk of the Swiss Confederation.
You are a worshipper of the great glorious god known as Caller. As you are overly neutral your only concern is your countries Well being and so you must kill all conspirators before the war ends. In every post you must worship Caller for making such a brilliant game of Mafia and remind the players of his greatness. Due to being neutral you do not possess the ability to fire nukes but if you are killed in anyway the guilty player will die by divine intervention from your lord and savoir and the next night phase is skipped.
Once all the conspirators have been removed from play you are also removed from the game but will receive an additional footnote in the endgame.
I take it this is now an impossible feet for me to accomplish but im going to get at least one before I go down ##Vote: Palmar also caller is a BOSS
Rules:
Cheating:
Posting any PM you receive from a host.
If you really do get modkilled because of this you just wasted your extremely valuable power.
Can we please stop roleclaiming and doing random shit and start scumhunting?
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On July 07 2011 05:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...I'm only on page 11, but Curu just seems scummy. @_@....I f5'd page 49, and seen thread went up five more and I'm guessing sandroba nuked him? Clearly I wasn't the only one that thought that.
No one's nuked me.
If you think I'm scummy then make some arguments why. At least we can get discussion going again.
Read the whole thread first.
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On July 07 2011 10:19 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2011 10:03 chaos13 wrote:On July 07 2011 09:52 GMarshal wrote:On July 07 2011 09:09 Coagulation wrote:
GMarshal IF U DIE and flip GREEN
Who would be good nuke targets?
No one, hold your nukes. If you die and flip green who would be good lynch targets? Sandroba instigated this whole Armageddon, so get him for me please. gtrs is lurking so nail him as well. Look at the people who were around and didn't comment on anything, look at those who just spontaneously decided I was scum, for no reason. Drazek is probably either scum or the neutral monk he claims to be, he makes a good lynch either way.
Actually I don't think gtrsrs and Zona have posted at all. They might have just moved from lurker territory to modkill territory.
At least OpZ is somewhat active now though his two only content posts both involve me. Tunnel inc.
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lol sandroba still with the claims thing.
This is why I think sandroba is scum:
Scumslip - minor tell, could be an honest mistake.
Going against his policy - huge thing for me since the thought and effort he put into his policy and the pro Town benefits of it made him seem Town. Then he goes and destroys the thing which made him seem pro Town. Now that that's gone he's moved onto this role/leader claim obsession which leads to my next point:
Obsession with confirming himself as Town - moves onto role and leader names as defense and now declares himself "obvtown." There was absolutely no vote pressure on him but he still seem to have clearing himself as his #1 priority. This is a big scumtell for me since IMO Town should be more focused on scumhunting than self perseverance. He had a good analysis of Palmar and a huge post backing up his arguments. After that, absolutely nothing except trying to establish himself as "obvtown."
Weak scumhunting after Palmar - extremely well thought out and articulated post against Palmar. Now just "Coagulation you mispelled Boreritish." Seems to want to draw focus and attention to role and name claims (something we agreed early on in the thread wasn't an accurate tell at all, citing Caller in WaW1). Coincidentally this scumhunting tactic also is the one that gives most credit to sandroba as Town.
I really hope you aren't Town because after the first bit you entered blaring-alarm scum signal territory. And that means you played extremely poorly because your first few posts and analysis on Palmar looked like you were actively scumhunting. I tried not to tunnel on you but every post you make just furthers my suspicion.
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On July 07 2011 16:05 sandroba wrote:
Yes Curu we know you are suspicious of me. Keep telling yourself I'm scum and maybe my pm telling me I'm town will magically transform.
Why not try to do something constructive for Town then? All I'm ever getting from you now is "yeah I'm suspicious. But I'm Town. Trust guys." And your only argument for that is your claimed role name despite the million other scummy things you've done.
Coag's given nothing scummy except being a bit lurkerish. Stop trying to draw attention off yourself.
If you want me off you then address the points I've raised against you. Do something other than blindly say you're obvtown with no backing besides a role name.
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So wait.
Palmar and sinani flipped 3rd party? And Mataza flipped green. Are we getting role powers for flips?
Also, shoddy Chinese equipment, aliens(?) and zombies. WHAT. Caller u trolling?
On July 07 2011 04:45 sandroba wrote:
Read the thread curu. Me and sinani have claimed 2 leaders of CCCP that are 100% guaranteed to be present in this game. No one counter claimed us. Throwing suspicion at me at this point is stupid.
Now do you see why I said name claiming is such a useless activity? Your fellow "obvtown" didn't flip Town.
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The nuke headed at JeeJee also failed to detonate. Unless JeeJee has some form of nuk eimmunity someone must have antimissiled him.
The missile on YM headed somewhere else. Seems like there's also a form of antimissile that changes their targets. From YM's reactions and his previous antimissiles simply shooting it down I'm going to assume this wasn't him himself that did it. Someone else saved him as well.
How did Mataza die? Was that YM's missile? I don't recall what happened to it.
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Oh ok, it seems like it WAS YM's nuke that killed Mataza. GM claims he launched an anti but it failed due to shoddy Chinese equipment.
I got that right right?
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I doubt he's allowed to tell us since you aren't supposed to post any information that may impact the game after death.
If Caller isn't telling us what their roles were after they flip then there's likely a Coroner type role in the game.
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On July 08 2011 03:26 flamewheel wrote:
wat
y u quote my sig
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On July 08 2011 03:23 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2011 03:10 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
people its night, lets stay silent for the dead, since we had quite a few of them. or you know, we could actually discuss shit, because staying quiet is something only mafia wants -.^ Anyway, I saved myself before I went to sleep since it seemed nobody was going to anyway. But I'm not quite sure what happened. Here's my log: palmar fakes GM -- mataza nukes sandro, anti-nuked by minii 7@2.14 -- "intercepted" minii nukes mataza, anti-nuked by GM 7@4.11 -- "gone awry" -- LANDED ANYWAY? mataza counter-nukes minii, anti-nuked by minii 7@3.01 -- "shot down" 15.10 sandro nukes GM -- boom (nothing happened) 16.02 sinani nukes YM -- WENT FOR PALMAR 16.06 jeejee nuke sinani -- boom 16.07 sinani counternuke jeejee -- "failed to detonate" My question is, what the fuck happened to minii>mataza, which caller clearly posted "gone awry" after GM claimed to have shot it down, but it landed anyway????? GM doesn't die, as I expected (come at me tonight mafias), and YM, instead of dying, somehow bounced the rocket to palmar who said "lol bye" and went into the atmosphere. And zombies. Good ol' Caller game.. Primary suspects: GM & chaos13, and minii unless he can explain what happened to the missile aimed at his face and why his missile only pretended to be shot down. 2 super fishy things with one person. Come at me mafias.
I don't think YM redirected the nuke himself. He shot down the first one that Mataza aimed at him and it simply disappeared. He also shot down the one headed for sandroba, which also simply disappeared. This one didn't disappear, it just went after someone else.
This leads me to believe that YM does not have a passive redirect nuke immunity and did not shoot down that nuke himself unless he has different types of antinukes (possible). More likely that someone's looking out for him.
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