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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 09 2011 02:18 GMT
#421
ah, the night post makes me feel guilty as hell. sorry ON. if i didn't vote for him though, it would have been me who'd get lynched, so i really had no other choice =/
:)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 09 2011 02:19 GMT
#422
I don't know what this means other than I am going to bed instantly.

Thanks for the baller nightpost though. And please, don't you people give up like in SNMMII. We have to find a scum next time but we can do it.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 09 2011 02:20 GMT
#423
goddammit.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
June 09 2011 02:26 GMT
#424
GAH. I had to make dinner, then go help Aidnai pushstart his car and just got back.

Son of a gun. I'm sorry OriginalName, I didn't act fast enough. Really, though you do need to work on your game.

Ok, so night actions:

Medic: JeeJee. I think that he should have protection so much more than anyone else that I'm not even going to put anyone else on this list. Mafia wouldn't have defended OriginalName like that. JeeJee actually tried to keep him alive, Mafia would have tried to be on the right side, but let it happen.

DT: Check Unichan, YoungMinii, (If you think that I'm suspicious enough to deserve a check then me, but only do so if you think I'm scum)

Vig: I don't have a strong enough read on anyone to suggest a vig shot, but one may emerge through analysis of the voting/actions surrounding the lynch.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
June 09 2011 02:37 GMT
#425
People who kept their votes on ON, obviously you are not insta scum, but I want to know why you kept your votes on him. I mean in light of the 0 resistance to his lynch, and the lack of any sort of active discussion this day. How do you explain this if ON is scum?
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 03:08:32
June 09 2011 03:07 GMT
#426
The lonely spirit gazed at what used to be his home. He floated by each remaining villager, in no order or method he merely sighed deeply as he left their mortal dwellings. He had nowhere and nothing. Returning to where he was prior he closed his eyes.

Only a rustle of wind was noticed by the others
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 09 2011 03:12 GMT
#427
On June 09 2011 11:26 Kavdragon wrote:
GAH. I had to make dinner, then go help Aidnai pushstart his car and just got back.

Son of a gun. I'm sorry OriginalName, I didn't act fast enough. Really, though you do need to work on your game.

Ok, so night actions:

Medic: JeeJee. I think that he should have protection so much more than anyone else that I'm not even going to put anyone else on this list. Mafia wouldn't have defended OriginalName like that. JeeJee actually tried to keep him alive, Mafia would have tried to be on the right side, but let it happen.

DT: Check Unichan, YoungMinii, (If you think that I'm suspicious enough to deserve a check then me, but only do so if you think I'm scum)

Vig: I don't have a strong enough read on anyone to suggest a vig shot, but one may emerge through analysis of the voting/actions surrounding the lynch.

Absolutely not.

DT, check Kavdragon. You start your 100% scum argument against ON and then you bitch out at the end even though you and I both know he was the best candidate. I have very little doubt that you are scum because you are the only person in this game that could pull off what you did AND get away with it.

I urge you DT, check Kavdragon. If he really is scum then we WILL lose which is exactly why we need confirmation of Kav's alignment. Not many people in town will listen to me or unichan, so whether or not we are scum will not affect town as much as it will if Kav is scum.

Right now it is 6v3. Tomorrow it will be 5v3 unless Doc gets it right. If we mislynch again, that's game. I beg you to check Kav or he will make tomorrow a very bad day.
lalala
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 09 2011 09:15 GMT
#428
So, here's a thought.

Assuming the mafia hits tonight, we're in LYLO tomorrow with 5v3 people left in the game. That means that if we don't hit a mafia in the lynch, then we're out. (barring doctor saves etc).

Thing is, being 4v3 during daytime is not actually worse than being 5v3, because both are lylo situations. We have to lynch correctly tomorrow no matter what.

If we have a vigilante in the game, I would like to ask you to take a shot tonight. I'm not going to try to steer your shot, all the information is out there in the thread.

But from a pure statistical point of view, we should shoot tonight, cause we're in LYLO anyway tomorrow.
Computer says mafia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4434 Posts
June 09 2011 09:34 GMT
#429
On June 09 2011 12:07 OriginalName wrote:
The lonely spirit gazed at what used to be his home. He floated by each remaining villager, in no order or method he merely sighed deeply as he left their mortal dwellings. He had nowhere and nothing. Returning to where he was prior he closed his eyes.

Only a rustle of wind was noticed by the others

Go, be at peace, brave villager. Your spirit lives on and you will be remembered.
Sucker for nostalgia
stefftastiq
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway205 Posts
June 09 2011 13:00 GMT
#430
been busy today - and have to go to work now, checkin in after work.
victory not vengeance
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 09 2011 14:07 GMT
#431
Okay Palmar's plan is actually not terrible this time.

If there is a vigilante he should seriously consider shooting somebody, a hit will be awesome and a miss will not be too terrible. If there is a cop he should also strongly consider claiming, depending on what information he's got so far.

Also, were noone roleblocked on day1? In SNMMII no roleblocker meant only one blue role for town. I seriously doubt that there is a vig or a cop (and almost certain that we don't have both). So do not rely on them people, we may just have to do the scumhunting ourselves. I may be away for the first part of day1 but I'm almost certainly here for a good part of the rest of it.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 09 2011 14:56 GMT
#432
On June 09 2011 23:07 prplhz wrote:
Okay Palmar's plan is actually not terrible this time.

If there is a vigilante he should seriously consider shooting somebody, a hit will be awesome and a miss will not be too terrible. If there is a cop he should also strongly consider claiming, depending on what information he's got so far.

Also, were noone roleblocked on day1? In SNMMII no roleblocker meant only one blue role for town. I seriously doubt that there is a vig or a cop (and almost certain that we don't have both). So do not rely on them people, we may just have to do the scumhunting ourselves. I may be away for the first part of day1 but I'm almost certainly here for a good part of the rest of it.


Just a little strategy pointer. If there is no roleblocker we probably don't have BOTH cop and doc, but we might very well have either, because all the roleblocker does is stop the doc from protecting the cop.

And yes, of course my plan isn't bad this time. Remember, this is my third game of mafia, and I decided to see what'd happen if I suggested a bad plan, see if it'd somehow help us out the mafia.

Another thing to keep in mind. We're in LYLO tomorrow. Even if we have a cop and he investigates an innocent again, he _should_ out himself if, (and only if) we're pushing for a lynch on another townie.

Better out yourself than losing the game. If however the cop has found 2 innocents, and neither of them is up for the lynch, then by all means hold your silence cop.

Anyway, we'll see what day brings.

Vigilante, you should shoot tonight.
Computer says mafia
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
June 09 2011 15:18 GMT
#433
On June 09 2011 12:12 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 11:26 Kavdragon wrote:
GAH. I had to make dinner, then go help Aidnai pushstart his car and just got back.

Son of a gun. I'm sorry OriginalName, I didn't act fast enough. Really, though you do need to work on your game.

Ok, so night actions:

Medic: JeeJee. I think that he should have protection so much more than anyone else that I'm not even going to put anyone else on this list. Mafia wouldn't have defended OriginalName like that. JeeJee actually tried to keep him alive, Mafia would have tried to be on the right side, but let it happen.

DT: Check Unichan, YoungMinii, (If you think that I'm suspicious enough to deserve a check then me, but only do so if you think I'm scum)

Vig: I don't have a strong enough read on anyone to suggest a vig shot, but one may emerge through analysis of the voting/actions surrounding the lynch.

Absolutely not.

DT, check Kavdragon. You start your 100% scum argument against ON and then you bitch out at the end even though you and I both know he was the best candidate. I have very little doubt that you are scum because you are the only person in this game that could pull off what you did AND get away with it.

I urge you DT, check Kavdragon. If he really is scum then we WILL lose which is exactly why we need confirmation of Kav's alignment. Not many people in town will listen to me or unichan, so whether or not we are scum will not affect town as much as it will if Kav is scum.

Right now it is 6v3. Tomorrow it will be 5v3 unless Doc gets it right. If we mislynch again, that's game. I beg you to check Kav or he will make tomorrow a very bad day.


Not at the end he wasn't. You saw the reaction that putting him up for lynch gave the town. If you only looked at his play then yes, he was the best candidate far and away, but you CANNOT ignore what everyone else is doing. When you look for a response to pressure you are NOT only looking at the person who is pressured. You have to look at what the rest of the players feel about the lynch, and that threw up a huge red flag. You are an experienced player and you most certainly should have seen that.

As far as my DT check, this is my argument against it: We need to find scum. Not confirm townies. I'm fairly confident that I will not be up for lynch tomorrow, (and if I am, I'm confident that I can defend myself without a cop claiming to prove my innocence). This means that the check will not really help us when we need it most.

I'm not afraid of being checked, I just know that it will won't help us tomorrow.

@Youngminii: I'm flattered, but no. There's no way I could pull this off as scum.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
June 09 2011 15:21 GMT
#434
My personal theory is that YM is mafia trying to get the DT to check me because they plan to kill me tonight. I'll elaborate on that more before the day comes around though.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 09 2011 17:16 GMT
#435
Facepalm. I'm this close to just giving up on this stupid game.

On June 09 2011 11:26 Kavdragon wrote:
GAH. I had to make dinner, then go help Aidnai pushstart his car and just got back.

Son of a gun. I'm sorry OriginalName, I didn't act fast enough. Really, though you do need to work on your game.

Ok, so night actions:

Medic: JeeJee. I think that he should have protection so much more than anyone else that I'm not even going to put anyone else on this list. Mafia wouldn't have defended OriginalName like that. JeeJee actually tried to keep him alive, Mafia would have tried to be on the right side, but let it happen.

DT: Check Unichan, YoungMinii, (If you think that I'm suspicious enough to deserve a check then me, but only do so if you think I'm scum)

Vig: I don't have a strong enough read on anyone to suggest a vig shot, but one may emerge through analysis of the voting/actions surrounding the lynch.


I appreciate the concern, but this post makes you look more scummy if that's even possible. If I'm the only medic choice, mafia is just not going to hit me. A medic that doesn't protect anything is a townie. Use your head medic.

DT "check me but only if you thin I'm scum" no shit? Why else would the DT check you? Chalk up another one to pretend to be contributing while doing fuck-all

Vig.. despite what others said, you don't *have* to hit tonight. If you do, and miss, we're still in lylo, that's great. That's the first thing I thought of as well. Of course another way is to wait, and hit night3.

If vigi doesnt hit mafia and we mislynch, we lose night 3. Doesn't matter when vigi strikes, or if he strikes at all. I was going to go over every case, but just use your head. The thing is, if he's hitting night 3 instead of night 2, there's less townie targets, higher chance of mafia, more history. Common sense.
Of course, if you are sure (and I would be), by all means, fire away.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
June 09 2011 17:45 GMT
#436
On June 10 2011 02:16 JeeJee wrote:
Facepalm. I'm this close to just giving up on this stupid game.

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 11:26 Kavdragon wrote:
GAH. I had to make dinner, then go help Aidnai pushstart his car and just got back.

Son of a gun. I'm sorry OriginalName, I didn't act fast enough. Really, though you do need to work on your game.

Ok, so night actions:

Medic: JeeJee. I think that he should have protection so much more than anyone else that I'm not even going to put anyone else on this list. Mafia wouldn't have defended OriginalName like that. JeeJee actually tried to keep him alive, Mafia would have tried to be on the right side, but let it happen.

DT: Check Unichan, YoungMinii, (If you think that I'm suspicious enough to deserve a check then me, but only do so if you think I'm scum)

Vig: I don't have a strong enough read on anyone to suggest a vig shot, but one may emerge through analysis of the voting/actions surrounding the lynch.


I appreciate the concern, but this post makes you look more scummy if that's even possible. If I'm the only medic choice, mafia is just not going to hit me. A medic that doesn't protect anything is a townie. Use your head medic.

DT "check me but only if you thin I'm scum" no shit? Why else would the DT check you? Chalk up another one to pretend to be contributing while doing fuck-all


Making sure you don't get hit is exactly why I'm calling for a medic on you. I've played medic before, and I know what I'm doing. You play mind games with the mafia. Oh, and the fact that you defended ON is only part of the reason that I want you medic'd.

The reason I said not to check me unless you think I'm scum is because YM was advocating checking me only to make sure that I'm town. Not because he thought that I was scum. I was making it clear that you look for scum as DT, not town.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
June 09 2011 19:11 GMT
#437
Why is everyone so quiet? More talking is good.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 09 2011 19:23 GMT
#438
Less activity during night time?

we'll have shit to discuss in the morning
Computer says mafia
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
June 09 2011 19:40 GMT
#439
less activity during the night is a myth invented by mafia in every game. More content to analyse is better for town. What's bad about it?

In other news, I have a vig target! Dementrio has 5 posts in this game and is lurking hardcore. He comes in posts once or twice, then leaves and doesn't come back till the next vote.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 09 2011 19:58 GMT
#440
On June 10 2011 04:40 Kavdragon wrote:
less activity during the night is a myth invented by mafia in every game. More content to analyse is better for town. What's bad about it?

In other news, I have a vig target! Dementrio has 5 posts in this game and is lurking hardcore. He comes in posts once or twice, then leaves and doesn't come back till the next vote.


I didn't mean we should talk less during the night. I meant there simply is less to talk about.

In my case, I voted for youngminii. I was wrong on originalname, that doesn't make me wrong on youngminii, which is a case I will probably follow through with tomorrow.
Computer says mafia
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