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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 05:03 GMT
#2681
GM are you ever going to give your thoughts?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 11 2011 06:03 GMT
#2682
On July 11 2011 11:11 Mig wrote:
Hey Curu you really need to claim. You talked a lot about how if sandroba flipped green you would claim. Basically the only thing you have posted in a long time is how you are against name claiming and how suspicious YM/sandroba are. Well now that sandroba/YM are both green who do you think the last mafia are?


Still reading through, just got to this post. I'm good for my word.

I'm J. Brobert Oppenheimer. Yeah, every one of those little missiles flying in the air is my baby.

Back to reading the rest of this thread.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 11 2011 06:19 GMT
#2683
I'm still not convinced of nameclaim usefulness but if you guys want to go down that path this slipped to me:

I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.

1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit.
2. Boreritish spelled wrong.

More thoughts to come in a sec, this is a buttload of new info to take in.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 11 2011 07:13 GMT
#2684
Ok my suspects:

Misder. Hasn't done anything useful. Comes out of hiding once to nuke someone (who turned out to be scum). Votes on operations without trying to lynch anyone. I think he's third party trying to avoid attention.

kitaman: ANOTHER third party claim? And a fairly useless third party too. Complete suspicion of him ATM based on claim though. Judging from Palmar's role though I'd say useless third parties aren't much of a rarity. I mean you give Conspirator the win condition of having the WRL reached and then you give someone else the power to have nukes cause no radiation for two days? lol. Strikes me as best lynch ATM because no Townie would claim a third party role. Either he's scum or actually a third party so there's almost no chance he's Town. His power is also far too convenient. Two Moonspeaks die and suddenly he claims the ability to hit Moonspeak people?

TAA: Why did you nuke heist? What in the world is your reason? Looks like he just jumped on the everyone is nuking I can too without being suspected bandwagon. You've also been fairly useless and unconvicted of trying to lynch anyone.

Navillus: Again pure nameclaim suspicion. This:

I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.


1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit.
2. Boreritish spelled wrong.

With this:

On July 11 2011 12:31 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 11:43 GMarshal wrote:
On July 11 2011 11:30 Navillus wrote:
##vote deconduo
##vote ULTRA

I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.

so you are boretish not boreritish? Thats an interesting nationality, I'm not sure its one I'm familiar with. I wonder, are the boretish nuke-proof?


I actually didn't notice this but I just copied and pasted my name/nationality from the role PM so perhaps I'm some splinter group fighting for Irish independence and just don't know it yet...


And then this:
On July 11 2011 13:09 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 13:03 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 11 2011 12:58 Navillus wrote:
On July 11 2011 12:57 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 11 2011 12:56 Navillus wrote:
On July 11 2011 12:55 Mig wrote:
[B]On July 11 2011 12:51 Navillus wrote:[/B
Wait do I find out separately if I lost a life? Cause I didn't get a PM or anything.


Normally you should receive a pm if you lose a life.


Ahhh.

I didn't.

I'm confused.


Kinda like how you were confused when you mispelled your faction name in your fake claim?


Exactly.

You should nuke me because I'm in the habit of popping in as mafia when no one is noticing me to make dubious claims that will possibly get me killed.


Sigh. This is what I hear:

"I'm clearly not mafia because I posted in the thread!"

Do you really think town would ignore you for the remainder of the game? Eventually someone was going to notice you were MIA for the last 50 pages. There are only 15 people remaining. You knew you were going to have to claim eventually. Just try to double check your spelling before you fake claim next time.


Sigh. This is what I hear:

"The only piece of evidence I have for you being mafia is that you misspelled a faction name, and it is common knowledge that mafia are worse spellers than townies Q.E.D. you are mafia.


Misspelled claim, says he copy pasted and then says he misspelled his claim later.

I really have to go to bed (grumpy gf) but I promise more thoughts in the morning.


wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 07:15 GMT
#2685
Curu misder is dead and he shot a scum lol.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 11 2011 07:16 GMT
#2686
The above order is also the order in which their stuff jumped out to me btw, so somewhat consider it a list of most to least suspicious.
wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 07:17 GMT
#2687
I do agree with your points about Nav tho. So I take back calling him likely townie.

Right now I think kita/TAA are the 2 that are by far the most suspicious.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 11 2011 07:20 GMT
#2688
On July 11 2011 16:15 Mig wrote:
Curu misder is dead and he shot a scum lol.


My bad. Well scratch that one then.

Caller can you update OP with important posts please?

I'm really in a rush ATM but I'll have all my complete thoughts in the morning.
wat
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 11 2011 07:20 GMT
#2689
On July 11 2011 15:19 Curu wrote:
I'm still not convinced of nameclaim usefulness but if you guys want to go down that path this slipped to me:

I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.

1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit.
2. Boreritish spelled wrong.

More thoughts to come in a sec, this is a buttload of new info to take in.


Ok so 3 things

1. Why on earth would I go to the trouble to pick a name WITH THE WORD BORE IN IT and not spell it as such, sure if I just picked some random name the lack of bore might be suspicious but me finding possibly the one major British person in WWII with the word bore already there and then deciding not to add the e would be stupid, and don't just say "ok you're stupid" that's not an argument, also

2. The misspelling of boreritish is actually the dumbest reason to accuse someone that I have ever seen, my accusers have yet to explain why my being mafia would make it more likely for me to misspell it or make a typo, I'm done responding to this point unless someone brings up something with some semblance of logic behind it, also

3. I think it is pretty likely that at least one scum is accusing me, a few people accused me so it's safe, and it definitely helps them to have people wasting their time arguing for/against me being scum, also I really don't think that there's solid enough evidence against me to actually convince a whole lot of townies to go after me, also

"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 11 2011 07:26 GMT
#2690
On July 11 2011 16:20 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 15:19 Curu wrote:
I'm still not convinced of nameclaim usefulness but if you guys want to go down that path this slipped to me:

I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.

1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit.
2. Boreritish spelled wrong.

More thoughts to come in a sec, this is a buttload of new info to take in.


Ok so 3 things

1. Why on earth would I go to the trouble to pick a name WITH THE WORD BORE IN IT and not spell it as such, sure if I just picked some random name the lack of bore might be suspicious but me finding possibly the one major British person in WWII with the word bore already there and then deciding not to add the e would be stupid, and don't just say "ok you're stupid" that's not an argument, also

2. The misspelling of boreritish is actually the dumbest reason to accuse someone that I have ever seen, my accusers have yet to explain why my being mafia would make it more likely for me to misspell it or make a typo, I'm done responding to this point unless someone brings up something with some semblance of logic behind it, also

3. I think it is pretty likely that at least one scum is accusing me, a few people accused me so it's safe, and it definitely helps them to have people wasting their time arguing for/against me being scum, also I really don't think that there's solid enough evidence against me to actually convince a whole lot of townies to go after me, also



I said it's purely based on nameclaim. I also said many times I don't like pure nameclaim hunting for many reasons. I also said you are least suspicious on my list.

Judging by the fakeclaims of the other scum though they put almost no effort into it (seriously all claiming third parties? If kita flips scum then add +1 to that).

You are far too defensive at the slightest pointing of you for my liking to be Town but again this doesn't seem to mean much (case: sandroba) and I was wrong about that. The Town playstyle that I'm used to is completely different but this can be attributed to everyone essentially being blue (nukes lolz) or TL Mafia just being different.

SERIOUSLY going to bed now. A few hours to sleep then I'll be back to post.

wat
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 11 2011 07:27 GMT
#2691
On July 11 2011 16:20 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 15:19 Curu wrote:
I'm still not convinced of nameclaim usefulness but if you guys want to go down that path this slipped to me:

I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.

1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit.
2. Boreritish spelled wrong.

More thoughts to come in a sec, this is a buttload of new info to take in.


Ok so 3 things

1. Why on earth would I go to the trouble to pick a name WITH THE WORD BORE IN IT and not spell it as such, sure if I just picked some random name the lack of bore might be suspicious but me finding possibly the one major British person in WWII with the word bore already there and then deciding not to add the e would be stupid, and don't just say "ok you're stupid" that's not an argument, also


Right this grew 10 pages and everything and I need to leave soon.

I highly doubt anyone other than me has not got the word bore in my name caller made it pretty clear that I was the only non boring British person and to do it I had to fake role claim every day ( Until he messed up my power and changed my role )
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 11 2011 07:30 GMT
#2692
On July 11 2011 16:13 Curu wrote:
Ok my suspects:

Misder. Hasn't done anything useful. Comes out of hiding once to nuke someone (who turned out to be scum). Votes on operations without trying to lynch anyone. I think he's third party trying to avoid attention.

kitaman: ANOTHER third party claim? And a fairly useless third party too. Complete suspicion of him ATM based on claim though. Judging from Palmar's role though I'd say useless third parties aren't much of a rarity. I mean you give Conspirator the win condition of having the WRL reached and then you give someone else the power to have nukes cause no radiation for two days? lol. Strikes me as best lynch ATM because no Townie would claim a third party role. Either he's scum or actually a third party so there's almost no chance he's Town. His power is also far too convenient. Two Moonspeaks die and suddenly he claims the ability to hit Moonspeak people?

TAA: Why did you nuke heist? What in the world is your reason? Looks like he just jumped on the everyone is nuking I can too without being suspected bandwagon. You've also been fairly useless and unconvicted of trying to lynch anyone.

Navillus: Again pure nameclaim suspicion. This:

Show nested quote +
I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.


1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit.
2. Boreritish spelled wrong.

With this:

Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 12:31 Navillus wrote:
On July 11 2011 11:43 GMarshal wrote:
On July 11 2011 11:30 Navillus wrote:
##vote deconduo
##vote ULTRA

I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.

so you are boretish not boreritish? Thats an interesting nationality, I'm not sure its one I'm familiar with. I wonder, are the boretish nuke-proof?


I actually didn't notice this but I just copied and pasted my name/nationality from the role PM so perhaps I'm some splinter group fighting for Irish independence and just don't know it yet...


And then this:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 13:09 Navillus wrote:
On July 11 2011 13:03 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 11 2011 12:58 Navillus wrote:
On July 11 2011 12:57 kitaman27 wrote:
On July 11 2011 12:56 Navillus wrote:
On July 11 2011 12:55 Mig wrote:
[B]On July 11 2011 12:51 Navillus wrote:[/B
Wait do I find out separately if I lost a life? Cause I didn't get a PM or anything.


Normally you should receive a pm if you lose a life.


Ahhh.

I didn't.

I'm confused.


Kinda like how you were confused when you mispelled your faction name in your fake claim?


Exactly.

You should nuke me because I'm in the habit of popping in as mafia when no one is noticing me to make dubious claims that will possibly get me killed.


Sigh. This is what I hear:

"I'm clearly not mafia because I posted in the thread!"

Do you really think town would ignore you for the remainder of the game? Eventually someone was going to notice you were MIA for the last 50 pages. There are only 15 people remaining. You knew you were going to have to claim eventually. Just try to double check your spelling before you fake claim next time.


Sigh. This is what I hear:

"The only piece of evidence I have for you being mafia is that you misspelled a faction name, and it is common knowledge that mafia are worse spellers than townies Q.E.D. you are mafia.


Misspelled claim, says he copy pasted and then says he misspelled his claim later.

I really have to go to bed (grumpy gf) but I promise more thoughts in the morning.




*sighs* you know as I typed that last one I actually thought to myself that someone might take my use of the word misspell as a clue not just me picking the most convenient word, I just didn't think any of you were really that anal about word choice. Ok fine I will not make a single statement from now on that could be construed as anything less than 110% pro town, but seriously going around jumping on individual words like what basically your entire case against me is won't get you anywhere and will probably lead to some mislynches. Townies, or at least I as a townie am no more likely to choose my words really carefully than I am as scum, in fact I'd probably be much more careful if I were scum.

And I repeat, no one has explained in any way how a misspelling (as taken from a PM) is in ANY WAY more likely to come from scum than town, in fact had that been a typo as scum I wouldn't have used the implausible, "the PM was wrong" I would have said it was a typo and everyone would have gone on with their lives, now I'm serious if you keep trying to use that to accuse me at least try and pretend like it's a logical argument, until then it's just the lowest form of OMGUS.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 11 2011 07:34 GMT
#2693
On July 11 2011 16:27 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 16:20 Navillus wrote:
On July 11 2011 15:19 Curu wrote:
I'm still not convinced of nameclaim usefulness but if you guys want to go down that path this slipped to me:

I am Louis Mountborton of the Boretish Empire, one of the British claims is probably lying.

1. MountBORTon. Highly unlikely that this wouldn't be MountBOREton if it actually was legit.
2. Boreritish spelled wrong.

More thoughts to come in a sec, this is a buttload of new info to take in.


Ok so 3 things

1. Why on earth would I go to the trouble to pick a name WITH THE WORD BORE IN IT and not spell it as such, sure if I just picked some random name the lack of bore might be suspicious but me finding possibly the one major British person in WWII with the word bore already there and then deciding not to add the e would be stupid, and don't just say "ok you're stupid" that's not an argument, also


Right this grew 10 pages and everything and I need to leave soon.

I highly doubt anyone other than me has not got the word bore in my name caller made it pretty clear that I was the only non boring British person and to do it I had to fake role claim every day ( Until he messed up my power and changed my role )


Holy shit, you know what I fucking give up, if you guys are really going to become that obsessed with the spelling in my attempt at a helpful role claim then I don't see what I can do, but Caller and OriginalName if that lack of an e was also a typo so help me god I will hunt you two down. Now it's 3 AM where I am please just kill me before I wake up
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 11 2011 07:37 GMT
#2694
EBWOP: 3:42 AM, because I'm sure that saying 3 AM when it was actually 3:42 was another scumslip... I'm going to bed.
"TL gives excellent advice 99% of the time. The problem is no one listens to it." -Plexa
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
July 11 2011 07:51 GMT
#2695
t(ツ)t
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 11 2011 07:52 GMT
#2696
On July 11 2011 16:13 Curu wrote:
TAA: Why did you nuke heist? What in the world is your reason? Looks like he just jumped on the everyone is nuking I can too without being suspected bandwagon. You've also been fairly useless and unconvicted of trying to lynch anyone.

Did you even read my post? Heist pushed for name claims and as a result we are getting our french guy nuked, purely based on name claims. you know what pushing for name claims is? blue fishing, in its purest and simplest form, and it should stop.
dr Helvetica <3
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 11 2011 08:00 GMT
#2697
Look, you are expecting us to believe you are town based solely through your roleclaim. Of course, we'll be suspicious if it doesn't follow typical characteristics, let alone trusting someone through roleclaim alone. Misspelling is far more likely from scum rather than town because scum will be making up their roles. This seems obvious. You can understand why we are suspicious.

Either we believe you or we don't. Same as kita.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 08:03 GMT
#2698
On July 11 2011 16:52 TheAwesomeAll wrote:

Did you even read my post? Heist pushed for name claims and as a result we are getting our french guy nuked, purely based on name claims. you know what pushing for name claims is? blue fishing, in its purest and simplest form, and it should stop.


Did you read any of heist's other posts before nuking him? Nuking just for supporting name claiming is unbelievably weak reasoning to kill someone.

I support name claiming as well. You going to nuke me for it?

In RTM even though you weren't alive long you provided very good reasoning and scum hunting right away. I was on the mafia team part of the reason we killed you was because you were building good cases and attacking people with convincing arguments constantly. You have done virtually no scum hunting or analysis this game. You have basically been useless to town.

After kita you should be lynched asap.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 08:06 GMT
#2699
TAA if you want to have any hope of surviving either heist needs to flip red or you need to make a strong case for why your nuke against him was warranted. And him supporting name claiming is not even close to a convincing case.
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heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 11 2011 08:09 GMT
#2700
One more thing. TAA, if you are so paranoid about scum nuking Frenchmen, why did you nuke me NOT THE ONE WHO NUKED THE FRENCH GUY?
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