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On June 28 2011 07:47 Fishball wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 07:30 deconduo wrote:On June 28 2011 07:26 Fishball wrote:On June 28 2011 06:41 deconduo wrote:On June 28 2011 06:39 Fishball wrote:On June 28 2011 06:15 deconduo wrote:
Lets liven things up a bit more.
Fishball, if you don't step up your posting I'm vigging you tonight. Unless I can get you lynched first. You can do whatever you like. I post whatever I want, when I want. Your threats only makes yourself look dumb. When I flip Town at the end of game, you can then blurt out "Fishball, you played so bad. You're so useless so I vigi'd you. Sucks that you are green but you dug your own grave." Nevermind, I just said it for you. Anything else? I'm like 75% sure you're green. You are just useless. Think of it as cutting off dead skin. Scum tell right there, again. "I think you're green, but I also think you're useless, so you must die." With a no-flip setup, what an opportunity to take out a player! If we don't have a solid lynch candidate, you just made yourself one. 'Oh no, I'm going to get killed if I don't starting playing properly. Oh wait, lets just try and get the guy killed instead. That way he can't kill me' See people? Fine example of a typical logic twister; Doesn't even talk sense at all. Let's see how many of the remaining 14 players would agree with your claim of killing a "likely 75% townie", or my claim of you being Mafia using a no-flip setup to disguise your kill. I'm done with you for the cycle, feel free to bark more nonsense.
All you have to do is to stop fucking about, but its obvious you are unwilling to do that. Have fun with the bullet in your head tonight.
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On June 28 2011 08:06 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 06:41 deconduo wrote:On June 28 2011 06:39 Fishball wrote:On June 28 2011 06:15 deconduo wrote:
Lets liven things up a bit more.
Fishball, if you don't step up your posting I'm vigging you tonight. Unless I can get you lynched first. You can do whatever you like. I post whatever I want, when I want. Your threats only makes yourself look dumb. When I flip Town at the end of game, you can then blurt out "Fishball, you played so bad. You're so useless so I vigi'd you. Sucks that you are green but you dug your own grave." Nevermind, I just said it for you. Anything else? I'm like 75% sure you're green. You are just useless. Think of it as cutting off dead skin. About Fishball, he doesn't like to post what he considers useless, and that includes most of pre-game talk. And deconduo, what do you think, should we focus day 1 on policy lynches or scumhunting?
Scumhunting Day 1 is difficult, but it is possible. So far however only BC seems to have made an effort at it. I'm just pissed at Fishball for trolling so I haven't been paying proper attention to the game. My bad.
I'll deal with Fishball tonight. I think Caller is still a good option so that we might actually have some decent discussion tomorrow.
As for people I think might be mafia; I don't know why BC is defending Fishball, so I find that suspicious. If he comes back to the thread and tries to get me lynched I'd be pretty certain the two of them are mafia. Could flip either way for me atm though.
ILJ has disappeared. FOS on him for that.
Jackal and I aren't having a full on fight, so he's probably mafia.
##Unvote Fishball
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On June 28 2011 08:35 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 08:21 deconduo wrote:
I'll deal with Fishball tonight. I think Caller is still a good option so that we might actually have some decent discussion tomorrow.
Soft blue claim?
Not exactly soft.
On June 28 2011 06:15 deconduo wrote:
Lets liven things up a bit more.
Fishball, if you don't step up your posting I'm vigging you tonight. Unless I can get you lynched first.
On June 28 2011 07:50 deconduo wrote:
Have fun with the bullet in your head tonight.
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On June 28 2011 08:46 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 08:21 deconduo wrote:On June 28 2011 08:06 LSB wrote:On June 28 2011 06:41 deconduo wrote:On June 28 2011 06:39 Fishball wrote:On June 28 2011 06:15 deconduo wrote:
Lets liven things up a bit more.
Fishball, if you don't step up your posting I'm vigging you tonight. Unless I can get you lynched first. You can do whatever you like. I post whatever I want, when I want. Your threats only makes yourself look dumb. When I flip Town at the end of game, you can then blurt out "Fishball, you played so bad. You're so useless so I vigi'd you. Sucks that you are green but you dug your own grave." Nevermind, I just said it for you. Anything else? I'm like 75% sure you're green. You are just useless. Think of it as cutting off dead skin. About Fishball, he doesn't like to post what he considers useless, and that includes most of pre-game talk. And deconduo, what do you think, should we focus day 1 on policy lynches or scumhunting? Scumhunting Day 1 is difficult, but it is possible. So far however only BC seems to have made an effort at it. I'm just pissed at Fishball for trolling so I haven't been paying proper attention to the game. My bad. I'll deal with Fishball tonight. I think Caller is still a good option so that we might actually have some decent discussion tomorrow. As for people I think might be mafia; I don't know why BC is defending Fishball, so I find that suspicious. If he comes back to the thread and tries to get me lynched I'd be pretty certain the two of them are mafia. Could flip either way for me atm though. ILJ has disappeared. FOS on him for that. Jackal and I aren't having a full on fight, so he's probably mafia. ##Unvote Fishball Lol. I was waiting for you to finish your pissing contest with fishball before I started calling you an idiot for wanting to kill a in your opinion a 75% green player. Wtf is it with people calling active "But I think he's town" players useless? Seriously dude. Quit swinging your dick around. It's not that impressive.
Well I can use my shot on someone who's shitting up the thread, and there is still a chance is mafia. Or I can wait for mafia to kill me.
Fun fact, 75% green is the same odds of him being mafia as me shooting a random person (4/16 - If no mafia are dead)
Also I missed you yelling at me <3
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On June 28 2011 19:24 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 19:11 Radfield wrote:On June 28 2011 18:16 Palmar wrote:
I have no problems with simply killing him. I do. Lynching Decon is a bad move. He's active, opinionated, and pushing his views. Players like that are bad Day 1 lynches. And saying things like: "He's 75% green but lets kill him" is not something that mafia say(unless they are really bad or really ballsy). Well, then you're encouraging us to trust him, and that's fine too. Also, you're completely wrong on the "he's probably green but lets kill" as something mafia wouldn't say, that's exactly what mafia would say. One of the little reasons I don't like deconduo is that this is the second time in the thread that he's trying to make sure that he's not certain on his suspicions. Somewhere in the thread he said about fishball "bored townie or mafia". Which again, is exactly what I'd say as mafia. Drive home a kill on a townie, and then hide behind the excuse "well I said he was probably green" or "he was bad for town anyway". You can see why mafia would like this yeah? Kill greens, don't take the blame? On a side note, I'm glad you're committing. Now tell us why he's scum.
Its no flip brah.
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I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:
-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.
-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.
If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.
If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight.
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If I was to shoot someone because I think they are scum, I'd probably shoot BC. However he has been contributing, playing well, and is useful. I just think he's scummy. However if he is town thats a much bigger loss than Fishball.
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On June 28 2011 21:43 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 21:37 deconduo wrote:
I have two trains of thought going on at the moment:
-Fishball is mafia. Mafia are scared that I'm going to kill him so they are trying to get me lynched. I would put Fishball, BC, Kurumi as scum. Other possible suspects are Palmar, Jackal, Chezinu. Radfield, LSB are probably town.
-Fishball is town. Mafia are just lurking away happy at the fact that nothing is going on. Chaoser, ILJ, sandroba would be my biggest suspects. Radfield, BC, Caller (*sigh*), probably town.
If you put a gun to my head, given how the game has played out so far, my gut says option number 2 right now.
If you want me to say something like Fishball is 100% town or 100% mafia, don't be dumb. Its day 1, theres not exactly a lot to go on. I don't know anything for certain. I do know that Fishball has been pretty unhelpful so far. When he was asked nicely to step up his game he refused. When he was threatened to step up his game he refused. As such, unless a better target presents itself, I'm shooting him tonight. You were die hard on Fishball,now betting him as town.. Yeah.
Please find one post of mine where I said Fishball is mafia. Useless is not the same as scummy, though ultimately both are anti-town.
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The shady Iraqis who sold me my shotgun only gave me one bullet.
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Mafia might leave me alive after shoot cos I can't shoot anymore. Thats my reasoning.
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On June 28 2011 23:02 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 14:51 Fishball wrote:On June 28 2011 11:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Just so there are no misconceptions Fishball, my post regarding what I perceive as lunacy from decon is in no way shape or form a defense of you. For all I know right now you're as scummy as they get. And back to Jackal while I'm at it. Like I said, I never named names. Those who defended me have made it obvious. Regardless, you also think I'm scummy - "as scummy as they get" that is. Alright, cool. Do you have a case about it? No? Another blanket statement? Is this the so called contribution and activity everyone was yearning for? I call this crap. Again just to clarify. I did not call you scummy. I professed my ignorance of your alignment. Decon - You a VI? Or just missing the village part? You're making about as much sense as tits on a fish.
I tried to encourage someone to post properly, which they refused to do. So I threaten to shoot them, but they still don't cooperate. Yet people still think this person is pro-town? And I'm not making any sense?
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On June 28 2011 23:42 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 23:07 deconduo wrote:I tried to encourage someone to post properly, which they refused to do. So I threaten to shoot them, but they still don't cooperate. Yet people still think this person is pro-town? And I'm not making any sense? Role claims in a no flip game on day 1 make no sense. Unless you're trying to get shot. That's also worrisome. If you're a vet there would be easier ways to go about it. If you're a VI type role we may have problems. Sorry but I find your vig claim to be unbelievable atm. As far as Fishballs usefulness or lack thereof it's not any different than yours right now. What have you accomplished other than creating an air of animosity and a great big steaming pile of WTF?
Fishball has pretty much openly declared that he doesn't give a shit:
Second, if you're too dumb to figure out a better topic, that's your problem. Like I said, I asked a question; I'm not here to give answers.
I have been trying at least. Anyway, forget about Fishball I've already said I'm dealing with him tonight. Today's lynch is getting closer and the only candidate that seems to be up for lynching is chaoser.
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Hmm, RoL has one post in this game and 16 in RTM over the same time period. Hardcore lurking going on there.
##Vote RebithOfLegend
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On June 29 2011 00:27 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 00:20 LSB wrote:
Intresting analysis. But why does "trolling" make someone mafia? If trolling makes someone mafia, shouldn't Caller also be in that list?
Call me naive, but I assume everyone is here to try to win. I don't think anyone is going to argue that mindless trolling, followed by the defense of "but that guy is trolling more", is in any way helpful for the town. I know Kurumi is capable of playing against his win condition (see PTP) but in a game full of experienced vets, I'd expect him to at least try to win, instead of looking at this as his own little playground. So assuming he's playing to win, that leaves only the possibility of him being mafia. So yes, trolling = mafia.
So Caller and Fishball are mafia as well then?
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On June 29 2011 00:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 23:55 deconduo wrote:
Hmm, RoL has one post in this game and 16 in RTM over the same time period. Hardcore lurking going on there.
##Vote RebithOfLegend Sorry, I am going to catch up now. RTM required quote a bit of focus especially in the early hours of the game. I think I got something like 25 PM's within the first few hours, not to mention thread questions and actions.
Oh you're hosting it. My bad.
##Unvote RebirthOfLegend
##Vote Chaoser
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On June 29 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 00:28 deconduo wrote:On June 29 2011 00:27 Palmar wrote:On June 29 2011 00:20 LSB wrote:
Intresting analysis. But why does "trolling" make someone mafia? If trolling makes someone mafia, shouldn't Caller also be in that list?
Call me naive, but I assume everyone is here to try to win. I don't think anyone is going to argue that mindless trolling, followed by the defense of "but that guy is trolling more", is in any way helpful for the town. I know Kurumi is capable of playing against his win condition (see PTP) but in a game full of experienced vets, I'd expect him to at least try to win, instead of looking at this as his own little playground. So assuming he's playing to win, that leaves only the possibility of him being mafia. So yes, trolling = mafia. So Caller and Fishball are mafia as well then? Caller just might be. Fishball has contributed more than you.
People keep saying that, yet are unable to point to a single contribution by him.
Mafia team:
Fishball
BC
Kurumi
Palmar
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On June 29 2011 04:15 Palmar wrote:
I don't like either of the lynch targets at the moment.
Chaoser/VisEyes is being voted for not contributing, but well... he got replaced out of the game because he didn't have time, and VisEyes just came in.
deconduo's actions make no sense at all, not as mafia and not as town. It's astonishing he did what he did, but my best bet at the moment is to put it down to terrible town play. We can always lynch him tomorrow if the mafia doesn't end him.
So, in my opinion we need to think up a new lynch.
I actually think Kurumi would be a good choice, but one thing is bothering me. He's been dropping italicized numbers into his posts which doesn't quite feel like a mafia ability. However he's scummy as hell so I'm willing to lynch him.
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On June 29 2011 07:21 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I then use what I believe to be my most accurate reads to watch interactions between players like with LSB on Fishball/Deconduo, which if I assume I am right is a really scummy perspective to use.
All I'm saying is let us leave them alone and not bother to lynch either of them. I'm not getting that much warm fuzzies towards them and I don't see how your "I can't read Fishball" somehow means he is town. Show nested quote +Fishball- Generally has that I don't give a FUCK attitude, but his contributions are noteworthy. He's a notoriously difficult player to read though. I'd say likely town currently. Btw I ran through Fishball's posts and I haven't really found any "Noteworthy Contributions", unless attacking Decon is noteworthy And deconduo I don't like how he is drawing too much attention to himself as vig. From what I remember, viges shoot first and talk later here, not the other way around.
And mafia do want to draw attention to themselves? Yeah.
How about looking at all the people defending Fishball saying he has contributed a lot. Theres at least 4 people who have said so yet every time I asked them to point out a SINGLE post they have failed to do so. Palmar, ROL, BC, Kurumi have all claimed as such but refuse to back it up.
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