So Mig, what was GM's master plan in this game? Allow VE to fake claim DT and then get him lynched for town cred? Then when it failed, he panicked and gambled on none of the possible vigis or hatters taking his offer? Then he bussed his GF, knowing full well there was a claimed hatter who was very likely going to bomb him on the day after. Then, instead of immediately shooting YM after the lynch, he decided it would be better to wait and pray YM, without any persuasion, would decided bombing GM wasn't a good idea after all? Scum play has been so bad even disregarding all of the above him being on the scum team makes very little sense.

Having said that, I still think testing his vet claim is okay.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 02 2011 22:26 GMT

#1460

Also I'd like to remind how scummy it was of GGQ to not switch his vote from youngminii to Wiggles after the hatter claim. He was there the whole time, lurking.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 02 2011 22:28 GMT

#1461

Timing of the last mafia kill points to it being someone else though

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 02 2011 22:54 GMT

#1467

Yes, though unfortunately mafia hits have been terrible overall so can't read too much into that

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 02 2011 22:57 GMT

#1469

For Palmar to be the remaining mafia goon (?) this would have had to be an experimental game in which the mafia team agrees to allow him to bus most of his scum team to gain town cred and then play alone for two weeks. I guess the alternative is that no one on the team thought people would pay attention to Palmar on day 1.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 02 2011 23:00 GMT

#1474

Day 2 hits were okay, day 1 hits not so much, even if they thought TAA was detective

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 02 2011 23:08 GMT

#1479

I like how Vain returned after 2 days of lurking (he has been active elsewhere) only to post one word reply about him missing the vote. He was my #3 lynch so hopefully he'll get mod killed.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 08:54 GMT

#1496

If we can't fully trust GM, it seems ideal play is to have youngminii plant his bombs on GM and some lurker, who doesn't get named, and have him not detonate the bombs until much later. The remaining scum will have to waste a shot on youngminii eventually. Of course, if youngminii or GM is somehow lying, this will prolong the game unnecessarily.

Someone should do behavioural analysis of the people remaining and determine who is most likely to be a jerk who doesn't mind wasting everyone's time in an almost unwinnable game

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 09:08 GMT

#1498

Hiro hasn't posted in almost 48 hours and only 3 times in the last 5 days or something, so unless he suddenly makes a grand reappearance, he, too, should be mod killed. If it's him, he would have had to send in the Sinani201 kill and intentionally lurk despite the mod kill risk.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 13:44 GMT

#1504

At least two of those should be mod killed

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 13:55 GMT

#1508

Hiro has posted 3 times in 5 days, I suppose if he returns tonight he might dodge the mod kill

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 15:53 GMT

#1513

Opz supposedly also has a lurker shot, so we should determine the best target for that as well. GGQ seems okay

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 16:07 GMT

#1516

Yes, it's also a bit weird how he sort of threw a tantrum when people piled on him after d1 and seemed to lose interest in the game for a while

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 16:41 GMT

#1519

Anyway, if we don't confirm Gmarshal with a bomb, the remaining scum will not shoot him until LYLO and thus him likely being a veteran doesn't do us any much good. If we do confirm him, scum will have to waste a bullet on him eventually. As I said, we don't have to detonate the bombs today, albeit it's tempting

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 16:41 GMT

#1520

Claiming veteran, especially immediately after day post, was such a terrible move

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 16:46 GMT

#1521

I wonder why they didn't role block you, seems like a better idea than randomly role blocking youngminii. It was quite likely one of the vigs would shoot at you to confirm.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 16:53 GMT

#1524

He said he was roleblocked on day 2 and thus his bombs were on his day 1 targets rather than day 2

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 20:01 GMT

#1534

This game should be put on hold until we get the official lurker list and Vain gets mod killed

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 03 2011 20:15 GMT

#1539

So that means the remaining scum gets second free shot at our blues without them being allowed to use their powers. Further, youngminii likely didn't even send in his normal bomb target because he was waiting for the lurker list