TL Mafia XL

On June 06 2011 04:20 Munk-E wrote:
Looking at the people who are being voted for, here's my analysis.

-freeloader625
I think we're being a bit too hasty having him have with most votes. Sure his defenses were flimsy and irrelevant, but the reason we voted him in the first place was because he wasn't sure of the rules. This is a beginner's game, so I don't think this alone should be enough for a lynch.

The fact that he has, however, been flimsy with his defense leads me to believe that we may have gotten lucky accusing him. Another thing is that he continually cites his experience with SC2 mafia. I don't know if any of you played this, but it's not very difficult. You have 1 minute days and it is random lynching most of the time. Now it is possible to pin his poor defense on the easier mafia game, but I don't think that's really relevant at all. The poor defense is either caused by he is mafia, and a bad liar, or he's town, and a bad player.

I don't think however, that asking about the rules makes him mafia, and besides, if he was mafia, he would know the answer to the question. If we pretend he's really good at this game though, he might ask the question just to attempt to show inexperience and therefore be less likely to be lynched. I do think though, that if he were experienced, he would be able to foresee the fallout of his question. Therefore I think that he is just an inexperienced player looking for answers of how the game is played. That also is probably the reason his defense was so bad.

-lafali
This one is interesting because he only has 2 posts. Both not very informative. One of them patting aprudds on the back, the latter accusing him because of something that happened far before the first earlier post. he voted freeloader at first, RIGHT before his second post. But an hour after he accused aprudds, he unvoted for seemingly no reason, and has yet to vote.

lafali is acting awfully suspicious, but I don't think that 2 short posts is quite enough information to judge him on. However, keep an eye out on him, he does seem rather suscpicious.

-aprudds
He seems like an honest scum-hunting citizen, and his only vote so far is by pyo for the reason "aprudds - for a really arbitrary out of nowhere accusation". His accusation was reasoned by him, and he even stated it was partially just to get the discussion started. Honestly, he has been the most scum-hunting of us, so I think he's very town.

-TheAwesomeAll
Considering this vote seems like a joke, I don't have much to say. First of all, it wasn't nearly his first post, as monsterDraker said, and furthermore, it wasn't even anything that bad, it was just facts. It does lead me to be suspicious of monster though. He voted because the post "annoyed" him. He seems WAY to hasty to vote.

On June 07 2011 12:40 Munk-E wrote:
Is anyone else suspicious of lafali? I mean he has said nothing to help anyone with his posts!

He has 3 real posts. the first one is this.


This was about the whole freeloader incident at the beginning. This post is no help at all. He starts by complementing aprudds for his "good catch", and then immediately says why it may not matter. This post did nothing to help at all.

His next post is


He says "It's a 40 player game" again. and then clarifys what he means by saying "I'm sure we can afford a few mislynches." Now this is obviously scummy behavior. Saying this could only imply that mislynches aren't so bad. What's worse is even after he gave his incredibly scummy opinion, he said "Regardless, we should continue scumhunting" this is the complete opposite of what he was implying and feels like he kind of just tacked it on there to not seem as scummy. even after that, he says "We do have 48 hours" this again somewhat reinforces my analysis about his quote earlier about mislynches not being so bad. It's saying that we shouldn't worry now. Also in this post, he mentions just hopping on the bandwagon. At the time of this post, he DID just hop on the bandwagon. 10 minuites earlier, he was the 3rd person to vote. an hour after he voted, he unvoted seemingly unprompted with no explanation. He has yet to re-vote. This behavior seems pretty scummy. I'm guessing that the mafia PMed him and told him not to unvote freeloader, as he was drawing suspicion to himself. This post is filled with contradictions and scummy behavior.

His 3rd and final post is this:


Here, he is being ULTRA defensive. along with being, again, completely useless. He first states that his previous experience with a different form of the game leads him to believe that mislynches are okay. He is saying "mislynches are okay, and here's why I think so" again. Next he mentions that he finds treadmill fishy. He gives no evidence for this at all, and the only reason he even mentioned him is because kurumi said he was more scummy than treadmill. his purpose in mentioning treadmill was to get kurumi to not vote him. He next says that voting early seems like a bad idea, despite the fact he was the 3rd to vote. And finally, he seems to be expecting DT to reveal himself tomorrow.

Note that he hasn't posted since this when people, including myself, started attacking him. I guess they forgot about him, but he definitely seems the most scummy to me.

##VOTE lafali

On June 10 2011 12:24 Munk-E wrote:
Xkcd is the obvious choice here. He RARELY gives analysis (besides his big anlysis post, but that is just a means of accusing jackal, more on this later) and most of his posts are blind accusations or heavily defending himself



This is xkcd's post about his vote for rookie. Note that he did vote for him within 2 minuites of senj and 5 minuites of kurumi. This is obviously not coincedence as the last accusation of him was a half hour earlier by jackal. Also very importantly note that This was posted after all 3 of them voted! Now this has to require some communication. I'm not actually sure about kurumi, because he voted first quoting jackal's argument. But the other 2 hopping on almost immediately shows that they were trying to start a bandwagon. My speculation is that jackal may be mafia, and was waiting until someone (kurumi) voted for rookie at which point his mafia buddies would strike. Both are VERY likely mafia, but I think xkcd is much more likely as he voted last.

Also, this style is very different from all previous posting of his. This is his first attempt at analysis, which makes me wonder if someone else wrote it for him.

This is xkcd's 1st real post
1.


Note that he NEVER told us who he was talking about, and the fact that he mentioned people from “both sides” makes me think he KNOWS both sides. Whoever the “main talkers” are for all we know, they could all be mafia or all be town! Now look at the rest of his post “ The only question is now how to distinguish between the two sides and how to act upon it”. This is obviously just some generic “i'm not mafia” phrase tacked on to the end. He's mafia, and he's not good at it.

Another interesting one



He never did analysis of drazerk. His only real anylsis is again of rookie which furthers my suspicion that someone may have wrote it for him.


replying with an xkcd comic... cute, however this just shows that he is only trying to avoid having to defend himself.



A lot of other posts suggest that rookie and jackal may be in cahoots. This one suggests that jackal may be town and they took the opportunity to vote for rookie.

The reason I bring this up is that this means that they wanted him to die, which they had no reason for. I am just bringing this up because the only possible reason to start a bandwagon at that point was to save freeloader. This makes me suspicious of freeloader.


another xkcd comic in place of content... I would say this is annoying, but it serves the purpose of showing what hes doing. He claimed to try to start a discussion, but now that he's given a chance to start it, he instead says “UGH I tried to tell you about this, but not now, you're too late!” The only reason that he would decide not to is that he changed his mind, or someone told him not to. This is another connection between him and jackal, and I think that this means that they are both mafia, or trying to use jackal as a scapegoat.

His next big post is his analysis of everyone. I'll ignore most of it, but I think the most interesting part is his accusation of jackal. First thing to note is that his is the only one not spoilered. This is obviously to get attention on his accusation of him. Next he says jackal is GF, this would make us want to lynch him more! 3rd is, when he wrote this, he was getting a LOT of votes. All of these lead to either jackal being mafia, and he voted him because if he does get lynched, people would leave jackal alone. Or 2 Jackal is his scapegoat, and he's trying to get jackal lynched instead of him.



This one is just dumb of him. He is claiming all people that don't agree with him are mafia. He is only mentioning jackal again. There is definitely something between him and jackal at this point, but this post is entirely him trying to turn town against each other.



this one is just him trying to divert attention. He sees he has a shot at surviving today, so he jumps all over that. Every single post from that point is him attacking Grok to survive.

I think it's obvious that amazingxkcd is scum.