OP specifically states hatter can detonate himself. It's such a stupid claim that would only keep him alive for a few days at most and he voted to lynch GF

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 23:57 GMT

#1591

Well I reread the thread and nothing really stood up. Meta points to the last one being some stubborn veteran, but none of them really make sense as the last scum. I think I'll have to vote GGQ or Eiii today. I don't think, however, we'll be hitting mafia today.

YM should be allowed to post his actions tomorrow no matter what, so if he gets sniped early, the flip should be delayed until his actions are in.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 08:47 GMT

#1640

Haha, amazing. Mig I don't think you had a chance even if you survived until lylo. While you weren't my top suspect, you echoed Wiggles' point about the possibility of 3 DTs even after VE started getting more and more suspicious

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 08:51 GMT

#1641

And whoa Palmar and I were millers

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 09:40 GMT

#1648

Mataza you were on my likely townie list along with GM, YM (after claim) and Palmar <3

My lynch order was, before Jackal's plan, GGQ, Eiii, Jackal, Mig, Hyaach, Hiro, Cthsazsa

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 09:46 GMT

#1650

I think we would have convinced YM to confirm GM and if we had delayed the confirmation as I suggested, it would have been extremely difficult for you to win if you kept sniping the actually suspicious players

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 09:56 GMT

#1653

Palmar and GM were 95+% town. The only way them being mafia made sense if this was indeed some huge gambit from the beginning or if they didn't read their role PMs and communicate with their team.

You pushing GM even this late into the game was a scum tell as Palmar pointed out

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 10:03 GMT

#1658

Well okay you weren't pushing, but you are a good player who was completely avoiding discussing how unlikely it was for GM to be mafia given what occurred on day 1 and 2 and Wiggles flipping GF. Instead you focused on confirmation and you weren't really trying to convince YM to confirm him

e: unfortunately this also applies to a lot of other good players

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 10:11 GMT

#1661

Yes, I should have realized there was another role blocker when YM said he got blocked on day 2.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 10:37 GMT

#1663

Hiro was town MVP for starting the wagon, obviously

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 12:45 GMT

#1672

Mig and Wiggles both slipped by somewhat protecting VE at that point, especially since they didn't even mention that hitting scum would lower mafia KP by 1. You put a lot of thought into the defense and glossed over such an important detail. Indeed, the defense made it sound like you just wanted him to live one more day. Further, if you are highly suspicious of someone, you shouldn't be defending him at least until the person in question has at least addressed the concerns. Mig completely ignored VE's really poor explanation, despite being around, I should have noticed that. I had to dismiss Palmar's reluctance as bad play (otherwise your play was pretty flawless) as it didn't make sense for him to aggressively bus everyone else on his team and then object to lynching the most obvious scum in the game.

e: as for GGQ, I didn't realize there was a 50min gap between his post and the Wiggles lynch deadline, the announcement post was just late, so you weren't really lurking when youngminii claim occurred

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 14:13 GMT

#1678

TAA was that one post a breadcrumb of some sort?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 14:37 GMT

#1681

Yes but then you went on to say you weren't really sure, making it a bit difficult to interpret

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 15:01 GMT

#1684

Did mafia realize this format makes medics much less useful? It's pretty obvious, but besides the medic timing issues you never have to blindly double stack the target as you can just shoot once and if the target doesn't die, you just shoot again. This is also why I thought VE not dying immediately was really suspicious. Fake claiming DT convincingly in this format is quite difficult.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 04 2011 21:22 GMT

#1707

re: QT

I was actually actively fishing for a mafia shot early on, but that got derailed pretty quick. In my first game I didn't mention any blue roles at all as green and now I started doing pretty much the opposite.

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